Yours_truly_Ace Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I have bought four of your modules (games). And now when I reinstalled I don't have any more space to install the game. I have an SSD with 111 GB, and after a clean windows install and that since your game now takes 51(!!!)GB on my hard drive I don't have enough space to install it. Can you please do so that I can choose which modules / games to install? Right now I just wants to play Flying Circus and Bodenplatte. 1 4 1
unlikely_spider Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 You think that's too much? Red Dead Redemption 2 takes 150 GB of space. Welcome to modern gaming - you will need more than a 100 GB hard drive to take part. Buy a slower mechanical drive and keep Windows on the SSD if you can. 1 2
Redwo1f Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 LOL, once upon a time 5GB was massive for a game...not any more at all. Biggest on my system at the moment: Forza Horizon 88 GB, IL2 1946 BAT 89GB, X-Com2 74 GB, Kingdom Come Deliverance 66GB, Divinity Original Sin 2 & TW Warhammer 2 both 55 GB.... nah, BoX is just fine. Guess you aren't going to be wanting MS Flight Sim 2020 which will probably be something like 300+ GB full detail scenery? LOL
352ndOscar Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Time to face facts.... Whatever computer you are trying to fly IL-2 on is no longer capable of doing so. 1
TheOldCrow Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 50gb is super low for the amount of content you get out of every expansion. Hell my DCS world install is 110 gb with 7 planes and 2 maps.
JG27*PapaFly Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 17 hours ago, 127Tom said: Can you please do so that I can choose which modules / games to install? I feel the same. Pushing all content into players computers, irrespective of whether they want that is lame IMO. Having to buy ever larger hard drives just to accommodate unwanted content is a waste of money and resources. 4 1 2
No.332.Animal_NO Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) new M2 SSD in the 500GB range: ~100USD Edit: Brainfart when converting currencies... Edited March 14, 2020 by No.331.The_Sig 1
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 How would you handle objects, i.e. planes, tanks, etc., from other "modules" when used on the "module" map you own? Within Bodenplatte you may have a mission to attack a group of German Tiger Tanks. If all modules aren't merged and you didn't own TC, you wouldn't see the tanks. As it is now, you see them regardless of "module" ownership. In mp, planes from many modules may be in a Bodenplatte map. You wouldn't see these aircraft if the modules were not merged. 1
THERION Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 17 hours ago, 127Tom said: Can you please do so that I can choose which modules / games to install? Right now I just wants to play Flying Circus and Bodenplatte. Don't worry, mate. I'm sure, they have noticed your concern and will implement this right away - they are especially happy to do it for you, because - actually - they are way too bored at the moment... 1 1
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, No.331.The_Sig said: new M2 SSD in the 500GB range: ~500USD What? The prices are far lower than that.
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 12, 2020 1CGS Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Technology marches on, people. The more advanced the game, the more disk space it's going to need. On a side note, this reminds a bit of the outrage many had when publishers started putting their games on DVDs. Cue the responses of "What???!!! Why do I need a confounded DVD drive to install this, when my CD drive has been working just fine!" 58 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: What? The prices are far lower than that. And plain old mechanical drives are also dirt cheap. A cursory look at Amazon shows many 1TB drives retailing for under 50 bucks. 18 hours ago, 127Tom said: I have an SSD with 111 GB 111GB? Sorry, but that is just way too small if you plan on using your computer for gaming. Edited March 12, 2020 by LukeFF
RedKestrel Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: What? The prices are far lower than that. Aw man I was going to start selling SSDs for $449.99 and advertise it as a steal! Then you ruined it with your facts. 3
Yours_truly_Ace Posted March 13, 2020 Author Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 12:40 PM, 352ndOscar said: Time to face facts.... Whatever computer you are trying to fly IL-2 on is no longer capable of doing so. It sure does. I run it on ultra and it's smooth as butter. Heard of upgrading CPU and GPU and RAM? Btw, I found a solution: In the copies folder while it updates it keeps both the packed and unpacked file. Just delete the packed files after they are unpacked while it installs And you will save about 30 GB. On 3/12/2020 at 4:13 AM, unlikely_spider said: You think that's too much? Red Dead Redemption 2 takes 150 GB of space. Welcome to modern gaming - you will need more than a 100 GB hard drive to take part. Buy a slower mechanical drive and keep Windows on the SSD if you can. RDR2 is a horrible ported PC port. They could have easily compressed it down to around 50 GB. The problem with il2 Sturmovik is like you have 5 games in one game. It's getting too huge. But if you read my previous post I found a way to save GB and manage the install The game just take around 30 GB now. It's just bad management of their install: they keep both their packed and unpacked files as it install. And after the install they don't delete the packed files (which you don't need). So, I was right afterall 1 1
VR-DriftaholiC Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 It's 2020. Game are going to be bigger and I would much prefer more fidelity then smaller file size. 1 1
No.332.Animal_NO Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 8:58 PM, Mitthrawnuruodo said: What? The prices are far lower than that. Brainfart when converting currencies... Sorry about that!
