Kuban Autumn Nth Africa Desert Beta upload - Updated version to 8. 10-01-2023

[Blitzen]

On 11/8/2020 at 12:21 PM, Beebop said:

Voice packs may be forthcoming.  Off_Winters is being very diligent with making this repaint very complete.

 

And yes, if you own the Hurricane you can fly it, and any other plane you own, on it.  But the campaign would need the Hurricane added to it.  With campaigns you can only fly the planes provided by the mission maker unless you are willing to open the campaign in the Mission Editor and make changes.  Not recommended for the uninitiated, possibly not even for the well versed. 

 

Tank Crew should also work on this too as long as you don't mind having a Sherman stand in for an Abrams, LOL!   Seriously you could have Afrika Korps tank missions on the map.

 

Again it's an "eye candy" repaint and does not affect gameplay in any way other than visually.

Alas , It doesn't appear that the Hurricane is available for Autumn Campaigns   ....yet. Maybe soon someone will figure a way to leverage it in?

[Off_Winters]

10 hours ago, Falcon41 said:

Rob,

     I'm in the process of building several Tuskegee Airman missions and noticed that the eu control tower with the mod activated looks like a skeleton, no outer walls of any color and outlines of windows.  Is there some correction that needs to be done?  Or should I use another building/structure for the control tower?  I've tried adding the control tower feature several times but it stills looks as if its only partially filled in.  Otherwise the MOD is great, by the way I've tried the "Greek Fire" scripted campaign with your MOD and it adds a new whole dimension to the campaign.

     Looking forward to more add-ons.

Falcon

Hi Falcon,

I started to repaint the EU tower and I may have overdone the alpha channel on it (controls opacity, if to dark it becomes invisible in game). I haven't actually looked at the tower in game since I started the repaint. I'll take a look tonight and get a fix up soon. 

EDIT: yep just checked and the alpha is FUBAR... I'll finish the repaint this weekend and put up another update with the few other bits and pieces added in as well.

regards Rob.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Off_Winters

[Mysticpuma]

Loving it so-far, the Hurricane in its element

 

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.39.05.70 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.40.18.32 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

Tunisia by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.41.43.60 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.42.49.08 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.44.33.16 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.45.22.88 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.47.28.92 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.50.26.84 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

Toasty warm by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

IL-2  Sturmovik  Battle of Stalingrad Screenshot 2020.11.10 - 12.55.01.27 by mysticpuma2011, on Flickr

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Mysticpuma
Updated

[Off_Winters]

13 hours ago, Lemsip said:

 

Hang on a sec, is that an externally flyable B-25?

Hi Lemsip,

yes and no, it is a flyable B25, I ported all the AI B25 files over to the A20 folder, which worked mostly. the upper and lower turrets being the noticeable exception. I did this to see how far the external model had been taken, and how many systems would respond to player inputs. I was pleasantly surprised, all the external systems worked, gear, flaps, control surfaces, etc etc. The model has plenty of detail built into the externals.

Of course the real modelling work is in building the Virtual cockpit, and gunner stations so I'm not expecting it to be a player flyable aircraft anytime soon, but its definitely doable and progressed quite a long way already. time will tell.

I'd be happy with just a pilot position and AI gunners to get it released sooner rather than later and have gunner positions added over time in updates.

 

regards Rob.

PS the A20 VC sat quite nicely in the B25 allowing for internal flying as well, just for laughs.

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Off_Winters

[Mysticpuma]

3 hours ago, Off_Winters said:

Hi Lemsip,

yes and no, it is a flyable B25, I ported all the AI B25 files over to the A20 folder, which worked mostly. the upper and lower turrets being the noticeable exception. I did this to see how far the external model had been taken, and how many systems would respond to player inputs. I was pleasantly surprised, all the external systems worked, gear, flaps, control surfaces, etc etc. The model has plenty of detail built into the externals.

Of course the real modelling work is in building the Virtual cockpit, and gunner stations so I'm not expecting it to be a player flyable aircraft anytime soon, but its definitely doable and progressed quite a long way already. time will tell.

