NETSCAPE's CO-OP

[NETSCAPE]

Are you tired of flying alone on dogfight servers and getting sniped by lazer guided AAA?

 

Are you tired of singleplayer with derpy AI?

 

Do you enjoy flying German bomber and attack aircraft?

 

...if you answered yes than NETSPACE's CO-OP missions will be for you!

 

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My CO-OP vision is to coordinate epic immersive fly-outs with people willing to communicate and make an effort to fly using historical formation and attack tactics

 

Here is a brief overview of my CO-OP design philosophy:

 

1. Historically based missions. Any and all data will be utilized including but not limited to: weather reports, frontline data, flight logs, airfield locations, plane load-outs ect. I'm no expert but I'm always learning new things. These types of missions won't be for everyone. Flight times may be quite long. Load-outs will be historical and locked, though there might be different load-outs for some players in particular missions.

 

2. Immersive CO-OP experience. Resources will be spent on a primary flight rather than multiple flights of many types of planes across two teams. For example, a primary flight may be 12 x Ju 87 or 15 x He 111. Playable fighter slots may be available for one or both sides. VVS players will be utilized on occasion. (But why use the derpy AI as opposition NETSCAPE? Well, VVS pilots won't want to wait literally 60+ minutes for the Ju 52's to arrive to the 6th Army for example...)

 

3. Reasonable AA fire. The vast majority of AA guns will be set to "low". The exception will be the 85mm & 88mm flak which will utilize "normal" when not considered OP. 

 

4. Realistic opposition. I'm not saying all missions will be a cakewalk. But an example would be little to no VVS activity during Summer and into Autumn 1942. Obviously area of operation and date will dictate these design choices. 

 

5. Logical unit placement. Artillery in cover or concealment, AA guns covering river crossings, high traffic areas and troop build up locations... ect

 

6. Flight plan freedom. No waypoints. Which brings me to a very important point...

 

7. Humans only. Specifically this applies to the primary flight. The AI is unreliable and has many known issues. This is why I quit working on singleplayer content. If players don't "fill the slot" for an upcoming CO-OP event than the planes will be deleted from the mission for that specific event. Our flights will not include AI bomber or attack aircraft. 

 

8. No gamey "win" scenarios. All my singleplayer content required the player to make it back to base and land for the mission to be a success. In my CO-OP missions the "primary mission objective" is to fly a sortie - this will be triggered successful immediately. However, I may utilize "secondary" objectives that confirm (via debrief screen and on map) that specific tasks have been accomplished. You will not be required to destroy a specific target or number of targets in order to "win". Take off, form up, carry out mission, rtb and land. 

 

9. Randomization. When applicable, randomization of mission variables will be used. This will increase replay-ability to an extent. For example, a fighter flight could have different patrol zones or a convoy could head a different route... ect 

 

10. Real Navigation. No GPS.

 

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Tentative Mission List (WIP):

 

Spoiler

 

KG 55 - He 111 H6 - Stalingrad (missions based on actual flight log information)

Stalingrad Station no.1 Bombing - 23.8.1942

Karpovka Troop Concentration - 29 or 30.8.1942

Multi-Airfield Raid East of Volga (Night) - 3/4.9.1942

Kotluban Troop Concentration - 18.9.1942

NOTE: These missions could also be flow with Ju-88's from Tatsinskaya as well... 

 

StG 2 - Ju 87 D - Stalingrad (missions based on pilot and ground force accounts)

Battle of Kalach - 8.7.1942 

Battle for Gumrak - 8.23.1942 

Station no.1 & Hill 112 - 9.13.1942 

Soviet Counter Attack - 9.18.1942

Tractor Factory - 10.14.1942 

Volga Patrol - 10.15.1942 

Red October Factory - 10.23.1942 

Beketovka - 10.27.1942 

Operation Hubertus - 11.11.1942 

Operation Koltso - 1.10.1943

Sonderstaffel - 1.14.1943 

 

Sch.G 1 super mission - Hs 129 & Bf 109 E-7 jabo - Stalingrad (semi-historical, flexible missions, great replay-ability)

Features & Overview:

- Operating out of Tuzov during the summer of 1942, a mere 15km from the front

- A single "super mission" with 8 area's of interest to patrol and attack (these are zones, not precise map markers)

- Utilization of many randomization elements to increase replay-ability

I will create multiple versions of this by only changing the time of day. This way we could run the mission multiple times in a row and the day would grow old as the sorties go by... The original concept was basically a mini-campaign within a single mission. 

