Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[Lusekofte]

I like ti see these STOL videos. It is not the «worst» I have seen. 
If we put morale and judgement aside and look at these maneuvers. What is actually possible , maybe rudders is not too twitchy 

things I looked at as weird mabe is not. 
That said I always remember the saying

”there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots” In Norway we got a lot of casualities in ultralights. Maybe these planes are better for low flying. 
but these maneuvers sure taking its toll on the planes. At least the multiple random landings. One might think twice bying a used one

8 hours ago, Stoopy said:

 

That's pretty cool.  I was just flying around the Columbia River Gorge not long ago.  Also fascinating that someone was able to stay interested in Canada for 3 hours (j/k!!!) ?

 

If you see a backyard airstrip up there. Give me a howl. 
I am looking for a offgrid virtual bushplane base

[DD_Arthur]

[CanadaOne]

10 hours ago, Stoopy said:

 

That's pretty cool.  I was just flying around the Columbia River Gorge not long ago.  Also fascinating that someone was able to stay interested in Canada for 3 hours (j/k!!!) ?

 

 

I understand. 90 minutes was the max a while back, but now that it's legal, we're just all about thinking about stuff all the time.

 

Like ice cream. We're really interested in ice cream. And pizza. 

[Feathered_IV]

Nice one Arthur.  Is that an early Spit, going by the spinner shape?

[AndyJWest]

@ LuseKofte

 

You can do some pretty ridiculous things in the MSFS Zlin Shock Ultra - like flying in flat circles with zero bank at 30 kt. Looking at the video you linked makes me think this may not be quite as unrealistic as it seems. These ultralights seem to tolerate bootfuls of yaw, in circumstances where it doesn't seem wise. It comes down to knowing the limits I suppose. The limit generally being when one wing decides that providing lift isn't fun any more, which happens with the MSFS Zlin too, eventually. A mistake best made sitting in front of a monitor...

[DD_Arthur]

38 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

  Is that an early Spit, going by the spinner shape?

 

An all-new Mk1a for MSFS 2020 from Aeroplane Heaven.

[CanadaOne]

3 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

An all-new Mk1a for MSFS 2020 from Aeroplane Heaven.

 

Hard to resist buying some stuff now, but in a few months we're lily to see some really good planes come out.

 

The MB-339 was a good purchase though. 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said:

Is this a engine you got close enough to touch? ??

16 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

An all-new Mk1a for MSFS 2020 from Aeroplane Heaven.

Aha

53 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

You can do some pretty ridiculous things in the MSFS Zlin Shock Ultra - like flying in flat circles with zero bank at 30 kt. Looking at the video you linked makes me think this may not be quite as unrealistic as it seems

That was my thinking too. Those planes can obviously do stuff I believed to be wrong. I will hold my tung in the future about FM looking what this ultralight did in low level. I never thought these where made for maneuvers like this

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[AndyJWest]

There are clearly things that need fixing with the Shock Ultra FM. For a start, there seems to be no adverse yaw from aileron input, in common with most (all?) MSFS flight models. It's general ability to imitate a helicopter seems authentic enough though. There's a YouTube video showing tests Zlin made with wool tufts attached to the wing, showing how with full flap and slat, it can hold an AoA that would make an F-16 nervous. I'll see it I can find it later, but right now I'm messing around in the MSFS one, pretending to be a helicopter, and causing virtual flight instructors to choke on their bacon butties, as they watch me perform uncoordinated turns over the ramp - I've decided that taxiing to the runway is a waste of potential fun-time in this...  ?