LuftManu Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 50 gb? that's too much. Try to clean the game files like records and such. Btw, even with 50 gb that would be considered "little" nowadays
w00dy Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 It's time for the OP to up graded his SSD, I guess he's got a 128GB drive. A drive that size is only really good for OS and some other apps. Not really suitable for games, unless you're playing roblox and minecraft. I bet there are not many places selling 128GB drives now, time to get a 500GB SSD drive.
postman475 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I just bought a 500gb Crucial SSD for 50 bucks, most games nowadays are over 50gb, and many are approaching, or over 100gb. Its time to buy more storage bud
Guster Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 51 GB is something but not a lot considering the amount of content. Compare with DCS World for example. Actually I think the Second Coming of the IL-2 Series is optimised pretty well. I wasn't ever able to run the old series that well even on new hardware before the game was well into 10 years old. BoX runs smoothly on my, by now very, very entry-level gaming laptop, and I can even have a lot more AI planes in the air than I can in RoF. I do run BoX at slightly lower gfx settings though.
JG27*PapaFly Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 If you guys don't mind having your HDDs spammed with content you don't need, fine. One related annoyance is having to wait for updates of several gb volume to install on the one squad evening we have per week, knowing that it's just spam. I'll never care about tanks, yet here they are, LOL. These updates are never announced in advance, so we can't plan our squad evening around them. Many updates lead to server downtime, ruining our session completely
DD_Arthur Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JG27_PapaFly said: One related annoyance is having to wait for updates of several gb volume to install on the one squad evening we have per week, knowing that it's just spam. I'll never care about tanks, yet here they are, LOL. These updates are never announced in advance, so we can't plan our squad evening around them. Many updates lead to server downtime, ruining our session completely You moaned about this several months ago and your squad is still not organised enough or have the initiative to check the game for updates in advance of when you fly? You know you own a game that is constantly updated but don't have the where withall to check the developer diaries that track update progress? 2
JG27*PapaFly Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 10 hours ago, DD_Arthur said: your squad is still not organised enough or have the initiative to check the game for updates in advance of when you fly? To the contrary, we are perfectly organized. We have challenging full time jobs, families, kids, houses, gardens, lots of daily real life chores, and we still manage to hold our weekly squad session. The amount of time we have available for flying IL-2 amounts to around 3 hours per week. On our squad day we return home from our daily commute just in time to fire up our computers and start flying. Unfortunately, or sessions have been ruined quite often by unannounced updates.
Enceladus828 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 @127Tom I, despite others are kinda with you on this. Like, if you’re a ETO or PTO, or WW1 person and just want that, and due to PC space don’t want Japanese or European planes or WW1, or WW2 planes then I get that as though I have twice as much space on my SSD than you, I was at one point getting low and had to delete my modded IL-2 1946. For me, I would want to delete FC aircraft and or Arras map from my computer due to PC space reasons. But yeah if you’re getting low on SSD space then just delete some other games or files that you don’t want, or just get more space for your SSD. E.g 150 GB max to 200 GB max on SSD.
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 21, 2020 1CGS Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JG27_PapaFly said: To the contrary, we are perfectly organized. We have challenging full time jobs, families, kids, houses, gardens, lots of daily real life chores, and we still manage to hold our weekly squad session. LOL, please. Everyone has busy schedules. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to check the forums and see if there's an update before you launch the game. Heck, you can have announcements about game updates sent to your phone. How more easy do you want it to be? Edited March 21, 2020 by LukeFF 1 1
LuftManu Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 13 hours ago, LukeFF said: LOL, please. Everyone has busy schedules. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to check the forums and see if there's an update before you launch the game. Heck, you can have announcements about game updates sent to your phone. How more easy do you want it to be? Don't bother Luke. Some people don't find the time because they don't want to. Curiously, the same people are having always issues with other things. 2
ZachariasX Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Novice-Flyer said: and due to PC space don’t want Japanese or European planes or WW1, or WW2 planes What do you think needs a lot of space? Planes? Or maps? (Of which you can use all in MP.)
Art-J Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 OP has a point, though. The only reason this sim can get away with shoving down customer's throat content he has zero interest in is relatively small size. Total folder size of 35,5 gigs for all offical content is small compared to 180+ gigs in DCS (if one chooses to buy and install everything there). That being said, the game is expanding and patch after patch, DLC after DLC each player is going to have more gigs of data on his drive he's never going to use. No matter how big or cheap SSDs are, it's a rather sloppy structure of this software - a legacy of the first iteration from Loft's era I presume, unlikely to be rewrtitten anytime soon, but still... 1
Bonnot Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 I also have a space problem: If I order and install TANKS , does it enter in IL directory and what size/space it adds to the 4 IL 2 , on my ssd ? I have only about 35 gigs free now, not far from the safe limit ; I regularly remove pictures and films and send them to he old HD where I also moved RoF...............
