Combat Box by Red Flight

[Haza]

Just now, CIA_Luth said:

maybe haza and the rest of the luftaces would be happy if blue had only 262s, and red only had p40.  im totally serious.  after 20 years of luftwhining,  this may be the only solution. 

 

love combat box.  Alonzo and team,  you are doing a great job.  

 

 

hi, thatguy. welcome aboard

 

Dear Luth,

 

I certainly do like your idea! However, as Alonso has admitted, if the Me262 was allowed then the red players would leave the server so perhaps it is the reds that we are actually pandering to and as such are the real "whiners" as you put it!

 

I certainly will not be leaving the server just because I get beaten or even when I'm outnumbered 2:1.  Interestingly, if you raise the 2:1 issue in chat, you get the usual reply of "It is historically accurate, if you don't like it leave"  by red players who care little about leveling the sides, yet these same players perhaps are the first to leave when a historical accurate aircraft is allowed, but I guess some players just think it is their right to always win or they will not play!

 

As explained in my previous posts, I have tried to have the discussion to justify why we should have the Me262, even to the extent where I have suggested restrictions to appease those who might leave or complain.  However, at the end of the day it is all about the server popularity and not really based on any real historical reason. Indeed, I don't think even having the 4 engine high altitude bombers would change anything. 

 

That said, my engagement and discussions with the more mature players who have bothered have been interesting.  I guess it is viewed by the likes of you that I shouldn't be allowed to raise anything and we have the usual puerile comments and quotes such as  "Luftwhiners" a bit like the other quotes of  "Fake News" and "If your not with us, your against us" used by people who can't really have a discussion and need to resort to such remarks when they have nothing actually constructive to say. 

 

Therefore, if Alonzo's stance is that the Me262 will be like a unicorn, then there is little point in me bothering raising the Me262 discussion again and I will respect his position, although I concur with you that he and the team are doing a great job, but that doesn't mean I can't have a discussion or raise suggestions. 

 

Regards

Edited February 2, 2020 by Haza

[JG7_X-Man]

Guys - The issue is simple. I have said it time and time again -  Red pilots (i.e. the good guys) have history on their side. They want the easy kills they read about in memoirs and see on the history channels. However, since it hard to recreate the true reason for the easy kills the Allies had in the later part of the war on a multiplayer server:

• Lack of experienced pilots
• Scarcity of fuel
• Scarcity of serviceable aircraft in numbers
• Lack of leadership

Server admins have had resort to limiting weapons/mods (i.e. 30MM on the G-6 and G-14 and the F-4 headrest armor) and aircraft (Me 262 and K-4 DB605DC engine) to cater to the many.

 

From the developers - unless a different version of the P-51D is released for the Battle of Normandy - anyone flying it will have what's the advantage of a G-Suit in Jun '44, which was not standard issue until the Nov/Dec '44 (even though  not ever pilot wore them into combat).

 

Every RED pilot here says the same thing, "We want historic air combat!" -  what than means to most Allied pilots here is the "right" side must win and the "wrong" side must to lose.

 

So I say to the faithful BLUE pilots, let's continue to give them hell! Let them tie our hands behind our backs and force us to fight (...play ) with an uneven hand. So when they fall - they will know they had all the advantages and still couldn't match us - let alone on equal terms! Ooh-rah!

[CIA_Luth]

I guess what I'm saying to the likes of you haza, is that even though you don't like my opinion, it's just as valid as yours. Or do you not have the freedom to disagree where you live? 

[Haza]

2 hours ago, CIA_Luth said:

I guess what I'm saying to the likes of you haza, is that even though you don't like my opinion, it's just as valid as yours. Or do you not have the freedom to disagree where you live? 

 

Luth,

 

It is not a question of not liking your opinion, the issue I have is that you appear not to have the mental ability to engage in a discussion and resort to childish comments about "whiners" to justify your actions!

Regarding your other question, yes I do have the freedom to disagree, however, thankfully where I live we don't have the freedom or excuse to freely have a gun that can be used against somebody when they don't agree with somebody else's views! Therefore, as I don't have to worry about being shot because I might disagree with somebody where I live, I would ask which one of us has true freedom!?

 

Regards

 

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Haza

[CIA_Luth]

Haza, was there anything you just said that was an intelligent duscussion? Or was it all just cheap and feebile insults? 

