Weird graphics glitch after migrating to new SSD

[Elem]

Calling all Techy experts. 

The background story:-

My SSD C/drive being a Samsung 960 250GB was full, so I needed to replace it. It had just my OS (Win 10) and IL-2 on it. So I bought a 1TB Samsung 970 SSD to replace it. I gave this all to a PC specialist to install and asked him to migrate everything from the old (small) to the new (large) SSD. This he did with software that he purchased for the job. I have it back now and everything is working as it was except the most important thing (IL-2)! It loads up ok but it looks almost as if it has 3 copies, one on top of the other, see the screenshot. I have only one other game installed (Shogun 2 on Steam) and that is working fine, so it doesn't appear to be a graphics card issue. Of course, IL-2 is totally unplayable like this and I'm a little miffed to say the least.

 

Would really appreciate some thoughts on what might be causing this please.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Elem

[THERION]

Hi,

 

do you fly in VR? Checking your system infos in your signature, I don't think so.

 

So open your Startup.cfg file in your main game directory and check, if the option OR etc. are enabled (1). And don't bother about those red arrows.

It's from another post.

 

 

Hope this helps...

[Elem]

Thanks for the fast response Therion. Unfortunately, the answer is no...

 

[DD_FT-]

Not too sure, but these stand out to me:

 

      full_height = 768
      full_width = 1280
      fullscreen = 0

 

Is there a specific reason you are not using the FullScreen mode?

[Elem]

13 hours ago, DD_FT- said:

Not too sure, but these stand out to me:

 

      full_height = 768
      full_width = 1280
      fullscreen = 0

 

Is there a specific reason you are not using the FullScreen mode?

So what should that be? Same as @Therion 1080 x 1920. My monitor is 40" 4K

[THERION]

4 minutes ago, Elem said:

So what should that be? Same as @Therion 1080 x 1920. My monitor is 40" 4K

 

 

At the bottom of your configuration file there are two entries which depict your native resolution:

 

win_height = 2160

win_width = 3840

 

So, now, just copy and paste those values accordingly like this:

 

full_height = 2160

full_width = 3840

 

 

[Elem]

I thought that should be the case. I have changed it but it hasn't fixed the problem ?

 

I'm not using Full Screen after trying both and finding better performance without.

 

I really don't think it's a resolution issue. All my settings are exactly what they were before migrating to the new drive.

Edited November 23, 2019 by Elem

[[DBS]El_Marta]

May be a wrong refresh rate in the display settings?

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Try Backup/Delete Startup.Cfg and let Game Create a New one ..

 

[Elem]

13 minutes ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

Try Backup/Delete Startup.Cfg and let Game Create a New one ..

 

Thanks. Tried that, didn't work. ?

[THERION]

53 minutes ago, Elem said:

Thanks. Tried that, didn't work. ?

 

Other idea:

 

Check your screen resolution under the Windows Control Panel - make sure, you have your native resolution selected correctly and make

sure to use the "recommended" setting from Windows. I remember I had a similar issue, when I chose an interlaced resolution by accident,

looks something like this: 1920 x 1080i - but you should actually have p and not an i.

[Elem]

2 hours ago, -=-THERION said:

 

Other idea:

 

Check your screen resolution under the Windows Control Panel - make sure, you have your native resolution selected correctly and make

sure to use the "recommended" setting from Windows. I remember I had a similar issue, when I chose an interlaced resolution by accident,

looks something like this: 1920 x 1080i - but you should actually have p and not an i.

You mean here...

I don't see any option for P or I though? 

[THERION]

Well, I know that I can modify or change my resolution also in the NVidia Contral Panel. If I'm correct, you are using an ATI graphic card, aren't you?

I'm sure there should be a similar control panel for ATI cards?

 

Btw. have you other games etc. on your system? Are they working fine?

[Elem]

21 hours ago, -=-THERION said:

Well, I know that I can modify or change my resolution also in the NVidia Contral Panel. If I'm correct, you are using an ATI graphic card, aren't you?

I'm sure there should be a similar control panel for ATI cards?

 

Btw. have you other games etc. on your system? Are they working fine?

As I said in my OP, I have one other game on my system which is working perfectly, in fact everything apart from IL-2 is working perfectly. I have the AMD Radeon Settings software, but I'm 99% sure it's not a resolution issue.

