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54 minutes ago, von_Tom said:

OMG that is surreal.  Hands up if you have to hide the receipts or at least fudge how much IT costs!


Tom these guys are in a different league from us mortals, the classic "my biggest fear of death is that mu missus will sell my stuff for what I told her it cost" comes to mind.

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I have a 1080 Ti, IL2 is my main sim, and runs pretty good, smooth and at ultra settings in VR(no mirrors though).

i 7 8700 k overclocked at 5.0

 

Will a 2080Ti make a noticeable difference? maybe just a bit?

 

What about when I buy a Pimax 5K +? Will take more advantage  of the 2080 Ti than the 1080Ti.

Here is my reasoning, I can sell my 1080 Ti for more now than in 2 years.

The 2080Ti might not be replaced in 2 years, but will their prices stay where they are or go down?

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2 hours ago, II./JG77_motoadve said:

I have a 1080 Ti, IL2 is my main sim, and runs pretty good, smooth and at ultra settings in VR(no mirrors though).

i 7 8700 k overclocked at 5.0

 

Will a 2080Ti make a noticeable difference? maybe just a bit?

 

What about when I buy a Pimax 5K +? Will take more advantage  of the 2080 Ti than the 1080Ti.

Here is my reasoning, I can sell my 1080 Ti for more now than in 2 years.

The 2080Ti might not be replaced in 2 years, but will their prices stay where they are or go down?

 

I don't think enough folks have a 2080 Ti yet to give a fair comparison.

Maybe in the next week or two we will have a better picture.

Hoping to have mine here in the next few days.

 

I am currently gathering parts for my new build, so undecided whether I will go ahead and throw it in this rig or not.

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Posted
4 hours ago, II./JG77_motoadve said:

What about when I buy a Pimax 5K +? Will take more advantage  of the 2080 Ti than the 1080Ti.

 

 i think it will be highly likely that the 2080 ti will take better advantage of the Pimax 5k than the 1080ti. 

For any pixel pushing operations which dont need a CPU the 2080ti will be better than the 1080 ti

Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, II./JG77_motoadve said:

I have a 1080 Ti, IL2 is my main sim, and runs pretty good, smooth and at ultra settings in VR(no mirrors though).

i 7 8700 k overclocked at 5.0

 

I sort of don't believe you. I have an 8086k clocked at 5.0 with a 2080 (1080ti equivalent) and I get pushed down into 45 FPS when close to the ground, because of how CPU hungry IL2 is. And that's in Balanced or High settings.

 

Anyhow, in order to answer your question on 2080ti vs 1080ti: I don't think you'll see a lot of improvement. If you want to turn up the supersample, the 30% extra power in the 2080ti will let you do that, but you're still going to be CPU bound for the most part. As for the Pimax, unfortunately the answer is still "we don't know" because all the YouTubers with Pimaxes are running 15ms CPU frame times and getting 60-70 FPS in the Pimax. They need to crank down their settings in order to hit sub-11ms CPU frame times before they can really tell if their GPU is capable. Actually I guess it's 12ms for 80 FPS in the Pimax but same difference.

 

I upgraded from a 1070 to a 2080, and frankly would have saved a bunch of money and gotten identical IL2 VR performance by going to the 2070 instead.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Alonzo_ said:

 

I sort of don't believe you. I have an 8086k clocked at 5.0 with a 2080 (1080ti equivalent) and I get pushed down into 45 FPS when close to the ground, because of how CPU hungry IL2 is. And that's in Balanced or High settings.

 

Anyhow, in order to answer your question on 2080ti vs 1080ti: I don't think you'll see a lot of improvement. If you want to turn up the supersample, the 30% extra power in the 2080ti will let you do that, but you're still going to be CPU bound for the most part. As for the Pimax, unfortunately the answer is still "we don't know" because all the YouTubers with Pimaxes are running 15ms CPU frame times and getting 60-70 FPS in the Pimax. They need to crank down their settings in order to hit sub-11ms CPU frame times before they can really tell if their GPU is capable. Actually I guess it's 12ms for 80 FPS in the Pimax but same difference.

 

I upgraded from a 1070 to a 2080, and frankly would have saved a bunch of money and gotten identical IL2 VR performance by going to the 2070 instead.