 

I think I will exercise my freedom to recognize you aren't worth it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KoN_]

Bug on barges 1616 . Destroyed and was crossed off on map . Yet no stat report and Zero kill . Once landed safely. { Web-page has it corrected . }

Also on trucks that are static along the roads after first pass , gun hits yet no damage is this a game bug or server side . 

On 262s pilots that are confident and can fly these Wonderbra machines should fly .

Im thinking  maybe put a message in chat  if that`s possible maybe this will stop someone  new that cant fly it . 

Edited February 2, 2020 by KoN_

[Talon_]

20 hours ago, Haza said:

adding bomb racks, limiting fuel or adding armour

 

Just FYI since last year mods can no longer be "forced on", only locked and unselectable.

Edited February 2, 2020 by Talon_

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

11 hours ago, Haza said:

Therefore, as I don't have to worry about being shot because I might disagree with somebody where I live, I would ask which one of us has true freedom!?

 

Regards

 

 

 

The main difference is you'd be more likely to be shot with an unregistered weapon and, depending on location, have first responders show up much later to clean up the mess.  

Edited February 2, 2020 by Mobile_BBQ

[PainGod85]

14 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Guys - The issue is simple. I have said it time and time again -  Red pilots (i.e. the good guys) have history on their side. They want the easy kills they read about in memoirs and see on the history channels. However, since it hard to recreate the true reason for the easy kills the Allies had in the later part of the war on a multiplayer server:

• Lack of experienced pilots
• Scarcity of fuel
• Scarcity of serviceable aircraft in numbers
• Lack of leadership

Server admins have had resort to limiting weapons/mods (i.e. 30MM on the G-6 and G-14 and the F-4 headrest armor) and aircraft (Me 262 and K-4 DB605DC engine) to cater to the many.

 

From the developers - unless a different version of the P-51D is released for the Battle of Normandy - anyone flying it will have what's the advantage of a G-Suit in Jun '44, which was not standard issue until the Nov/Dec '44 (even though  not ever pilot wore them into combat).

 

Every RED pilot here says the same thing, "We want historic air combat!" -  what than means to most Allied pilots here is the "right" side must win and the "wrong" side must to lose.

 

So I say to the faithful BLUE pilots, let's continue to give them hell! Let them tie our hands behind our backs and force us to fight (...play ) with an uneven hand. So when they fall - they will know they had all the advantages and still couldn't match us - let alone on equal terms! Ooh-rah!

 

How DARE the allies expect the Germans to swallow the disadvantage of only getting homeopathic doses of their jet when the former have to swallow the much larger bitter pill of not outnumbering them 10:1?

[Alonzo]

In response to complaints about server performance this evening (europe time) I have disabled the stats website. Stats are being recorded, they are just unavailable to view at the moment. If switching off the web site seems to improve performance for our pilots, we'll look at moving them permanently to a different host.

 

Stats are being recorded, it's just the web site is deliberately offline for the time being.

[O_Mollusc]

JG7_X-Man did not mention uncertain build quality of many German aircraft in 1943-45. Try being the experte in an aircraft which reveals its unreliability long after take-off, courtesy of those who worked on it.

Unlike the Swiss Air Force, a late-war geschwaderkommodore would be desperate for replacement aircraft, and so not all the unsatisfactory ones would be sent back to the factory.

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

43 minutes ago, O_Mollusc said:

JG7_X-Man did not mention uncertain build quality of many German aircraft in 1943-45. Try being the experte in an aircraft which reveals its unreliability long after take-off, courtesy of those who worked on it.

Unlike the Swiss Air Force, a late-war geschwaderkommodore would be desperate for replacement aircraft, and so not all the unsatisfactory ones would be sent back to the factory.

 

I don't think it factors in-game as much as it did IRL.  IRL, by the end of the war, German metallurgical quality ranged (seemingly randomly) from "still pretty good" to "well you can at least press some decent infantry helmets out of it".  

In-game, it seems that the only thing that will kill an engine outside of actual gunfire/flak is pilot error.  This is probably to prevent players from being confused when they can't review and look for what they did wrong vs. doing everything right and chalking up a case of "luck sometimes sucks".   Add to that the possibility of randomness giving a player multiple failed planes in a row, and bug complaints / customer complaints would be through the roof.  

 

From what I can tell when it comes to in-combat engine kills, it's about equal.  I can live with that even though the chances of a close range .50 cal. cracking a late G or K model's engine block and insta-stopping the prop or outright exploding the engine as gasoline suddenly flowed where it shouldn't were (IRL) probably much higher vs. the other way around.   