[Lusekofte]

I got s stick and a yoke. I use yoke in this sim. Both in GB cod. 
I think I am a bit restricted and have a tendency to proper flying with yoke. 
I will switch to stick next time, because you obviously have more fun than me. 
I soared the winds on ridges in special Gibraltar. When you stall it resembles what I read about that, pretty good. In my point of view better than DCS yak 52. 
we will always have atmospheric oddities 

[AndyJWest]

Yeah, when performing the sort of tricks I've been getting up to, the stick is hard over one way, and the rudder the other - you need all the freedom of movement you can get. And a hand on the throttle too, as its all happening at the sort of AoA where flying slower needs more power. Which you may need in a hurry, if you don't want to come down with a bump. Which reminds me of something else that needs fixing. When you come down hard, it goes 'clunk' like all the other MSFS aircraft: It should probably go 'boing' instead.

 

The video I was referring to earlier. Big movable slats and slotted flaps doing their thing:

 

[ZachariasX]

 

On my way to Islamabad from Skardu airport across the Himalayas. Effin' monsoon weather. But I'm starting to like the Baron. You can make it go up to 18k ft. PAX surely turned blue by now.

Edited October 24, 2020 by ZachariasX

[AndyJWest]

1 hour ago, ZachariasX said:

Effin' monsoon weather.

 

Yeah, I'm beginning to see the downside of MSFS 'live' weather myself, as I struggle around west Africa in my round-the-world trip. I've run into the tail-end of the rainy season, and if I don't make significant progress, I'll still be there when the next one starts. From what I can figure out, 'rainy season' is when it rains all the time, whereas 'dry season' is when it only rains most of the time.

 

I suspect that people heavily into live-weather GA aviation may end up flying south for winter. Or at least, avoiding the delights of Narsarsuaq in November and Juneau in January.  Live weather GA circumnavigation in particular is really only practical if you plan ahead.

 

Meanwhile, From an entirely non-live-weather sunny Henri Coanda airport, Romania, some Zlin fun:

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by AndyJWest

[ZachariasX]

Yes, absolutely. Even MvR found out that weather is foe #1 to all airmen.

 

What I do appreciate here with live weather is that it clearly shows how obscenely dangerous it is to just go and fly places without looking up the weather bulletins. Like in the "good old times" where you had very vague info on how it's gonna look on your destination. "Just go, you'll see then." Well, not always did they live to tell how it looked.

 

Personally, I like to use it as a challenge. You look at (sometimes well known) weather that you would never fly in in RL, but in FS2020, you can give it a try. Boring hauls can get interesting like that. But that surely is a different sort of gaming that "experiencing your planet", where permissive weather surely is more gratifying.

[Lusekofte]

I tried to nail the Lukla landing. And decided to practice with live weather. 
it is not like the challange. My plane dropped like a stone just before the airstrip. I like the different weather and atmosphere. This sim is the first showing me why accidents happen when trying to fly normal

[ZachariasX]

27 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

My plane dropped like a stone just before the airstrip.

Ah, that was you? I plunged in right after you... Lukla was terrible this afternoon.

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

Ah, that was you? I plunged in right after you... Lukla was terrible this afternoon.

I had control and suddenly i just dropped (poof)

[ZachariasX]

1 hour ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I had control and suddenly i just dropped (poof)

Famous last words.

 

I didn‘t make it past „Ssshi-...“

[Feathered_IV]

These constant thunderstorms during live weather are getting annoying.  I hope there is a fix for it soon. 

[Lusekofte]

59 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

These constant thunderstorms during live weather are getting annoying.  I hope there is a fix for it soon. 

Fly in the northern hemisphere. Only thing killing you there is flying and texting at the same time

[Stoopy]

This Turbo Bonanza mod flies so sweet it inspired me to do my first repaint in a long long time.  Not perfect but I'm happy with it.  Also made a walnut burl panel for it. Probably will upload it to AvSim library.

 

 

 

[ZachariasX]

7 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

These constant thunderstorms during live weather are getting annoying.  I hope there is a fix for it soon. 

That is where REX WeatherForce shows its use. It is no more in game „live“ weather, but with REX the weather changes and you don‘t have this static misery. I wouldn‘t say that REX makes more plausible weather. Sometimes it does, but especially in less densy populated areas METAR coverage is not that great.

