LLv34_Flanker Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 S! Using the DCS Updater as well. Was easy to setup it. Can do cleanup of repair from it etc., nice piece of software.
Bremspropeller Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, DD_Arthur said: Is it me or is the F16 a little.........slow? In terms of what? Speed? No, that thing ticks off the speed-tape in the HUD like a mad racing-hound on meth. If the control-response seems a bit slow, this is due to the transfer from the pressure-sensitive sidestick (which doesn't move much at all) to the joystick. I put in a -20 curve for roll and -10 or -15 for pitch and the airplane responds much quicker now - kind of like the Hornet. The Viper throttle is very responsive and the throttle-position during approach is arkwardly low (might be correct - don't know). The Hornet flies much more oddly in my book - especially the throttle-response seems way too slow to me. Especially since the F404s were praised as very quick responding and an idle-to-military spool-time of 3-4 seconds max. 12 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: Its you I've had mach 2 out of it..... Also, The video proves again, why their channel is useless. Instead of taking the ideas they have (which aren't half bad) seriously and providing info, they just half-arse their videos and tutorials in one take, cutting their value in half. At best. People aren't watching tutorials for entertainment. Had they accepted the obvious and leave the subsonic jets out, they wouldn't have the M2k crash into the MiG. Also, why can't they re-take it with the Hornet-dude not forgetting about his landing-gear? Edited April 20, 2020 by Bremspropeller
AtomicP Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said: Anyone having some massive fps drops every 10-20 seconds in the Normandy map? (havent tested caucasus). I didnt have any issues a couple of months ago, then I came back and I'm getting consistent 130+fps, and every 10-20 seconds it drops to around 25fps for half a second. I don't have fps nearly that high but I did a bit of messing about in the Normandy map yesterday (first time with this one, usually play in the Persian Gulf or Caucasus) and I was getting a bit of laggy behaviour. It took ages to get the menus up as though the key inputs weren't working properly or lagging behind a good bit. Aircraft few fine although as nice as all the DCS stuff is, it all feels a bit lifeless without the backdrop of a war like BoX does.
LLv34_Flanker Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 S! I have no problems with DCS, very smooth experience. Reported a few issues and seems they got fixed along the way.
CanadaOne Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: The video proves again, why their channel is useless. Instead of taking the ideas they have (which aren't half bad) seriously and providing info, they just half-arse their videos and tutorials in one take, cutting their value in half. At best. People aren't watching tutorials for entertainment. Had they accepted the obvious and leave the subsonic jets out, they wouldn't have the M2k crash into the MiG. Also, why can't they re-take it with the Hornet-dude not forgetting about his landing-gear? I had a good laugh at that video. But then I have a very lowbrow sense of humour at times. But I have to say I really like their channel. It's my go-to spot for tutorials and it's been a ton of help.
Jaws2002 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: The video proves again, why their channel is useless. Instead of taking the ideas they have (which aren't half bad) seriously and providing info, they just half-arse their videos and tutorials in one take, cutting their value in half. At best. People aren't watching tutorials for entertainment. Had they accepted the obvious and leave the subsonic jets out, they wouldn't have the M2k crash into the MiG. Also, why can't they re-take it with the Hornet-dude not forgetting about his landing-gear? This is just drag race for fun. They do that often. It's not testing. People bring whatever planes they want to this events.
fiddlinjim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 I downloaded several free planes and Nevada Site but did not find the F14 Tomcat available. Did anyone else locate it?
AndyJWest Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, fiddlinjim said: I downloaded several free planes and Nevada Site but did not find the F14 Tomcat available. Did anyone else locate it? The Tomcat & Viggen aren't included in the 'free month' stuff.
Tektolnes Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: The Hornet flies much more oddly in my book - especially the throttle-response seems way too slow to me. Especially since the F404s were praised as very quick responding and an idle-to-military spool-time of 3-4 seconds max. There's a large portion of the throttle travel that seems to do almost nothing and then it all suddenly seems to come on. I saw some people on the ED forums posting the curves they put on the throttle axis to make it easier to fine tune the throttle position and get more of a linear response along the throttle range. 2
DD_fruitbat Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Tektolnes said: There's a large portion of the throttle travel that seems to do almost nothing and then it all suddenly seems to come on. I saw some people on the ED forums posting the curves they put on the throttle axis to make it easier to fine tune the throttle position and get more of a linear response along the throttle range. The thing i read (and have done) when i was researching air to air refueling was not a curve, but to change the axis to 'slider' under axis tuning. This made a huge difference to me, I have since done it to all my jets, has made landing the Tomcat and Hornet easier as well.
