DCS

[SidtheGit]

8 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I am in the process of learning all over again the Viggen. It is a great module

That's what I am doing. I am trying to limit myself to Vietnam era and have become quite comfortable in the Skyhawk and the Bronco. I have had the Viggen and the Mirage for a few years so now that I am restarting DCS after a long time away it seems right to have another go. Last time I flew it I had learnt the weapons quite well so I'm hoping it will all come back to me. I really like the auto throttle landing system on the Viggen, combined with the reverse thrust it makes landings quite an impressive event. Lots of rotary dials in the cockpit....different to lots of switches I suppose. One interesting thing with the weapons is that you can only carry bombs or rockets, you can't mix.

[dburne]

6 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

Just got into WWII DCS.

So far single player a P51D campaign.

Flight modelling IMHO the best of any sim out there, entering a spin really feels like the real thing, airplane feel like they have weight, and torque.

Very immersive, finally a sim that feels what is like to fly an airplane, was enjoying it so much no need to do time compression, flew  across the channel and back, radio is immersive too, in VR with the Varjo and 4090 looks amazing!

The clouds and water look realistic.

Learning curve not too bad , take off and landings are still a bit easier than real life, but not boring.

Damage Model,  good (flaps damage from flak) and not so good on other aspects, on mission #2 my right wing had 2 very big holes caused by flak, I could let go the stick and the plane was flying hands off straight and level, which seems to be those holes did not add any drag.

AI as bad as IL2? ? Need more missions to have a better idea, at least its not as easy to shoot down planes as in IL2 where you finish each mission with 5 or 7 kills no problem.

I am not bothered and just do auto start, instead of a proper starting procedure.

 

With Il2 going more and more towards being arcade, I don't see a reason to do Single player in IL2 anymore, MP is where I will continue flying it.

 

I jsut recently started flying WWII in DCS as I have always used it for the jets and for choppers. Circumstances motivated me to go ahead and set up the Spitfire and have a go with DCS, namely cause I now have Point CTRL finger trackers which I love for flipping switches and buttons and the fact there is a carrier coming along with the Corsair. I love me some carrier ops.

 

I am only doing single player, it is all I ever do in flight sims. My experience so far other than no MP mirrors @SCG_motoadve above. I am flying The Big Show as my first scripted campaign on the Channel Map and so far after 4 missions am really loving it.  It presents new challenges for me along with all cold starts and taxi to runway which I very much enjoy. Plus a lot of both ground and air activity going on just makes it seem I am just a small part in something much , much larger.

 

I will always support both sims and always have both installed ready to go. Currently DCS getting most of my attention between doing some WWII now, staying fresh with the Hornet and my continued learning in the Apache. 

[MucheokMr_Sukebe]

I joined another DCS UK based squadron this week.  Had my first flight/mission with them on Thurs, conducting SEAD in the F18.  Nice to fly again with a bunch of others.

 

Did some practice on Fri in the Apache with a real person as co-pilot/gunner.  That was ace.  We needed to develop some new comms such that he could give me the appropriate info that I’d need, ie where to go, what direction to be pointing, speed and altitude.  Was cool to be able to respond to ground fire whilst he was zapping bad guys with Hellfires.

 

[SCG_motoadve]

3 hours ago, dburne said:

Point CTRL finger trackers

How do you like it?

Easy to setup?

works ok with the Varjo?

No FPS loss?

[Guest deleted@83466]

I’m very interested in these finger trackers as well.  I’ve actually been holding out for years on VR until something like this enables one to actually use their hands in the cockpit.  Maybe it’s time.

[dburne]

4 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

How do you like it?

Easy to setup?

works ok with the Varjo?

No FPS loss?

 

Love it, yes it was easy to setup once I got my arms around how to calibrate it properly, once and done type of thing.

Yes works great with the Aero on my end, would not want to fly without it.

No fps loss that I have noticed.  If there is it is hardly noticeable for me.

The downside is the current backlog and wait list, around a year although going forward he hopes it will be improving. 

 

Note: It currently only works with DCS. Miles (Developer) along with another fellow are working on an implementation that will work with MSFS 2020, though when that gets done and popular no telling what the wait list will be. You can get your name in the wait list que but don't actually pay for it until ready to be assembled for shipment. And at that time finalize which headset it will be mounted on.