 

So far I found it has use in case those static thunderstorms block your POI. You have an alternative, but it is still kind of „live“.

[DD_Arthur]

9 hours ago, Stoopy said:

This Turbo Bonanza mod flies so sweet it inspired me to do my first repaint in a long long time.  Not perfect but I'm happy with it.  Also made a walnut burl panel for it. Probably will upload it to AvSim library.

 

Very nice.

 

Now I've found my community folder - "whats it doing in there?" -  I'm looking forward to adding skins and mods.  The turbo Bonanza is now a bit of a hot rod and is starting to eat into my Mooney hours  

[Lusekofte]

I might try it, I would like to like a multiengined plane so far I havent really done that

[Feathered_IV]

So I arrived in Coffs Harbour late last night and stopped by the airport bar to see if I could wash away the taste of ABS plastic and new carpet that I get from flying these modern GA planes.  I met a bloke there, and we got to talking about aircraft old and new.  He said he had something a bit different in one of the hangars and suggested I pop round in the morning for a look.  The next day I took him up on the offer and headed down to Hangar B.  You can imagine my surprise when I saw what he had there...

 

 

He said the exterior was in as-new condition but the interior still needed some work.  He reckoned the view from the cockpit more than made up for it though.  Half jokingly I asked if he'd swap it with me for my Cessna.  To my surprise he agreed and we shook hands on the spot.  Not wanting to give him time to change his mind, I had the hangar doors opened up and I kicked the tyres.  In less than ten minutes I was on my way!

 

In daylight the colour scheme looked totally different, but I didn't let that bother me much.  The old girl was pretty slow to get moving, but once the tail was up she was quite pleasant to fly.  I headed north up the coast and on to the next stop of my world tour.

 

 

Flying a new type can be tricky.  Luckily I managed to make a decent show of it and made quite a respectable landing at the aero-club where I called in for lunch.

 

[Chief_Mouser]

9 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

So I arrived in Coffs Harbour late last night and stopped by the airport bar to see if I could wash away the taste of ABS plastic and new carpet that I get from flying these modern GA planes.  I met a bloke there, and we got to talking about aircraft old and new.  He said he had something a bit different in one of the hangars and suggested I pop round in the morning for a look.  The next day I took him up on the offer and headed down to Hangar B.  You can imagine my surprise when I saw what he had there...

 

 

He said the exterior was in as-new condition but the interior still needed some work.  He reckoned the view from the cockpit more than made up for it though.  Half jokingly I asked if he'd swap it with me for my Cessna.  To my surprise he agreed and we shook hands on the spot.  Not wanting to give him time to change his mind, I had the hangar doors opened up and I kicked the tyres.  In less than ten minutes I was on my way!

 

In daylight the colour scheme looked totally different, but I didn't let that bother me much.  The old girl was pretty slow to get moving, but once the tail was up she was quite pleasant to fly.  I headed north up the coast and on to the next stop of my world tour.

 

 

Flying a new type can be tricky.  Luckily I managed to make a decent show of it and made quite a respectable landing at the aero-club where I called in for lunch.

 

 

Now that's MY type of aircraft! Must get me one. I can't get to Coffs Harbour atm, am waiting at Lydd to cross the Channel to Le Touquet, so where do you think I should look for one of these?

 

PS Had a flight in a Dragon Rapide at Duxford one year. They made my mate and I get in first and sit at the back because we were the heaviest of the fare-paying passengers, thus it wouldn't tip on to its nose when the pilot got in. ?

[Feathered_IV]

Well you didn't hear it from me, but this bloke said he had a couple of tricks to get the Rapide up and running.

 

First he went here  https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/9313/fsx-dehavilland-dh89a-dragon-rapide/  and got the plane.

