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But I thought that there were no Yak-9s at Stalingrad?

Trooper117
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The first Yak-9 entered service in October 1942 and first saw combat in late 1942 during the Battle of Stalingrad. The versatile Yak-9 operated with a wide variety of armament for use in anti-tank, light bomber and long-range escort roles.

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2 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

The first Yak-9 entered service in October 1942 and first saw combat in late 1942 during the Battle of Stalingrad. The versatile Yak-9 operated with a wide variety of armament for use in anti-tank, light bomber and long-range escort roles.

I thought so too. But I thought Luke mentioned some big argument somewhere where they were saying the Yak-9s at Stalingrad was a myth?

Trooper117
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In late December 1942 Yak 9s took part in the Soviet counter offensive at the Battle of Stalingrad. The aircraft had entered service with the 1st Air Army on the Western front a little earlier. (Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War, by Yefim Gordon and Dmitri Khazanov)

 

Also, Christer Bergstrom mentions the Yak 9 being introduced towards the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, delivered to 168 IAP (Stalingrad, The Air Battle 1942-through January 1943)

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Trooper117
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That is one dirty well used Yak 9!

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Nice skin Julian:salute:

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11 hours ago, Danziger said:

I thought so too. But I thought Luke mentioned some big argument somewhere where they were saying the Yak-9s at Stalingrad was a myth?

 

11 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

In late December 1942 Yak 9s took part in the Soviet counter offensive at the Battle of Stalingrad. The aircraft had entered service with the 1st Air Army on the Western front a little earlier. (Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War, by Yefim Gordon and Dmitri Khazanov)

 

Also, Christer Bergstrom mentions the Yak 9 being introduced towards the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, delivered to 168 IAP (Stalingrad, The Air Battle 1942-through January 1943)

 

 

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BMA_FlyingShark
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Thank you for another nice skin, Julian.

 

Have a nice day.

 

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22 hours ago, Danziger said:

I thought so too. But I thought Luke mentioned some big argument somewhere where they were saying the Yak-9s at Stalingrad was a myth?

 

If in question that Yak-9s were present at Stalingrad, just think of it as a late 7B. There was no significant difference visually. So no problem having them flying around at Stalingrad with 1Bs and 7Bs.

 

 

Aero*Bohemio
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Great skins!

Impresionantes Julián, y bien guarreadas como debe ser. Gracias!

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On 5/28/2020 at 10:12 PM, Trooper117 said:

In late December 1942 Yak 9s took part in the Soviet counter offensive at the Battle of Stalingrad. The aircraft had entered service with the 1st Air Army on the Western front a little earlier. (Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War, by Yefim Gordon and Dmitri Khazanov)

 

Also, Christer Bergstrom mentions the Yak 9 being introduced towards the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, delivered to 168 IAP (Stalingrad, The Air Battle 1942-through January 1943)

 

Would be interesting to check 42 IAP and 168 IAP planes for 11/42-1/43. Operation Uranus and later.

 

This is what I have on this topic:

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The Yak-9 went into production at Novosibirsk in October 1942 and entered service in December with Shinkarenko’s 42 IAP in the defence of Stalingrad. In January 1943 Factory No 166 at Omsk started Yak-9 production, while Factory No 82 continued turning out Yak-7 variants until early 1944, when it switched to the Yak-9U. By the end of the war 14,579 Yak-9s of various types had emerged, with post-war production to the end of 1948 raising the total to 16,769 Yak-9s.

Mellinger, George. Yakovlev Aces of World War 2 (Aircraft of the Aces) . Bloomsbury Publishing. Kindle-Version. 

 

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Yak-9 was produced in three large factories (NN 153, 166, 82), participated in all operations of the Soviet Army, starting with the Battle of Stalingrad. This is one of the last and one of the best propeller-driven fighters of the Second World War. All its modifications had excellent tactical flight characteristics, had no significant structural or operational defects, leading to accidents.

Miller, Dennis W.. Series of Soviet Yak-9 Fighters in the World War II: Weapons and Air Forces of the World . Kindle-Version. 