I'd be happy with just a pilot position and AI gunners to get it released sooner rather than later and have gunner positions added over time in updates.

 

regards Rob.

PS the A20 VC sat quite nicely in the B25 allowing for internal flying as well, just for laughs.

 

So for those not able to Mod, are you able to place the cockpit of the A20 and gun positions into the B-25?

[Blitzen]

Slightly but not much OT.

A quick comparison of map background ,color  & aircraft between Clod DWTobruk and the Tunisia Map presented here. Fun to see the differences, I think..

 It would be nice to be able to use the Hurricane in a Campaign on the Autumn Kuban Map noe, even better when all the aircraft used in that campaign would be realistic for say 1942 Western desert/Malta time period...

[Off_Winters]

5 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

So for those not able to Mod, are you able to place the cockpit of the A20 and gun positions into the B-25?

Hi Puma,

The A20 cockpit sits in ok, and you can use it, although you see the glass shapes of the B25 external in addition to the A20 glass when looking straight ahead.
but the gunners positions do not work at all visually, the location point/node linking the two model parts together sits to high causing the gunner positions post to sit outside the main fuselage.

I only did it to see what it looked like, I never thought it would be a game usable change so to speak.

regards Rob.

[352ndOscar]

Looking at the side by side of DWTonruk and IL2 ground textures makes me wonder.  I looked at a lot of landscape photos of Tunisia.  The time of the NA action is mid-winter (ok, Oct-May) and the sun will be low in the sky.  The yellow ochre color matches well with this time of year in the southern areas.  In the high summer, the exact same terrain is more of a buff beige/pink.  Don’t get me wrong, your textures are great,   I’m just thinking about what they would look like with a bit more buff beige/pink coloring........

[Beebop]

43 minutes ago, 352ndOscar said:

Looking at the side by side of DWTonruk and IL2 ground textures makes me wonder.  I looked at a lot of landscape photos of Tunisia.  The time of the NA action is mid-winter (ok, Oct-May) and the sun will be low in the sky.  The yellow ochre color matches well with this time of year in the southern areas.  In the high summer, the exact same terrain is more of a buff beige/pink.  Don’t get me wrong, your textures are great,   I’m just thinking about what they would look like with a bit more buff beige/pink coloring........

Nice idea. (although a lot of work).  There are two "winter" repaints of Kuban already, one for early winter, (the first one released) where the snow is patchy like after the first snowfall of the season and the "full winter" map where the 'snow' completely covers the landscape.

 

The only drawback,  ...it will add "Two Weeks" to this repaints release. ?

[rowdyb00t]

5 minutes ago, Beebop said:

Nice idea. (although a lot of work).  There are two "winter" repaints of Kuban already, one for early winter, (the first one released) where the snow is patchy like after the first snowfall of the season and the "full winter" map where the 'snow' completely covers the landscape.

 

The only drawback,  ...it will add "Two Weeks" to this repaints release. ?

  If you replaced the winter Kuban file with the mod, this would give you the winter sky. However, the sun would rise too late and set too early because of the location. This however can be edited ( I can’t remember the file names though ). 

[352ndOscar]

Nah, the Autumn map is perfect because of the long/lat of Tunis vs Black Sea.  The Winter map is too much.  There are heavy cloud patterns that fit the need, especially with the cloud mod. I was just ruminating as to what the lighter buff beige/pink tones would look like......

[Leif_]

It looks really wonderful. ??

[DetCord12B]

Working with @Off_Winters on some retextures of the existing assets.

 

WIP DAK uniform right and the default uniform left.

 

 

[352ndOscar]

@DetCord12B were you planning on doing something for NA like you did with the Tri-Color Disruptive and Hinterhalt-Tarnung mods you did a long time ago?

[DetCord12B]

Just now, 352ndOscar said:

@DetCord12B were you planning on doing something for NA like you did with the Tri-Color Disruptive and Hinterhalt-Tarnung mods you did a long time ago?

 

NA?

[352ndOscar]

North Africa - this mod?

[DetCord12B]

1 hour ago, 352ndOscar said:

North Africa - this mod?

 

Sorry, yeah. I'm doing the vehicles for Rob as well.