 

Then he went to the Nexus forum and got a converter tool.  https://www.nexusmods.com/microsoftflightsimulator/mods/117?tab=videos

He said that watching the How-to video (the one dated October 17) made it easy to restore the plane to flyable condition and put it in his hangar.  Apparently there are a bunch of others that he has made airworthy again too.

[Lusekofte]

There is a b 25 bomber also. No pit only a washed our resembelance. Such things do not interest me. I am good in a non glass pit. Preferably a stol. I do not fly much at all. I wait out a proper vintage ac

[Stoopy]

@Feathered_IV

 

DANG that looks sweet! 

 

I think I've found a new sub-hobby in the flightsim world, making "hangar videos" in MFS.  And I think I found the perfect backing tracks. That Dragon Rapide would be right at home with some sexeh 70's porn music as the soundtrack, like this:

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Stoopy

[AndyJWest]

Nice spot for a picnic. ?

 

I've not tried flying though la tour, since my previous effort involving l’arc de triomphe ended with a black screen. Though I'm not entirely sure the Cub have fitted through anyway.

 

[Feathered_IV]

Turns out the people at the aero club in Palmer are big on De Havillands.  They looked the Rapide over and reckoned it still needed a bit of work.  They were dead keen to take the job on, but I really needed to be on my way.  Then they offered to loan me one of theirs:

 

 

Who could possibly refuse?  The cockpit was nice and it flew really well considering its age.

 

 

The day was pretty good and the weather was fine for the most part.  I didn't have any nav aids so I had to follow roads and rivers to the next destination.

 

 

 

Low cloud was forming and in some places reached right down to ground level, but I made it in alright.  Only a few stops away from the Gold Coast now.  I could have kept going, however I wanted to see a bloke about the circus.  More on that later...

 

 

 

[Hoots]

Hey @Feathered_IV, is that just a skin with a flight model of a default aircraft or is it a complete standalone package?

[DD_Arthur]

That looks nice. Does the cockpit ‘work’?

[Feathered_IV]

The Tiger Moth is a complete aircraft.  It’s the Freeware FSX one that was made by a person called Ant.  It has a nice looking cockpit and gauges that function if you convert it using the tool that I linked on the previous page.  The original model came with a garmin, which does not appear after converting.  But apart from that it is very flyable.  

[Lusekofte]

I would like it. But I simply do not convert anything. 
I am currently grounded until a proper vintage plane come along. 
except from small legs in my world tour. 
But it look fantastic

[Feathered_IV]

3 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I would like it. But I simply do not convert anything. 

 

It's no biggie.  Not like choosing a tattoo or a fridge magnet or whatever.  You can just try them out and delete them from your community folder after with no hard feelings.  It isn't necessary to edit config files and whatnot to get them in game.

 

The Tiger Moth flies rather well, but I would not be at all surprised if a payware version emerges soon.  The author also has a significantly better one in FSX and provides a free demo of it.  It's gorgeous inside and out, but I could not get the engine to start when I added it to FS2020.  Happy to shell out for it later though.

 

 

 

[AndyJWest]

A Tiger Moth would certainly make a nice bimbling-around option, if someone makes a proper one. What I'd really like to see though if we are discussing de Havilland's finest would be the DH.88 Comet.  ?

 

 

There was one in an earlier MSFS version, I think. A pig to take off and land in, obviously, but fast and long range (for its time) and drop dead gorgeous. Fly England-Australia in live weather, and try to beat the record...

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Feathered_IV said:

 

It's no biggie. 

Everything is a biggie to me and data. I suffer from major fatigue on sims for the time being. 
I enjoy this one fair enough, but it is not what it once was. Hope I get over it

[Trooper117]

1 minute ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

 I suffer from major fatigue on sims for the time being. 
 

 

Think I'm in the same boat... every time I fire up a flight sim game I play it for a bit and then sack it.

Spending major amount of time with Assassins Creed franchise at the moment... patiently waiting for Valhalla to arrive next month.

[Lusekofte]

I just play soltaire ?