DCS

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, dburne said:

I so love blowing stuff up!! Mainly for me currently in the Hornet and Apache.

So many modules so little time...

Umm…you don’t get to plead “too little time” lol  

 

 

That said, the A-4 mod is awesome.

 

 

Even I had time to get it up and running - well worth looking at.

You’ll love it.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2023 by Gambit21

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

some other Dangerdogz are getting into DCS a bit, we've been flying the Scooter to wet there appetite, 

That’s great news.

It will be fun getting a gaggle of Corsairs up off the carrier. Or some F-4’s up maybe.

 

 

 

 

[Lusekofte]

Well downloaded the A 4

I am really rubbish at carrier landings. 
But weaponsystem took me about 3 passes to get it right. Well launched. I am rubbish at aiming too. 
Is there a trick getting it off the carrier. Every other take off I barely manage not to hit water them others I do. Seems like it simply too slow out of catapult with heavy load. I use 1/4 flaps

Edited January 16, 2023 by Lusekofte

[AndyJWest]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

Well downloaded the A 4

I am really rubbish at carrier landings. 
But weaponsystem took me about 3 passes to get it right. Well launched. I am rubbish at aiming too. 
Is there a trick getting it off the carrier. Every other take off I barely manage not to hit water them others I do. Seems like it simply too slow out of catapult with heavy load. I use 1/4 flaps

 

I'm fairly sure you are supposed to use full flaps off the carrier.

[DBFlyguy]

9 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

 

I'm fairly sure you are supposed to use full flaps off the carrier.

 

Yeah, these guys (D's instead of E's but guessing its not going to be too different) are using full flaps at the catapult:

 

It may be the camera angle, but the flaps look like they barely have any clearance from the drop tanks...  I love this footage from early era carrier operations, especially since its in HD!

 

[AndyJWest]

I've just checked in the A-4E/F NATOPS manual, it says full flaps or half flaps. From experience, the mod definitely benefits from full flaps - and a decent wind over the deck.

[DD_fruitbat]

Definitely full flaps....

 

Also make sure you really allow the engine time to fully spool up before saluting, it takes a while, and caught me out once.   

 

Also re landings, imo this time period was the pinnacle of skill for carrier pilots, no fancy aids when coming in, faster approach speeds than props, and with no where near the engine responsiveness of modern jet engines to get you out of trouble.

 

Real skill required.

 

Been messing around with the computer/radar assisted bombing mode in the Scooter tonight, once I knew what I was doing was hitting vehicles, which even in modern CCIP jets is not a given, what a machine!!!

Edited January 16, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[DBFlyguy]

[DD_fruitbat]

9 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

 

Just seen that, assuming that its dollars, works out about 46 pounds on pre order, a veritable steal ?

Edited January 16, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[DBFlyguy]

5 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Just seen that, assuming that its dollars, works out about 46 pounds on pre order, a veritable steal ?

Very true, I was gonna get it anyway but glad it's got a nice discount!

[Lusekofte]

22 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Definitely full flaps....

 

Also make sure you really allow the engine time to fully spool up before saluting, it takes a while, and caught me out once.   

 

Also re landings, imo this time period was the pinnacle of skill for carrier pilots, no fancy aids when coming in, faster approach speeds than props, and with no where near the engine responsiveness of modern jet engines to get you out of trouble.

 

Real skill required.

 

Been messing around with the computer/radar assisted bombing mode in the Scooter tonight, once I knew what I was doing was hitting vehicles, which even in modern CCIP jets is not a given, what a machine!!!

Are there training for this or do you read manual in order to understand radar assisted bombing. This plane really start to grow on me

[DD_fruitbat]

23 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Are there training for this or do you read manual in order to understand radar assisted bombing. This plane really start to grow on me

 

I watched a video on youtube, its pretty simple, turn the radar on to ground, on the weapon selector turn it all the way around to computer, then dive at what works for you, i was normally between 30 and 45 degrees, put the piper on the target, press and hold bomb release, and when you decide you don't want to get any closer gently pull up making sure no sideslip or wing drop, and the computer will drop the bombs at the correct time.

 

Not the most detailed of vid, but showed everything you need to know,

 

 

Edited January 16, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[dburne]

Wow that looks not too complex especially compared to the Hornet I have been flying. MIght have to pick this one up.

Good grief trying to find the download is a chore in itself. Grim Reaper talks so fast can not get it seems.

Ah that is ok I got enough on my plate to learn already now as it is.

 

Edit: Ok got it, much thanks DD_fruitbat!

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

I thought I jump the gun and did some air refueling. So now my selfasteem is back to rock bottom again and showed me where I belong. Taxi training. Do one have to have right and left wheelbrake in order toturn while taxiing. I killed all groundcrew

[DD_fruitbat]

1 minute ago, Lusekofte said:

I thought I jump the gun and did some air refueling. So now my selfasteem is back to rock bottom again and showed me where I belong. Taxi training. Do one have to have right and left wheelbrake in order toturn while taxiing. I killed all groundcrew

 

Yes, no nose wheel steering in the modern sense,  its a castor wheel, need to use left and right toe brakes.

