What time period do you enjoy flying in the most?

[ATAG_Flare]

Just curious which time periods during WWII people find most appealing to fly in sims already existing or in hypothetical future expansions to IL2 GB or CloD. I know lots of people enjoy the super beefy late war monsters like the Tempest and 190 D, while others enjoy the experience of the earlier aircraft like the Hurricane, 109 E, or I-16s.

[Feathered_IV]

You had me at Malta

[Eisenfaustus]

I‘d love a Battle of France module - or a spanish civil war module. Although I‘m well aware that I belong to a minority in this regard ^^

[Chief_Mouser]

On 7/31/2020 at 10:58 AM, Eisenfaustus said:

I‘d love a Battle of France module - or a spanish civil war module. Although I‘m well aware that I belong to a minority in this regard ^^

 

I'm not so sure that you (we) ARE in a minority. 

 

Spanish Civil War

Khalkin Gol

Poland

Winter War

France

Greece/Albania

Malta

Iraq

Barbarossa

 

I'd go for any of those. At the drop of a hat.

Cheers.

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by 216th_Cat
Added Khalkin Gol

[56RAF_Stickz]

Right with the malta. Then western desert which basically relied on Malta. Although would add in 1941 as well. So Clod right up my street.

[ATAG_SKUD]

Malta....?

 

 

YES!!

lotsa Ju 88s WITH TORPS

[RAAF492SQNOz_Steve]

Malta!, Malta!, Malta!

This thread has a Malta echo (and I am proud to add to it) ?

 

Flying over Valletta Grand Harbour in Faith, Hope or Charity (and yes I know that was a bit of a PR exercise) taking on innumerable Italian aircraft.

Then the Luftwaffe arrive..............

[Roast]

Finland ! Finland ! Finland ! ?

and the Netherlands too, of course

 

 

 

 

[TheOldCrow]

6 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

I‘d love a Battle of France module - or a spanish civil war module. Although I‘m well aware that I belong to a minority in this regard ^^

 

Battle of France or the Spanish Civil war would be amazing to me. Flying Hawk 75's over the french country side, or flying with the Condor Legion over Spain.

[ATAG_Flare]

I am slightly surprised at the results of the poll so far with the overwhelming majority voting for early war. I myself much prefer the early war planes - the 109 E-1, MiG-3, Blenheim, and Hurricane are all personal favourites.

 

However due to the fact that so many forum posts I see are arguing over boost levels and performance figures of the big boys like the 109 K, Spitfire IX, P-51D, Dora, etc, and everyone always seems to want the highest performing warbirds, I am surprised to see this result. Also considering that the first step IL2 GB took towards the western nations was with Bodenplatte, and similar planes having been developed for DCS.

 

Here's hoping we get a winter war or Malta expansion at some point! Perhaps with the new Hurricane collector plane we might see a Battle of Finland DLC for great battles, or after Tobruk CloD might go for a Malta pack or Battle of France, already having the starting content necessary for lots of the planes or the map.

[Bremspropeller]

Depends on the theatre - mid to late in general floats my boat the most, though.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

This poll is not designed well because there are no additional options such as "not sure", "don't care" or "other". People that are indifferent or prefer some other time period have no opportunity to respond truthfully. This largely invalidates the results.

 

I will happily fly in any time period, although I prefer scenarios where both sides have enough resources to effectively operate a wide variety of aircraft.

Edited July 31, 2020 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[Chief_Mouser]

2 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

This poll is not designed well because there are no additional options such as "not sure" , "don't care" or "other". People that are indifferent or prefer some other time period have no opportunity to respond truthfully. This largely invalidates the results.

 

No it doesn't. It's a poll asking a specific question with three options. The results about those three options will answer what the poll has asked and nothing more. If you are 'indifferent or prefer some other time period' why would you bother taking part? It's not compulsory.

[Redwo1f]

In really broad general terms:

 

Mid war (in general, conflict still could go either way, relative parity regarding aircraft) > Early war (lots of interesting aircraft types and variants) > Late war (though having what many feel are  the "best" sexy variants, the writing was already on wall and the end was pretty much a foregone conclusion (= not nearly as interesting))

Edited July 31, 2020 by Redwo1f

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

5 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

It's a poll asking a specific question with three options. The results about those three options will answer what the poll has asked and nothing more. If you are 'indifferent or prefer some other time period' why would you bother taking part?