AndyJWest Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said: The thing i read (and have done) when i was researching air to air refueling was not a curve, but to change the axis to 'slider' under axis tuning. This made a huge difference to me, I have since done it to all my jets, has made landing the Tomcat and Hornet easier as well. I should probably give that a try, since my first attempt at hooking the Hornet was an exercise in chase-the-aoa-indicator, followed by a spectacular impact with the back of the ship as the velocity vector decided that it wasn't interested in pointing upwards, no matter how hard I pulled on the stick. I'm not saying that finer throttle control would have avoided the situation entirely, but it might have given me a fighting chance to at least realise it wasn't going to work while I still had the opportunity to do something about it. ?
DD_fruitbat Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: I should probably give that a try, since my first attempt at hooking the Hornet was an exercise in chase-the-aoa-indicator, followed by a spectacular impact with the back of the ship as the velocity vector decided that it wasn't interested in pointing upwards, no matter how hard I pulled on the stick. I'm not saying that finer throttle control would have avoided the situation entirely, but it might have given me a fighting chance to at least realise it wasn't going to work while I still had the opportunity to do something about it. ? Hornet has horrible throttle lag time in DCS, what i wrote above helps, but it still crap
Bremspropeller Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Don't chase the indexer! Make sure you trim her to the center-tick on the E-bracket and try to leave the stick alone in regards of pitch. As soon as you're fumbling with pitch, you're either piling on a large amount of drag, or you're taking it away. The result is the same: the aircraft wants to sink or climb and the whole stable approach goes out the window. I made a "bad weather" mission for the Hornet (well, all carrier aircraft really), so you could train ICLS-approaches right down to minimums (about 3/4 to 1NM). That helps a little in training how to manipulate the throttles. There are also tankers luring above the clouds so you won't have to take the silk-elevator if you can't trap during the first 500 tries. It's also gonna get dark some time, so have some fun... Carrier Bad WX Procedures.zip
DD_fruitbat Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: Don't chase the indexer! Make sure you trim her to the center-tick on the E-bracket and try to leave the stick alone in regards of pitch. As soon as you're fumbling with pitch, you're either piling on a large amount of drag, or you're taking it away. The result is the same: the aircraft wants to sink or climb and the whole stable approach goes out the window. I made a "bad weather" mission for the Hornet (well, all carrier aircraft really), so you could train ICLS-approaches right down to minimums (about 3/4 to 1NM). That helps a little in training how to manipulate the throttles. There are also tankers luring above the clouds so you won't have to take the silk-elevator if you can't trap during the first 500 tries. It's also gonna get dark some time, so have some fun... Carrier Bad WX Procedures.zip 19.16 kB · 0 downloads I'll have a bash at that mission for fun I actually hate the indexer on all planes, find the E bracket on the F16 and F18 more useful, but only at the end of approach for touch down . Its the flight path vector i use the most, in ok weather. Got to love some of the recently updated sounds (i'm not flying, why it looks so good ?) 1
DD_Arthur Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Nice flying. Pity the camera man is pissed?. BtwF16=nirvana??
Bremspropeller Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said: I'll have a bash at that mission for fun The Final Bearing says 262°, but 258° should be closer for the messed up flight-deck of the Stennis. The tankers are quite slow, so you'll have a bit more drag on the airplane tanking. Makes things easier. Also, for some effed-up reason, the boat won't turn it's landing-deck lighting on anymore, as it used to. So you'll now be a bit challenged figuring out what your lineup is, while neglecting the ball... I'll probably re-make that mission, when SC is released. Keep in mind that it's a multiplayer mission. You might also start it out of the Missioneditor. 27 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said: I actually hate the indexer on all planes, find the E bracket on the F16 and F18 more useful, but only at the end of approach for touch down . Its the flight path vector i use the most, in ok weather. The E-bracket is just a fancy indexer for the Nintendo-generation with a HUD. The funny thing is that the E-bracket in the Hornet and Viper work reversed: In the Viper top of the bracket is fast and bottom is slow, while in the Hornet, top of the bracket is slow ond bottom is fast. Makes for interetsing on-speed fling, when having flown one aircraft for a longer time and the converting to the other one... Flying the Viper "heads down" is also fun. I'll try and build a similar "bad wx" mission for some raw-data ILS-fun.