[dburne]

Strange I put the files where it appeared they should go and upon launching DCS was advised it was not authorized and would be disabled.

 

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

Strange I put the files where it appeared they should go and upon launching DCS was advised it was not authorized and would be disabled.

 

did you put it on C:/users/your name/saved games/DCS

Edited January 17, 2023 by Lusekofte

[dburne]

7 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

did you put it on C:/users/your name/saved games/DCS

 

No,. that where it goes? I put it where my other aircraft were listed. Just goes in DCS directory itself?

Edit: Ok just extraced to the saved games/DCS folder and appears it is in there correctly now I think.

 

Much thanks,

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

18 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

No,. that where it goes? I put it where my other aircraft were listed. Just goes in DCS directory itself?

Edit: Ok just extraced to the saved games/DCS folder and appears it is in there correctly now I think.

 

Much thanks,

 

Darn *I* needed help on this one too. It is a real gem of a machine. My mates told me to install it, but I my stubborn ass would not listen. It is far more cool than the F 5

[sevenless]

2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Just seen that, assuming that its dollars, works out about 46 pounds on pre order, a veritable steal ?

 

Sounds good. I am sold.

[Robli]

10 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

 I love this footage from early era carrier operations, especially since its in HD!

 

Really nice video. I wonder how common it was or is today that pilots are missing the wire on carrier landings.

[DD_Friar]

@dburne Salute - I am another "DangerDog" like @DD_fruitbat. Now you have experienced what a good helpful bunch we are first hand, why not stop by the DangerDogz forum www.dangerdogz.com and say "Hi" (tell them I sent you  ) if you are looking to play with a squad who are there to have fun.

We fly DCS on Monday and Thursdays UK time around 20:00 for 2 to 3 hours. We have guys flying all sorts in DCS and also have a strong Canadian / USA group if the UK time does not suit.

We also play GBS on Sundays and Tuesdays.

Sessions also happen on the fly on a Friday, depending on who is around and what they want to do.

We also like Tank Crew in the Dogz if that interests you as well.

 

DD_Friar

Edited January 17, 2023 by DD_Friar

[Trooper117]

12 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

 

Yeah, these guys (D's instead of E's but guessing its not going to be too different) are using full flaps at the catapult:

 

It may be the camera angle, but the flaps look like they barely have any clearance from the drop tanks...  I love this footage from early era carrier operations, especially since its in HD!

 

 

That was a great bit of footage!

[DBFlyguy]

4 hours ago, Robli said:

 

Really nice video. I wonder how common it was or is today that pilots are missing the wire on carrier landings.

It was a lot more common then than it is today.  Today, they have so much more technology to assist them including the new precision landing mode:

 

 

 

First subject covered in this video:

 

[Archie]

Watching that early carrier footage with the A4's and Crusaders (want...) makes me think just how dangerous a flight deck was / probably still is!

[dburne]

51 minutes ago, Archie said:

Watching that early carrier footage with the A4's and Crusaders (want...) makes me think just how dangerous a flight deck was / probably still is!

 

Can't wait to start doing it - in the Corsair baby!

[Lusekofte]

Well takeoff is ok , landing not, radarbombing checked out rockets too. Taxiing is about as difficult as airrefuling. 
but otherwise a module I will learn. It is a real gem. And quality as or bought module. 
My kind of plane

[Gambit21]

Practically lands itself (on land) I haven’t trapped it.

 

 

I should give that a go.

[dburne]

Well I have finally started my first official campaign with the Spit - The Big Show.

Just flew the first mission, and oh my it was so gorgeous in my Aero - and surprisingly performance was more than adequate. 

 

First mission had 24 of us taking off from Biggin Hill flying across the Channel to take on 20+ enemy aircraft. It was quite the furball and was exhilerating. I got my one kill and had expended all my ammo getting that guy, so it was time to head back to base.

Made it back safe and sound. Mission included cold start and taxi to runway. It was a real treat. Going to break for lunch and maybe fly one more sortie this afternoon.

 

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

It was a lot more common then than it is today.  Today, they have so much more technology to assist them including the new precision landing mode:

 

 

 

First subject covered in this video:

 

I remember watching an interview with a Navy F-18 pilot years ago, and with regard to carrier landings he goes…

 

”It’s not that hard…shhhh…don’t tell the Air Force guys” 

 

But then, this Hornet days, not Tomcat days and before. The stories of early Tomcat traps are harrowing.

 

TOMCAT!!