 

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Yak-9 M-105PF produced two plants: N153 - from October 1942 to February 1943 (from the 1st to the 3rd series, the last aircraft - N03-51), a total of 195 aircraft; and N 166, from January to August 1943 (from 1st to 6th series), a total of 264 aircraft. Thus, a total of 459 Yak-9 M-105PFs were built. For the first time in the fighting, the Yak-9 took part during the Soviet counteroffensive at Stalingrad in the second half of December 1942.

Miller, Dennis W.. Series of Soviet Yak-9 Fighters in the World War II: Weapons and Air Forces of the World . Kindle-Version. 

 

 

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SARFlytitus
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Help! Please, someone can help me?  can't stop downloading and now i'm just startin' to evaluate a new massive and much expensive ssd only for the skins… DAMN!!!!

@E69_julian57 Another Great work… Hey man, you are a really skinning-machine! Thanx so much

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On 5/29/2020 at 5:22 PM, sevenless said:

Would be interesting to check 42 IAP and 168 IAP planes for 11/42-1/43. Operation Uranus and later.

 

This is what I have on this topic:

 

Yes, and Black Six has already said that those are all errors that have crept into English-language literature.

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4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, and Black Six has already said that those are all errors that have crept into English-language literature.

 

Unfortunately he missed to publish the primary sources, which makes it impossible to review them.

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@E69_julian57

 

Mate,if you have the time for it, can I request a set of generic skins for PWCG?

 

1. Green/Black standard

2.Blue- Grey/Grey standard

 

Each of them with numbers from 1-12

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

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E69_julian57
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Hello @Semor76
What version of Yak would be, with time I will make them.

:salute:

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19 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Hello @Semor76
What version of Yak would be, with time I will make them.

:salute:

Saluté

Make both versions please, if you own them.

 

Yak-9 in both camo shemes, and the Yak-9T in the late, .Blue- Grey/Grey sheme only

 

Thanks

E69_julian57
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Hello @Semor76
From yak 9 two camouflages= 24 skins
From yak 9T two camouflages = 12 skins
Sounds good to you.:soldier:

How you laugh szelljr.....one can't be good:lol:
Just kidding.:biggrin:

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6 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Hello @Semor76
From yak 9 two camouflages= 24 skins
From yak 9T two camouflages = 12 skins
Sounds good to you.:soldier:

 

Yuuup. Thats it! Muchas gracias.

BMA_FlyingShark
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Keep 'em coming, Julian.

 

Thank you for your nice work.

 

Have a nice day.

 

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Carlos_Cota_517
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N. F. Kizim's Yak-9U, 151 GIAP, Bulgaria, June 1945

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Link:
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Maybe I'll update it later if I can find a better font for the "29"

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Sekula, M. (2020, 20 abril). Yak-9U, 151 giap, 13 giad. Sovietwarplanes pages. Recuperado 2 de agosto de 2022, de https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/yak9/misos/yak9u151giap/yak9u151giap.htm

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Yaroslaw_spb
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The photo is no older/later, it's just different. It's a different plane and a different pilot. In this photo, the Yak-9 No.42 and its pilot Mankevich V.M. and his technician. Morozov No.43, Mankevich No.42.

In the second photo - Sq. commanders of 163 IAP. Mankevich on the left. His total score of 18 victory during the war.
Good skins, my friend!

 

P.S. Captain Mankevich was the squadron commander, and the Senior Lieutenant (at that moment) Morozov was a flight commander in his squadron. And very often they flew in pairs. Especially for free hunting and various special tasks from the command. I think it makes sense to also make the Yak-9 No.42 Mankevich as well. Morozov has 12 victories during the war. 18 victory has Mankevich. 18 + 12. A great pair of aces... ;)

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Carlos_Cota_517
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4 hours ago, Yaroslaw_spb said:

The photo is no older/later, it's just different. It's a different plane and a different pilot. In this photo, the Yak-9 No.42 and its pilot Mankevich V.M. and his technician. Morozov No.43, Mankevich No.42.

In the second photo - Sq. commanders of 163 IAP. Mankevich on the left. His total score of 18 victory during the war.
Good skins, my friend!

