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Posted

Thanks for multiplayer. Any SP updates to report???

Posted

Don't forget guys, that a great many are waiting for QMB, not everyone will be on the multiplayer.

May be coming in a week, but this is not an official announcement. Just let's hope that it's coming up that soon :)

 

Any Information on what progress if any for coming up with a muti-play coop option please ?

Never planned to make coop this year :)

Thanks for multiplayer. Any SP updates to report???

Hmm, nope!

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=AVG=Zombie
Posted

Right on!!!! Hopefully Team Speak will be utilized and I can be part of a very large formation of Il2's, with cover of course..... Going to be awesome, VVS will need to have good comms and tight formations to stay alive. See you guys around 8PM Pacific time, save me a slot.... 

Schmittfeuer
Posted

Well glad to see MP comming for this session, makes me wish my game would run just a tad smoother. Might be annoying to get into fights when the fps ain't too great.

Posted

Am I the only one who thinks 4x64 players is not very much? I'm a little bit worried that there won't be room for all of us...

Il2 Clod has 50-100 online in total at maximum, so dont vorry mate.

Lets hope we get full servers :-D

Posted (edited)

Thank you for multiplayer but count me out I do not like multiplayer game with the only exception of coop mission against pc flown planes, I hate to kill real peoples even in a game? So this is a white week for me.

 

Edited by senseispcc
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SE.VH_Boemundo
Posted

Oh great! Finally multiplayer will be placed. I will give it a try. Thanks!

Posted

Great news! I'm looking forward to flying on either side, depending on who is low on pilots. I think that Lagg-3 pilots will need to wing up as much as possible. Experienced pilots, take a noobie along and show them the ropes. Noobies, take an experienced pilot along and give 'em a laugh! See you in the skies!

 

Salut!

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=AVG=Zombie
Posted

Thank you for multiplayer but count me out I do not like multiplayer game with the only exception of coop mission against pc flown planes, I hate to kill real peoples even in a game? So this is a white week for me.

You do realize this is a war sim where your objective is to kill S#!@......

No601_Prangster
Posted

Looking forward to trying it but Laggs against 109s brings to mine Captain E. Blackadders immortal words:

 

"You see, Baldrick, dress it up in any amount of pompous verbal diarrhoea, but the message is - square heads down for the big Boche gang bang."  :biggrin:

Posted

You do realize this is a war sim where your objective is to kill S#!@......

 

Some players just have absolutely no interest in MP.

I myself have much less interest in SP (except maybe a really immersive dynamic campaign) 

 

What's great about the game is it is trying to cater to both audiences. 

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79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer
Posted

Some players just have absolutely no interest in MP.

I myself have much less interest in SP (except maybe a really immersive dynamic campaign) 

 

What's great about the game is it is trying to cater to both audiences. 

 

Indeed!

Posted

I can't wait to get shot down!

 

Great news!

Posted

I don't like the fact that you will be shot at during takeoff. Wouldn't there be AA around the airfield to prevent the enemy from flying around the airfield? I would much prefer a mission where you hold some middle ground or something like that. I know you can respawn further back, but respawning already in the air is not for me. Also, I don't want to spend the weekend as cannon fodder for the German planes without a good Russian plane, so feel free to take my slot. 

 

I also saw that Zak said that no coop this year? That is a massive downer for me because that is what me and my friends wanted most out of this Sim. So is this only going to be PvP and single player then?

SpartansJulian46
Posted

Hey guys I'm new to this forum malarky :biggrin:

 

I'm looking forward to the MP and I'm just generally enjoying the whole Early Access :biggrin:

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Posted

I don't like the fact that you will be shot at during takeoff. Wouldn't there be AA around the airfield to prevent the enemy from flying around the airfield? I would much prefer a mission where you hold some middle ground or something like that. I know you can respawn further back, but respawning already in the air is not for me.

Spawning in the air gives you the opportunity to proceed to the forward airbase and drop down on 109s that are target fixated on spawning Lagg-3s.

 

Cheers!

Posted (edited)

I don't like the fact that you will be shot at during takeoff. Wouldn't there be AA around the airfield to prevent the enemy from flying around the airfield? I would much prefer a mission where you hold some middle ground or something like that. I know you can respawn further back, but respawning already in the air is not for me. Also, I don't want to spend the weekend as cannon fodder for the German planes without a good Russian plane, so feel free to take my slot. 

 

I also saw that Zak said that no coop this year? That is a massive downer for me because that is what me and my friends wanted most out of this Sim. So is this only going to be PvP and single player then?

 

I'm pretty sure this week's MP access is just effectively a team vs team 'duels map' - to give us an idea of what is capable in MP. I wouldn't read to much into this setup.

 

I'm sure there will be different scenarios and map types in the future. 

 

As for coop - what I understand there is:

Multi Seat PvP

 

and there isn't:

Multi Seat or Multi Plane PvE

 

Can someone confirm that I am right about that?

Edited by Mewt
Posted

Spawning in the air gives you the opportunity to proceed to the forward airbase and drop down on 109s that are target fixated on spawning Lagg-3s.

 

Cheers!

 

I know, but I just don't like that kind of setup. I like it to feel real and not like I have been beamed into a plane that is already at 1000ft. But I am sure there will be better missions as the game develops.

Posted

I don't like the fact that you will be shot at during takeoff. Wouldn't there be AA around the airfield to prevent the enemy from flying around the airfield? I would much prefer a mission where you hold some middle ground or something like that. I know you can respawn further back, but respawning already in the air is not for me. Also, I don't want to spend the weekend as cannon fodder for the German planes without a good Russian plane, so feel free to take my slot. 

