Game version 3.004 discussion: Steam integration update

[SYN_Haashashin]

10 minutes ago, LsV_Trupobaw said:

Or will he have to rebuy everything because one of his licences happens to be steam?

I dont understand this part here. He only has BoS on Steam and the rest in the store right?? Then if he doesnt want to link all content bought at the store to steam he will only have to buy BoS, the rest he will still have it using the launcher. If he want Steam he should link.

 

I remember Jakob from RoF, so if the case above is the problem he is having, missing BoS key from the store, tell him to PM me, I will send him a BoS key no problem.

 

Haash

 

Edit: As for the rest of the post, please read Jason post.

[6FG_Moonbeam]

Today, I linked my STEAM account to the IL-2 one (I've got just the BoS version), my question is the following : 
In couple of weeks, I will buy BoK and BoBP, so, if I buy this both games, will I be able to play IL-2 with the launcher of

your web site (your stand-alone web site client)without losing any content bought on steam ? 

 

If I may lose content, what do you recommand to me ?

[Seb71]

The guide is very clear for the case when you have items from Steam or from both stores and you want to use the Steam client.

 

Also the guide is very clear for the case when you have nothing from Steam and you are using the stand-alone client.

 

But at least for me, the guide is not so clear for the case in which you have items from both stores (Steam and website) and for some reason you want to use the stand-alone launcher (with or without linking the accounts).

[J2_Trupobaw]

@ Jason: Sorry.

@ Haashashin, Sneaksie : Can he even buy BoS again from store if he owns it already from steam? That is a solution, I guess. 

 

[Sneaksie]

LsV_Trupobaw: Rebuying everything is not an option of course. If he doesn't want to run through Steam in any way, he can skip the linking to be able to run the standalone version (that will be missing BoS which he bought on Steam). So the options are either 1) link and run the Steam version from now on or 2) don't link and buy BoS on the website if he wants it. Buying BoS is not required to access other stuff he has.

[SYN_Haashashin]

3 minutes ago, LsV_Trupobaw said:

@Haashashin, Sneaksie : Can he even buy BoS again from store if he owns it already from steam? That is a solution, I guess.

This new system separate the keys, so I would say yes.

 

Haash

 

Edit: Sneaksie beat me to it.

 

[6FG_Moonbeam]

Sneaksie

So, If I linked the accounts, I if I buy content on the IL-2 web site (ex : BoK) and if I download and run the standalone client, will I have got all my

content (ex : BoK and my BoS Steam Version) ? 

 

5 minutes ago, Sneaksie said:

If he doesn't want to run through Steam in any way, he can skip the linking to be able to run the standalone version (that will be missing BoS which he bought on Steam). So the options are either 1) link and run the Steam version from now on or 2) don't link and buy BoS on the website if he wants it.

 

[Leon_Portier]

14 minutes ago, SYN_Haashashin said:

He only has BoS on Steam and the rest in the store right?? Then if he doesnt want to link all content bought at the store to steam he will only have to buy BoS, the rest he will still have it using the launcher. If he want Steam he should link.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Sneaksie said:

1) link and run the Steam version from now on or 2) don't link and buy BoS on the website if he wants it. Buying BoS is not required to access other stuff he has.

 

That answers my question, thanks! I got another though, I´m pretty much in the same situation as Trupos buddy, BOS on Steam, everything else from the website. Can I just link it now, buy BOS from the website later and then use the Launcher instead of Steam?

[Sneaksie]

No, a linked account needs to be logged in from Steam. If you absolutely want to run the standalone version for some reason even if you bought BoS on Steam, don't link but you'll miss BoS and other Steam stuff this way.

[SYN_Haashashin]

5 minutes ago, Leon_Portier said:

Can I just link it now, buy BOS from the website later and then use the Launcher instead of Steam?

Moonbeam is asking the same thing I think. I would say no. If you link all to Steam and afterwards you buy BoS on the website, if you use the launcher you will only have BoS there. Read the part of the announcement about the ingame names. The new system separate steam keys from website keys, if I did understand it right.

 

Still, wait for a more official answer.

 

Haash

 

Edit: Uppps again he beats me hehehehe I miss the function to see who is reading the topic hehehe

[Leon_Portier]

Just now, Sneaksie said:

No, a linked account needs to be logged in from Steam. If you absolutely want to run the standalone version for some reason even if you bought BoS on Steam, don't link but you'll miss BoS and other Steam stuff this way.

Got it, thank you!

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, BorysVorobyov said:

Awesome thanks! 

 

What sort of minor 3d corrections?

 

4 hours ago, E69_geramos109 said:

Would be nice to know the 3d corrections. 

 

The anti-condensation device on the windscreen was repositioned and the water / oil temperature gauge was replaced with a circular water temperature gauge.

[Rafcio]

Bug with skin of Spitfire mk.IX WO DYGALA from 302 Sq. still waiting to improve. Change insignia from XW to WX on left side of fuselage.

[RedKestrel]

So, short version:

 

If you have steam stuff, link accounts and use Steam to ensure you have access to all content.

If you don't have steam stuff, use the launcher and have access to all content.

