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:good::fly:

 

PM Sent. ( DO NOT be afraid !)

Madcop

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[WIP] Focke Wulf 190 A-8/R2 (Museum Berlin - Gatow)

 

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The FW190 A-8/R2 were found in the year 2003 in Pulheim close to Cologne. The Plane was flown by Lt. Rolf Lahne.

 

Detailed Information about the plane and the pilot you can find here (german language):

 

http://www.daedalus-berlin.de/Fw190A8.htm

 

I am working at the 4k skins of this plane. I made over 200 pictures of this plane to make the skins as realistic as possible.

You can see at the pictures there is no gloss at the plane and the colors are very bright in the sunlight.  

The difference between the grey and the green is barely visible in the sunlight.

The details of the fuselage are also barely visible because of the painting.

I made a slideshow (with german comments) with a lot of pictures of the plane and on the right side you can see the first steps of the skin in IL2 BoX.

 

 

The work is in progress but i´m gonna spend a lot of time to make the skin as close to the original as i can (to see this beautiful bird also in the virtual sky :) ) 

 

greetz from cologne

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7 hours ago, LesG said:

[WIP] Focke Wulf 190 A-8/R2 (Museum Berlin - Gatow)

 

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The FW190 A-8/R2 were found in the year 2003 in Pulheim close to Cologne. The Plane was flown by Lt. Rolf Lahne.

 

 

 

Looking forward to your skin, however:

  • Fw 190 A-8/R2: Jäger mit zwei internen 30-mm-MK 108 im Außenflügel

Was the 190 modified during restoration? Looks like it has 4 x 20mm MG 151 ??? in the vid.

 

Keep up the good work!

 

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Was the 190 modified during restoration? Looks like it has 4 x 20mm MG 151 ??? in the vid.

 

No, look here 

 

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Look at the difference between the inner radius.

The outer radius is nearly the same.

 

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20mm

 

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30mm

 

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Its difficult to see at the pictures but if you are standing in front of the plane you see the difference.

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14 hours ago, Psyrion said:

@LesG Freu mich schon drauf! 

 

....und ich erst. :)

 

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Da geht echt ein Traum in Erfüllung so viele Bilder zur Verfügung zu haben um einen Skin zu machen der das Orginal zu fast 100% wiedergibt (bis auf die Abweichungen durch die Rendering Engine aber damit muss man leben).

Ich habe 2- 3 Stunden, bei besten Lichtverhältnissen (es war ein strahlender Sonnentag) vor diesem Flugzeug gestanden und habe mir jede Schattierung der Oberfläche angeschaut und wie sie auf den Lichteinfall reagiert wenn ich meine Position veränderte. Die Sonne fiel durch die großen Fenster oben in der Halle direkt auf die Oberfläche der FW. Ich hatte sogar massive Probleme die Maschine von vorne zu fotografieren wegen des Gegenlichts und bin dann zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt nochmal zurück gegangen und habe dann erst die Fotos von vorne gemacht.

Die Oberfläche ist vollkommen stumpf und matt und von Reflexionen ist da überhaupt keine Spur zu sehen. Ganz im Gegenteil man hat sogar das Gefühl dass der graue, stumpfe Lack das Licht teilweise absorbiert je nachdem aus welchem Winkel man schaut. Auch die Details der Rumpfstruktur werden überwiegend verdeckt. Schon wenn du nur wenige Meter von der Maschine entfernt stehst siehst du kaum noch Fugen oder Kanten geschweigen denn Nieten oder sowas. 

Die FW wirkt dann wie aus einem Guss und nur noch an der Motorhaube sieht man noch die Stoßkanten der Motorabdeckung. Das war der totale Wahnsinn dass mal so deutlich und in real zu sehen.   

So wie sie dort steht werde ich den Skin auch umsetzen und alle Effekte (Witterung, Rumpfstrukturdetails, Nieten etc.) so reduzieren bis der Skin die Maschine genauso darstellt wie man sie dort sehen kann. 

Ob das "werksfrisch" oder "nicht authentisch" ist sollte dabei keinen Anlass zu Diskussionen geben weil das gar nicht mein Kerngedanke bei dem Skin ist. 

Die Kiste genauso machen wie sie da steht das ist alles was ich möchte. 

 

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The quality of the movie was very bad. Something was wrong during the rendering process. I rendered a new one and here is the new movie (better quality)

 

 

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@LesG

 

I'm afraid you're wrong. It is a 20mm MG 151/20 barrel, the 30mm Mk 108 had a considerably shorter gun barrel which did not stick out of the wing's leading edge as much. The restauration was thusly done as an ordinary Fw 190 A-8 ...

 

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This is what an Mk 108 installation in a Fw 190 A-8/R2 looks like.  Notice the considerably shorter barrel?

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Ok - iam not an expert with the weapons systems of the FW190. 

I thought that the wing cannons where a little bit bigger - my fault.

Maybe i was distracted by the shaping and the color animierte-smilies-liebe-erotik-025.gif

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Ist ja auch kein Verbrechen. :biggrin:

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Eben - jeder hat ja so seine Vorlieben und bei mir sind es halt Formen und Farben.