 

P.S. Captain Mankevich was the squadron commander, and the Senior Lieutenant (at that moment) Morozov was a flight commander in his squadron. And very often they flew in pairs. Especially for free hunting and various special tasks from the command. I think it makes sense to also make the Yak-9 No.42 Mankevich as well. Morozov has 12 victories during the war. 18 victory has Mankevich. 18 + 12. A great pair of aces... 


Ooh okay, I messed it up then, sorry ☹️

 

4 hours ago, Yaroslaw_spb said:

Good skins, my friend!


Thanks! 

By the way, Do you know of any translated books/articles about Yak-9 aces? 

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08.08.2022 в 06:26, Carlos_Cota_517 сказал:


Ooh okay, I messed it up then, sorry ☹️

 


Thanks! 

By the way, Do you know of any translated books/articles about Yak-9 aces? 

Hi! I don't know anything about translated books, I'm sorry. I have been studying the history of the Air Force for many decades, I have collected very many books on this topic, among them hundreds of memoir books separately. But they are all in Russian, of course. In addition, I am from the dynasty of military pilots and those who created and produced airplanes. One of my grandfathers was a pilot of 618 SHAP, four of his brothers were also combat pilots, two were killed. And another grandfather - one of the creators of the IL-2, an engineer of the armored cabin workshop, worked at the factory where the production of the first Il-2 began, in Leningrad. I say this to the fact that I still have a lot of information about the war from their many and long stories of eyewitnesses and participants of the war. Well, I've also been doing scale models for almost forty years. Historical advice to friends on skins too. In general, I have a lot of very different information, from different angles of view - history, memories, modeling, paint and notation, etc. In general, if you have any questions about the historical part of the skins, I will be happy to help, if I know the answer of course...... ;)

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11 hours ago, Yaroslaw_spb said:

I have been studying the history of the Air Force for many decades, I have collected very many books on this topic, among them hundreds of memoir books separately. But they are all in Russian, of course. In addition, I am from the dynasty of military pilots and those who created and produced airplanes. One of my grandfathers was a pilot of 618 SHAP, four of his brothers were also combat pilots, two were killed. And another grandfather - one of the creators of the IL-2, an engineer of the armored cabin workshop, worked at the factory where the production of the first Il-2 began, in Leningrad. I say this to the fact that I still have a lot of information about the war from their many and long stories of eyewitnesses and participants of the war. Well, I've also been doing scale models for almost forty years. Historical advice to friends on skins too.


Woah, that's an impressive background! o((⊙ д ⊙))o.

I'm actually somewhat new to IL-2 gb (and flight sims in general)...

 

11 hours ago, Yaroslaw_spb said:

In general, if you have any questions about the historical part of the skins, I will be happy to help, if I know the answer of course...... ;)


Thank you!

Yes, I do have a couple of questions about painting skins...

1) How many victory marks should Morozov's white 43 and Mankevich's white 42 have, respectively?

2) How should I draw these victory marks? The footnote says its Cmdr PI Pavlova's, from 1944... I've noticed that the victory marks are borderless and they appear to be in different colours; the ones from the photo also don't match the ones of the diagram... Also, Should I draw the red banner badge & stars on both sides, or just on the left (port) side?

Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.jpg

asisbiz.com, & Acred, M. L. (2021, 2 septiembre). Yakovlev Yak 9D 21IAP White 51 flown by Cmdr PI Pavlova Baltics 1944 0A. Asisbiz. Recuperado 9 de agosto de 2022, de https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Yak-9/pages/Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.html

Thanks a lot!

Carlos_Cota_517
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P. I. Pavlova's Yak-9D, 21 IAP, Baltic front, 1944

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Link:
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On 8/9/2022 at 10:46 PM, Carlos_Cota_517 said:

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asisbiz.com, & Acred, M. L. (2021, 2 septiembre). Yakovlev Yak 9D 21IAP White 51 flown by Cmdr PI Pavlova Baltics 1944 0A. Asisbiz. Recuperado 9 de agosto de 2022, de https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Yak-9/pages/Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.html


If somebody has any suggestions, like painting the victory marks in a different clour, or adding more detail to the nose cone, feel free to tell me...