Edited February 2, 2020 by Mobile_BBQ

[Creep]

22 hours ago, CIA_Luth said:

maybe haza and the rest of the luftaces would be happy if blue had only 262s, and red only had p40.  im totally serious.  after 20 years of luftwhining,  this may be the only solution. 

 

love combat box.  Alonzo and team,  you are doing a great job.  

 

 

hi, thatguy. welcome aboard

So much salt from people that fly one side exclusively. Not trying to single you out Luth, it’s not just you. 
 

I would love to see everyone get along in this small community. I think that flying both sides on the regular might go a long way towards that goal. Think about it?

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

34 minutes ago, QB.Creep said:

So much salt from people that fly one side exclusively. Not trying to single you out Luth, it’s not just you. 
 

I would love to see everyone get along in this small community. I think that flying both sides on the regular might go a long way towards that goal. Think about it?

 

I admit to liking the planes that I like. Those happen to be the Red ones.  That said, I have no problem with placing multiplayer balance higher than history. 

I kind of lean toward the possibility of some maps having asymmetrical balance as long as it's stated in the mission briefing that they are mis-balanced on purpose and have counterpart maps favoring the other side in the server rotation.  

The real issue is that making maps that are not somewhat asymmetrical no matter how much work is put into them is extremely difficult. 

Yes, sometimes I do wish certain maps were more "even", but I'm starting to come around to the idea of just having very interesting scenarios and challenges and leaving it at that.   

 

[69th_Bazzer]

36 minutes ago, PainGod85 said:

 

How DARE the allies expect the Germans to swallow the disadvantage of only getting homeopathic doses of their jet when the former have to swallow the much larger bitter pill of not outnumbering them 10:1?

I'll point this out again, fewer than 300 262's saw combat, as against tens of thousands of allied fighters (using 150 octane fuel) in the historical time range this server simulates.

 

You are really getting far too many 262's as it is, historically speaking. However, it's a good amount for balance and interesting gameplay reasons, so I don't mean that comment as any kind of complaint.

 

Further, I think we should remember in these discussions that if history played out like this server, the Meteor would have been moved to the front, and more advanced Allied fighter designs would have received the green light for mass production.

 

You're playing with an unrealistic and ahistorical advantage as it is. This is why it's called Luftwhining when you insist you should have even more.

Edited February 3, 2020 by 69th_Bazzer

[PainGod85]

2 minutes ago, 69th_Bazzer said:

I'll point this out again, fewer than 300 262's saw combat, as against tens of thousands of allied fighters (using 150 octane fuel) in the historical time range this server simulates.

 

You are really getting far too many 262's as it is, historically speaking. However, it's a good amount for balance and interesting gameplay reasons, so I don't mean that comment as any kind of complaint.

 

Further, I think we should remember in these discussions that if history played out like this server, the Meteor would have been moved to the front, and more advanced Allied fighter designs would have received the green light for mass production.

 

You're playing with an unrealistic and ahistorical advantage as it is. This is why it's called Luftwhining when you insist you should have even more.

 

If you quoted me to reinforce the point to X-Man et al, please disregard the following:

 

Please read my response again, carefully this time.

[69th_Bazzer]

Just now, QB.Creep said:

So much salt from people that fly one side exclusively. Not trying to single you out Luth, it’s not just you. 
 

I would love to see everyone get along in this small community. I think that flying both sides on the regular might go a long way towards that goal. Think about it?

I love the chances I get to fly blue. The planes are far easier to fly, and it is much easier to get kills. I agree it helps improve perspective to fly both sides.

 

People are always salty in these discussions, because they really care. It's far better than apathy. 

Just now, PainGod85 said:

 

If you quoted me to reinforce the point to X-Man et al, please disregard the following:

 

Please read my response again, carefully this time.

I fully comprehended your post the first time, and in no way do I want disproportionate ratios of pilots on either side. My point is the amount of 262's is actually advantageous to blue, not the disadvantage you claimed.

Edited February 3, 2020 by 69th_Bazzer

[PainGod85]

9 minutes ago, 69th_Bazzer said:

You are really getting far too many 262's as it is, historically speaking. However, it's a good amount for balance and interesting gameplay reasons, so I don't mean that comment as any kind of complaint.