What SS you use?

Honestly , mine is pretty smooth, no complains here.

I turn prop off , so do not de activate ASW

AA in game 4X and SS the recommended setting from Oculus

Posted (edited)

Here we have comparison for several games which are not CPU limited (some of them with very nice CPU frametimes in 3ms!!).

He promised to do similar tests for flight simulators (hopefully IL-2). If he do that he would really need to put Settings at the very Low to have CPU frametimes in the range of 6-7 ms, so he can do a fair comparison.

I think that even for those games upgrading from 1080Ti to 2080Ti is not worth the money.

 

 

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VBF-12_Stick-95
Posted (edited)

Below is a good summary of SweViver's video done by sk1. 

 

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Thanks SweViver, you really are fantastic and we appreciate you very much.

 

I'm going to change what I said earlier and suggest this is a worthwhile upgrade if anyone can afford it.

 

You answered a question I was going to ask you - namely, would you keep it? Yes you would. So that says it all really. Yes it may not be worth the extra, but really is anything in VR "worth" it? The powerful PC, the expensive VR system, the games, the dedicated roomspace? Overall that's costing several thousand $$$$s so when you see it like that to spend a little more to get the absolute best experience is probably worth it.

 

Going through your excellent video again this is what I've noted down from the things you said:

 

Arizona Sunshine: 1080Ti even on Pi1.0 cant' really play it. 2080Ti.. can play now. Summary: can't play ---> can play

 

Onward: 1080Ti: great in 1.0 and 1.25, down to about 70fps in 1.5 2080Ti: same really but get more FPS in Pi1.5 Summary: probably smoother experience at Pi1.5 (I suspect if going large FOV it would be playable at 1.25 but unplayable on the 1080Ti at any Pi setting. But that's just a guess)

 

Contagion: 1080Ti : really only playable at Pi1.0 at full FPS, can do 1.25 but lower FPS. 2080Ti: everything bumped up so 1.25 is fine and now 1.5 is playable. Summary: can go from Pi1.25 to 1.5 now

 

Skyrim: 1080Ti: only has 90fps at Pi1.0 and even then you say it seems like it's struggling despite the numbers 2080Ti: even at Pi at 1.25 it's "butter smooth" and even at 1.5 still very good Summary: 1080Ti struggles even on lowest setting... 2080Ti buttery smooth even at high quality settings.

 

FO4VR: 1080Ti "not playable" at all 2080Ti: "can enjoy". FPS from 50s to 60s, now is doable Summary: unplayable --> playable

 

Forest: 1080Ti: forget it 2080Ti: Pi1.0 FPS 60s... "kind of playable" Summary: unplayable --> playable

 

Serious Sam 3: 1080Ti Pi 1.0 ok. higehr settings "playable but not enjoyable". 2080Ti Pi1.0-1.5: GREAT 67% FPS increase! Summary: massive increase. from playable at low settings to great at highest settings

 

Seeking Dawn: 1080Ti: crap 2080Ti: not great but FPS 60s, .. doable Summary: unplayable --> playable

 

Hellblade: 1080Ti: basically shit 2080Ti: Pi1.0 FPS76-90, pretty good. Pi1.25 FPS 60ish, playable and "looks good"... playable Summary: shit --> playable at a level that looks good

 

Superhot: 1080Ti: Great! but dips at higher Pi settings. 2080Ti: "RUNS LIKE A DREAM" Summary: good --> dreamlike

 

Ok so numbers may not seem great but when you analyse the above you see the effect in real life....

 

=======================

 

CONCLUSION:

 

40% games: unplayable --> playable
40% games: shit --> ok/good
10% games: good --> amazing
10% games: not much difference

 

In other words.... significant noticeable improvement in 90% of games.

 

Not the sort of improvement where you go "wow this card is a beast I can play anything at any level now!" but in pragmatic terms the sort of increase where there is a material significant quantum leap in experience in 90% of games.

 

For that reason alone it's possibly worth it if you can afford it.