 

The problem is that the options are not exhaustive. They cannot capture all possible answers to the question, potentially missing important results. The lack of alternative options can also induce responses that are not entirely accurate.

 

Suppose that there are many people that haven no preference or predominantly enjoy a time period other than the three listed. That's relevant information that the poll creator should know.

 

Including "Do not know" and "Other" is just the standard design for this type of question.

[Redwo1f]

@Mitthrawnuruodo - you are reading way to much into this. I see it as I think it is intended as just a general preference question and not meant to be a scientific polling event (actually nothing on this particular forum could even be remotely considered that -- ever). But I do get your point and yes, perhaps a fourth option of "I don't know, or can't decide, or it really depends specifically on the scenario" should have been included  -- but hey, it is just for fun anyways ?

 

[Eisenfaustus]

13 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

Suppose that there are many people that haven no preference or predominantly enjoy a time period other than the three listed. That's relevant information that the poll creator should know.

The question is about a war fought 39-45, the timeframes are 39-41,42-43 and 44-45 - what other timeframe would you prefer???

 

and if the answer is „I don’t care“ - then not participating is the way to go. There are so many polls on the internet I don’t care about - answering them all would take up a lifetime. ^^

 

edit: „depends on scenario“ would have been a good 4th option, I agree

Edited July 31, 2020 by Eisenfaustus

[Dogbert1953]

BoF & BoB period, Hurricane all day long.

 

Skip the middle and then June 1944 - May 1945 Western Front only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Avimimus]

Very interesting! I suspect that the current ratios (52%, 34%, 13%) will change as less fanatical people who check the forums less often are also more likely to gravitate to late-war aircraft (i.e. the 'best' aircraft... defined not as best for their time period, but best for when the end of the war stopped development).

 

I personally prefer >1942 for the following reasons:

- Aircraft have lower wing loadings and less energy.

- Most cannons are lower velocity and have less ammunition

 

The result is that you tend to get less 'zoom and boom' long range cannon sniping and more elegant turning fights ...one's where you see your opponent up close, and you know you've won out of maneuvering long before you deliver the killing blow ...as opposed to the late war where the emphasis is more on seeing your opponent first, having superior energy, and being a good marksman (things which matter in the earlier war too, but not quite as much).

 

Give me a Mig-3 or a Ki-43 any day! I'll even try flying them into '45 if you let me  

[Redwo1f]

4 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Very interesting! I suspect that the current ratios (52%, 34%, 13%) will change as less fanatical people who check the forums less often are also more likely to gravitate to late-war aircraft (i.e. the 'best' aircraft... defined not as best for their time period, but best for when the end of the war stopped development).

 

 

 

Related poll from 2 years ago: 

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a slight bias of choice regarding preferred play style - with multi-players leaning perhaps slightly(?) more to late war (and the "best" examples of variants)

Edited August 1, 2020 by Redwo1f

[Gambit21]

Couldn’t answer the poll.

42 is still early war - 43 mid war.

 

Early to Mid war PTO would be my answer.

[Eisenfaustus]

7 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Couldn’t answer the poll.

42 is still early war - 43 mid war.

 

Early to Mid war PTO would be my answer.

42 is mid war in this poll - early pto is completely covered in midwar ^^

[sergio_]

It would be awesome to see Spanish civil war in a sim. I might be a bit biased there. But hey, who isn't biased in an poll?

[jollyjack]

In IL2 1946 the pacific with Japanese planes and flat-tops was quite something, but as for maps (as i remember playing it 20 years ago) not very appealing.

The included Catalinas and other flyboat stuff i too miss in GB. Great for the Mediteranean area especially.

 

Generally for me IL2 GB is sometimes a bit too much of a pure simshooter, if you look at it from a historical viewpoint.

There were quite a few other plane types common in WW2 times.

 

I like the trains, ships and cars/trucks in GB a lot; would like to see more player controllable types than only tanks.

