FC - History & Future? Jason & Daniel/Han Interview

[Varibraun]

Last 10 minutes have great insight for anyone new to the history of Flying Circus AND maybe an optimistic tone about the future?   Hopefully, these sales and the WWI community can keep newcomers "buying and flying" these crates. 

 

[JGr2/J5_Baeumer]

 

Begin at 49:00.  Promising indeed.  Especially right to the very, very, end. 

Thanks for posting @Varibraun

 

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by J5_Baeumer

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Anybody want to just give us the gist of it?

 

I really can't be bothered to listen to this, and I know I'm not the only one who would appreciate a short synopsis (from "49:00") so I don't have to break out the ear buds.

[Varibraun]

1 hour ago, US63_SpadLivesMatter said:

Anybody want to just give us the gist of it?

 

"...we hope to continue..." 

With what I hear as a positive "tone" from both Jason & Daniel 

[ST_Catchov]

C'mon Jason and Han don't talk about it, do it. We want FC2. Give it to us. End of message. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

15 hours ago, US63_SpadLivesMatter said:

Anybody want to just give us the gist of it?

 

I really can't be bothered to listen to this, and I know I'm not the only one who would appreciate a short synopsis (from "49:00") so I don't have to break out the ear buds.

 

We've basically heard the same message a couple of times from Jason, with this being the most recently, that a Vol 2 for Flying Circus is something they want and hope to be able to do. They just can't announce anything right now.

 

Reading between the lines I think they are working on a plan for Vol 2 and that it's just a matter of time. Because they used an external contractor that may also be part of the reason why it will take a little extra time to put things together as contracts need to be signed.

[Cynic_Al]

13 hours ago, catchov said:

C'mon Jason and Han don't talk about it, do it. We want FC2. Give it to us. End of message. 

 

What would you like them to concentrate on first: More planes or the extravagant luxury of having them visible whenever they should be?

[Zooropa_Fly]

With now 100's of hours under my belt, I've yet to see anything with cloaking capabilities.

[No.23_Gaylion]

4 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

With now 100's of hours under my belt, I've yet to see anything with cloaking capabilities.

 

Yes it happens from time to time across the whole series. It sucks but they, the devs, have acknowledged it and have worked hard to combat the issue. There's a huge thread in the bug report section and they collect trackfiles for analysis. 

 

It has been a very long time since I had experienced it and thought they might have fixed the issue. Unfortunately we came across it last night.

 

From last night:

 

 

 

Still kept playing though!

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by US93_Talbot

[J2_Bidu]

2 hours ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

What would you like them to concentrate on first: More planes or the extravagant luxury of having them visible whenever they should be?

 

It could be argued that more planes are already available. Who knows? ?

[JGr2/J5_Baeumer]

Let's take this thread....what should be a very positive thread, and try to merge all the most negative BS from the past few months into it!  While we are at it, let's troll our most negative community members (all 4 or 5 of them) to add to the pile of s**t of the past few months. 

 

But wait, there's more!  MORE opportunity to take this thread, this forum and this community and divert it DOWN into that pile of s**t that was created by a few people and start telling the devs and everyone else (especially new and potential community members) what is lacking and how to do their jobs.

 

Yeah!  Let's do THAT!  THAT instead of maybe purchasing a second (or for some of us, fifth) copy of Flying Circus.... let's do THAT, instead of something productive, positive and that has potential to actually get ALL of US what we really would like.  Volume 2 and continued development.

[No.23_Gaylion]

The interview it seems to sound very promising for Flying Circus. I think once they get some free time that work will be devoted towards it. 

 

I hope they poll the community on the future planeset and add to what is currently here to fully flesh out a spring 1918 theatre. 

 

For the love of God more maps though!

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by US93_Talbot

[J2_Bidu]

If you don't get excited with this interview you're dead.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

4 hours ago, J2_Bidu said:

 

It could be argued that more planes are already available. Who knows? ?

 

Best reply ever.

[Enceladus828]

If there is at least one plane in FC2 that wasn't in Rise of Flight, I might get FC2.