[THERION]

1 hour ago, Elem said:

As I said in my OP, I have one other game on my system which is working perfectly, in fact everything apart from IL-2 is working perfectly. I have the AMD Radeon Settings software, but I'm 99% sure it's not a resolution issue.

 

OK, sorry, I missed this - but you mentioned Steam, so my next question would be: Are you running IL2 also from Steam? Are there any settings concerning VR activated by accident

in your Steam settings to launch IL2? Just some thoughts...

[Elem]

18 minutes ago, -=-THERION said:

 

OK, sorry, I missed this - but you mentioned Steam, so my next question would be: Are you running IL2 also from Steam? Are there any settings concerning VR activated by accident

in your Steam settings to launch IL2? Just some thoughts...

No, IL-2 is not on Steam. Directly on C drive as it got migrated over form the smaller SSD.

[THERION]

So you start IL2 using the launcher, right? Can you post a screenshot of you setting of the launcher and also please your startup.cfg file? Thanks.

[Elem]

1 hour ago, -=-THERION said:

So you start IL2 using the launcher, right? Can you post a screenshot of you setting of the launcher and also please your startup.cfg file? Thanks.

Yes, sure I use the launcher. Settings are as they have always been...

 

I hope the Startup.cfg file is legible. Thanks for your persistence with this problem Therion.

[THERION]

OK - now, please, disable the mods in your launcher settings without starting the game. Then check you startup.cfg and see that the key "modes" under "system" is set to 0.

This way we are sure, your startup.cfg has written down the information we changed in the launcher.

 

Now, instead of starting the game through the launcher, start the game directly from the IL-2.exe which you will find in your game subdirectory "bin/game".

 

Try this and let's pray.

[Elem]

23 hours ago, -=-THERION said:

OK - now, please, disable the mods in your launcher settings without starting the game. Then check you startup.cfg and see that the key "modes" under "system" is set to 0.

Hi Therion. You may have hit on something. I did the above and found modes = 1. But then I started the game with IL-2.exe and there was still no change. So what does all that mean?

[THERION]

4 hours ago, Elem said:

Hi Therion. You may have hit on something. I did the above and found modes = 1. But then I started the game with IL-2.exe and there was still no change. So what does all that mean?

 

So, you changed "Enable modes" to 0, but it still was 1 in your startup.cfg file? Bingo! This means, your startup.cfg file is "Read-only". So open your game folder and right click

on the startup.cfg. Check your properties and you will see - its attributes are set to "read-only". Just uncheck this attribute and click on "apply".

 

Now, either you change the key "modes" to 0 and save this or, if you're not very sure about messing around manually, just start the launcher and change it there. Uncheck the

modes and start your game. I bet this should work now.

 

Cheerio

[THERION]

On 11/25/2019 at 6:44 PM, Elem said:

Hi Therion. You may have hit on something. I did the above and found modes = 1. But then I started the game with IL-2.exe and there was still no change. So what does all that mean?

 

So, did you have any chance to check what I wrote in my last post?

[Elem]

Hi @-=-THERION, I have just done what you've said. The startup.cfg WAS "Read-only", so unchecked it and all the files within became read/write. I then checked to see that the launcher and the startup.cfg both said modes = 0. While I was doing that, the update 4.002 was installing and I could see changes being made to the files. So when it finished, clicked PLAY and...

 

it has NOT cured the problem!

 

I found this post on the forum from someone who had done a similar thing and it appears that I might have to do a full re-install. What do you think?

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Elem

[THERION]

26 minutes ago, Elem said:

Hi @-=-THERION, I have just done what you've said. The startup.cfg WAS "Read-only", so unchecked it and all the files within became read/write. I then checked to see that the launcher and the startup.cfg both said modes = 0. While I was doing that, the update 4.002 was installing and I could see changes being made to the files. So when it finished, clicked PLAY and...

 

it has NOT cured the problem!

 

I found this post on the forum from someone who had done a similar thing and it appears that I might have to do a full re-install. What do you think?

 

 

 

 

Well, I'm really sorry to read this, mate. Doing a full reinstall might be the solution. So, if you decide to do this, then I strongly recommend not

to install the game in the default directory, because sometimes Windows has some weird behavior concerning file protection and access rights.

 

I would suggest to install the whole new game into a custom folder like f.ex. "C:\Games\Great_Battles" or something like this. And btw. before

you delete your current installation, save your folder called "Input", so at least you will have all your key bindings and you don't need to do all

new again.