 

Further, I think we should remember in these discussions that if history played out like this server, the Meteor would have been moved to the front, and more advanced Allied fighter designs would have received the green light for mass production.

 

You're playing with an unrealistic and ahistorical advantage as it is. This is why it's called Luftwhining when you insist you should have even more.

 

Then I don't get why you were responding to me with this; I'd made the exact same point in my response, albeit with a sarcastic comparison.

[69th_Bazzer]

Just now, PainGod85 said:

 

Then I don't get why you were responding to me with this; I'd made the exact same point in my response, albeit with a sarcastic comparison.

I totally missed the sarcasm but I get it now, and I do apologize. Sarcasm font is a thing for a reason I guess. Gonna leave the prior post as is, the people I was really arguing against are unlikely to care anyway.

[CIA_Luth]

3 hours ago, QB.Creep said:

So much salt from people that fly one side exclusively. Not trying to single you out Luth, it’s not just you. 
 

I would love to see everyone get along in this small community. I think that flying both sides on the regular might go a long way towards that goal. Think about it?

Think about what? Flying both sides? And please, you did single me out. Once again, I'm gonna exercise my freedom to fly only one side of that's what I want to do. 

 

Freedom. What a wonderful concept.

 

[KoN_]

12 hours ago, Alonzo said:

In response to complaints about server performance this evening (europe time) I have disabled the stats website. Stats are being recorded, they are just unavailable to view at the moment. If switching off the web site seems to improve performance for our pilots, we'll look at moving them permanently to a different host.

 

Stats are being recorded, it's just the web site is deliberately offline for the time being.

Thank you for your time and efforts on this server , can i ask what the issues are that you are facing.

[Otto_bann]

7 hours ago, CIA_Luth said:

... I'm gonna exercise my freedom to fly only one side of that's what I want to do...

 

 

+1

Let to guys the freedom to do what they want. The best way to make them run away from servers is to impose constraints on them.

Some guys prefer one side and if you try to force them to fly on the other side, the necessary adaptation time can make them fly without pleasure or with less pleasure.

Currently I am learning the 51, an efficient and funny plane, but it's hard to me to forget the specifics of the 109 which I am so used to. I still need time to be able to satisfy my sorties on this red plane and I fly less... However, I want to persevere to learn this interesting fighter, because nicely handeled, it's a great killer for sure (it comes slowly).

We have to understand why many guys fly on one side and we have to respect that.

[adler_1]

TANK push grid 2637 Butzbach town

 I flew there approx 15 mn after the mission started and went up and down to Ettinghausen following the 2 main roads leading up to the airfield and town and found no tanks rumbling up . When do the tanks appear at Butzbach and move up the road and where do they stop ?

[Creep]

11 hours ago, 69th_Bazzer said:

I love the chances I get to fly blue. The planes are far easier to fly, and it is much easier to get kills. I agree it helps improve perspective to fly both sides.

Are we talking about the BoBp planes? Are you referring to ground attack or air to air? I am honestly not sure what you mean when you say that the Axis planes are easier to fly and that it is easier to get kills using them. I feel that the balance between Axis and Allied is better than it ever has been before since the BoBp release. Axis no longer has a tremendous advantage like they had in the past. If anything, Allied has a slight edge across the board with the new planes. I really don't see how anyone can make an argument that the Axis planes are easier and better in the BoBp expansion on CB.

[Birdman]

14 minutes ago, QB.Creep said:

Are we talking about the BoBp planes? Are you referring to ground attack or air to air? I am honestly not sure what you mean when you say that the Axis planes are easier to fly and that it is easier to get kills using them. I feel that the balance between Axis and Allied is better than it ever has been before since the BoBp release. Axis no longer has a tremendous advantage like they had in the past. If anything, Allied has a slight edge across the board with the new planes. I really don't see how anyone can make an argument that the Axis planes are easier and better in the BoBp expansion on CB.

I assume he means less engine management, longer timers for emergency power?

 

My personal opinion is that the 109s are more forgiving in air to air with the FWs being much harder to master. And also people have been practising with one flavor or the other of these two families for years by now.

 

All allied planes are good performers IMHO except maybe the P-47 (we never really get to fight where it shines) and the P-38 needs to be used with discipline.

[Creep]

9 hours ago, CIA_Luth said:

Think about what? Flying both sides? And please, you did single me out. Once again, I'm gonna exercise my freedom to fly only one side of that's what I want to do. 