 

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10.08.2022 в 08:46, Carlos_Cota_517 сказал:


Вау, это впечатляющий фон! о((⊙ д ⊙))о.

Вообще-то я новичок в Ил-2 гб (и авиасимуляторах вообще)...

 


Благодарю вас!

Да, у меня есть пара вопросов по покраске скинов...

1) Сколько победных знаков должно быть у белых 43 Морозова и белых 42 Манкевича соответственно?

2) Как мне нарисовать эти знаки победы? В сноске написано, что это командир П.И. Павлова, 1944 г.... Я заметил, что знаки победы не имеют рамок и кажутся разного цвета; те, что на фото, тоже не совпадают с теми, что на диаграмме... Кроме того, должен ли я рисовать значок красного знамени и звезды с обеих сторон или только с левой (портовой) стороны? asisbiz.com и Acred, ML (2 сентября 2021 г.). Яковлев Як 9Д 21ИАП Белый 51, пилот П.И. Павлова, Балтика, 1944 г. 0A. Асисбиз. Recuperado 9 августа 2022, де

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https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Yak-9/pages/Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.html

Большое спасибо !

Hi! Sorry, I didn't answer, there was a lot to do. Regarding number 51, it seems to me that you did everything right. If we compare with a photo. Everything is as it should be. I can only argue with the camouflage colors that you use, it seems to me they are unnecessarily dark. But it can be an individual perception of course. And another moment. This is not army 21 IAP just from the Baltic Front, this is 21 IAP of the VVS KBF (aviation of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet), these are different regiments. ;) 

10.08.2022 в 08:46, Carlos_Cota_517 сказал:


Woah, that's an impressive background! o((⊙ д ⊙))o.

I'm actually somewhat new to IL-2 gb (and flight sims in general)...

 


Thank you!

Yes, I do have a couple of questions about painting skins...

1) How many victory marks should Morozov's white 43 and Mankevich's white 42 have, respectively?

2) How should I draw these victory marks? The footnote says its Cmdr PI Pavlova's, from 1944... I've noticed that the victory marks are borderless and they appear to be in different colours; the ones from the photo also don't match the ones of the diagram... Also, Should I draw the red banner badge & stars on both sides, or just on the left (port) side?

Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.jpg

asisbiz.com, & Acred, M. L. (2021, 2 septiembre). Yakovlev Yak 9D 21IAP White 51 flown by Cmdr PI Pavlova Baltics 1944 0A. Asisbiz. Recuperado 9 de agosto de 2022, de https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Yak-9/pages/Yakovlev-Yak-9D-21IAP-White-51-flown-by-Cmdr-PI-Pavlova-Baltics-1944-0A.html

Thanks a lot!

About Mankevich and Morozov. I have prepared my own version. I'll give you a separate post below...

So, my vision is V.M. Mankevich and A.S. Morozov, pairs of aces 163 IAP.
Two sets. The first two skins, historical (according to the photo), Mankevich and Morozov spring 1944....

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The second set is semi-historical, there are no such photos, but they should have looked like this by the end of the war. Autumn 1944. In August 1944, the regiment received the Order of the Red Banner and the honorary name "Sedletsky". Quote...

"On 08/19/1944, he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner by Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces 163 iap for exemplary performance of command tasks in battles with the German invaders, for the capture of the city of Chelm (Hill) and the valor and courage shown at the same time.

12.08.1944 For distinction in the battles for the capture of the cities of Sedlec, Minsk-Mazovetsky and Lukov by order of the Supreme Military Committee No. 0263
163 iap was awarded the honorary name "Sedletsky".

In such cases, very often the regiment's award (order) was painted on the regiment's aircraft. In addition, in memory of these pilots, in this version I give both pilots their total number of downed. And the coloring of the planes is a little different. The first pair has a fresher camouflage, the colors have a distinct gray tint. In the second version, in the autumn of 1944, the paint has already faded and has a bluer shade...

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The set also includes two default skins. Early and late. A grayer shade and a bluer one.

 

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/1zH_3Vg7i2h97Q

 

For the technical assistance of my idea of these skins, many thanks to my friend Rais (AviaSkins Art Group)

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