 

If there is ever a Collector Plane for FC and it wasn't in RoF, as well as if there's a map that also wasn't in RoF like Austria-Hungary, Italy, etc. I'll get them.

 

But if like FC1, FC2 is the same planes (10 planes) and map from RoF and it costs $80 regular, I'm not getting it.

Not trying to be antagonistic towards the devs here,  in the Flight sim and IL-2 world, hitting the buy button means further development and more installments/planes for many things. With FC1 it may not as there's really no content that justifies its price of $80 US. As stated by Jason, a FC2 will happen if there's enough demand by customers and if the team, Ugra Media are willing to.

As I said, I'm not trying to be antagonistic to the devs, just my view on this. If something appealing appears on Flying Circus (whatever this series will be called), I'll get it, but for now No.

 

Salute.

Edited July 4, 2020 by Novice-Flyer

[TAAC_Blue]

@Novice-Flyer

 

A qoute from you in the Desert Wings Discussion thread...

 

 

"Whether you're a VR or non-VR person, just buy it; you don't have to play it as often, but by buying it you're supporting the team and increasing the chances of them going to another theater(s) and flying planes that probably would Not be in IL-2 GBs, even if there was no TFS. "

 

So if there is a FC2 with the same old RoF planes, you're buying it right? 

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

There seems to be a much bigger following for IL-2's WW2 offerings- making a dollar spent over there a better "investment" toward future content of that type.

 

Maybe a potential FC2 would sell better if they only sold it on Sundays and Thursdays....  ?

Edited July 4, 2020 by US63_SpadLivesMatter

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

On 7/3/2020 at 1:55 PM, J5_Baeumer said:

 

 

Yeah!  Let's do THAT!  THAT instead of maybe purchasing a second (or for some of us, fifth) copy of Flying Circus.... let's do THAT, instead of something productive, positive and that has potential to actually get ALL of US what we really would like.  Volume 2 and continued development.

 

I wonder how a Go Fund Me Kickstarter page would fare.

[DakkaDakkaDakka]

I will gladly buy more WWI content, be it airplanes or maps. I hope we can continue to see revision and improvement to the DM as part of that.

[migmadmarine]

Absolutely want a Volume 2. Imagine it will be more ports of RoF aircraft, but it would be super cool if they added say one new aircraft per side to help lure people in. Perhaps lean into the 1918 lineup and finally add in the Sopwith Snipe and Siemens-Schuckert D.III that were long theorized over for RoF. 

[Cynic_Al]

On 7/3/2020 at 8:53 PM, J2_Bidu said:

If you don't get excited with this interview you're dead.

 

That or you've heard it all before in previous interviews and Q&As.

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

3 hours ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

That or you've heard it all before in previous interviews and Q&As.

To be fair we did get FC1 like we wanted. But I get what your saying. Don't get your hopes up. I for one has my hopes up but I also hope they call it something other than flying circus. Something Entente. And hope we get the Snipe. That plane alone will help sell the next installment 1000 times more than any other.

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

It's good they discussed FC and the WW1 project at least. On a dollar-for-dollar basis, a dollar invested in WW2 content will yield more sales at the end of the tunnel, quality of content being equal. This has been the reality for many years. It's a limitation we've all dealt with, some of us for a long time.

 

I wonder if a means of testing the water would be DLC add-ons for FC1 before going to a full FC2 - say another two-seater and another single-seater on each side for the 1918 period.  It sounds as if there is a desire to continue in WW1, though the team's resources are limited and WW2 brings stronger returns. A reasonably priced DLC pack of two planes per side, along with some patch fixes to stuff like the SE5a energy retention, would go a long way if FC2 is still not in the cards.

 

One thing they mentioned that is important is getting connected with community resources. For example, I'd love to see some community-made, historic skins and maybe the improved legibility gauges make it into the core game. I'm sure there are even more resources out there to be leveraged. Some of the older games like Red Baron 3d had a huge second life because community resources made such a difference.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

5 hours ago, Krispy_Duck said:

SE5a energy retention

 

You can't fix what is not broken. The S.E.5a has a diffrent role than in RoF. It is more a high speed high altitude interceptor with its current engine and prop pitch setup. Not the B&Z plane it used to be in RoF. You can fly her very successfull with her new role. You just have to adapt your flying style. More engine options would be a way to get your RoF S.E.5a back. It also would be great for the Albatros and the vanilla D7. It will bring more variaty in the planeset without having to port over more ACs. Maybe this would be the right way to go if ressources are that limited.