 

If you have steam stuff but want to use the game launcher only for some reason, you'll be missing stuff from Steam. Sucks, but its the only way they can keep releasing stuff via Steam because of changes made by Valve.

Is that all correct?

[Seb71]

2 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

So, short version:

 

If you have steam stuff, link accounts and use Steam to ensure you have access to all content.

If you don't have steam stuff, use the launcher and have access to all content.

 

If you have steam stuff but want to use the game launcher only for some reason, you'll be missing stuff from Steam. Sucks, but its the only way they can keep releasing stuff via Steam because of changes made by Valve.

Is that all correct?

From the last answer, I take it that if you link the accounts, you can no longer use the stand-alone launcher.

[Sneaksie]

Looks right. If you bought the game on Steam but want to play the standalone version without Steam, there is a problem. You either go all website (and don't link the account with Steam) or play in Steam client.

[TealMilly]

Hello, one thing your notes don't say is what if I want it the exact other way;

I do own a bunch of content bought through the regular store, but I'd like to use the game through Steam. Can I just migrate my content over to Steam?

 

If not directly, can I buy a singular new piece of Steam content, get a through-Steam account, and then link my accounts?

[J2_Trupobaw]

20 minutes ago, Leon_Portier said:

 

 

Can I just link it now, buy BOS from the website later and then use the Launcher instead of Steam?

From I understand, don't link, buy BoS from website later and use launcher.

[Jason_Williams]

The problem here is that for 3 years all we heard is we want to play through Steam, please give me a Steam keys and more content on Steam. Now we find the opposite that there is a small group who wants Steam content but use the launcher. Which to us seems weird.

 

The question has always been about using all content,  not about launching.

 

Jason

[Sneaksie]

Just now, TealMilly said:

I do own a bunch of content bought through the regular store, but I'd like to use the game through Steam. Can I just migrate my content over to Steam?

 

If not directly, can I buy a singular new piece of Steam content, get a through-Steam account, and then link my accounts?

 

 

Well, you can buy BoS on Steam during sale. This way you'll have Steam version. Then run the game through Steam and link with your old account to have all other stuff.

[Jason_Williams]

1 minute ago, LsV_Trupobaw said:

From I understand, don't link, buy BoS from website later and use launcher.

 

Yes if you absolutely want it that way.

 

Jason

[TealMilly]

Just now, Sneaksie said:

 

Well, you can buy BoS on Steam during sale. This way you'll have Steam version. Then run the game through Steam and link with your old account to have all other stuff.

 

Okay, thank you, that's clear and fair enough!

[6FG_Moonbeam]

15 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

The problem here is that for 3 years all we heard is we want to play through Steam, please give me a Steam keys and more content on Steam. Now we find the opposite that there is a small group who wants Steam content but use the launcher. Which to us seems weird.

 

The question has always been about using all content,  not about launching.

 

Jason

Once and for all, last question : with BoS bought on Steam, can it possible to buy BoBP on the website and play to it on steam Version ? 

It's just to reassure me !

 

Thank you in advance

 

Moonbeam

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

IMHO the problem is Steam. Why do we need it?

I made the mistake of buying the BOS and two collector planes but then, I switched to the web and everything is just fine. In short, we do not need Steam at all. I just do not like it. I wish I could get out of it. Anyway, I did the linking process and everything is running smoothly 

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Hoorah! Steam integration is even more cumbersome and confusing now!

[LuftManu]

Getting the sim more connected to Steam is a great move. More market possibilities and easier to use for people who has both.

I own both so I linked the account and it's all fine but I will be buying from the web.

 

If you don't want to do it you can always forget about it and just keep the game. People are afraid of changes but platforms like these are the future, I am happy to see my Flight sim on it. I wonder if peole do this when they get the VR?

Edited June 18, 2018 by LF_ManuV

[Jason_Williams]

13 minutes ago, 352nd-Moonbeam said:

Once and for all, last question : with BoS bought on Steam, can it possible to buy BoBP on the website and play to it on steam Version ? 

It's just to reassure me !

 

Thank you in advance

 

Moonbeam

 

Yes, once you link accounts you can launch from Steam and all will be there, but BOBP won’t be in your Steam library. We have no way of placing non-Steam purchased items in your Steam library.

 

Jason

[Seb71]

It would be nice if people who bought from both stores (Steam and website store) would be also given the option to use everything in the stand-alone client.

[Jason_Williams]

19 minutes ago, Space_Ghost said:

Hoorah! Steam integration is even more cumbersome and confusing now!

 

Actually no it’s not. It’s much simpler now for new users and once everyone links it is much less confusing. You have no idea how many people complained about two logins. You guys on this site are the minority believe it or not.

 

Jason

5 minutes ago, Seb71 said:

It would be nice if people who bought from both stores (Steam and website store) would be also given the option to use everything in the stand-alone client.

 

Once again complain to Steam they made us change a perfectly functioning system. Write to Gabe. And when Gabe says we should have just gone with Steam in the beginning, tell him his people ignored us for 5 years even after I crashed many a meeting room at various trade shows asking for their support to list our games and support their platform. And then his people making empty promises. This whole gigantic turd sandwich was caused by Valve ignoring Rise of Flight. At least when we partnered with 1C we could get on Steam. Now it’s a self serve platform and no one believes me when I tell how difficult it was just to get on Steam.