 

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Skin 4k Fw 190 A-8  JG 26  Priller.

 

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Download in next post

 

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A classic.

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Actualización, esto faltaba.
Mis ojos fallan, lo siento.

 

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Update included in the last post

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Beautiful work mate

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13 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

update, this was missing.
My eyes fail, I'm sorry.

 

 

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Download

https://mega.nz/#!IyZ1hQxK!E4aCbWveQK8QqeCalJzdbuyyEFotG4g6AIK4G555L0A

 

Hi Julian … you are becoming an expert, but be careful because while your brain is focused on looking for the tiniest detail it will prevent  you to notice  what appears to me to be glaring in this picture ! Don't panic your eyes are still very good, it's only your brain that is playing with you.

Have a look back at your main picture where Pips is climbing out of his aircraft…. Don't you notice anything weird  ? ( in the vicinity of your discovered  painted out "SU" )

Look only at the picture ( that's the rule) because even well done existing profiles ( AFAIK ) of this aircraft won't help you !

 

I am sure you'll find...you've got a keen eye , otherwise I'll send you an Email.

Good hunt...  and I must add that your skin is still the best around. Congrats!

Madcop  :tease:

 

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Hello, Madcop
I'm looking at the picture and comparing the skin and I do not see anything different:o:
Make it clear, it will not be the fuselage camo next to the balken ...?
:soldier:

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3 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Hello, Madcop
I'm looking at the picture and comparing the skin and I do not see anything different:o:
Make it clear, it will not be the fuselage camo next to the balken ...?
:soldier:

 

Hi  Julian.

 

P.M. sent

Madcop

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Update Priller

thanks Madcop:salute:

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So, after all this cloak and dagger stuff, what exactly has been changed?

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Check out the Balkenkreuze. Well spotted. Well played.

 

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Yeah well spotted Madcop, :salute:  I too focused on the oversprayed SU and didn't notice the missing white bottoms for the Balkenkreuz. ?

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That was a good spot :) I certainly didn't  see it, lol!

However, I prefer it with the full cross markings.

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Thank-you guys  :happy:

 

But it's still Julian who is doing these marvels...

 

As far as I am concerned, the updated skin could still benefit from one important detail added and two  little cosmetic adds.

I sent my remarks with pics attached to Julian.

We'll now wait and see what's the Boss is going to do ! :tease:

Madcop

11 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

That was a good spot :) I certainly didn't  see it, lol!

However, I prefer it with the full cross markings.

 

Thanks Trooper

 

He had the full cross, but on his 190A-5 ! that was a little bit more documented.

 

Madcop

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Still hot:biggrin:
Thanks to Madcop for all the suggestions, photos and information.

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Update included in the last post

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Hi Julian

 

Mucho mucho Sangria ?

 

I think the link direct us to the original skin, not your latest edition.

 

 Madcop :drink2:

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Priller's 190 does not have the C3 triangle at the fuel filler cap.

 

Just sayin ?

 

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Sorry, updated link:dash:

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Huh, what a journey.

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2 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Priller's 190 does not have the C3 triangle at the fuel filler cap.

 

Just sayin ?

 

 

Right, but I think this must be template related...but I am not a skinner !

Madcop

2 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Sorry, updated link:dash:

 

  Many thanks Julian but :unsure:

 

Madcop  :cray:

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What happens to you, Madcop?
I did one last version with the note that CUJO_1970 did.
And something more than adding the photos of details that escape even if we look a lot.

:salute:

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1 hour ago, E69_julian57 said:

What happens to you, Madcop?
I did one last version with the note that CUJO 1970 did.
And something more I added to see the photos of details that escape even if we look a lot.

:salute:

 

Hi Julian

Yes indeed , you did , but you forgot the point 1 from my last email ( 04.11.18 at 13.29) with the picture in attachment.

When we look at  "FW190a8_4k_JG26_Priller_v4_3.dds" the white bordering of the markings ( 13, -- and ---) are hardly noticeable, while on the picture it is quite evident.

 

I understand  that Cujo 1970 was talking for the port side (left side) of the fuselage, and he is right,  but Pips 190A-8 is still having this C3 triangle  on the starboard side (Right side)  and you did it !

 

On the download that I made 10 minutes ago the C3 triangle is still present on the port side… and the white bordering is still tooooooo thin .

 

That's why , early this morning after having downloaded your Update with frenzy at 01.29, I wanted to commit suicide, but as you took into account point 2 and 3 of my mail so well ,I decided to only cry a little bit!

 

Now maybe there is still a new update I am not aware of ….?

Huuuuuge thanks to you.

Madcop  :rolleyes:

 

P.S. Picture sent by email.

 

14 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Priller's 190 does not have the C3 triangle at the fuel filler cap.

 

Just sayin ?

 

 

Sorry CUJO, We are both wrong !  The  Octane triangle is well present but on the starboard side only. (Picture as a proof)

 

 Madcop :dash: 

 

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I'm in it, last version and I hope definitive.:crazy:

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