Honeycomb Yoke

[Lusekofte]

been following the development on this. Do not care much for the design on it. Meant for fsx, x plane small planes. But what caught my interest was the development team ambitions. It got great reviews. Looks like they attempt to get as high quality as possible without it being too expensive  

while I really like a yoko yoke, I cant really go that high in price since I most of the time are going to use my maxflight stick. No one seems to know how it works outside the X plane, fsx, p3d franchise I am hoping at least the buttons In Yoke works in GB like a Saitek yoke does. 
I will give a review when it arrives and I flown some havoc campaigns

Edited January 8, 2020 by No.322_LuseKofte

[BOO]

I think Pattle from the Team Fusion Team over in Clod is using one successfully in that game. 

[Sokol1]

There's no reason for this yoke don't work in any game that support joystick if are see under Windows Game Controllers.

 

But the guy there have problem with buttons in Bo'X' may due conflict with one of their other controllers.

He don't say if test only the yoke in Bo'X', first thing to do in case of issues with one peripheral. 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/57253-new-honeycomb-yoke-for-p38-no-buttons-working-in-il-2/

 

Edited January 9, 2020 by Sokol1

[Oboe]

I have this yoke, and pair it with a single Saitek/Logitech throttle quadrant when I fly the P-38, A-20, or Luftwaffe bombers.   All buttons & switches work well in IL-2 except for the engine selector switch on the far right side of the yoke housing.   It's OK though I don't need that switch in IL-2.

 

Best thing about the yoke is that it rotates 90 degrees in each direction, close to full travel in actual P-38 Lightning.  Cheaper yokes, like Saitek or CH Products, only rotate 45 degrees in each direction - not realistic for the P-38.   (I fly VR so its important to me to have controllers feel and perform like what I'm seeing in my headset.

 

Only complaint I have is it seem the push/pull travel resistance is higher than I expect.  Not a problem for the bombers but it does slow my maneuvers in P-38 somewhat.   Still, well worth the price ($250) for the extra immersion is provides with flying P-38 in VR. 

 

Also, the C-clamps provided to anchor the mounting base plate to the desk were *just* a bit too small for the thickness of my desk surface, therefore I couldn't use them.  The mounting plate comes with a super-sticky pad which holds fairly well, but since I switch back and forth between joystick and yoke, I chose to drill mounting holes into the surface of my desk and use screws to mount the base plate.  Easier to remove the screws than to keep peeling the base plate off the desk surface when I want to switch back to joystick.

[Lusekofte]

I was planning fir using this mostly for bombers and JU 52. I got it and tested it yesterday. 
I found it to be very accurate, you do not get better smoothness among 1000$ range. 
I did react on the lightness in aileron movements compared to elevator. 
Elevator seems to me to be quite similar to real cessna resistance while in normal flight. The ailerons should have had more resistance in my opinion. I do not fly for easier I want realistic feel to it. But its smooth accurate controls made me forgive that. I am now rebuilding the pit so I can implement the yoke into it. 

[Lusekofte]

Well I am almost finnish with my helicopter/ fighter/ transporter/ bomberpit. Testing this evening

[Lusekofte]

integrated the yoke into the pit so it fit vr position of yoke. Need to lower my stick 2 cm or half a inch then I would say I am set. Pretty satisfied. The start engine key works to start up to 4 engines. A real smooth yoke. I was saving for a yoko yoke, but that honeycomb is a treat and a keeper

[SCG_motoadve]

On 1/13/2020 at 8:07 AM, oboe said:

I have this yoke, and pair it with a single Saitek/Logitech throttle quadrant when I fly the P-38, A-20, or Luftwaffe bombers.   All buttons & switches work well in IL-2 except for the engine selector switch on the far right side of the yoke housing.   It's OK though I don't need that switch in IL-2.

 

Best thing about the yoke is that it rotates 90 degrees in each direction, close to full travel in actual P-38 Lightning.  Cheaper yokes, like Saitek or CH Products, only rotate 45 degrees in each direction - not realistic for the P-38.   (I fly VR so its important to me to have controllers feel and perform like what I'm seeing in my headset.

 

Only complaint I have is it seem the push/pull travel resistance is higher than I expect.  Not a problem for the bombers but it does slow my maneuvers in P-38 somewhat.   Still, well worth the price ($250) for the extra immersion is provides with flying P-38 in VR. 

 

Also, the C-clamps provided to anchor the mounting base plate to the desk were *just* a bit too small for the thickness of my desk surface, therefore I couldn't use them.  The mounting plate comes with a super-sticky pad which holds fairly well, but since I switch back and forth between joystick and yoke, I chose to drill mounting holes into the surface of my desk and use screws to mount the base plate.  Easier to remove the screws than to keep peeling the base plate off the desk surface when I want to switch back to joystick.

