DCS

[DD_fruitbat]

I went to Pleiku and An Khe, when I was backpacking in Vietnam, just because of that book......

[DD_fruitbat]

Some Tomcat fun.

 

This is really just a bit of footage i shot from a mission i made, playing around with triggers, populating the carrier deck, but also shows off some nice 2.7 effects and just looks very pretty in 4k!

 

 

[Gambit21]

30 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Some Tomcat fun.

 

This is really just a bit of footage i shot from a mission i made, playing around with triggers, populating the carrier deck, 

 

 

What sorts of triggers exactly?

 

[DD_fruitbat]

5 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

What sorts of triggers exactly?

 

 

I was just playing with the new quadratic shaped trigger, to spawn in enemy fighters as i crossed through it, nothing particularly special. 

 

But its cool that you can now create a long thin rectangle as long as you want on a map, to trigger an event, as opposed to jusy circular trigger areas as before. 

[DBFlyguy]

 

[Sharpe43]

check this out:

 

A retired F14 rio (and the author of a book called Punk's war) explains a few things: 

 

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

I was just playing with the new quadratic shaped trigger, to spawn in enemy fighters as i crossed through it, nothing particularly special. 

 

But its cool that you can now create a long thin rectangle as long as you want on a map, to trigger an event, as opposed to jusy circular trigger areas as before. 

 

Yep - I’d been wanting rectangular triggers in BoX forever...no matter now.

 

I can’t seem to get mouse/pan to work with external views - I see you have it working just fine.

[DD_fruitbat]

Regarding mouse/pan, I'll have a look what the controls are called later.

[DBFlyguy]

Looks like the Hornet is gonna get a lot more love in the next update!

 

 

 

 

Next patch date is still TBA but they keep that hype train well oiled and running at full steam, kudos to them!

[AndyJWest]

So, a SLAM-ER, is something you, er, slam into things? Finally a military acronym that makes sense... ?

 

Seriously though, I watched the first video earlier, and thought 'that's nice'. Until I thought about it a bit more. What you are really doing, with something this complex and autonomous, is using the aircraft as a data-input device. Which you might as well do on the ground, in a less hostile environment. No doubt it is authentic, and the way warfare is going, but aren't we supposed to be simulating aviation, not simulating typing numbers into a very expensive Excel emulator? This may be taking the fun of it all away. 

 

I should probably give up on the Hornet, and go back to flying the MSFS Bleriot IX instead. Real aircraft don't need data-entry pads. Or instrument panels. Or firewalls. Or a rate of climb...

[Gambit21]

2 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

...but aren't we supposed to be simulating aviation, not simulating typing numbers into a very expensive Excel emulator? This may be taking the fun of it all away. 

 

 

This is why I switched my project from the Hornet to the Tomcat. Who has time honestly. I certainly can’t do it AND learn a new editor, and Moose Framework/scripting, and, and, and...

 

I’d love to already know it but I can’t afford the time/resources to get there.

Tomcat it is.

[SYN_Vander]

The Hornet at least is a good platform to do data entry in  compared to others... But I feel the same. It's difficult enough to remember start-up procedures, but then to memorize all the steps needed to setup a weapon, designate a target and that using buttons on the HOTAS that have different functions depending on how long you press the button or how often and depending on which ' sensor' mode you are in (this is in the AV8B Harrier btw)....is not fun.

That's why I can't wait for the Sea Harrier with simple radar and sidewinders & gun only .

 

Those 80's and 90's jets are the worst since they have lots of weapons loadouts, advanced sensors etc, but horrible ergonomics for the pilot. Unfortunately, they appeal to me the most since that was what I saw flying around in the skies when I was a kid!

[SYN_Vander]

13 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

...I certainly can’t do it AND learn a new editor, and Moose Framework/scripting, and, and, and...

 

 

Try it, it's actually not that hard at all. Scripting can come later; you only need that for more complicated stuff and you can just copy/paste most of the times

[dburne]

15 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

So, a SLAM-ER, is something you, er, slam into things? Finally a military acronym that makes sense... ?

 

Seriously though, I watched the first video earlier, and thought 'that's nice'. Until I thought about it a bit more. What you are really doing, with something this complex and autonomous, is using the aircraft as a data-input device. Which you might as well do on the ground, in a less hostile environment. No doubt it is authentic, and the way warfare is going, but aren't we supposed to be simulating aviation, not simulating typing numbers into a very expensive Excel emulator? This may be taking the fun of it all away. 

 

I should probably give up on the Hornet, and go back to flying the MSFS Bleriot IX instead. Real aircraft don't need data-entry pads. Or instrument panels. Or firewalls. Or a rate of climb...

 

Learning all the weapons and setup of each is a daunting process especially for me.

I utilize the Kneeboard and have pages for each weapon, so I can reference them during the mission when I am setting up the weapon I will be using.

Helps in my case at least. The pages I create out of Chuck's Guide for that weapon. Also have a page for the start up of the Hornet, I pretty much know it now but like to be able to reference it to make sure I do not miss something and find out later - oops.