 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

I’m very interested in these finger trackers as well.  I’ve actually been holding out for years on VR until something like this enables one to actually use their hands in the cockpit.  Maybe it’s time.

I have no desire for this myself. Mouse do just fine  using vr. Vr is very Nice in modules not too complicated. Sort of thing I fly. If I ever did Apache and hornet I rather have these 2 or 3 screens and buttons you get and skip vr all together 

[DD_fruitbat]

I was interested until the one year waiting list.

 

Balls to that!

[Gambit21]

She cometh

 

 

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[Trooper117]

A Jerry Phantom!... my Spit will never catch that thing over Dover, over.

[dburne]

Any ideas why my guns/cannons stop firing in the Spit early on in the battle, like when I first got on an enemy's six and start shooting? They both just stop firing and there I am with nothing whilst on his six. Very frustrating seems to be happening more and more.  Just spent a half hour on a bomber protection patrol and soon as I start the engagement whammo it is like no ammo after a couple of rounds shot. Am I somehow jamming both guns and cannons?

 

 

51 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I was interested until the one year waiting list.

 

Balls to that!

 

Yeah that part is tough but it was so worth it to me.

Edited January 22, 2023 by dburne

[Art-J]

^ Hmmm... Google comes with nothing, but I know guns jamming in high-G turns is simulated in DCS Dora for example, so maybe it's simulated in the Spit as well? I don't recall ever experiencing jams in the Spit (and I own this module since its release), but then 95% of my DCS flying is non-combat, so I'm definitely not the right person to ask about these :D.

 

With DCS Spit's ultra-sensitive elevators it's not hard to pull much more G in combat than one thinks one does. Granted, I wouldn't expect all 6 guns to quit together, but who knows? Do some high-G gunnery testing in quick mission and see what happens.

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Art-J said:

^ Hmmm... Google comes with nothing, but I know guns jamming in high-G turns is simulated in DCS Dora for example, so maybe it's simulated in the Spit as well? I don't recall ever experiencing jams in the Spit (and I own this module since its release), but then 95% of my DCS flying is non-combat, so I'm definitely not the right person to ask about these :D.

 

With DCS Spit's ultra-sensitive elevators it's not hard to pull much more G in combat than one thinks one does. Granted, I wouldn't expect all 6 guns to quit together, but who knows? Do some high-G gunnery testing in quick mission and see what happens.

 

Yeah I don't think so, like I say it was pretty early on I had just got on his six and started firing and they stopped pretty quickly and would not fire any more. It was quite frustrating. I have triple checked to make sure no double assignments or conflicts and tested in Virpil Joystick tester and all looks well there. Very strange.

[DD_fruitbat]

This thread needs more Scooter....

 

 

[Gambit21]

It's the much storied, thought to be extinct, never before photographed... Twathawk. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Mig-19 yay or nay?

 

I’ve demoed it before, and it’s just an airplane.  Didn’t get taken away by it, so didn’t buy, but am I missing something?

 

[Gambit21]

I bought it a while back - I like early MiGs, and it will make a nice Cold War adversary to the F-4.

Haven't flown it yet. I'd read enough positive reviews though to cause me to pull the trigger at some point.

(I kept having the "one more module" problem) but have a handle on it now.

I realize that post was zero help.

[DD_fruitbat]

25 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Mig-19 yay or nay?

 

I’ve demoed it before, and it’s just an airplane.  Didn’t get taken away by it, so didn’t buy, but am I missing something?

 

 

I can't help you, cause I've been toying with the idea of getting it myself for quite a while, even more as the phantom gets closer.....

 

@DD_Arthur i seem to recall loved it.

 

Edit, just looked, its 28 pounds at the moment, very tempting indeed ?

Edited January 23, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[Gambit21]

In the end I doubt I'll leave any Vietnam aircraft on the table.

MiG 17 if it happens is a no-brainer as well. 

[Lusekofte]

I flew it for a while when it came out. I really cannot help you much because at that time there was no campaign for it. I do not know if there are any still 

So I went back to Mig 15. 
It is in my opinion a great plane , but like the hind it is very few things to do with it offline. 
I am quite disappointed by that fact when it comes to campaigns, only is high tech planes gets that love. It is a fact that shuffle me more and more over to msfs

[Dallas88B]

Anyone familiar with DCS discord?