 

Bear in mind also:
- drivers will be optimised to give even better improvements
- clearly some games if written properly can gain massively from the 2080Ti for some reason (i.e. Serious Sam's 67% increase!).. so look out for games where you'll notice a much better increase, even without DLSS (I'm assuming SS3 has no DLSS).
-debatable but I strongly believe with 9900K / Zen 2 some of these games will do even better and the benefits will be clearer with 2080Ti
basically... things can only get better.

 

Right... sorry for the rant but if you look at this way it may well be worth it. And again, I know I'm just trying to convince myself to get a new toy... but I might have succeeded haha.

 

link:  http://forum.pimaxvr.com/t/sweviver-rtx-2080-ti-vs-gtx-1080-ti-on-pimax-5k-vr-game-benchmarks/9361/53

 

SweViver's response to sk1's analysis:

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Your whole analysis is excellent, thank you so much for taking your time doing it mate. I think everyone in here should read it and consider these facts. I wish I could have put it together that nice as a summary at the end of the video

 

Thank you!

 

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Posted
15 hours ago, II./JG77_motoadve said:

What SS you use?

 

I've tried a bunch of different options. Currently I'm using 4x in-game AA and 1.2 supersample (in OTT, so ~144% SteamVR equivalent). The GPU is barely noticing the load, it's like 60% most of the time. I could push the SS up but there's not a lot of point, game already looks pretty sweet.

Posted
16 hours ago, Alonzo_ said:

 

I sort of don't believe you. I have an 8086k clocked at 5.0 with a 2080 (1080ti equivalent) and I get pushed down into 45 FPS when close to the ground, because of how CPU hungry IL2 is. And that's in Balanced or High settings.

 

Anyhow, in order to answer your question on 2080ti vs 1080ti: I don't think you'll see a lot of improvement. If you want to turn up the supersample, the 30% extra power in the 2080ti will let you do that, but you're still going to be CPU bound for the most part. As for the Pimax, unfortunately the answer is still "we don't know" because all the YouTubers with Pimaxes are running 15ms CPU frame times and getting 60-70 FPS in the Pimax. They need to crank down their settings in order to hit sub-11ms CPU frame times before they can really tell if their GPU is capable. Actually I guess it's 12ms for 80 FPS in the Pimax but same difference.

 

I upgraded from a 1070 to a 2080, and frankly would have saved a bunch of money and gotten identical IL2 VR performance by going to the 2070 instead.

 

He probably just means its all good for him. I've noticed lately that on the VIVE IL-2 performance is really smooth and I've pushed steam VR PD up to 1.85. I'm in reprojection alot of the time but I dont know if I am just imagining it and it has always been like this, but lately it seems very smooth.

 

9 hours ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

Below is a good summary of SweViver's video done by sk1. 

 

 

link:  http://forum.pimaxvr.com/t/sweviver-rtx-2080-ti-vs-gtx-1080-ti-on-pimax-5k-vr-game-benchmarks/9361/53

 

SweViver's response to sk1's analysis:

 

 Dont understand to be honest alot of those games he classed as 'unplayable' on 1080 Ti seem to work fine for me. I guess I have lower standards! 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

He probably just means its all good for him. I've noticed lately that on the VIVE IL-2 performance is really smooth and I've pushed steam VR PD up to 1.85. I'm in reprojection alot of the time but I dont know if I am just imagining it and it has always been like this, but lately it seems very smooth.

 

 

I have noticed of late I am getting better performance in my Rift also for some reason.

Been flying the Spit over Kuban in both Career Mode and in PWCG, pretty sure my performance in it is about the best it has been.

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VBF-12_Stick-95
Posted
5 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

 Dont understand to be honest alot of those games he classed as 'unplayable' on 1080 Ti seem to work fine for me. I guess I have lower standards! 

 

I think he is referring to playing on the Pimax only.

Posted
4 hours ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

 

I think he is referring to playing on the Pimax only.

 

Ah got ya!

Posted
On 10/20/2018 at 7:04 AM, dburne said:

 

I have noticed of late I am getting better performance in my Rift also for some reason.

Been flying the Spit over Kuban in both Career Mode and in PWCG, pretty sure my performance in it is about the best it has been.

 

Steam VR has had alot of updates and new features lately. Wondering if that has something to do with it...