 

Freedom. What a wonderful concept.

 

 

I probably should not have quoted you; apologies for that. My point about the grass always being greener is still a valid one, however. I am not saying you can't fly what you want to fly, but I think that the quickest path towards a true understanding of the advantages and disadvantages of Axis aircraft is to simply fly them. I simply want people that are so strongly biased to have an understanding of all aircraft. I think that directly translates to less hostility when there are disagreements and a more positive community overall.

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

1 hour ago, QB.Creep said:

 

 I think that the quickest path towards a true understanding of the advantages and disadvantages of Axis aircraft is to simply fly them. 

 

The simple fact is that even with the most recent Allied planes addition, you either catch the enemy unaware or you out-think him if he is aware of you.  Only in certain very specific factors do they outperform Axis planes, are equal sometimes and still inferior the rest of the time. That's about it, really.   

[Otto_bann]

Actually and since ~20 days I fly only the 51 after flyed blue side since long time ago.

 

So and only about the 51 (I don't know enough about other red planes), his engine is less easy to manage (not automatic) but  it is more interesting also (I like it).

 

On ground with this plane, you can do what you want , it is realy easier to handel than any blue fighter which can be already dangerous for newbies between parking and runway.

 

At least, the rear view on 51 is a gift : easier to check your six, I never take the mirror extra, it's really not needed (nor the 150 octane option, I never took it..;).

 

If this plane is not the best, it don't be too far to be it, it is very good and dangerous for his opponents everywhere and it is very versatile.

 

A trained pilot with a few skills, used to this plane is necessarily among the top of the ranking

 

I will spend again several weeks or months with it, I love it

Edited February 3, 2020 by Otto_bann

[Alonzo]

7 hours ago, KoN_ said:

Thank you for your time and efforts on this server , can i ask what the issues are that you are facing.

 

On the datacentre server, the CPU and RAM are not fast enough to avoid "multiplayer server overload" messages. On the basement hosted server with overclocked CPU, it does great on the server but the network is the limiting factor. What I really need is to put this rig into a datacentre but it's the wrong format (simple desktop chassis, not rackmount).

[Barnacles]

30 minutes ago, Otto_bann said:

Actually and since ~20 days I fly only the 51 after flyed blue side since long time ago.

 

So and only about the 51 (I don't know enough about other red planes), his engine is less easy to manage (not automatic) but  it is more interesting also (I like it).

 

On ground with this plane, you can do what you want , it is realy easier to handel than any blue fighter which can be already dangerous for newbies between parking and runway.

 

At least, the rear view on 51 is a gift : easier to check your six, I never take the mirror extra, it's really not needed (nor the 150 octane option, I never took it..;).

 

If this plane is not the best, it don't be too far to be it, it is very good and dangerous for his opponents everywhere and it is very versatile.

 

A trained pilot with a few skills, used to this plane is necessarily among the top of the ranking

 

I will spend again several weeks or months with it, I love it

It is really good to see people exploring the 'other side'. I think it's very important when considering balance to have walked a mile in the other guy's shoes otherwise how can one have a truly objective opinion?

[Ribbon]

26 minutes ago, 71st_AH_Barnacles said:

It is really good to see people exploring the 'other side'. I think it's very important when considering balance to have walked a mile in the other guy's shoes otherwise how can one have a truly objective opinion?

+1

Also it's a blessing to like many aircraft types no matter the side they belong!

Imo guys flying only one plane are missing a lot of fun, it's not all in stats!

[KoN_]

31 minutes ago, 71st_AH_Barnacles said:

It is really good to see people exploring the 'other side'. I think it's very important when considering balance to have walked a mile in the other guy's shoes otherwise how can one have a truly objective opinion?

One month Blue one month Red . That`s how i fly these days . When i was in a squad it was mainly blue . But we did change depending on campaigns . But that`s all stopped now . Il-2 1946 RIP.

[Creep]

12 hours ago, Mobile_BBQ said:

 

The simple fact is that even with the most recent Allied planes addition, you either catch the enemy unaware or you out-think him if he is aware of you.  Only in certain very specific factors do they outperform Axis planes, are equal sometimes and still inferior the rest of the time. That's about it, really.   

 

I agree with you EXCEPT for the part where you say Allied planes are “inferior the rest of the time”. The margin between them is so small that it mostly becomes about situational awareness, player skill, and coordination with your teammates.