[352ndOscar]

Thanks...

[Stonehouse]

In case it helps the Fallschirmjager chute seems a little off colour wise. Not sure if the Germans always had the chute in cammo or if it changed to suit the theatre. I've seen shots of the Crete landings which looked as is the chutes were single coloured (B&W pics) as well so it may have been something that evolved during the war. The second pic is of a captured chute from circa 1945.

 

 

Edited November 16, 2020 by No457_Stonehouse

[Off_Winters]

Hi All,

Stonehouse, yes I agree the parachute looks to gaudy and bright, I'll tone down the colours to be more in line with the picture you have above. you got me thinking about the allied parachute, it too is a bit off. I have done a super quick touch up.

meplanes, thanks glad its working in with your work. the German train repaint at the moment is actually set to the British train. In quick combat no matter who you fly for you see the British train as your enemy. so I swapped the model over so I could see and check the repaint the work in QC.  I will change the models back once I have finished the repaint. then you'll see the correct markings on each train in missions etc.

regards Rob.

 

 

13 hours ago, No457_Stonehouse said:

In case it helps the Fallschirmjager chute seems a little off colour wise. Not sure if the Germans always had the chute in cammo or if it changed to suit the theatre. I've seen shots of the Crete landings which looked as is the chutes were single coloured (B&W pics) as well so it may have been something that evolved during the war. The second pic is of a captured chute from circa 1945.

 

 

Hi Stonehouse,

A first pass attempt to tone down the chute a bit, to be more inline with the picture of the original chute you showed in your post.

regards Rob.

[E69_julian57]

On 13/11/2020 at 7:15, DetCord12B said:

Working with @Off_Winters on some retextures of the existing assets.

 

WIP DAK uniform right and the default uniform left.

 

 

Hello @DetCord12B
The skin of the DAK soldier is very good
planned to make a skin for the tanker

 

 

Edited November 16, 2020 by E69_julian57

[Stonehouse]

Looks much better I think. It's really amazing how your repaint makes you forget that the map is really Kuban, a great job you're doing. 

[TP_Silk]

I'm considering making a mini campaign for the guys in TP running on a DServer on a separate machine to the one I fly on. Would I need to install the mod on the server machine (the one that I also design  the missions on) that hosts or just on the client machine?

[too-cool]

On 10/13/2020 at 6:53 PM, Off_Winters said:

UPDATED TO BETA-2.1 FILES 8-11-2020 link has been updated to new file.

Hi All,

This is the Second installment that replaces part 1 of the mod that changes the Kuban Autumn map to North Africa. I've called it Beta-2 and I will continue to use this thread to post updates, changing name to beta3 beta4 etc. Please uninstall part 1 and delete. then install part 2 with jsgme.

It is JSGME ready, place the unzipped folder into your mods folder and install. 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hl56d8unt15gao9/Kuban_Autum-1943_Desert_Beta_2.rar/file
 

2.1 update file that accounts for new skins and aircraft added in recent official IL2 update. (Hurricane , C47, and skins for several other aircraft.)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/xmz7c12peg8aefx/Kuban_Autum-1943_Desert_Beta_2-1_update.rar/file

Uninstall Beta 2 files with JSGME and then place the extracted "data" folder into the "Kuban_Autum-1943_Desert_Beta_2" folder. and allow to overwrite when asked. This is replacing just 1 text file.

the next update to Beta-3 will include this.

 

The files included change the following:
Multiple aircraft set up with Desert scheme default skins.
Added in Desert scheme B25, painted using the IL2 official template with revisions by myself. wip still need to add in/refine weathering.
Added in Desert scheme A20, painted using the IL2 official template with revisions by myself. wip still need to add in/refine weathering.
In game menu's altered to reflect Nth Africa feel, and and aircraft changes.
New mission load screen applied.
Revised buildings on airfields (swapped out European model types) then repainted new model selections to look more Nth African rather than European
Desert ground textures (based off Esk_Pedja original idea and base texture), revised further and lightened in colour in various locations to give ground texture variation.
updated rail and road textures.
Revised forest area textures.
Afrika Korps uniforms on Germans, revised further.
Trains and wagons repainted with camo and historical markings.
Russian and USA pilot models are replaced with RAF pilots with three different uniforms showing in game. (just for beta1, in future release you will be able to pick either RAF or USAAF to replace pilot models.)
Revised gunner models for A20 and Pilot model for P39.
Trees are removed.
Revised short grass and field vegetation.
In game map has had Russian names removed from intermediate and close distance maps. (over to column 19 ie map square 1019, 2019 etc are the eastern boundary) I will finish this for all maps and put in Nth African sounding names in future.