 

Cheers

[Elem]

Thanks @-=-THERION for all your help on this. I think I'll leave a full reinstall till the weekend but your suggestions are noted. I have a full back up of IL-2 on an external hard drive to get the "input" folder from. I notice there is an "uninstall" option within the game files, would this be the best method of removing IL-2?

[THERION]

2 hours ago, Elem said:

Thanks @-=-THERION for all your help on this. I think I'll leave a full reinstall till the weekend but your suggestions are noted. I have a full back up of IL-2 on an external hard drive to get the "input" folder from. I notice there is an "uninstall" option within the game files, would this be the best method of removing IL-2?

 

Hi,

 

if there is an uninstall option, then it is always advisable to use this uninstall routine, because you are sure the program will be installed correctly with all its

registry entries, although some uninstall routines are quite lousy and don't do their job correctly. But anyway, use this to uninstall the game.

 

And make sure you still have the copy on your external HD - it's always better to check before having a bad revelation...

 

Cheers and good luck

[ohnoapirate]

I bought the game on Steam earlier today and I've been having the exact same glitch. I'm running the game with an AMD Vega 64 GPU at 1920x1080. The glitch also affects the appearance of the Steam overlay. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the game, and ensured that the resolution settings are what they ought to be.
However, I found that turning off Anti-Aliasing entirely gets rid of the glitch. Not much of a solution, but I'm curious if you have the same result. I've searched and it doesn't seem to be a known issue.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

thats ok as the ingame Anti A Sucks and better off using external methods or Supersampling Resolution like running 4K or 2K on 1k(1080P screen) 
none to little need for Anti Aliasing.

If thats happening then tho make sure in ATI catalyst or control center whatever its called these days.
that all anti aliasing options set to game controlled / application controlled. 

[Elem]

10 hours ago, ohnoapirate said:

I bought the game on Steam earlier today and I've been having the exact same glitch. I'm running the game with an AMD Vega 64 GPU at 1920x1080. The glitch also affects the appearance of the Steam overlay. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the game, and ensured that the resolution settings are what they ought to be.
However, I found that turning off Anti-Aliasing entirely gets rid of the glitch. Not much of a solution, but I'm curious if you have the same result. I've searched and it doesn't seem to be a known issue.

Oh wow! I wish I'd seen this 2 hours ago! I bit the bullet and did a full reinstall only to find it didn't cure the problem! I was panicking then. So having seen your post and @=TBAS=Sschatten14

I checked the Radeon Settings Controls and set AA to application controlled and...BINGO! I have IL-2 back. I cannot believe it was something so simple. So a huge thank you @ohnoapirate @=TBAS=Sschatten14 and @-=-THERION for your help with this problem.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

No worries yeah default nvidia and ati settings has caused many gaming problems over years.

IMHO im not sure about ATI/AMD cards, but for Nvidia you kinda have no choice and must setup a game specific Profile for il2 with correct settings.
There is NO correct default setting for Nvidia for proper performance and stability of IL2 on a fresh install of drivers.

Dlad you got it working.
Happy flying.

[THERION]

2 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

No worries yeah default nvidia and ati settings has caused many gaming problems over years.

IMHO im not sure about ATI/AMD cards, but for Nvidia you kinda have no choice and must setup a game specific Profile for il2 with correct settings.
There is NO correct default setting for Nvidia for proper performance and stability of IL2 on a fresh install of drivers.

Dlad you got it working.
Happy flying.

 OK, thanks for the info. But seeing that you are using an NVidia card - can you show us your NCP settings and game settings too?

Cheers

[Elem]

1 hour ago, -=-THERION said:

But seeing that you are using an NVidia card

But I'm not using an NVidia card? It's AMD ASUS RoG Strix RX Vega 56.

Although IL-2 is now running, I have a problem with the game folder. You said earlier that it should have the Read-Only attributes unchecked. Well I keep doing that and it just keeps resetting to Read-Only as soon as I close it. The game will not save anything that I do in it? Why is that?

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Elem i think Therion Was Replying to me Re Nvidia Card. 

 

18 hours ago, -=-THERION said:

 OK, thanks for the info. But seeing that you are using an NVidia card - can you show us your NCP settings and game settings too?

Cheers

No Problems. 
1080P Settings. 

Edited November 30, 2019 by =TBAS=Sschatten14