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Try it, it's actually not that hard at all. Scripting can come later; you only need that for more complicated stuff and you can just copy/paste most of the times

 

Oh I’m starting down the road

I’m 3 evenings in with the editor.

 

I just meant that something has to give - so it was the Hornet.

 

 

[DBFlyguy]

A few pics from the ED Newsletter

 

 

Their P-47 is looking more and more tempting ?

 

 

 

And the Marianas map is looking great! I'm actually surprised its gonna be a free map

 

 

[Lusekofte]

On 5/5/2021 at 11:00 PM, unlikely_spider said:

Huey just because it's so goddamn iconic.

Well, to me the MI 8 is just as iconic, it has served UN well for many years, always there to help in catastrophes around the wold. and it got the best Campaigns.

Helo is no stress, unless you attempt inverted flights in them

[Gambit21]

48 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Well, to me the MI 8 is just as iconic, it has served UN well for many years

 

I-con

ˈīˌkän/

 

Noun

 

1. A person or thing regarded as a representative symbol or worthy of veneration.

 

2. As relating to Helocopters.

Any helicopter that meets ALL of the following conditions.  A. Makes a pronounced, thunderous, well defined WHOP WHOP” sound. 

B. Can be flown low over Southeast Asia. C. Fortunate Son and/or Jumping Jack Flash can be heard playing in the background while the above 2 conditions exist.

 

?

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Gambit21

[unlikely_spider]

@LuseKofteYes, Gambit is correct as demonstrated by the official definition of "icon".

But I did shortly learn the basic procedures for the Mi-8 as well. I got all the helo's a while back in some package deal that contained all four helicopters, so I was like why not?

But the Mi-8 requires three people to operate in real life? And they want me to perform all those tasks on my own like a chump? ?

Though I do like that Doppler radar that it comes with. I like learning esoteric navigation tools like that. Much more fun to me than following a line on a MFD or arrow on a HUD.

[AndyJWest]

All this talk of icons (originally a religious concept, of course) inspired me to Google 'patron saint of helicopters'. Apparently' it's Joseph of Cupertino, who achieved sainthood by levitating at Mass, though only after having to face the Inquisition, who surmised that witchcraft might have been involved.

 

As applied to helicopters, I find this suggestion somewhat more plausible than all the fancy 'aerodynamics' they try to fool you with these days...

[DD_fruitbat]

Planes fly.

 

Helicopters beat gravity into submission. 

 

Regarding the Hornet/Tomcat learning curve  brief discussion on the previous page, I don't subscribe fully to the Tomcat being much simpler than the Hornet per see.

 

While the Hornet is without doubt much more complicated to deploy weapons,  particularly the knowledge base required for all types, it is by design very essy to fly.

 

The Tomcat, while not having those learning steps, is actually much much harder to fly, and will kill you if you in heartbeat,  no computer to stop you doing something stupid. It requires real finesse to get the most out of it,  which I don't really have yet!

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by DD_fruitbat

[Gambit21]

4 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Planes fly.

 

Helicopters beat gravity into submission. 

 

lol - so true.

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

The Tomcat, while not having those learning steps, is actually much much harder to fly, and will kill you if you in heartbeat,  no computer to stop you doing something stupid. It requires real finesse to get the most out of it,  which I don't really have yet!

 

 

I’ve managed to stick every landing (training/practice mission included) without using any of the aids provided. This is not a good thing, it’s a bad thing since I can’t hope to trap like this. I’m not trying to ignore the AoA indicator or the E-bracket, I just can’t track all of that AND fly the jet yet. So every time I nearly fall out of the sky during the break because I can’t see my airspeed for crap, compensate by going into burner, then it all goes out the window and I land like I’m flying a Mustang or something (seat of my pants and velocity vector) All sorts of stick input that shouldn’t be necessary. Flaps up, mil power, circle, repeat.

 

Part of the problem is that practice mission has me on final way too close to the runway. Next time I need to extend a few miles so that I have time to think.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Gambit21

[DD_fruitbat]

Its actually ironic,  that the Hornet is beautifully stable on approach,  but the engines are so slow to spool up, whereas the Tomcats engines have amazing response,  but is a handful to control!

 

Between them could have an amazing carrier plane!

 

I wasn't just thinking about landings though,  you can rip the wings off the Tomcat with ease, no computer to stop you, at certain speed regimes you have to roll with the rudder and not ailerons,  it keeps you on your toes....

Edited May 7, 2021 by DD_fruitbat

[Bremspropeller]

On 5/7/2021 at 9:27 PM, Gambit21 said:

Part of the problem is that practice mission has me on final way too close to the runway. Next time I need to extend a few miles so that I have time to think.

 

That's true - all the practice missions are at least 10 miles too close to the boat. You'd have to be an octopus to set up the airplane for the trap in time.