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On 10/19/2018 at 6:54 AM, II./JG77_motoadve said:

I turn prop off , so do not de activate ASW

 

That´s the different performance for JG77_motodave (with ASW ON, so CPU not limiting factor) and Alonzo (with ASW OFF).

 

On 10/19/2018 at 1:25 PM, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

Below is a good summary of SweViver's video done by sk1

 

It is a bit surprising how sk1 reformulate the words and play with the facts. It looks like written by the marketing department of NVIDIA.   :mda:

The definition of "playable" vs.  "not playable" is very subjective. 

In fact I didn´t listen too much to the audio description but putting more focus in the fps improvement it was delivering. Not impressive.

I have no real limitation on budget for upgrading my rig, so for me it is not a question of the cost. I will order right now an 2080Ti if I will see that it will improve significantly my experience with IL-2 VR. But since IL-2 VR is CPU limited, any extra GPU expenditure would be worthless.

Let´s see if Sweviver produces the comparison for IL-2 with Pimax 5K+.

 

Posted

Received my EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra late yesterday.

Have a couple of doc appts during the day today, may try to get it in my rig in between. 

 

Was thinking about holding off till I had rest of parts for my new build, but curiosity may be getting to me. Waiting on the i9 9900k pre-order I have in, and for the EVGA Z390 Dark MB to become available, not sure how long those will be.

Posted
28 minutes ago, dburne said:

Was thinking about holding off till I had rest of parts for my new build, but curiosity may be getting to me. Waiting on the i9 9900k pre-order I have in, and for the EVGA Z390 Dark MB to become available, not sure how long those will be.

 

The 2080ti is about a 30-40% raw power boost over your current 1080ti, so I suspect you'll get similar results to my 1070 - 2080 upgrade -- you can crank the AA and SS up a bunch more (which is lovely eye candy) but some parts of the game are still going to be highly CPU limited. Right now I'm flying on High with the Migoto mod enabled and just accepting 45 fps ASW for some parts such as runway/takeoff and areas with lots of player activity.

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Posted

A thousand bucks on a scratched table.

Decadent lifestyle, isn't it? :acute:

 

:drinks:

Mike

Posted (edited)

Lol it may be scratched, but I love my solid wood desk!

 

 

 

 

And she's in...

 

 

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Nice card and a equally nice (teak?) desk. Let us know how it performs once you’ve had a chance to try a few titles.

Posted (edited)

What a cool brick!. It is sooo large and tick compared to the 1080Ti.

For few more dollars It deserves to buy a game with RrayTracing tech  :biggrin:

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said:

What a cool brick!. It is sooo large and tick compared to the 1080Ti.

For few more dollars It deserves to buy a game with RrayTracing tech  :biggrin:

 

Yeah it is like a 2.5 or 2.75 slot card.

Definitely big. Those three ICX fans sound at least a little bit quieter than the three on my 1080 Ti when running at 100%.

Did a few minutes run with Precision OC Scanner, it handled it fine and temps were good. 

 

Trying to get my arms wrapped around the new Precision X1 software for the 20 series cards. Plus I have to get a DVI to Display Port adapter for my main monitor, this card does not have a DVI port. HDMI, Display Port, and a Virtual Link C-Port. Ordered one from Amazon and it will be here tomorrow. I use the one HDMI for the Rift.

 

Will probably be tomorrow afternoon anyway before I get a chance to really check it out in IL-2. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, dburne said:

 Plus I have to get a DVI to Display Port adapter for my main monitor, this card does not have a DVI port. HDMI, Display Port, and a Virtual Link C-Port.

 

Lol next thing to upgrade is the monitor? Looking through the evga pics i thought they came with a DVI adapter

 

Hope you enjoy the card looking forward to another opinion as I am still on the fence

Posted

Will it fit where the 1080 Ti was? Since it is larger I am wondering.

Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, II./JG77_motoadve said:

Will it fit where the 1080 Ti was? Since it is larger I am wondering.

 

I had no problem with mine, but had some unoccupied PCIe slots just below the first PCIe slot that I plugged the GPU into.

It is a monster of a card no doubt. At least my FTW3 Ultra is.

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Posted (edited)

Well have had time to fly a couple of my PWCG missions with the new EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra card.

 

There certainly is some improvement, but not a lot. Certainly not what I would have liked to see.  