 

Jason

[RedKestrel]

5 minutes ago, PA_Spartan- said:

IMHO the problem is Steam. Why do we need it?

I made the mistake of buying the BOS and two collector planes but then, I switched to the web and everything is just fine. In short, we do not need Steam at all. I just do not like it. I wish I could get out of it. Anyway, I did the linking process and everything is running smoothly 

Some people want to use it, and a lot of people have been making a lot of noise ever since BoK came out that they really wanted it on Steam and wouldn't buy it any other way. I guess in some countries its much easier to buy through steam than to get a credit card and buy through the website.

But Valve is the gatekeeper on Steam and they can impose a lot of rules and work on people who want to sell there, so it took a lot of work from the Devs to get it so they could continue to offer this stuff on Steam. Since there is a subset of people who can't (or won't) buy direct from the devs, it's worthwhile to do so because it lets the devs net some sales they otherwise wouldn't get, even if they only get half the revenue. Half a loaf is better than none, I suppose.

Anyway, this is the only way that they can still sell things on Steam and also allow people who have bought on Steam to use content they've bought in the store. I honestly don't know what the big deal is about having to log in through Steam if you have some Steam content. Double click steam, click play Il-2. Or double click Il-2 launcher, and click Play. Same thing in the end.
 

[6FG_Moonbeam]

Finally, it's nothing if BoBP cannot be in my steam library, If I can launch my steam version and play with additional content bought on your site it's great !

 

Thank you for answered me ! 

 

You do a great job with IL-2 Series ! I just hope the camo of the P-51D Mustang Moonbeam McSwine will be in BoBP ?...

Edited June 18, 2018 by 352nd-Moonbeam

[J2_Trupobaw]

46 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

The problem here is that for 3 years all we heard is we want to play through Steam, please give me a Steam keys and more content on Steam. Now we find the opposite that there is a small group who wants Steam content but use the launcher. Which to us seems weird.

 

The question has always been about using all content,  not about launching.

 

Jason

For 3 years everything worked fine so you heard no complains until it stopped . In that time, people who want to be paying you rather than Valve had been accepting gifts from non-sim people bought on steam for convenience - my family knows of your products only via my steam wishlist, for instance. Some people who first bought BoX via steam have heard the call to pay at the source and decided to buy their future content from you rather than Valve. 

Where it comes to your products, some people like myself want to be steam users, but never steam spenders. Steam is a gift shop and download platform on game update day, but I want them nowhere near my BoX actual account and purchases I make with my money.

Edited June 18, 2018 by LsV_Trupobaw

[Seb71]

Let's say I understand no longer having access to Steam purchased items when using the stand-alone client.

 

But I don't understand why should we lose access to website-purchased items from stand-alone client if we link the accounts. What has Steam got to do with these purchases?

[-TBC-AeroAce]

@Jason_Williams Dont stress dude!!! Chin up!! Thanks for all the efforts you have made for this sim, you are doing great!! 

Edited June 18, 2018 by AeroAce

[Leon_Portier]

Lord Gaben has forsaken us 

[J2_Jakob]

 

1 hour ago, SYN_Haashashin said:

I dont understand this part here. He only has BoS on Steam and the rest in the store right?? Then if he doesnt want to link all content bought at the store to steam he will only have to buy BoS, the rest he will still have it using the launcher. If he want Steam he should link.

 

I remember Jakob from RoF, so if the case above is the problem he is having, missing BoS key from the store, tell him to PM me, I will send him a BoS key no problem.

  

Haash

 

Hey I'm just stopping by to tell that I can start Stalingrad career without problems in this configuration:

 

1) BoS gift license key used with store client

2) everything else bought on store

 

I am using Steam for other games, but I've never actually installed BoX there. Money to the devs, right? ?

 

 

S!

 

 

[Ropalcz]

Is there any planned date (or approx.) when new planes (G-6 and others) will be put on Steam market?

[StarLightSong]

Worked flawlessly, DCS could learn from this.

[[CPT]Pike*HarryM]

I originally bought BOS and the FW-190A3 and La-5 on steam. Everything else I have bought on the Il-2 store, not steam. Everything has always showed up inside my game when launched from Steam with the old way to activate the keys. I just did the link account thing and everything is still there, just did a quick mission in the 109G-14, so BoBP is there also, not an issue. It may not show up in the steam interface as a DLC or whatever, but the content is all there in-game.  

[Daytrader]

1 hour ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

Yes, once you link accounts you can launch from Steam and all will be there, but BOBP won’t be in your Steam library. We have no way of placing non-Steam purchased items in your Steam library.

 

Jason

Hi Jason, i thought that by linking accounts, we can buy from both steam and your web store and there show in steam, why would Battle of Bodenplatte then not show in steam if i bought from your webstore, i thought it was the 4th part of IL2 Stalingrad is it not ? or am i getting it wrong.

Edited June 18, 2018 by Daytrader