 

 

 

 

[dburne]

Goodness The Big Show Campain - reckon I know where they got the name from now. Flown 2 missions now, and both between my flight and the enemies had 20 plus on each side. First mission I successfully made it back to base for a win, second mission not so much - had to bail out over the channel on return trip due to engine damage and ended up in a draw. If each mission gets a little tougher I am going to be in trouble. Got to improve my gunnery skills now.

 

I will probably try the second mission again at least couple more times to see if I can get a win out of it.

Edited January 19, 2023 by dburne

[DD_Fenrir]

23 minutes ago, dburne said:

Goodness The Big Show Campain - reckon I know where they got the name from now. Flown 2 missions now, and both between my flight and the enemies had 20 plus on each side.

 

 

 

I know what you mean - watching nearly 50 fighters converge at 30 odd thousand feet and the tangle of contrails that resulted as the dogfights broke out has to be one of the most memorable moments of my 25 year flight sim journey; it was awe inspiring.

 

As for your performance, you're doing ok. Surviving the missions in Reflected's WW2 campaign should be the first priority; expecting to come back an Ace after every sortie is the myth of arcade games and you should look at getting even a single victory as going above and beyond! 2-3 kills you are doing exceptionally well.

[SCG_motoadve]

57 minutes ago, dburne said:

Goodness The Big Show Campain - reckon I know where they got the name from now. Flown 2 missions now, and both between my flight and the enemies had 20 plus on each side. First mission I successfully made it back to base for a win, second mission not so much - had to bail out over the channel on return trip due to engine damage and ended up in a draw. If each mission gets a little tougher I am going to be in trouble. Got to improve my gunnery skills now.

 

I will probably try the second mission again at least couple more times to see if I can get a win out of it.

I am planning to start flying DCS WWII, a bit tired of how easy IL2 has become, how is your VR performance on the campaign?

i have almost the same setup as you.

[dburne]

6 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

I am planning to start flying DCS WWII, a bit tired of how easy IL2 has become, how is your VR performance on the campaign?

i have almost the same setup as you.

 

Suprisingly pretty good, I use vsync locked at 45 fps in my Aero and so far no problem maintaining the 45 fps. It can occasionally get a little stuttery but for the most part it is smooth.

[SCG_motoadve]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

 

Suprisingly pretty good, I use vsync locked at 45 fps in my Aero and so far no problem maintaining the 45 fps. It can occasionally get a little stuttery but for the most part it is smooth.

Nice, what map do I need?

Normandy 1944 or Channel map?

I bought Normandy 1944 a while ago, hardly used it because the performance was horrible in VR, back then I had the Reverb and a 2080 Ti.

 

I also see a channel map 2.0 should be released soon.

[dburne]

4 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

Nice, what map do I need?

Normandy 1944 or Channel map?

I bought Normandy 1944 a while ago, hardly used it because the performance was horrible in VR, back then I had the Reverb and a 2080 Ti.

 

I also see a channel map 2.0 should be released soon.

 

No that is Normandy 2.0 that will be released soon.

The Big Show campaign I just started has both a Normandy and a Channel Map version. Since I knew performance not so good on original Normandy I elected to fly the Channel Map version.

 

More on Normandy 2:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/586a6c51e05f3e73556af3f5682afdcb/

Edited January 19, 2023 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

What I struggle with in DCS is their reluctance of making general purpose aircraft for ww2. Until then I stay away from it. 
It will never be a full blown ww2 sim without them. Only fastest and best

[SCG_motoadve]

3 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

What I struggle with in DCS is their reluctance of making general purpose aircraft for ww2. Until then I stay away from it. 
It will never be a full blown ww2 sim without them. Only fastest and best

I am going to give it a try at WWII DCS single player, IL2 is becoming boring and leaning towards arcade more and more.

[Lusekofte]

20 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

I am going to give it a try at WWII DCS single player, IL2 is becoming boring and leaning towards arcade more and more.

I lost all belief I ever find my perfect ww2 sim. 
True this is the way things has evolved, since the base players in GB are acting like fps players and this is what they want. 
So I fly GB coop with mates. DCS is more my interest of a single aircraft. So far they given me choppers I like ( about 90% ) 

and a few fixed wing. ( about 10% )

so total (about 15%)

MSFS has given me ( about 3% ) 

counted in what they have to offer and what I am interested in

GB is (about 15% )

if you take away what I do not like about these sims. They match in same score. 
there are upsides and down sides. I like clod best of all. In total if I use all sims and give them a collective score I still will not have a simulator in my mind scoring more than 50 %
One simply choose one sim for that time and use it for what one like to do. It is the closest you ever get to enjoy it. Right now Dbourne are doing it in big show. 
yesterday I did it in the Huey campaign lost Paradise 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Lusekofte

[SCG_motoadve]

30 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

since the base players in GB are acting like fps players

Its not the majority, just a very loud little clan that back each other so they are heard, if you see , its always the same 8 or 10 people who in reality are a vast minority, but very loud and rude, unfortunately developers seem to be listening to them, and IL2 is in the worst state it has ever been.