I think with my current rig, it just can't feed enough to the card. My clock speeds and temps are good, but GPU usage is around 50-58% in the air, down low like landing/takeoff it is more like 35-38%.

 

Maybe when I get my new rig built here soon - i9 9900k and Z390 MB with faster ram, it will improve for me some more - will see.

Going to play next with upping some graphic settings, and SS, and see how she does. Have yet to test DCS also.

 

Edit: I upped my graphics from High to Ultra, and increased SS from 1.4 to 1.5.

GPU utilization went up by a small amount - around 63-65% in the air, and performance did not decrease.

Very smooth and good experience overall even in heavy furball.

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, dburne said:

aybe when I get my new rig built here soon - i9 9900k and Z390 MB with faster ram, it will improve for me some more - will see.

My bets are against it. Well a little maybe, but very much of the same. Unless you fly VR and are just right on the edge of having a smooth FPS or not, I doubt you will notice much. OC eight cores will get very tedious. I've OC'd my 7900X to 4.9GHz, wher i would boot Windows and run the game, however it will not run Handbrake lest Prime95. But I will produce something like 300+ Watts heat. The game performance difference to 4.7 GHz on 3 cores are marginal. The step from a 4770K @4.6 GHz was also very small, below noticeable with both a Nvidia 1080 on 1440p.

 

But if you get that CPU, make sure you run of @chiliwili69's tracks and send him the FPS measurements! I'd love to be proven wrong. ;)

 

 

Posted

I have the 9900k on Pre-Order with Amazon.

Mainly waiting on it along with the release of the EVGA Z390 Dark MB to do my new build.

 

Still have not tested other VR games yet, will hopefully be doing so this weekend.

I do like that I was able to up my graphics some in IL-2 and still have good performance.

Posted

I got the 2080 EVGA XC Ultra and it’s a 2.75-slot card like this one—it’s probably overkill but it’s a very cool hard and handles OC really nicely.

 

Congrats on your card @dburne I know you had it on preorder for a while.

Posted
2 hours ago, Alonzo said:

I got the 2080 EVGA XC Ultra and it’s a 2.75-slot card like this one—it’s probably overkill but it’s a very cool hard and handles OC really nicely.

 

Congrats on your card @dburne I know you had it on preorder for a while.

 

Thanks much, yes I am looking forward to getting this new rig built soon as I can get the CPU and MB.

 

Congrats on your card as well!

Posted (edited)

I think I see a little better improvement in DCS with the 2080 Ti. Granted still not huge by any means.

It seems to get a little better GPU utilization, like in the 70-90% range.

I was also able to increase some graphics settings along with PD without much cost to performance, and still again very smooth.

So while I am not enjoying greatly increased fps in these two combat flight sims, I am enjoying a very smooth experience with increased graphics somewhat.

 

So now I just wait till I can get all the parts for my new i9 build here soon. Really looking forward to seeing how VR does for me once I have the new rig running.

I have other games I play that I will be testing also, hoping for a larger improvement with those.

 

But for just flight simming in VR, if you already have a 1080 Ti just hang on to that puppy. Too much money for too little gain for VR in flight sims IMHO.

And if you are running a 980 or below, for VR the 1080 Ti would be a very nice upgrade for you.  At a lot less money.

 

 

 

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Aloha-Snackbar
Posted
15 hours ago, dburne said:

I think I see a little better improvement in DCS with the 2080 Ti. Granted still not huge by any means.

It seems to get a little better GPU utilization, like in the 70-90% range.

I was also able to increase some graphics settings along with PD without much cost to performance, and still again very smooth.

So while I am not enjoying greatly increased fps in these two combat flight sims, I am enjoying a very smooth experience with increased graphics somewhat.

 

So now I just wait till I can get all the parts for my new i9 build here soon. Really looking forward to seeing how VR does for me once I have the new rig running.

I have other games I play that I will be testing also, hoping for a larger improvement with those.

 

But for just flight simming in VR, if you already have a 1080 Ti just hang on to that puppy. Too much money for too little gain for VR in flight sims IMHO.

And if you are running a 980 or below, for VR the 1080 Ti would be a very nice upgrade for you.  At a lot less money.