 

Sch.G 1 super mission - Hs 129 (panzerjager) & FW 190 A-5 Jabo - Kuban (semi-historical, flexible missions, great replay-ability)

Features & Overview:

- Operating out of Anapa during the spring of 1943, a only 50km from the front

- A single "super mission" with a target rich frontline area

- Utilization of many randomization elements to increase replay-ability

I will create multiple versions of this by only changing the time of day. This way we could run the mission multiple times in a row and the day would grow old as the sorties go by... The original concept was basically a mini-campaign within a single mission. 

 

Speaking of underdogs I'd also like to produce a handful of Ju 52 and Po-2 missions. As they say... if you build it they will come...

 

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Requirements:

- a mic & teamspeak

- wanting to fly as a cohesive unit

- willing to follow orders (this doesn't necessarily imply I will be giving them)

- ability to operate (take off & land ect) in the event specific aircraft 

- plane slot sign up via this thread

- password via this thread

 

Rules:

- don't be an a-hole

- no intentional friendly fire

- no lone wolfing (unless ordered/applicable during a sortie)

 

Schedule: 

I've never personally joined a squadron or event because I have health issues that basically make it impossible for me to maintain a schedule for more than a few weeks at a time. This is good and bad news for you guys. The good news is if you or your squadron operate on the other side of the world I will eventually be operating on your schedule also, for awhile at least. It's bizarre sounding I know, but my sleep cycle constantly pushes forward...This is one of many little gifts given to me by an unknown neurological issue stemming from a bad heatstroke in 2013. /blog

 

So, that being said, I have very little experience flying in formation with actual players except for some WOL and TS a long time ago... I'm hoping my CO-OP missions will formulate into a group of pilots who are willing to strive to get better at realistic flying. I am no expert. This will be a learning experience for me or maybe both of us.  

Edited March 12, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[NETSCAPE]

THE RING OF DEATH 

 

Ju 52's Departing Tatsinskaya at 14:30 hours:

 

Seagull 1: TG1_Nil (flight lead)

Seagull 2: 1/SG2_Jonick (wingman)

Seagull 3: ____ (wingman)

 

Stork 1: NETSCAPE (flight lead)

Stork 2: 2/SG2_rgrec (wingman)

Stork 3: ____ (wingman)

 

Crane 1: 1/SG2_Hummels (flight lead)

Crane 2: 2/SG2_COTbIU (wingman)

Crane 3: ____ (wingman)

 

Stand by: 1/SG2_Rudel 

 

Fighter Cover Provided by Bf 109 F4 or G2 (please specify preference)

 

Hawk 1: 24IAP_MadFather 

Hawk 2: 24IAP_Tovarisch_Mauser

 

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Note: Estimated flight time to Stalingrad area is 1 hour. I doubt anyone wants to RTB to make the mission over 2 hours...? I can easily add more fuel. 

 

Event Date 

Password: 1943

 

TeamSpeak:

netscape.teamspeak3.com

 

Tatsinskaya will be packed!

 

Spoiler

 

Edited February 23, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[Nil]

Thank you @NETSCAPE for this logistic mission ❤️

I like to land so I would like to be in the Seagull flight

 

[SCG_OpticFlow]

When is the event?

[NETSCAPE]

5 hours ago, OpticFlow said:

When is the event?

 

I am thinking start time of 1200 or 1300 hours PST GMT-8 on Saturday. That will be Evening on east coast US and night in Europe. Let me know what you guys think.

Edited February 20, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[NETSCAPE]

8 hours ago, TG1_Nil said:

Thank you @NETSCAPE for this logistic mission ❤️

I like to land so I would like to be in the Seagull flight

 

 

I marked you down as flight lead of your ketten. Let me know if you have a different preference. Taxi and takeoff order is reflected in the signup list. 