I posted, in answer to a post from somebody having troubles with a module, a comment about how great are Volk's videos and I included a link to his Youtube channel.

The post did not post and I got a immediate message saying I got a ban. No reason other than it didn't meet their rules.

Nothing in their rules that I breached that I could see (unless they regard it as unauthorized advertising or some such)

Not very friendly. I deleted the DCS discord channel. I am sure I am no loss the community.

Edited January 23, 2023 by Dallas88B

[Gambit21]

No idea, drop NineLine a message.

 

[SCG_motoadve]

I am not being able to save VR settings:

I select VR tab, select all the settings I want, press ok.

Re start DCS.

Settings stay the same as they were before I made the changes.

Tried it many times and does not work.

Is there  a way I can do this manually? If so which is the file please. (Non Steam version)

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

I am quite disappointed by that fact when it comes to campaigns, only is high tech planes gets that love. It is a fact that shuffle me more and more over to msfs

It has to do primarily with market/sales. Hornet, Viper, Tomcat (increasingly Apache) are the best sellers, so that’s where a campaign developer will direct his effort.

 

Add to this requirement for custom comms - a Russian aircraft is a hassle that won’t pencil-out as well as a Hornet, Viper or Tomcat  campaign.

 

You’ll see an F-4 campaign out of multiple 3rd party campaign Devs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, Gambit21 said:

It has to do primarily with market/sales. Hornet, Viper, Tomcat (increasingly Apache) are the best sellers, so that’s where a campaign developer will direct his effort.

 

Add to this requirement for custom comms - a Russian aircraft is a hassle that won’t pencil-out as well as a Hornet, Viper or Tomcat  campaign.

 

You’ll see an F-4 campaign out of multiple 3rd party campaign Devs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well that is a pity, I fall out for same reason as box. Running out of aircraft’s I care for. 
well something will eventually show up. 
I know there is a Huey campaign on the making

[Robli]

4 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

Is there  a way I can do this manually?

 

Look at that SkateZilla updater. Easy to launch the game with VR ON or VR OFF selection. 

[dburne]

8 hours ago, Dallas88B said:

Anyone familiar with DCS discord?

I posted, in answer to a post from somebody having troubles with a module, a comment about how great are Volk's videos and I included a link to his Youtube channel.

The post did not post and I got a immediate message saying I got a ban. No reason other than it didn't meet their rules.

Nothing in their rules that I breached that I could see (unless they regard it as unauthorized advertising or some such)

Not very friendly. I deleted the DCS discord channel. I am sure I am no loss the community.

 

I have been using DCS Discord for a while now and not had any issues, however have never tried posting a video either so I do not know on that. Like Gambit suggested drop Nineline a note and I am sure he will let you know what happened and get you sorted.

[DBFlyguy]

Thinking about picking up the Huey since its now 50% off on steam and I can learn how to properly fly helos in DCS instead of crashing the Apache ? is the Worlds Apart 2025 campaign any good/worth getting?

Edited January 23, 2023 by DBFlyguy

[DD_Arthur]

19 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Mig-19 yay or nay?

but am I missing something?

Not really. When it was released it was second only to the Tomcat as object d’art and imo is gorgeous in VR. Also gives a good idea of what a handful early supersonic fighters must have been for their pilots.

In game, it’s kinda contemporary Northrop F5 will eat it. The beam riding missiles are good for nought but telling your opponent they’re being bounced.

Feels like it has the turning circle of the Queen Mary but if you do manage to get guns on then it’s goodbye Yankee…

 

Best to hope the up coming Phantom is an early model with no gun and the AIM  7?

[Lusekofte]

11 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

Thinking about picking up the Huey since its now 50% off on steam and I can learn how to properly fly helos in DCS instead of crashing the Apache ? is the Worlds Apart 2025 campaign any good/worth getting?

How do you crash an Apache? On purpose? 
I would recommend the Huey, it such a chopper with pedigree. I love it.  
It is not that easy to fly, but look up a couple of hoover tutorials on YouTube, you get the general idea. And you will learn it soon enough. I find choppers in general very sensitive and hardware demanding. They simply fly better with good expencive stick and rudder. A collective is very much an advantage. 