The following people have graciously given permission to use their work in upcoming versions.
HBpencil -.......................................................Malta spitfires, and purpose painted default skin for Spitfire Vb.
geraki9 -........................................................109E7 skins.
E69_julian57 -.......................................... .... Skins, various
SARFlytitus - .................................................Italian Stukas, and many german stuff
Gremlin Gus -................................................Skins, various
FoxbatRU - ...................................................Skins, in particular your Ju.88A-4
Raptorattacker -............................................many different skins 109E7
6./ZG26_5tuka -...........................................Skins various
Beebop - ......................................................Ju52 Afrika Korps generic, P38 Torch generic skin.
SKG210_Molders -........................................helping with land textures and tanks.
FAW-Tromplamort -....................................... mc202 skins, and many others.
Detcord28 -.................................................... repainting vehicles to have desert camo, his tri colour repaint set currently in game being used as a stand in file for vehicles desert schemes

You need to uninstall this MOD when flying in any other map area. it does not hurt your install stock/vanilla in any way.

regards Rob.

 

Can not get any desert textures to display, only get green fields and a lot of trees.  Help  TC

[Stonehouse]

You did try a mission on the Kuban Autumn map? It is only that season of Kuban that is altered to desert scenery etc not every season.

 

If you did use Kuban Autumn for sure then it sounds like it isn't installed correctly and you would have to provide a lot more info about the steps you used to install it and how you are managing the mod for people to be able to help you

[too-cool]

11 minutes ago, No457_Stonehouse said:

You did try a mission on the Kuban Autumn map? It is only that season of Kuban that is altered to desert scenery etc not every season.

 

If you did use Kuban Autumn for sure then it sounds like it isn't installed correctly and you would have to provide a lot more info about the steps you used to install it and how you are managing the mod for people to be able to help you

I downloaded and installed the Kuban Autumn North Africa Beta-2 in my mods folder, I've try to run a quick mission on the Kuban Autumn map with only the the north africa mod installed and I'm seeing a lot of green fields and trees. the mod was moved to the active side of jsgme and with no other mods active. I'm lost.  TC

[SYN_Vander]

18 minutes ago, too-cool said:

I downloaded and installed the Kuban Autumn North Africa Beta-2 in my mods folder, I've try to run a quick mission on the Kuban Autumn map with only the the north africa mod installed and I'm seeing a lot of green fields and trees. the mod was moved to the active side of jsgme and with no other mods active. I'm lost.  TC

 

You did ...ahem... tick 'Mods on' in the IL2 launcher? (I forgot that!)

[Stonehouse]

I guess also check the folder structure you have for the mod. You should have something like the pic. I have seen friends installing mods make a really easy mistake to make with how they choose to unzip the file and ending up with a folder in a folder type thing where you get a structure like "Kuban_Autumn-1943_Desert_Beta_2\Kuban_Autumn-1943_Desert_Beta_2"  - It will still show in JSGME but the game won't load it properly because the folder structure doesn't match the game's.

 

PS If it turns out to be this issue remember to deactivate in JSGME before fixing or you might end up leaving a copy of the mod sitting in the game folder to no purpose but taking up a big chunk of space.

 

Edited November 17, 2020 by No457_Stonehouse

[too-cool]

4 minutes ago, No457_Stonehouse said:

I guess also check the folder structure you have for the mod. You should have something like the pic. I have seen friends installing mods make a really easy mistake to make with how they choose to unzip the file and ending up with a folder in a folder type thing where you get a structure like "Kuban_Autumn-1943_Desert_Beta_2\Kuban_Autumn-1943_Desert_Beta_2"  - It will still show in JSGME but the game won't load it properly because the folder structure doesn't match the game's.