 

We will be flying arrowhead formation made of 3 ketten... well hopefully

Edited February 20, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[SCG_OpticFlow]

22 hours ago, NETSCAPE said:

 

I am thinking start time of 1200 or 1300 hours PST GMT-8 on Saturday. That will be Evening on east coast US and night in Europe. Let me know what you guys think.

 

My time zone is GMT+2 so I'd rather sleep during that time... 

[Nil]

PST is UTC -8

so 12h00 PST will be 20h00 UTC

21h Paris

23h Moscow

 

It is fine for me.

[Hummels]

Its normal for us, I will try to collect guys

[56RAF_Pod]

This looks like great fun!

On Saturday I have couchservice, so I cannot join, but I hope you will repeat it later or come up with new missions. Would have loved to fly the Ju52 with Nil!

I will post it on our discord channel.

[Retnek]

Wow, that's tempting! Need to cross-check with my CiC to achieve a leave from couch-duties. I'll let you know and make some propaganda, too.

 

Thx for the offer!

 

PS: Your design philosophyy, especially # 3, should be presented in Golden Letters on the start-up-screen of the mission-builder!

[NETSCAPE]

2 hours ago, 216th_Pod said:

This looks like great fun!

On Saturday I have couchservice, so I cannot join, but I hope you will repeat it later or come up with new missions. Would have loved to fly the Ju52 with Nil!

I will post it on our discord channel.

 

Thanks. I plan on making many missions (assuming we can fill slots, I will pump them out). I have a spoiler in my first post here with a mission list/outline. Unless you mean specifically more Ju 52 missions? In that case, evacuation of 17th Army might be interesting. I'd have to research the details and see what I could do.

 

And yes missions should be fine to be replayed. They will play slightly different with multiple variables being randomly selected at the start of the mission - some will feature this more than others. 

[Hummels]

Right now

1/SG2_Hummels +

1/SG2_Jonick +

1/SG2_Rudel (stand by, airgunner) +/-

2/SG2_rgrec +

2/SG2_COTbIU +

Edited February 22, 2019 by 1/SG2_Hummels

[Retnek]

8 hours ago, 216th_Retnek said:

... Need to cross-check with my CiC to achieve a leave from couch-duties....

Sorry, there are guests invited I never ever intended to disappoint. While sitting at the computer with headphones and that track-something on my head! 

 

Thx again, I'll keep an eye on this thread!

[Nil]

On 2/22/2019 at 7:52 AM, 216th_Pod said:

. Would have loved to fly the Ju52 with Nil!

Me too Pod! would loved to fly with you ! 

 

12 hours ago, NETSCAPE said:

Anyone have a TS server we can hop on? I avoid discord like the plague. 

Maybe the SG2 will be ok to use their TS Server

[NETSCAPE]

TeamSpeak:

netscape.teamspeak3.com

[Nil]

Good! so the event will be 21h00 UTC, saturday (today)!

2 hours ago, NETSCAPE said:

TeamSpeak:

netscape.teamspeak3.com

 

 

[NETSCAPE]

Well Mission was failed. I completely forgot about the pain of port opening in IL-2. And I neglected to bring up the fact that everyone needs to open up ports to play CO-OP. I checked my own afterwards and realized they were closed again for some reason (room mate reset router maybe). But in light of such failings - important scientific research was done:

 

[Hummels]

Interesting to see a screenshot from the angle of the Nil

[NETSCAPE]

THE RING OF DEATH

Event Date

 

 

NOTE: Estimated flight time to Stalingrad area is 1 hour.

 

Ju 52's Departing Tatsinskaya at 14:30 hours:

 

Seagull 1: TG1_Nil

Seagull 2: OpticFlow

Seagull 3: NETSCAPE

 

Stork 1: 2/SG2_rgrec

Stork 2: 1/SG2_Hummels

Stork 3: 2/SG2_COTbIU

 

Crane 1: 216th_Retnek

Crane 2: 

Crane 3: 

 

Fighter Cover Provided by Bf 109 F4 or G2 (please specify preference)

 

Hawk 1: 

Hawk 2: 

 

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>NETSCAPE CO-OP Password: 1942

 

>TeamSpeak: netscape.teamspeak3.com

Edited March 2, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[Nil]

I am in Netscape! Seagull 1 !