 

In what ways are the Axis planes better than the Allied planes? How big of a disparity do you think there is between a Tempest and a K4? Or between a Dora and a P-51?

Edited February 4, 2020 by QB.Creep
I didn’t notice the “inferior the rest of the time” bit at first!

[Blackhawk_FR]

On 2/3/2020 at 2:19 AM, 69th_Bazzer said:

The planes are far easier to fly, and it is much easier to get kills.

 

 LOL !!!!

Edited February 4, 2020 by JG300_Faucon

[=621=Samikatz]

imo if you want to do intentionally asymmetrical maps you have to enforce playercounts, there are too many people who will only fly what they see as the winningest side. CBox is fine the majority of the time because the maps are (mostly) balanced. Look at how some early Eastern Front maps end up 50:20 runway campfests if you want to see how unrestricted asymmetry goes

[Otto_bann]

20 hours ago, KoN_ said:

One month Blue one month Red . That`s how i fly these days . When i was in a squad it was mainly blue . But we did change depending on campaigns . But that`s all stopped now . Il-2 1946 RIP.

 

This agenda can't be drawn by all if you want get same good results on each side. Many time and great skills are needed for jump on both sides easily, it's why a large part of us flies on one side only IMO.

Edited February 4, 2020 by Otto_bann

[CIA_Luth]

Alonzo,

 

on the closing the Ruhr pocket map, mission briefing says red has 6 targets to destroy, blue has 5.  last night, red destroyed 3 and blue destroyed 2 but map ended in stalemate. it ends in a stalemate every time red destroyes fewer than 6 targets, but more than blue.  am I missing something.  mission briefing says the side that destroys the majority of targets is the winner when time runs out.

[RedKestrel]

22 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

On the datacentre server, the CPU and RAM are not fast enough to avoid "multiplayer server overload" messages. On the basement hosted server with overclocked CPU, it does great on the server but the network is the limiting factor. What I really need is to put this rig into a datacentre but it's the wrong format (simple desktop chassis, not rackmount).

I may be exposing my ignorance quite badly here...is it a relatively simple matter of re-arranging the hardware and putting it into a new chassis, like putting components in a PC case, or are there fundamental hardware differences involved that make it incompatible no matter what?

[Alonzo]

3 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

I may be exposing my ignorance quite badly here...is it a relatively simple matter of re-arranging the hardware and putting it into a new chassis, like putting components in a PC case, or are there fundamental hardware differences involved that make it incompatible no matter what?

 

Having looked at it further, the datacentre motherboard is refusing to allow much power draw by the CPU. So it's a 95W TDP CPU that's kneecapped by ~24W max power off the board. I'm kind of confused why you'd pair those two things like that, and the board supports Xeon server chips which I assume use more than a measly 25W, so I'm kind of shrugging. Can't tell if the provider is being too conservative (probably, yes) or just doesn't really understand game serving (this also). It's unfortunate because the network is good and the chip can do 8-cores, which on a traditional multithreaded workload is good performance. And the cores help when we have stats DB and other stuff running on the box.

 

We haven't completely given up. I'm doing some tuning on the maps this week and we'll see if we can get them to run on the more limited hardware.

[KoN_]

3 hours ago, Otto_bann said:

 

This agenda can't be drawn by all if you want get same good results on each side. Many time and great skills are needed for jump on both sides easily, it's why a large part of us flies on one side only IMO.

Agree cant be done by all . But that`s down to personal preference . These air-frames are not hard to fly . 

Prop pitch 

Mixture 

flaps 

take off . 

The hard bit is seeing your enemy . Flying solo is hard work , constant checking six now ! might as well fly backwards .. lol . 

2 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

Having looked at it further, the datacentre motherboard is refusing to allow much power draw by the CPU. So it's a 95W TDP CPU that's kneecapped by ~24W max power off the board. I'm kind of confused why you'd pair those two things like that, and the board supports Xeon server chips which I assume use more than a measly 25W, so I'm kind of shrugging. Can't tell if the provider is being too conservative (probably, yes) or just doesn't really understand game serving (this also). It's unfortunate because the network is good and the chip can do 8-cores, which on a traditional multithreaded workload is good performance. And the cores help when we have stats DB and other stuff running on the box.

 

We haven't completely given up. I'm doing some tuning on the maps this week and we'll see if we can get them to run on the more limited hardware.

What is the setup to run the server hardware wise . ?