Bf 109 K-4 Skins

[Ouky1991]

My latest 109 K-4 skin + several G-10 variant. Credit goes to ICDP for his 2k template.

 

 

Download:

https://mega.nz/#!vHJ3SKRA!IRbUbqYg_mBc47qGzepRIs7aKxB-1VjUxNnUuHNBJg4

 

 

G-10 variant

 

Download:

https://mega.nz/#!GHAnTKDI!L9xpDjOoDvVOvwTUMolIFcw1pbSdK3echSP_qSIAkSo

 

 

G-10 Hartmann variant

 

Download:

https://mega.nz/#!2SoDnIaQ!TlcnY4egyVbwU07sA0BfbZ5RHdNY8nIlfOx37_Xxp5A

 

 

G-10 Gerhart Barkhorn variant

 

Download:

 https://mega.nz/#!nKoQgC5K!DehNAEghcr6MmMVmCueeOKBGwx9v0r8KsTD48ulIUZc

 

 

G-10 "Rosemarie"

 

Download:

https://mega.nz/#!if5URAbI!93mxcLOAd2T96nQVx78kGWGeIOH4crRhm-cH8nTDwZM

 

 Disclaimer                       All screenshots slightly edited to look like my reshade preset:  https://mega.nz/#!uXoTjAxD!_o7QkVtXLOhybupdSzfTJXx9xz5tq4dkFhvJuXhVMs8

                                           All screenshots taken with "Old sky color" mod installed.           https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/35425-mod-old-sky-color/

 

 

Edit: Some minor changes.

         Fixed fuel triangles

         Added G-10, updated K-4

         Added G-10 Hartmann

         Added G-10 Barkhorn

         Added Rosemarie

       

 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by LukeFF

[Luger1969]

Hi Ouky. Can you please put a link to mayby mediafire..dropbox ...or mega to download from please. Looks great btw.

[Ouky1991]

Thanks. I've done couple Spitfire IX skins before, check my profile if you're interested.

 

Alternative Bf109 K4 link above.

 

[Frenchy56]

The fuel triangles are wrong. It indicates C3 with the default engine (DB605 DB, B4 fuel) and B4 with the engine upgrade (DB605 DC, C3 fuel).

 

It should be the other way around.

Edited November 26, 2018 by Frenchy56

[Ouky1991]

They were part of official 2k template. Do you mean they should switch sides or are they upside down?

 

Edit: Never mind, I get it. I'll fix it later.

Edited November 26, 2018 by Ouky1991

[Hanu]

Wow! Really nice one! Thank you!

[Frenchy56]

4 minutes ago, Ouky1991 said:

They were part of official 2k template. Do you mean they should switch sides or are they upside down?

 

Edit: Never mind, I get it. I'll fix it later.

Nice, thank you.

[Ouky1991]

19 hours ago, Frenchy56 said:

Nice, thank you.

So is it supposed to be like this?

 

edit: Ok I understand now. I didn't realize it actually changed when you pick DC modification. Now it works just like official skins.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Ouky1991

[smink1701]

Really nice!  What do I owe you?

[Ouky1991]

6 hours ago, smink1701 said:

Really nice!  What do I owe you?

[Ouky1991]

I've added G-10 variant and updated K-4 with a few unnoticeable changes.

[sevenless]

15 minutes ago, Ouky1991 said:

I've added G-10 variant and updated K-4 with a few unnoticeable changes.

 

Very nice. Any plans to do this famous G-10 ?

 

http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-bf109g-10.html

 

http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-last-bf-109-g-10.html

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG52/pages/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G10-Erla-Stab-JG52-double-chevron-Gruppenkommandeur-Erich-Hartmann-Germany-1945-0A.html

Edited November 28, 2018 by sevenless

[Ouky1991]

30 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Very nice. Any plans to do this famous G-10 ?

 

http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-bf109g-10.html

 

http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-last-bf-109-g-10.html

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG52/pages/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G10-Erla-Stab-JG52-double-chevron-Gruppenkommandeur-Erich-Hartmann-Germany-1945-0A.html

 

I could try it. The nose is gonna be difficult since those spikes aren't in the template, hopefully they are in g-14 template. Anyway this might take longer.

[Kurfurst]

On 11/26/2018 at 12:50 PM, Frenchy56 said:

The fuel triangles are wrong. It indicates C3 with the default engine (DB605 DB, B4 fuel) and B4 with the engine upgrade (DB605 DC, C3 fuel).

 

It should be the other way around.