Thanks

[SCG_OpticFlow]

I want to sign up too for the March 2. event. Any Ju-52 slot is fine.

 

Thanks

[NETSCAPE]

We need a couple fighter pilots to cover us! 

 

I could set the AI to cover us but it won't work properly due to low cloud cover. They would fly above clouds...

[Retnek]

I'm in - Crane1 or any Ju you want me to

[NETSCAPE]

2 minutes ago, 216th_Retnek said:

I'm in - Crane1 or any Ju you want me to

 

Cool. It will be nice to fly and chat with ya! 

[NETSCAPE]

From now on I will change this threads title to reflect the upcoming event type or plane used. Hopefully this will attract more people or squadrons. 

[NETSCAPE]

please take a minute to vote if interested in underdog attack planes ?

 

 

[Hummels]

Stork 1: 2/SG2_rgrec

Stork 2: 1/SG2_Hummels

Stork 3: 2/SG2_COTbIU

and we are still waiting for a few people (2-4 pilots), tomorrow they will write precisely about participation

[Nil]

On 2/25/2019 at 12:39 AM, NETSCAPE said:

 

 

>ALL PLAYERS must open ports 28000 and 28100 TCP and UDP. This process might vary from one ISP/router to another.

 

>Check your router documentation or use google on how to open ports.

 

>After opening your ports - BE SURE TO VERIFY THAT THEY ARE OPEN PRIOR TO AN EVENT!

 

>You can verify this by using the trial version of Port Forward.

 

>In Port Forward go to: Tools > Port Checker > Type in port number > Click check.

 

>Be sure to test both port numbers with both TCP and UDP protocol ticked. This means you should do a total of 4 tests.

 

>If your result(s) are green text stating port is open you will be able join IL-2 CO-OP.

 

>If your result is red text stating port is closed you will NOT be able to join!

 

Thank you, it helped me a lot.

My port are open now.

Ready!!

[Hummels]

I have no ideas, why it is does not work..

[NETSCAPE]

11 minutes ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

I have no ideas, why it is does not work..

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Windows firewall settings should be set to allow "all" from IL-2.

 

Other than that it is hard to help because I have different Internet service and router. 

 

Maybe consult a fellow Russian that uses same service? Post on Russian IL-2 forum?

 

EDIT: maybe antivirus software conflicts? Try making exception or killing it entirely. I am not sure. 

Edited March 2, 2019 by NETSCAPE

[Hummels]

Windows firewall settings is ok as I understood.

[NETSCAPE]

2 minutes ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

Windows firewall settings is ok as I understood.

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Maybe call your Internet provider and tell (or yell) them the situation. 

[Hummels]

We now try to understand what the reason is. If we can decide, we'll join..Unfortunately I am not an specialist in this field...

[NETSCAPE]

3 minutes ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

We now try to understand what the reason is. If we can decide, we'll join..Unfortunately I am not an specialist in this field...

 

Well don't lose hope. In theory you should do this once and be good to go for CO-OP. Unless somebody resets your router... you do it again. 

[SCG_OpticFlow]

35 minutes ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

I have no ideas, why it is does not work..

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Set the IP address in the 3. column to be the address of your PC inside the router's network.

[56RAF_Roblex]

I am curious.  The app you suggested told me that those ports were not open but I have joined IL2 Co-Ops hosted by friends many times.   Is there a difference between what you are doing and what other Co-Ops do?

[NETSCAPE]

Just now, 56RAF_Roblex said:

I am curious.  The app you suggested told me that those ports were not open but I have joined IL2 Co-Ops hosted by friends many times.   Is there a difference between what you are doing and what other Co-Ops do?

 

no. And that is interesting. I was getting false negatives/false positives with web-based port checkers and I have always relied on Port Forward ?

[56RAF_Roblex]

7 minutes ago, NETSCAPE said:

 

no. And that is interesting. I was getting false negatives/false positives with web-based port checkers and I have always relied on Port Forward ?

 

Well I went through the process anyway to set up the four rules on my Router and now the program is happy but maybe I did not need to.

[Nil]

Good news!

We tested and confirmed that there is NO need to do the port opening.

So anybody can come now!

Yepeee!!!

 

@1/SG2_Hummels