AndyJWest Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said: Don't chase the indexer! Make sure you trim her to the center-tick on the E-bracket and try to leave the stick alone in regards of pitch. As soon as you're fumbling with pitch, you're either piling on a large amount of drag, or you're taking it away. The result is the same: the aircraft wants to sink or climb and the whole stable approach goes out the window. I made a "bad weather" mission for the Hornet (well, all carrier aircraft really), so you could train ICLS-approaches right down to minimums (about 3/4 to 1NM). That helps a little in training how to manipulate the throttles. There are also tankers luring above the clouds so you won't have to take the silk-elevator if you can't trap during the first 500 tries. It's also gonna get dark some time, so have some fun... Carrier Bad WX Procedures.zip 19.16 kB · 1 download Thanks, Bremspropeller, I'll give that a try sometime, though I should probably learn how to do it in good weather first. As for using tankers, that's another thing I'll need to work on. I've a vague recollection of trying it in one of the Flaming Cliffs aircraft, though I don't think I ever succeeded. And thanks everyone for the comments re the indexer. Seems almost more trouble than it's worth. Flying was simpler in the good old days when the seat of your pants and an occasional glance to see whether the cows were getting bigger was all you needed to aviate. Maybe I should stick to making a pigs ear of Sopwith Camel landings instead. ?
DD_fruitbat Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said: Nice flying. Pity the camera man is pissed?. BtwF16=nirvana?? I was!!!?
Lusekofte Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 2:22 AM, AndyJWest said: on. I've a vague recollection of trying it in one of the Flaming Cliffs aircraft, though I don't think I ever succeeded. Personally I had to stop training refueling with the Harrier. I got so frustrated that I almost broke off my stick and steaming so much that my vr got vapor so I could not see anything. I find a better way to get a heart attack 2
CanadaOne Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 9:25 AM, DD_fruitbat said: Heathen, the F-16 is an amazing plane, i love its simplicity and capabilities, will fill all my needs when it gets Mavericks (soon) and HARMS (not so soon). Between that and the Tomcat (more and more) it fills all my jet needs. Every time i jump into the Hornet i jump straight back out into the Viper. Everything in the Hornet is twice as complicated as in the Viper for reasons only know to the idiots designing it. Only thing going for it is its loadouts. I've been trying out the F-16 since you took me to task and I've been having a lot of fun with it. It could do with some fancier A2G weapons though.
DD_fruitbat Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: I've been trying out the F-16 since you took me to task and I've been having a lot of fun with it. It could do with some fancier A2G weapons though. Try CBU's, they feel like cheating! (27 kills in one bomb run my record!!!). Them along with laser guided bombs, and tossing dumb bombs over mountains on CCRP mode, keeps me busy until mavericks (soon) and HARMS (not soon) arrive! Edited April 22, 2020 by DD_fruitbat 1
AndyJWest Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Misadventures of a rookie Hornet pilot.. After spending over 20 minutes on repeated attempts to put the beast onto the carrier deck, each ending in a go around, or a bolter from missing the wires, I finally managed to get lined up properly: Bump! A bit steep, a bit short, but I'm on the deck... Must have skipped over the first wire. Caught the second. Yay! ? Safe! Or so I thought. Unhooked myself, folded the wings, and taxied clear... Off the side of the deck! Doh!? 1 5 1
CanadaOne Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: Try CBU's, they feel like cheating! (27 kills in one bomb run my record!!!). Them along with laser guided bombs, and tossing dumb bombs over mountains on CCRP mode, keeps me busy until mavericks (soon) and HARMS (not soon) arrive! Yeah, I like the F-16, and the systems do seem simpler, but I just did a whack o' nighttime carrier action in the F-18 and the Harrier and it's just too much fun. When the SC comes out the F-18 is going to be irresistible. 1
LLv34_Flanker Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) S! @AndyJWest True pilots catch the 3rd wire Hornet is an easy plane to work with, very capable. I wonder if it ever will get JDAM, JSOW and JASSM.. Fired up DCS last night. Can only admire how butter smooth it runs on my rig. Just did some sightseeing on Normandy map with the Spitfire and Dora. Super carrier is pre-ordered, wishing for the Persian Gulf map, but now a bit tight due circumstances. Also Viper and Tomcat on to buy list, not forgetting P47D..list goes on Edited April 23, 2020 by LLv34_Flanker
screamingdemon Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) I am enjoying the realistic seating position in all cockpits, especially the Spit and Mustang. Checking 6 position is such a pleasure when your eyes "wrap" around the corner as they should (using Track IR). Also scaling of rear part of cockpit works well eg small head cushion of spit, F86 etc. Adds greatly to the level of immersion. The visible long nose of the Spit and Mustang in the default forward view is also very nice touch!!! Edited April 23, 2020 by screamingdemon
Bremspropeller Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, LLv34_Flanker said: I wonder if it ever will get JDAM, JSOW and JASSM.. The Hornet already has JDAMs and JSOWs - not the full palette, though. I might pull the Trigger on the Jeff...