 

Also I do not think there should be a fuel triangle decal on the rear starboard side of the fuselage, it was only present on the port side (indicating the fuel filler point).

 

This is however present in the official skins as well so I am not sure it can be fixed. 

[Ouky1991]

1 hour ago, VO101Kurfurst said:

 

Also I do not think there should be a fuel triangle decal on the rear starboard side of the fuselage, it was only present on the port side (indicating the fuel filler point).

 

This is however present in the official skins as well so I am not sure it can be fixed. 

 

So this is corect look? I wasn't sure since like you said thay are in the game. There are more things like the blue/green stripe on the tail gut again I'm not sure which is correct so I went with version in the template.

[Hanu]

1 hour ago, Ouky1991 said:

 

I could try it. The nose is gonna be difficult since those spikes aren't in the template, hopefully they are in g-14 template. Anyway this might take longer.

 

I've been thinking to try to build a layer for that tulip also, but I gave up after spending many hours on Sharkmouth detail (which I use in my personal 109's). I don't have picture of K4 variant, but in G6 the older layer looked like this.  (Finnish Von Rosen crosses included, be warned :))

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ai1G8Nbf5lNHgoY7bURXAlUqj0zrQw

And it was painful enough to build. Perhaps some day I'll try to re-paint it from the scratch as there are lot of errors and bad outer lines.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Hanu

[Kurfurst]

1 hour ago, Ouky1991 said:

 

So this is corect look? I wasn't sure since like you said thay are in the game. There are more things like the blue/green stripe on the tail gut again I'm not sure which is correct so I went with version in the template.

 

 

Yes, more or less. It seems to miss the MW50 triangle on the port side.

 

These triangles were to instruct the ground crew where to feed (if you take a look at it, the triangle points to the filling opening of the tank - hence why C3 fuel triangle makes no sense near the tail, as there was no fuel tank or filler point there - the fuel tank was right behind the pilot, and was fed from the port, and the MW tank just behind the fuel tank, and was fed from the starboard side of the plane).

 

https://goo.gl/images/a9E3CK

 

The stripes on the tail were tactical designations and identified, IIRC the specific higher unit (Jagdgeschwader = Fighter Regiment) the fighter unit belonged to.

 

Symbols placed before the black cross identified higher ranking officiers, and symbols placed after the cross identified the Gruppe within the Geschwader. Similarly, the tactical numbers identified the plane, and their number's color the number of the Staffel white (1., 4., 7.) red (2.,5.,8., staffel) or yellow (3.,6,9). It made easy reference in the air.

 

Yellow on the underside of the wigntips or nose were just telling the AAA gunners that it's a friendly. Not that they cared. ?

 

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/markings.html

 

So in this case green tail band means the plane belongs to JG 27, < means it is flown by the Gruppe vice commander, | near the tail means its III. Gruppe (i.e. III/JG 27).

 

 

[Ouky1991]

On 11/28/2018 at 3:28 PM, VO101Kurfurst said:

 

Yes, more or less. It seems to miss the MW50 triangle on the port side.

 

These triangles were to instruct the ground crew where to feed (if you take a look at it, the triangle points to the filling opening of the tank - hence why C3 fuel triangle makes no sense near the tail, as there was no fuel tank or filler point there - the fuel tank was right behind the pilot, and was fed from the port, and the MW tank just behind the fuel tank, and was fed from the starboard side of the plane).

 

https://goo.gl/images/a9E3CK

 

The stripes on the tail were tactical designations and identified, IIRC the specific higher unit (Jagdgeschwader = Fighter Regiment) the fighter unit belonged to.

 

Symbols placed before the black cross identified higher ranking officiers, and symbols placed after the cross identified the Gruppe within the Geschwader. Similarly, the tactical numbers identified the plane, and their number's color the number of the Staffel white (1., 4., 7.) red (2.,5.,8., staffel) or yellow (3.,6,9). It made easy reference in the air.

 

Yellow on the underside of the wigntips or nose were just telling the AAA gunners that it's a friendly. Not that they cared. ?

 

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/markings.html

 

So in this case green tail band means the plane belongs to JG 27, < means it is flown by the Gruppe vice commander, | near the tail means its III. Gruppe (i.e. III/JG 27).

 

 

 

Link to version without fuel stencils on the right side: https://mega.nz/#!2XBjAC7a!6bLuqsEr3qZODZPW3SGexcsIuF6z6bM4pbsqK9GoojA

 

Hopefuly Hartmann is gonna be finished tomorrow, I'm pretty busy at the moment so maybe sunday.