 

PS If it turns out to be this issue remember to deactivate in JSGME before fixing or you might end up leaving a copy of the mod sitting in the game folder to no purpose but taking up a big chunk of space.

 

Same as you Show.  TC

[Off_Winters]

14 minutes ago, too-cool said:

Same as you Show.  TC

 

Hi Too-cool,

I See in your screen shot of your mods folder, you have your mods folder inside your data folder. that is not correct.
Place your mods folder directly into your game folder. if you look inside most user created mod folders you'll see the first level of folder structure used is "data" by placing your mods folder inside the actual data folder when jsgme installs the files it is creating a data folder inside the data folder. that is why your game cant see the files.

regards Rob.

 

[too-cool]

1 hour ago, Off_Winters said:

Hi Too-cool,

I See in your screen shot of your mods folder, you have your mods folder inside your data folder. that is not correct.
Place your mods folder directly into your game folder. if you look inside most user created mod folders you'll see the first level of folder structure used is "data" by placing your mods folder inside the actual data folder when jsgme installs the files it is creating a data folder inside the data folder. that is why your game cant see the files.

regards Rob.

 

That did it, but believe it or not I've had this game for over a year and I've always had my mods folder inside the data folder. Lean something new ever day. Thanks everyone for the help.  TC

[Off_Winters]

I'm loving the new Hurricane, couldn't help but tweak the VC a little bit, to get a Desert theatre feel. and I wanted a brown leather crash cushion for the gun sight rather than the black leather version supplied.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Off_Winters

[6./ZG26_Gielow]

Are you watching this thread, devs?!

Are you?? 

[Beebop]

11 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Gielow said:

Are you watching this thread, devs?!

Are you?? 

I'm sure they are but it won't change anything.  Too few resources.  Too few staff.  At best we might see trop filters on new planes where appropriate but I wouldn't even bet on that.  We'll get what we get and pushing them can perturb them.

The best we can do is buy content and support efforts like this so they will see that there is interest in the Community.  If they see enough interest they will be more likely to risk capital in that direction.  When you are as small as they are, customer satifaction with the current product and money drives better than customer wants.

[ironk79]

Fantastic mod, really feels and looks like NA.  Just makes you realize how "fresh" a non european/ eurasian theater would feel.

[352ndOscar]

Taken by a member of our little band from our Sunday Night session.  Really shows this mod in a great light!

[No_85_Gramps]

Okay, first off, this mod is fantastic! So, just to be sure, you need to install the Malta beta1 mod, the Kuban Autumn 1943 desert beta 2 mod and the beta 2 update? Correct? I assume that for MP/Coop gaming that all parties need "mods on" activated, and have installed the 3 mod files. Correct? One last question with regards to mission building, currently, when using the mod, the original Kuban templates are used for populating the map? And lastly a hearty thank you for all the work you have done on this mod!

 

 

[Beebop]

Not exactly.

You only need one version, the Beta2 being the most current.  Installing all three will require you book an appointment with your computers psychiatrist to sort out the confusion.?

 

For online MP yes, Mods need to be enabled no one must have the mod.  if they don't have the mod they will see the stock Kuban Autumn map.  If you host the Beta2 mod and another party has a different version, like beta 1 or Malta), that what they will see.

Gameplay will remain the same for all parties but the visual graphics would be different.

 

As for mission building, you can have the mod enabled or not.  If it is enabled the textures will reflect the mod.  If not you will see the stock map textures.  The same ME objects are used but the mod may re-texture building, trucks, trains AA gunners etc.

Note, if you leave the mod enabled and use a different season or sometimes even  different map some object textures will transfer but only for you and anyone else who keeps the mod enabled.  To get rid of them just disable the mod through JSGME..

Edited November 25, 2020 by Beebop

[No_85_Gramps]

Thanks Beebop! Appreciate the info.

[Beebop]

You're welcome.  You were very helpful to me during my early forays into the ME.  I'm glad I can repay that favor.