Is the Yak 9 actually worth it?

[cardboard_killer]

1 hour ago, FliegerAD said:

Manchuria

 

The problem with the PTO/CBI theaters is the Japanese plane technical data apparently. Manchuria 1945 needs Oscars, Tonys, Sallys, Tojos and Franks. I'd love for it to happen, but no data means no plane set.

[CountZero]

Manchuria is to one sided, to big map necesary as front was moving fast, hard to get data for Japan airplanes.

So you have option to do easy DLC in late war poland and germany with late war vvs airplanes not in game, and few missing late war axis airplanes also not in game, map area is not to big, only if they are crazy they would go for something like Manchuria. Also Kurland and Hungary dont have neccesary axis airplanes to fill in 5x5 , most are already in game so if its anything in east front it will probably be in poland.

[Pikestance]

Map packs would be interesting; but to have the games be standalone would take some creative maneuvering;

 

Like an option to buy the game as a expansion or as a standalone. 

[FliegerAD]

21 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

The problem with the PTO/CBI theaters is the Japanese plane technical data apparently. Manchuria 1945 needs Oscars, Tonys, Sallys, Tojos and Franks. I'd love for it to happen, but no data means no plane set.

 

Yeah, I was afraid of that...

 

 

21 hours ago, CountZero said:

Also Kurland and Hungary dont have neccesary axis airplanes to fill in 5x5 , most are already in game so if its anything in east front it will probably be in poland.

 

Depends on the scope of the map, the covered timeframe and how liberal the devs are. ...aaand seeing the Ar 234 is straightfaced part the BoN module, the devs are certainly quite liberal these days.

Courland e.g. has the Fw 190 A9, the Ju 87 D5, and the nearby Bf 109 G10 (10./JG51; distance from Danzig to even the eastern part of the pocket is within this game's scope jugding by BoN's map). Courland's Go 145 or Ar 66 would be a bit unusual but important for the scenario, not to mention a good counterpart to the Po-2. Lastly, for a collector's plane, the Ju 188 or the Ju 88S could be used, being active during the evacuation of Courland (though obviously not based in it). That's a more than solid plane set.

[Bremspropeller]

Luke has already hinted that the Ju 188 and Ju 88S are too scarcely documented to make their appearance feasable.

 

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

Luke has already hinted that the Ju 188 and Ju 88S are too scarcely documented to make their appearance feasible.

 

Just for my own curiosity, I started to have a deeper look around at what info is out there for the Ju 188. It seems there is, in fact, quite a bit of good information, but it's just not readily available for download right now. Hopefully that'll change in the future.

 

EDIT: ok, so actually there is some info on Avialogs!  

 

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/274512-revell-aims-132-junkers-ju188-e2-–-aeronavále-10s10/

 

Quote

..at this point I want to offer a public and very big thank you to Matt Low who shared a full set of Ju188 Tech Manuals which means I have much more of an idea of what I want to do - I post elements of these at my risk and hope Erhard Milch doesn't sue me..

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by LukeFF

[cardboard_killer]

Back to Yaks. . . I love 'em. So forgiving, and the 1b and 7b are the equal of most mid war fighters. If only they had more firepower. Bring on the 9s!

[BlitzPig_EL]

Pretty sure the 9 has one fewer gun than the 7b.

[Alexmarine]

From what I saw the majority of bombers on the Eastern Front soldiered until 1945 with the venerable He-111 as soviet night fighters were scarce and the more modern types were required to face the better equipped western allied forces.

The problem with the Ju-188 is that it was never able to supplant the 88 (the S model was even rarer) and some units which were at some times fully equipped with them even had to return to the 88s due to unavailable 188s. For good or worse the available bombers in game still represent the german bomber force well into 1944 even (by 1945 the bomber force just simply was disbanded/converted en masse to fighters). 

Another point is that online servers don't run night time so I see a reason why LW bombers are seen as lacking right now but my suggestion would be to pilots to stick to F-8s/jets if they want to even the odds in daylight post-43 scenarios (and to server owners to separate the pool of Me-262s in a limited fighter one and a mandatory-bomb-armed-two-guns-only one maybe...). 

Having said that I admit I would like a Do-217K/M more  to differentiate from the Junkers and to represent additional KG equipped with them; also, Fritz-X anyone? ? (if possible of course...)

 

Edit: Whoops, realised this is the Yak-9 thread but wanted to respond to @Bremspropeller @LukeFF line of discussion ?

Edited February 21, 2020 by ACG_Alexmarine

[cardboard_killer]

2 hours ago, ACG_Alexmarine said:

Having said that I admit I would like a Do-217K/M more  to differentiate from the Junkers and to represent additional KG equipped with them; also, Fritz-X anyone? ? (if possible of course...)

 

I agree with this. I'm no bomber pilot, but the Do-217 calls to me for some reason. Anyway, yak yak yak. Yak yak yak yak. 9t = 37mm     mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Yak.

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, ACG_Alexmarine said:

Another point is that online servers don't run night time so I see a reason why LW bombers are seen as lacking right now but my suggestion would be to pilots to stick to F-8s/jets if they want to even the odds in daylight post-43 scenarios (and to server owners to separate the pool of Me-262s in a limited fighter one and a mandatory-bomb-armed-two-guns-only one maybe...). 

 

It would be cool, if game-mechanics allowed the whole night-fiddling aspect, including navigation and radar/ GCI.

But then again, I can't even operate the effing bomb-sight (I alwas drop in formation and sometimes my results are actually better than the lead-bomber), so fiddling with all the controls would step things up quite a bit. It certainly would remove the bomber-ops of their sitting-duck role on most servers.

 

The whole Dornier series would make for an interesting option besides the usual "do we fly Heinkel or Junkers today?" choice.

I'm very much Junkers-guy, though.

[FliegerAD]

8 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

I agree with this. I'm no bomber pilot, but the Do-217 calls to me for some reason.

 

I can tell you three reason: Fritz-X, Hs 293, and beauty.