Expand a bit there and i think the GB series would appeal to far more sim buying gamers.

 

For graphics and ME editing possibilities IL2GB is a real winner. Especially because of assistance from forummers' like Jim_TM, Gambit, IckyATLAS and many others.

 

Last year i bought TSW 2020 partly (a train sim) mainly for the graphics; but it gets quite boring after a while with all that game puzzle mouse work involved.

Cross a red light and you're dead, Game Over, no damage modeling there LoL. You can never derail and nicely run over a signalers house or worse.

Though it has game saving options if you flunked out. Just reload from before it went wrong.

 

PS The train department in IL2 is IMO even better due program-ability options, and if expanded there a little it would make GB quite more appealing in sim gamersland.

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by jollyjack

[Guest deleted@171995]

1943-44: Як-9У, Спит-14,А-26 Invader, Ф6Ф-5, Ф4У-1C & D, Р-63С Кингкобра и другие. В первую очередь мне интересен тихоокеанский театр военных действий периода 43-44 гг. это и каталины с их японскими аналогами для поиска сбитых пилотов, сражения палубной авиации и сухопутной над океаном. Ки-84, J2M против Хэллкетов и Корсаров. Атаки торпедоносцами кораблей и судов как в старом Ил-2. Тот же А-20 нёс 2 торпеды раньше. Сейчас такого класса ударных самолётов вообще нет в игре.

 

1943-44: Yak-9U, Spit-14,A-26 Invader, F6F-5, F4U-1C & D, P-63C Kingcobra and others. First of all, I am interested in the Pacific theater of operations of the period 43-44. this and Catalina with their Japanese counterparts for searching for downed pilots, the battle of deck aircraft and land over the ocean. Ki-84, J2M against Hellcats and Corsairs. Torpedo attacks on ships and vessels as in the old Il-2. The same A-20 carried 2 torpedoes earlier. Now this class of strike aircraft is not in the game at all.

[=FCU=BurnesOldman]

Dne 31. 7. 2020 v 11:58 Eisenfaustus řekl:

Líbil by se mi modul Battle of France - nebo modul španělské občanské války. I když dobře vím, že v tomto ohledu patřím k menšině ^^

Španělská občanská válka splnila její i můj (zatím) nesplněný sen,but I don't have much illusions. I have several books on the Spanish Civil War and so many aircraft models have been used there, even in just one copy, that it is probably unrealistic. France would also be great

Edited March 27, 2022 by =FCU=BurnesOldman

[Cybermat47]

Early war, the vast majority of my favourite planes can be found in and between the Battle of Britain and the Battle of Moscow.

[56RAF_Roblex]

I like them all though I find it disappointing that I so rarely get to fly I-16s and Migs etc. as most people don't like BoM.   I used to love playing BoB scenarios but the servers in CLoD were too furball oriented.   Would really love to have something with carriers whether that is in the Pacific or Med or Atlantic. I would even accept the anachronism of pretending Germany finished and launched the Graf Zeppelin.

[Missionbug]

For me early war aircraft are the most interesting, sadly developers always seem to go with the late war super planes, they really are missing much.

 

Battle of France and Finland's war for me the most interesting, however, the Spanish Civil war would be something I would also love to see as are many of

those early war/pre war scenarios.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Jade_Monkey]

My biggest issue with early period is that the low caliber guns are very unsatisfying. Other than that I'm open to explore any scenario, they all have interesting aspects.

 

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

My biggest issue with early period is that the low caliber guns are very unsatisfying. Other than that I'm open to explore any scenario, they all have interesting aspects.

 

 

Now see I find the increased power, increased speed, more refined and "powerful" nature of late war aircraft less satisfying.

Give me an I16, an MiG-3, a 109E, or better yet an early P-40, a Wildcat, a Zero and an Oscar. 

 

Early war is the sweet spot IME.

 

 

[Ribbon]

On 8/3/2020 at 1:19 AM, Gambit21 said:

Couldn’t answer the poll.

42 is still early war - 43 mid war.

 

Early to Mid war PTO would be my answer.

This^^^