4 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

When it was released it was second only to the Tomcat as object d’art and imo is gorgeous in VR

This was also my impression. Very good looking. But I never flew it against an enemy. 
so you filled that void gracefully 

[DD_Arthur]

Oh yeah, radar ranging gunsight was apparently a real boon (they reversed engineered one of Uncle Sams)

but in the much more benign environment of the game becomes a major pain in the arse. Like the missiles, it relies on you and your opponent flying straight and level for several seconds…

[DBFlyguy]

3 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

How do you crash an Apache? On purpose? 
I would recommend the Huey, it such a chopper with pedigree. I love it.  
It is not that easy to fly, but look up a couple of hoover tutorials on YouTube, you get the general idea. And you will learn it soon enough. I find choppers in general very sensitive and hardware demanding. They simply fly better with good expencive stick and rudder. A collective is very much an advantage. 

This was also my impression. Very good looking. But I never flew it against an enemy. 
so you filled that void gracefully 

I can get the Apache up just fine, it's the holding a hover and not rolling over when I try to land that gets me ? The Apache was my first DCS helo so it's a bit of a learning curve learning to fly a helo then all the systems on top of it, figured the Huey would be a good stepping stone to get the basics down.  I'll definitely check out those tutorials!

[Gambit21]

2 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

I can get the Apache up just fine, it's the holding a hover and not rolling over when I try to land that gets me ? The Apache was my first DCS helo so it's a bit of a learning curve learning to fly a helo then all the systems on top of it, figured the Huey would be a good stepping stone to get the basics down.  I'll definitely check out those tutorials!

Dude - go fly the Huey. Learn to hover in that. THEN come back to the Apache and my guess is that it will feel like it’s hovering by itself.

 

 

 

[DD_fruitbat]

Well, I just got the MiG19, for the price a steal!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@DD_Arthur No idea when you last flew it, but at some point it had a fm update, my first impressions are its 'reasonably' agile

[Gambit21]

16 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Not really. When it was released it was second only to the Tomcat as object d’art and imo is gorgeous in VR. Also gives a good idea of what a handful early supersonic fighters must have been for their pilots.

In game, it’s kinda contemporary Northrop F5 will eat it. The beam riding missiles are good for nought but telling your opponent they’re being bounced.

Feels like it has the turning circle of the Queen Mary but if you do manage to get guns on then it’s goodbye Yankee…

 

Best to hope the up coming Phantom is an early model with no gun and the AIM  7?

It has the gun baby!!!

BRRRRRRRRT!!!!

 

 

1 minute ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Well, I just got the MiG19, for the price a steal!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@DD_Arthur No idea when you last flew it, but at some point it had a fm update, my first impressions are its 'reasonably' agile

 

It’s gorgeous. I’ll have to learn it a bit.

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Oh hell yes, on the UH-1!

 

The feeling of “I got it” with the motor skills to fly it, probably made it the most rewarding module ever in DCS for me.  (Oh, and Miniguns, which you use like you are spraying the bad guys with a hose!).  I’ve never flown it multi-crew, but someday…

[Irishratticus72]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Dude - go fly the Huey. Learn to hover in that. THEN come back to the Apache and my guess is that it will feel like it’s hovering by itself.

 

 

 

The Huey hates you more than your ex wife's red haired step child.

[DD_Arthur]

3 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

my first impressions are its 'reasonably' agile

You can take the man out of law school but you can’t take the lawyer out of the man….?

Edit:

Wonder if Busdriver could tell us anything about the ‘Farmer’?

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, Irishratticus72 said:

The Huey hates you more than your ex wife's red haired step child.

 

So when I was learning to hover (and probably right now as I've not done this in months) if you were in the stands of a football stadium, and I was going to fly in, hover and land in mid-field. You would be in clear and present danger regardless of where you were in that stadium.

 

I set up an airshow scene at Nellis with the Huey parked, and spectators all around the perimeter. Partially as a joke, but also to help me control a low hover.

I only killed a few after some practice. I can't find the screenies now.

 

 

 

 

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Wonder if Busdriver could tell us anything about the ‘Farmer’?

 

Here's how that would go with me, with him @busdriver in the back seat.

 

 

Gambit - "So...Robey. They sure did a great job with this F-4 eh? Bring back memories? So what did you know about the MiG 19?"

 

Busdriver - "Why are you driving around with the Master Caution ON? AGAIN?"