THERION Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bonnot said: I also have a space problem: If I order and install TANKS , does it enter in IL directory and what size/space it adds to the 4 IL 2 , on my ssd ? I have only about 35 gigs free now, not far from the safe limit ; I regularly remove pictures and films and send them to he old HD where I also moved RoF............... If you order a new item / module then you get the access / credentials to use and play the new item. As far as I know, your installation has already all the items and modules. With your purchase items and modules will be unlocked for you. So you shouldn't have any additional space necessary.
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 should have a 2nd seperate SSD just for games only anyways just like most been doing for 20 years with normal HDD you dont play games and the same drive windows is running. since like windows xp :D also as mentioned above. weather you only own IL2 : BOS or all the packs the game folder size is exactly the same everything is installed when you install game regardless of content owned.
Bonnot Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Thanks Therion and Schatten, I'd this good surprise when loading BoK, BoS and BoM on Bodenplatte , I thought TANKS was another stuff..... I'll now consider the Beasts with intentions ? Edited March 23, 2020 by Bonnot modify
THERION Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bonnot said: I'll now consider the Beasts with intentions You won't regret - still early access but absolutely worth it!
Bonnot Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 I saw some free stuff which look interesting but (for my taste ) it is too much EastFront-only, has no real ground opponents and is still missing the quick-battle option.... So true , it is early access and very promising and desserves to receive help, I agree and will certainly move in within weeks. Right now I'm still trying to understand the logic of this Forum, fly all the planes I got in only 2 months and try all the wonderful options i slowly discover ! Thanks for help _ I certainly soon ask for more .
Hoss Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 6:57 PM, 127Tom said: I have bought four of your modules (games). And now when I reinstalled I don't have any more space to install the game. I have an SSD with 111 GB, and after a clean windows install and that since your game now takes 51(!!!)GB on my hard drive I don't have enough space to install it. Can you please do so that I can choose which modules / games to install? Right now I just wants to play Flying Circus and Bodenplatte. buy another drive, SSD or HD and leave OS on the one you have now. Install game on new drive............. easy peasy.... My set up is a bit overkill......... I have a 300GB SSD with OS on it, a 1TB M2 SSD with games on it and a 500GB Raptor HD with all my back up stuff on it. My game drive still has 739GB left on it.... So come on Jason lets fill this bad boy up with GB goodies... And if you buy BoBP I do believe all the other content of GB is there, but you only get to use the planes available on BoBP, so it doesn't matter if you just want the Rhineland map and planes.. Hoss
56RAF_Roblex Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) OK. I am a bit puzzled now. I was about to put BoS onto my 120Gb SSD and checked the size of the game folder using properties and it told me it was taking up 250Gb so I abandoned the idea. It says the DATA folder alone is 100Gb. How am I getting those figures? ADDENDUM I have discovered that more than half of that was Screenshots and videos (I had set that folder as the destination for GeForce videos) I still have an issue with DATA taking up 86Gb but I am sure I can track that down. Edited April 3, 2020 by 56RAF_Roblex
Hoss Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Crap, what all you have crammed into yours Roblex, mine show 54.5Gb. My DCS file is at 120Gb........... Hoss
THERION Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 And don't forget the trillion of custom skins you may have - they're also nestled in the DATA folder. 1
jollyjack Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 StoreBror's remarks along these lines when i asked about souping up my 10 year old game PC. "That's trying to bring life into a Dinosaur". So i decided to build a new one. Only my wallet complained. My windows boots from a 1TB SSD, with IL2 on the same drive from a separate gaming folder. I never install other stuff than windows on my boot-C, so that reinstalling it is a matter of minutes in case Microsuck update screws up my system once again. But if you're on a laptop you will have to use an external 3.0 drive with a separate controller.
Bonnot Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 4:23 PM, -=-THERION said: You won't regret - still early access but absolutely worth it! Now with the prospect of 3 months constraint at least ( if I survive to the end... ) , I'll extend my hobby .... But the choice is difficult : from what I read and I see, TC is a superb child, but how long to grow up it will take ? My question is : what is actually available now ? the films and pictures look splendid but what is really playable or where is it possible to watch TC in action ? ( I use Mouse and most multi look closed to this or to spectate only . From what I saw the country looks empty (from any form of life) and is just annoying in a Flightsim is really missing at ground level...... so are there any places better than those in the free demo ? Thanks for help
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