 

I also saw that Zak said that no coop this year? That is a massive downer for me because that is what me and my friends wanted most out of this Sim. So is this only going to be PvP and single player then?

There is AA around airfields, so those who plan to be strafing planes taking off will inevitably die if they stick around for too long. With the amount of planes that will end up concentrated at those two airfields you should have windows of opportunity to take off unscathed anyway as they may be distracted by guys already airborne.

LLv34_Flanker
Posted

S!

 

 Well, at least we get to test the stability of the client in MP mode. Devs need data of that and there are a lot of peeps wanting to MP so I am sure there will be feedback. Will see if I get to play MP at all. Need to test things more ;)

Posted

 

I also saw that Zak said that no coop this year? That is a massive downer for me because that is what me and my friends wanted most out of this Sim. So is this only going to be PvP and single player then?

 

+1000

No coop? 

Say goodbye to many of the organized groups of Il2.

Sad news ....

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DD_bongodriver
Posted

I don't want to sound like a mindwashed sycophant........really I don't, but this really is still in alpha, we really should wait for a final release before expecting stuff like co-op's and full features etc.

Posted (edited)

+1000

No coop? 

Say goodbye to many of the organized groups of Il2.

Sad news ....

 

Surly coop cannot be that hard to implement can it? No coop this year?

Edited by Rigsby
Posted

What's to stop anyone making an MP mission with AI on one side and humans flying against them? Isn't that pretty much the same as a co-op mission? :huh:

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Posted (edited)

I don't want to sound like a mindwashed sycophant........really I don't, but this really is still in alpha, we really should wait for a final release before expecting stuff like co-op's and full features etc.

 

Zak said "Never planned to make coop this year" , final release should be spring, so sound like no coop at all, not only in the alpha stage.
I really hope i'm misreading the news.
Edited by Aracno
Posted

Surely the mission makers can make a players vs AI multiplayer mission?

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BraveSirRobin
Posted

What's to stop anyone making an MP mission with AI on one side and humans flying against them? Isn't that pretty much the same as a co-op mission? :huh:

 

Nothing and yes.  

The only thing you can't do in RoF dogfight missions is set up a side with 10 aircraft and have 2 of them fly as AI if you only have 8 human pilots.

Posted

I may be wrong about this but if this game is set up like RoF you will be able to have a co-op in all but name.  Simply set up a server that is password protected and only let your squadron in.  Then simply all fly for the same side.  You can set up a mission where the other side will all be flown by AI.  What would the difference between that and co-op be?

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Posted

Co-op mode usage dropped off massively once the DF modes came out in Rise of Flight, so the lack of Co-op's popularity in RoF is probably why we won't see it on release.

Posted

Nothing and yes.  

The only thing you can't do in RoF dogfight missions is set up a side with 10 aircraft and have 2 of them fly as AI if you only have 8 human pilots.

That would be complicated, but possible. But that would require the 8 human pilots to show up at roughly the same time. It could basically be setup like one spawned human plane would despawn one ai plane.

BraveSirRobin
Posted

ok, I stand corrected.  You can even have AI fill the aircraft not taken by humans. 

Posted

Co-op mode usage dropped off massively once the DF modes came out in Rise of Flight, so the lack of Co-op's popularity in RoF is probably why we won't see it on release.

 

I dont know Rof DF modes, so you can do with DF mode all the things we actually do in Co-op with Il2 1946 (SEOW, bellum, megamission, historical battle, etc etc) ?

Are you sure?

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Posted

Some players just have absolutely no interest in MP.

I myself have much less interest in SP (except maybe a really immersive dynamic campaign) 

 

What's great about the game is it is trying to cater to both audiences. 

Yep.  

LY_LCT_unknwn
Posted

"There will be two planes on each airfield: Bf 109 F-4 and Ju-87 for Luftwaffe and LaGG-3 and IL-2 for VVS."

So no yak in this mp test? If so it will be boring for F-4 pilots :)

Posted

are we waiting for update or smth ??

cant play :( new version available , please update your game :( 

 

launcher doesnt update anything :( 

Posted

So no yak in this mp test? If so it will be boring for F-4 pilots :)

...and exciting for the Lagg-3 pilots to try and work together to fend off the Uber-109s. Commmmmeeee over to the Red side. :-)
LY_LCT_unknwn
Posted

...and exciting for the Lagg-3 pilots to try and work together to fend off the Uber-109s. Commmmmeeee over to the Red side. :-)

Not the uber-109 but uselessLagg-3 :biggrin:

Posted

Not the uber-109 but uselessLagg-3 :biggrin:

Hmmm, what's the Russian for "useless" (or "guaranteed varnished coffin" if I remember correctly). :-)

Posted (edited)

I don't like the fact that you will be shot at during takeoff. Wouldn't there be AA around the airfield to prevent the enemy from flying around the airfield? I would much prefer a mission where you hold some middle ground or something like that. I know you can respawn further back, but respawning already in the air is not for me. Also, I don't want to spend the weekend as cannon fodder for the German planes without a good Russian plane, so feel free to take my slot.

 

 

I'll be up there in a single sitter Il-2, with 25-30% fuel and 23mm cannons, cherry picking careless, overconfident vulchers, in their shiny 109's.:) Edited by Jaws2002
SR-F_Winger
Posted (edited)

May be coming in a week, but this is not an official announcement. Just let's hope that it's coming up that soon :)

 

Never planned to make coop this year :)

Hmm, nope!

While youre answering questions... Is there yet any rough timeframe as of when the permanent access with multiplayer will become available?

Thanks!

Edited by VSG1_Winger

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