Edited July 7, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[ST_Catchov]

3 hours ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

You can't fix what is not broken.

 

Surely you can't be serious Sizzlorr?

[J99_Sizzlorr]

3 minutes ago, catchov said:

 

Surely you can't be serious Sizzlorr?

I'm very serious...

[Hohenadler]

How about turning it into something like Bethedsa's Elderscrolls so the community could create content like new maps and planes? or porting in ROF planes with one new plane offered as a collector with new maps/campaigns in other theatres of WWI besides the western front? 

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

15 hours ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

I'm very serious...

 

And don't call me Shirley.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

1 minute ago, US63_SpadLivesMatter said:

 

And don't call me Shirley.

I don't, Shirley...

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

16 hours ago, catchov said:

 

Surely you can't be serious Sizzlorr?

 

I know, right? I laughed when I read it. Good bit of humor for a Wednesday.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

52 minutes ago, Krispy_Duck said:

 

I know, right? I laughed when I read it. Good bit of humor for a Wednesday.

We can agree to disagree no need to be childish about it...

 

PS: I am happy when you are happy 

Edited July 8, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

1 hour ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

I don't, Shirley...

 

Surely you've seen Airplane, Sizzlorr?

[J99_Sizzlorr]

5 minutes ago, US63_SpadLivesMatter said:

 

Surely you've seen Airplane, Sizzlorr?

Nope haven't seen it. Even if I had the joke would probably get lost in translation....we tend to dubb everything on TV here. Oh and don't call me Shirley...

Edited July 8, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[76SQN-FatherTed]

14 hours ago, Hohenadler said:

How about turning it into something like Bethedsa's Elderscrolls so the community could create content like new maps and planes? or porting in ROF planes with one new plane offered as a collector with new maps/campaigns in other theatres of WWI besides the western front? 

 

Definitely NOT community-developed planes.  We bicker enough about DMs, without throwing perceived bias into the mix.

 

I do think they could go back to the RoF model: develop and sell small batches of new planes, rather than go all-in on "FC2".

[Hohenadler]

8 hours ago, =CfC=FatherTed said:

 

Definitely NOT community-developed planes.  We bicker enough about DMs, without throwing perceived bias into the mix.

 

I do think they could go back to the RoF model: develop and sell small batches of new planes, rather than go all-in on "FC2".

How about community developed planes that go through the devs to make sure that the DM and flight model is accurate?

[76SQN-FatherTed]

17 hours ago, Hohenadler said:

How about community developed planes that go through the devs to make sure that the DM and flight model is accurate?

Perhaps I shouldn't have been quite so vehement - you're right, there could be ways to lighten the load for the devs, yet still ensure a good product

[No.23_Starling]

17 hours ago, =CfC=FatherTed said:

Perhaps I shouldn't have been quite so vehement - you're right, there could be ways to lighten the load for the devs, yet still ensure a good product

Team Fusion have a great model (no pun intended)

[Tycoon]

1 hour ago, US93_Rummell said:

Team Fusion have a great model (no pun intended)

I thought tf were all paid employees now?

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

One of the issues from back in the CFS2/CFS3 days was you'd have plane packs where some were really good and then others were not well done. If people are paying to download user-made planes as an endorsed DLC, you need the quality on a par or better than the official stuff. The builders would need to provide all original "source materials" and all research on which they based the plane for official developer review. I think to do this, you'd have to organize your community modders into a single entity rather than developers working directly with disparate individuals. It's easier to coordinate between two development teams (often both being paid entities/companies) rather than developers and then a nebulous group of individual modders.

Edited July 10, 2020 by Krispy_Duck

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

1 hour ago, Tycoon said:

I thought tf were all paid employees now?

I believe they will be once CoD5 comes out. If they actually sell any copies.