[Ouky1991]

On 11/28/2018 at 11:00 AM, sevenless said:

 

Very nice. Any plans to do this famous G-10 ?

 

http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-bf109g-10.html

 

http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/09/erich-hartmanns-last-bf-109-g-10.html

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG52/pages/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G10-Erla-Stab-JG52-double-chevron-Gruppenkommandeur-Erich-Hartmann-Germany-1945-0A.html

 

I've eddited the first post with Hartmann's G-10.

[Frenchy56]

Do you think it's possible to make the additional landing gear covers invisible to make it look more like a G-10?

[Ouky1991]

2 hours ago, Frenchy56 said:

Do you think it's possible to make the additional landing gear covers invisible to make it look more like a G-10?

 

Maybe. I think alfa layer can do that I'll have a look.

2 hours ago, Frenchy56 said:

Do you think it's possible to make the additional landing gear covers invisible to make it look more like a G-10?

 Sorry I can only make it look like that when gear is up. Once you put gear down, the inner texture will make it visible and I don't see the inner texture in the tamplate.

[sevenless]

5 hours ago, Ouky1991 said:

 

I've eddited the first post with Hartmann's G-10.

 

Very cool. Thanks!

[Frenchy56]

Alright, but nice try. Maybe we can find that out later.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Frenchy56

[sevenless]

I have another suggestion. What about this one? Sorry I unfortunately have no higher res.

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Edited December 1, 2018 by sevenless

[Ouky1991]

1 hour ago, sevenless said:

I have another suggestion. What about this one? Sorry I unfortunately have no higher res.

Please take down that picture, swastikas are forbiden to post here they could lock this thread. Maybe If I find enough pictures I'll do that one eventually so thanks for suggestion but censor it next time.

 

 

 

I've update all 3 skins hopefully last time. I keep finding mistakes and can't help it.?

Edited December 1, 2018 by Ouky1991

[sevenless]

38 minutes ago, Ouky1991 said:

Please take down that picture, swastikas are forbiden to post here they could lock this thread. Maybe If I find enough pictures I'll do that one eventually so thanks for suggestion but censor it next time.

 

 

 

I've update all 3 skins hopefully last time. I keep finding mistakes and can't help it.?

 

Uups Ouky, I´ve hidden them. Sorry.

[Ouky1991]

22 hours ago, sevenless said:

I have another suggestion. What about this one? Sorry I unfortunately have no higher res.

 

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Here it is: https://mega.nz/#!nKoQgC5K!DehNAEghcr6MmMVmCueeOKBGwx9v0r8KsTD48ulIUZc

 

[Ouky1991]

I've added another skin (edit in first post) https://mega.nz/#!if5URAbI!93mxcLOAd2T96nQVx78kGWGeIOH4crRhm-cH8nTDwZM

 

Edited December 3, 2018 by Ouky1991

[E69_julian57]

Skin 4k  BF109 k-4  14/JG 53  15 black

thanks ICDP.

 

Spoiler

 

Download

https://mega.nz/#!QugWGIhC!2lYnj2cBNDd3BDpvMZTpktIbSjBz5txGF3DgvPOdz9E

Edited December 3, 2018 by E69_julian57

[E69_julian57]

 

On 12/1/2018 at 1:10 PM, Frenchy56 said:

Do you think it's possible to make the additional landing gear covers invisible to make it look more like a G-10?

 

I think it can be done in the alpha channel

If you have a photo or profile, I can try.

[FurphyForum]

5 hours ago, Ouky1991 said:

I've added another skin (edit in first post) https://mega.nz/#!if5URAbI!93mxcLOAd2T96nQVx78kGWGeIOH4crRhm-cH8nTDwZM

 

@Ouky1991, Well done, but do you have any info on the skin, from what unit it now represents, is it an ex JG53 or 77.

 

Cheers.

[Ouky1991]

6 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

 

 

I think it can be done in the alpha channel

If you have a photo or profile, I can try.

 

Have a look couple posts above. I tried but the inner texture isn't part of the template, It will look fine as long as gear stays up. 

 

6 hours ago, FurphyForum said:

@Ouky1991, Well done, but do you have any info on the skin, from what unit it now represents, is it an ex JG53 or 77.

 

Cheers.

  

Here's some info https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/219147-WIP-Bf-109G-10-Rosemarie-II-JG52

[Yankee_One]

9 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Skin 4k  BF109 k-4  14/JG 53  15 black

thanks ICDP.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Download

https://mega.nz/#!QugWGIhC!2lYnj2cBNDd3BDpvMZTpktIbSjBz5txGF3DgvPOdz9E

 

 

Hi Julian,

 

first of all thank you for this skin.  I like it.