 

 

 

Would be my estimate too: that DCS benefits more from the upgrade than IL2. I went from a 1080 to a 2080ti though, i Believe you had a 1080ti?

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Aloha-Snackbar said:

Would be my estimate too: that DCS benefits more from the upgrade than IL2. I went from a 1080 to a 2080ti though, i Believe you had a 1080ti?

 

 

 

Yes I went from EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Elite, to EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra.

Posted
17 hours ago, dburne said:

But for just flight simming in VR, if you already have a 1080 Ti just hang on to that puppy. Too much money for too little gain for VR in flight sims IMHO.

And if you are running a 980 or below, for VR the 1080 Ti would be a very nice upgrade for you.  At a lot less money.

 

For flight simming in VR you might even be fine with a 1080 (non-ti) or 2070 (new generation equivalent). I'm fairly happy with my decision to go from 1070 to 2080, but you could argue I'd be doing better overall with a 2070 + (say) MFG Crosswinds for the same money (I have the Saitek pedals, and while they are okay they are not great).

Posted (edited)
44 minutes ago, Alonzo said:

 

For flight simming in VR you might even be fine with a 1080 (non-ti) or 2070 (new generation equivalent). I'm fairly happy with my decision to go from 1070 to 2080, but you could argue I'd be doing better overall with a 2070 + (say) MFG Crosswinds for the same money (I have the Saitek pedals, and while they are okay they are not great).

 

Yeah don't get me wrong, I am happy with my new card as it did allow me to increase some visuals  and still maintain very good performance. I could not do that with the 1080 Ti.

Just strictly from a fps perspective, not too much difference. I would have liked to have seen more there.

I don't think my cpu is feeding it as good, and the older slower ram starting to show.

 

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Posted

Thanks for the feedback dburne - think I am gonna stick with 1080 ti for now and see how RTX pans out.

 

I think we are just at the point where more PC grunt is not making any difference with these older game engines 

☹️

Posted
4 minutes ago, kevman said:

Thanks for the feedback dburne - think I am gonna stick with 1080 ti for now and see how RTX pans out.

 

I think we are just at the point where more PC grunt is not making any difference with these older game engines 

☹️

 

Well here's the thing. I think sometimes we get too fixated on fps numbers rather than the overall experience for VR.

There is not system today, not even close, that will give a full 90 fps in what we do at all times. I do get it up high and when not a lot around me.

So we turn ASW off to see what we are actually getting in fps. 

 

So yes by going to the 2080 Ti I did not gain very much in actual fps. But what I did gain, was the ability to increase my graphics some along with SS and get a better

visual. I am flying at Ultra now and it is looking really good. And while my fps are typically somewhere between 45 and 90 , still the experience is smooth as it can be and very pleasurable.

In fact I prefer to fly with ASW off so I don't get the artifacts by having it enabled.

 

And it is gorgeous, and very smooth. 

I would imagine for most though, that bit of better detail while still being very smooth would not justify the high price of these new cards. I was getting just as good and smooth performance with the 1080 Ti, just with a little lower settings on the graphics. 

 

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Posted
18 hours ago, dburne said:

some along with SS

 

How much did you increased SS?

 

Regarding High vs Ultra, what you are doing is loading more the CPU, not the GPU. (the presets Low-Balanced-High-Ultra) affects two things:

- Diameter of buble in the detail range (this needs to be calculated by CPU and redenred by GPU)

- Number of particle in special effects (smoke, fire, etc) (this loads CPU)

Posted
12 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

How much did you increased SS?

 

Regarding High vs Ultra, what you are doing is loading more the CPU, not the GPU. (the presets Low-Balanced-High-Ultra) affects two things:

- Diameter of buble in the detail range (this needs to be calculated by CPU and redenred by GPU)

- Number of particle in special effects (smoke, fire, etc) (this loads CPU)

 

SS 1.3 to 1.5

 

All I can say about Ultra now instead of High, is I can run it and still maintain my performance I have been getting.

Also increased draw distance from 70km-100km.

Pretty sure I am seeing more clouds now in Ultra also...

 

I experienced the same in DCS, not much a jump in fps but able to load little more graphics details into it and maintain same performance. I also increased it's PD from 1.3-1.5.

 

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