When you fly the P 38 , or bombers and use the yoke , you need to uninstall the joystick from IL2 and then install the Yoke in IL2, correct?

I have tried to have both a joystick and a Yoke connected in IL2, so just use whichever I want on the fly, depending on the plane, but   it did not worked, I could only have or the joystick connected or the yoke, but not both.

[Lusekofte]

Yes you have to change pitch and ailerons but that take two seconds

[SCG_motoadve]

Just now, No.322_LuseKofte said:

Yes you have to change pitch and ailerons but that take two seconds

The problem for me will be to re program all the joystick buttons ever time I re install it.

[Lusekofte]

45 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

The problem for me will be to re program all the joystick buttons ever time I re install it.

No I use two different colums for buttons. I do not have to do anything other than change pitch and roll 

[WIS-Redcoat]

On 1/17/2020 at 7:00 AM, No.322_LuseKofte said:

Well I am almost finnish with my helicopter/ fighter/ transporter/ bomberpit. Testing this evening

  What throttle is this?

[Lusekofte]

That is a authentic cessna bobcat throttle from 1942 

[cardboard_killer]

On 1/17/2020 at 5:25 AM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

But its smooth accurate controls made me forgive that

 

Long term follow up on the yoke? I ran into some spare cash and was thinking of buying one.

[Lusekofte]

I am very satisfyed. All buttons work in this game. Even the key to start engines. I can start 3 engines with the key. 
Very accurate except the millimeter of deadzone in the middle. Ailerons is a bit light compared to others but for me it does not matter. It replicate JU 52 , HE 111 perfectly. P 38 almost but it got a little more than 180 degrees (my guess 200) but I find it perfect in special for the p 38 very smooth and easy to finetune aim

its trim buttons are divided in two buttons as it is in real planes. I discovered that you can assign them seperatly so those give you four handy buttons. It got one triggerbutton. But due to the trimmer buttons the other buttons except hatswitch is a little awkward placed. But that is also something I find easy to adapt

It is the yoke that give you most for the money. It ooze quality. Very well made and smooth

Edited April 24, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[cardboard_killer]

On 4/24/2020 at 4:28 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I am very satisfyed.

 

Thanks for the feedback. I'm wondering if you use the yoke for a/c that did not have a yoke, and, if so, do you enjoy it? I'd certainly like the yoke for flying the P-38, but if I was switching back and forth two or three times a day, it will become more burdensome than worthwhile, especially as I don't fly the P-38/-39 that often. ks

[Lusekofte]

I use it only for yoke planes. Switches are set and I only change the two axes. 
takes two seconds. But I sm a nutter. I never was able to fully enjoy flying bombrrs with a stick. I got a floormounted non centering stick. So I do not have to move any hardware. The honeycomb unlike the cheaper saitek and ch yoke can be used in fighters because its sensitivity is just on a whole other level. The trimming of the plane so easily available. I got a good stick, but my yoke give me a tad more accuracy. 

Edited April 28, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[kestrel79]

Have you guys seen the Honeycomb Throttle at all recently? Looks like it could be a nice replacement for the older CH Throttle Quad I'm still rocking. I wish they would add some WW2 style balls to the axis so they don't look so much like a 747 or GA aircraft throttle and more WW2.

[cardboard_killer]

On 4/28/2020 at 7:22 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I use it only for yoke planes.

 

I broke down and ordered one tonight. P-38 is what puts it over the top. I may try using it with all a/c, but will be happy if it works only on the -38/-39

[cardboard_killer]

As God is my witness, I thought Turkeys could fly. Seriously, I would have sworn that the P-39 used a yoke set up and not a stick. Well, I set up the yoke to work with the -39 before I realized that.

 

The honeycomb is much higher quality than my last (used) yoke, a CH. I've set up the P-38 and -39 and will fly those awhile to see if I feel like it can be used everywhere. I'm thinking not, mainly because I'm so used to the stick that I don't want to abandon all the extra buttons on it and all the core functions of those buttons. Still, if you're in the market for a sub-$700 yoke, I think it's a winner. Currently, the A-20 and P-38 are the only two a/c I fly that used yokes. I know the Ju-88, Ju-52 and He-111 also use yokes--anyone know of other BoX planes that use yokes?

[cardboard_killer]

On 5/9/2020 at 7:48 PM, cardboard_killer said:

he honeycomb is much higher quality than my last (used) yoke, a CH.

 

Putting up a follow up. I love the yoke, but I just don't fly yoke planes enough to keep it. It has a big footprint as you'd expect. I feel bad about returning it, but I just cannot justify it. Still a recommend if you fly the P-38/Ju88 etc..