 

Its well done but the swastika is too big and wide in my eyes. Its strange.

Hope you dont mind that i poited this out. Its no criticism from my side.

 

S!

[Frenchy56]

11 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

 

 

I think it can be done in the alpha channel

If you have a photo or profile, I can try.

 

 

It's all I could find. I'm going to look some more for pictures where the gear is up. Maybe you could use the G-14 as reference for that.

 

EDIT: This should do:

Edited December 4, 2018 by Frenchy56

[sevenless]

5 minutes ago, Frenchy56 said:

 

 

It's all I could find. I'm going to look some more for pictures where the gear is up. Maybe you could use the G-14 as reference for that.

 

EDIT: This should do:

 

Very nice suggestions.

[Madcop]

2 hours ago, Yankee_One said:

 

 

Hi Julian,

 

first of all thank you for this skin.  I like it.

 

Its well done but the swastika is too big and wide in my eyes. Its strange.

Hope you dont mind that i poited this out. Its no criticism from my side.

 

S!

 

"For your eyes only" Yankee, for your eyes only ! Compared with the picture of THIS aircraft I think that Julian is correct. Again and again look at the pic , not at the profile from T Dekker.

Look at the tip of the  XXXX cross that is aligned with the top of the rudder hinge as well as the bottom that is aligned with the tailplane fairing. All this seem correct "for my eyes" at least.

 

Madcop

 

P.S. What is more a problem for me are the wrong panel lines of the cowling and the cuff rivetted in front of the windshield, but I think ICDP is working on that.

Also there shouldn't be any mention of Wasser Methanol 50/50 on the left side of the cowling, and on the right side a second (old) circular access panel should be added below the one already represented. As the K4 was a "new" airframe  there shouldn't be any differences between airframes built by Messerschmitt. K4 models were not built or rebuilt from existing airframes like the G10 for example.

Erla produced K4 should be different as far as the nose and oil radiator are concerned  but there is only one known example  !

 

 

[Yankee_One]

First of all,

 

i didnt asked you for your opinion Madcop.

 

Everybody see things different, it depends from your point of view.

 

Second, i know Julian, he made skins for me.

 

If my point of view is incorrect, he tells me. He is the one who makes skins mate, not you

Edited December 4, 2018 by Yankee_One

[[I./JG62]steppa]

WIP

A Bf 109 K4      W.Nr. 332660      9./JG 53

 

Up to this point i did guess how the aircraft right side looks; colours are from ICDPs template

 

If you have detailed information about this Plane please feel free to share it, thanks.

 

Question: Where do i find the shadow of the antenna under the left wing? I included a picture of the area of interest.

 

 

 

Spoiler

  Many thanks to all the dedicated people providing the great templates and all the other resources, especially ICDP, detcord, rafiger and gustav from whom i used parts. Thank you.

Edited December 4, 2018 by [I./JG62]steppa

[E69_julian57]

Hello Yankee_one and Madcop.
After looking a lot at the photo I reduced the haken
because it does not exactly reach the junction with the plane of the tail, as I see it.  
Actually I reduced the haken something else, but in the end I left the haken of the ICDP template.
When it comes to seeing a blurry picture, we can see different things.
And I appreciate all the comments.

Download

https://mega.nz/#!wrBnGQqK!hhcT4fFk79PmtdJJFpV9bTXHA3iaabnToqjR7ui6uno

 

Spoiler

 

[ICDP]

20 hours ago, Madcop said:

What is more a problem for me are the wrong panel lines of the cowling and the cuff rivetted in front of the windshield, but I think ICDP is working on that.

Also there shouldn't be any mention of Wasser Methanol 50/50 on the left side of the cowling, and on the right side a second (old) circular access panel should be added below the one already represented. As the K4 was a "new" airframe  there shouldn't be any differences between airframes built by Messerschmitt. K4 models were not built or rebuilt from existing airframes like the G10 for example.

Erla produced K4 should be different as far as the nose and oil radiator are concerned  but there is only one known example  !

 

 

 

 

Hi Madcop,

I have looked at the additional circular port on the right side of the nose but some 3 views have conflicting positions.  One show it right below the current one, another shows it below and slightly aft of the current one.

 

There is also a larger circular port on the left side behind the cockpit and just above the footplate.  Though this looks like it is not always present.  I can add it as an optional port.

 

Also could you elaborate on the cuff rivetted in front of the windshield please?