[DD_Fenrir]

14 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

That's true - all the practice missions are at least 10 miles too close to the boat. You'd have to be an octopus to set up the airplane for the trap in time.

 

Lol! Thank god it's not just me... was starting to think I was getting old and infirm - on top of dumb!

[Monostripezebra]

Another best DCS vid is out:

 

[Bremspropeller]

Another night out with the DDs. This time, FT joined Fenrir, Fruitbat and me for some reforging.

 

After scoring a Flanker, I ate a missile, too. It shut down my hydraulic system #2 and most of the electics. It also froze my wings at a rather uncomfortable setting of 50° sweep and no flaps/ slats. Luckily the airplane can be flown in that configuration okay...

 

Needless to say, every sailor was up on Vulture's Row and watched my landing. I floated a bit at the ramp, so I cut the power (yeah...for...simulating that barricade) and lady luck had me catch the #3 wire.

 

Tom and Kev....TOMKEV! ..still up high on patrol.

 

Returning to the boat.

 

Bimbling around on the DD server - trolling for some MiGs...

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by Bremspropeller

[DBFlyguy]

 

LOVING this channel!  Carroll is so chill and knowledgeable.  He mentions DCS in this one so I figured I'd drop it here. 

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

Another night out with the DDs. This time, FT joined Fenrir, Fruitbat and me for some reforging.

 

After scoring a Flanker, I ate a missile, too. It shut down my hydraulic system #2 and most of the electics. It also froze my wings at a rather uncomfortable setting of 50° sweep and no flaps/ slats. Luckily the airplane can be flown in that configuration okay...

 

Needless to say, every sailor was up on Vulture's Row and watched my landing. I floated a bit at the ramp, so I cut the power (yeah...for...simulating that barricade) and lady luck had me catch the #3 wire.

 

Tom and Kev....TOMKEV! ..still up high on patrol.

 

Returning to the boat.

 

Bimbling around on the DD server - trolling for some MiGs...

 

 

Good stuff Thomas.

 

On hour 4 or so in the editor...already have my first LUA script going to delete static aircraft on the deck (some trickery necessary to get the player to spawn where I want)

The editor is a bit mind-blowing - some great triggers etc that I will make good use of...including but not limited to polygonal trigger zones (instead of being stuck with circular trigger zones)...but much, much more. Already building more than flying, but I WILL be flying from now on.

[DBFlyguy]

9 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Good stuff Thomas.

 

On hour 4 or so in the editor...already have my first LUA script going to delete static aircraft on the deck (some trickery necessary to get the player to spawn where I want)

The editor is a bit mind-blowing - some great triggers etc that I will make good use of...including but not limited to polygonal trigger zones (instead of being stuck with circular trigger zones)...but much, much more. Already building more than flying, but I WILL be flying from now on.

 

Its drawn you in LOL guessing we may see a payware Gambit21 DCS campaign someday ?

[Bremspropeller]

'Fortunate Son' background-music intensifies...

[Bremspropeller]

Finally a boat that is appealing to stamp-collectors!

 

Ladies and Gentlemen - I present you the HMAS Melbourne:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...if landing the A-4 on a Supercarrier isn't self-loathing fun enough for you...

[AndyJWest]

@Bremspropeller is it fully functional with the A-4? Catapult and traps?

[Bremspropeller]

Jessir!

 

It even has a collision model. Ask me how I know...

 

Spoiler

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/sort-is-date_desc/user-is-Bungo/apply/?PER_PAGE=100

 

[DD_fruitbat]

More pics from yesterdays fun,

 

Looking across to see Fenrirs and Brems in a two ship,

 

 

After our call to action, descending to assigned targets, 

 

 

Reforming with Fenrir after the first engagement,

 

 

Another shot of Brem's Tomcat after an impressive put down,

 

 

Back on  patrol,

 

 

Then some shots of us messing around on the Dangerdogz server after the mission,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And here's a little vid of a few bits of footage I recorded cobbled together from the evening. Particularly like the part at @5:00 min mark, where Brem's goes into afterburner.

 

Will be in 4k when the youtube hamster spins fast enough,

 

 

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

You almost ate that guy's chute ?

 

On a brighter note - our launch looked almost professional

Edited May 11, 2021 by Bremspropeller

[DD_fruitbat]

Two Toms Taking off in Two Tomcats....

 

Try saying that after a few beers 5 times, fast??

 

And yes, got closer than I intended to that chute, lol!!!

Edited May 11, 2021 by DD_fruitbat

[Enigma89]

Tried a new challenge, was a very hard journey but was pretty fun to fly the Mig-21 on Growling Sidewinder

 

 

[Gambit21]

OK - I have a flight of A-6's and a helo taking off ahead of the player flight, just after the Airboss finishes his little speech.

Well... the A-6's are currently placeholder F-18A's...but the WILL be A-6's later.

 

Low level training hop over Turkey...tensions are high, head on a swivel.

 

"...Altimeter is 29.42 - welcome to the Med, start em up!"