CanadaOne Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, LLv34_Flanker said: S! @AndyJWest True pilots catch the 3rd wire Hornet is an easy plane to work with, very capable. I wonder if it ever will get JDAM, JSOW and JASSM.. Fired up DCS last night. Can only admire how butter smooth it runs on my rig. Just did some sightseeing on Normandy map with the Spitfire and Dora. Super carrier is pre-ordered, wishing for the Persian Gulf map, but now a bit tight due circumstances. Also Viper and Tomcat on to buy list, not forgetting P47D..list goes on Two thumbs up for the Persian Gulf Map. Though I know how you feel about the finances right now. I'm lucky I still have a few bucks in my Steam wallet left over from back in the day, when people could sit next to each other. The PG map runs smoother than Normandy on my rig and looks fantastic. And it's huge. And some quality big ass concrete airfields. Looks great with the new night lighting too. 1
LLv34_Flanker Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 S! @CanadaOne Yeah, the price for PG map is very affordable now, but every cent counts ? But one day I will get it along with the planes and other stuff. Perfect would be Tomcat, F-5E and Mig-21bis. Mig-29 is already there if want more modern encounters. 1
CanadaOne Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Well I'm glad you get to enjoy everything for a month. Unless you are on Steam like me. I might try again to install a standalone DCS, the server kept crashing it seems and killing my download.
LLv34_Flanker Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) S! I have used standalone since day one, like with IL-2. Only Cliffs Of Dover Blitz is on Steam. Edited April 23, 2020 by LLv34_Flanker
Lusekofte Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) You see that is why I do not fly modern jets in combat. I haven’t the faintest idea what this means 5 hours ago, LLv34_Flanker said: JDAM, JSOW and JASSM.. My brain shut down just looking at that In fact I feel a instant need for a nap now Edited April 23, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte 1
AndyJWest Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Yeah, there should probably be a handy acronym guide provided in the cockpit somewhere. Or a big ❓ button.
CanadaOne Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: You see that is why I do not fly modern jets in combat. I haven’t the faintest idea what this means My brain shut down just looking at that In fact I feel a instant need for a nap now I can handle the acronyms, it's the procedures that kill me. But I was pulling off nighttime VSTOL carrier landings in my Harrier last night after doing an LGB run. That was cool! That's about as funky as my flightsimming gets
RedKestrel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: You see that is why I do not fly modern jets in combat. I haven’t the faintest idea what this means My brain shut down just looking at that In fact I feel a instant need for a nap now I know two of the three...JDAM = Joint Direct Attack Munition, basically a general purpose bomb with a GPS-guided seeker head kit. JSOW is Joint Stand Off Weapon, I don't remember how that one works.
ZachariasX Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, RedKestrel said: I don't remember how that one works. Simple: You pay a contractor a lot of money and you get a device that nobody understands and that doesn't work if the Amazon cloud is down.
RedKestrel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ZachariasX said: Simple: You pay a contractor a lot of money and you get a device that nobody understands and that doesn't work if the Amazon cloud is down. The American Dream: Defense Procurement Edition 2
ZachariasX Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RedKestrel said: The American Dream: Defense Procurement Edition You can break F-16's that way, so they will be sitting on the ramp along with the F-35's when you need them the most. When Sputnik says the F-35 are broke that way, I mean, that's just the enemy talking. But all the evil guys need to do is to time their fiendish assault with Active Directory being down due to Citrix getting further patches. I'm getting less and less concerned about a prospective WW3. Edited April 23, 2020 by ZachariasX
RedKestrel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, ZachariasX said: You can break F-16's that way, so they will be sitting on the ramp along with the F-35's when you need them the most. When Sputnik says the F-35 are broke that way, I mean, that's just the enemy talking. But all the evil guys need to do is to time their fiendish assault with Active Directory being down due to Citrix getting further patches. I'm getting less and less concerned about a prospective WW3. Throwing a war and nobody shows up because the server went down... Maybe we can just conduct warfare via zoom meetings, much lower casualties and the generals can just insult each other until they get bored or their connection drops.
DD_Arthur Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, RedKestrel said: I don't remember how that one works. "Whats G twelve Tommy?" "Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth" "Well shoot, lets have G twelve up" 1
AndyJWest Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Misadventures of a rookie Hornet pilot part 2: Checklists exist for a reason. ? Surprisingly, not only did I survive the catapult launch, after some frantic stick-waggling, but I found that the wings would actually unfold (somehow I doubt they would in real life). Trim seemed rather off though, so I decided that a nice long runway was going to be the safest option, and scuttled off landwards. Put it down with no further damage. I think the captain wants a word with me... Edited April 23, 2020 by AndyJWest
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