Spitfire Mk.IX 4k template?

[Redeye]

It looks INCREDIBLE.

[sevenless]

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 10:27 PM, Zargos said:

 

 

Actually, the Mouchotte's plane was a Mk IX.c with au round tail.

This skin is an horrible FAKE ! 

 

See U soon

 

 

 

Hand´s down one of the most sexy planes in the game!

[smink1701]

really appreciate your hard work that we get to share!!!

[Raptorattacker]

On 6/15/2018 at 4:00 PM, Zargos said:

The first thing that any one can see is that small rivets appear almost recessed and rather as small hollows rather than small bumps.

You nailed it Z. If anything the small rivets were almost flat (as they are meant to be 'flush')

On 6/15/2018 at 4:00 PM, Zargos said:

I also try to give a little bumpy look to the plane plate and to modulate the "bumpiness" in different location.

Lovely. Maybe a little more of a tweak? Just my personal taste... Not a criticism, just a humble opinion!

 

... and yeah, thanks for the work you're a-puttin' in. MUCHO appreciation!!

Edited June 17, 2018 by Raptorattacker

[AndyJWest]

The Spitfire use a mix of flush and domed rivets, depending on location, which has an interesting story behind it. Flush rivets create less drag, but domed rivets are easier to use, especially in places where internal access is limited. The process for deciding which to use where involved glue and a bag of split peas: 

 

 

From The Aerodynamics of the Spitfire, J.A.D. Ackroyd, Journal of Aeronautical History, 2016/03

https://www.aerosociety.com/media/4953/the-aerodynamics-of-the-spitfire.pdf

 

[EAF19_Marsh]

Fascinating, thanks for the article!

[Zargos]

Very interresting indeed !

 

Ho ! Yes guys, I'm back ...

 

Sorry for keep you waiting but I'm more than busy at work and when I'm back home late in the evening I don't feel like opening a computer again.

I save a couple hours with my wife, then go to bed and sleep like a baby.

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It's all the more a shame that the template is almost ready for release.

 

By the way has some one get news from ICDP ?

He was supposed to get the 2k template from Jason, but didn't post anything since there ?

I tried to send him a MP but I was answered that he couldn't recieve messages any longer.

 

See U soon with good news I hope.

[LeeHarvey]

7 hours ago, Zargos said:

Very interresting indeed !

 

Ho ! Yes guys, I'm back ...

 

Sorry for keep you waiting but I'm more than busy at work and when I'm back home late in the evening I don't feel like opening a computer again.

I save a couple hours with my wife, then go to bed and sleep like a baby.

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It's all the more a shame that the template is almost ready for release.

 

By the way has some one get news from ICDP ?

He was supposed to get the 2k template from Jason, but didn't post anything since there ?

I tried to send him a MP but I was answered that he couldn't recieve messages any longer.

 

See U soon with good news I hope.

 

 Welcome back, I'm glad you checked in. I was starting to wonder if this was a dead project, but I understand busy living.

 

No, we haven't heard anything about the 2k from ICDP, sorry.

[Zargos]

Well, here we are !

 

I've managed to upload the first version of the Spitfire Mk.IXe template !

I owe you some explanations because in this template, there are not all the elements to which you are accustomed. This is because I made the template from a 2k skin of the game and not from a template provided by the developers.

So the "wireframe" layer is missing and I did not have time to make different camouflages and roundels (only RAF 1942 paint scheme is available).
But the essential point is the weathering. When I made the P39 and La5F-N templates, I was able to turn the default weathering layers of the dev's template from 2k to 4k. For the Spitfire these layers did not exist and so I could not do the usual operation.
Therefore there are no weathering layers in my template. I'm sorry for the skiners who do not realize their own weathering. They will have to learn to do it by themselves.
When we have access to the 2k template, I promise to update my template.

Here is the link to download the template and the "normal map" that goes with: http://www.unbound-frogs.org/zsf/la5f-n-template-2/

 

Now it's your turn to start some skins !

 

Special thanks to Kirk for the stencils in HD and to ICDP for some of his aircraft parts in 4k

Edited June 28, 2018 by Zargos

[Kirk]

Well done Zargos!!!!!! 

[smink1701]

Thanks Zargos for some good news today!

[ROCKET_KNUT]

Zargos, you´re my hero! Thank you so much! 

[II/JG11_Terzerole_VR]

Great Work.

Here my D-Day Skin

 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Thanks, working on some weathering layers.

[Talon_]

152 Sqn. (Hyderabad) "Black Panthers of Burma" Spitfire VIII

 

Not sure I can release this as I adapted the weathering over the course of about 2 hours from @ICDP's excellent Spitfire Vb template.

Edited June 30, 2018 by Talon_

[Talon_]

Spitfire LFMk.IXc, MJ250, No. 601 Squadron, Italy, Summer, 1944 as seen here:

 

 

 

 

[Talon_]

Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX BS273 (ex-BF273)
F/O Prince Emanuel Galitzine
Special Service (High Altitude) Flight
Northolt, September 1942

 

[US96_Wright]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/0pwb4pkfy555yo8/Spitfire_MKIX_Pride_of_Britian.dds/file

I used the previous MKVB file that i made for someone the weathering and most of the parts fit so i just adapted it so it will fit the MKIX template

Edited July 1, 2018 by TitanSlayer63
Wrong File

[Talon_]

41 Sqn Spitfire, Blackpool Air Races 1948

 

 

[LeeHarvey]

Thank's Zargos. Using Weathering modified from ICDP's Mk.Vb and your template, I am a happy pretend Spitfire pilot.

[Talon_]

Just to note I'm waiting for permission to release anything but I will put stuff out when I'm happy ICDP is happy

[Talon_]

I've put together a .PSD file which has all the ETO Spitfire IX varieties available at the click of a button, with weathering based on @ICDP's Vb template. If I achieve the combination of permission from both him and yourself @Zargos I would be extremely happy to share it with the community. Shown below are the main paint schemes used by the RAF in the ETO for the life of the Spitfire IX - each of these has a preset in the file which can be activated by unhiding a layer group.

 

 

[Zargos]

Hi Talon_,

Thank you and congratulations for your skins.

I think it would be a good idea to include your and ICDP's as well work in my template.

If you agree I can put your weathering layers and paint schemes in my template in order to create a "collective" template (with appropriate credit of course).

...

By the way, if I may suggest a notice : there are gun exhausts marks on the wing edges but I'm not certain that Mk. IXe Spits had guns at these places.

Maybe some specialists could give us some information about that point.

 

 

[Talon_]

Woops! You're right, a little oversight there! It's still work in progress as I have a few more elements to convert from the Vb and the wings are one of them ?

 

I have PM'd @ICDP and await his response

[Talon_]

@ICDP has very kindly allowed us to include his work in this template @Zargos - I will send you my files soon. Need to do a little more work on them!

[Zargos]

OK Talon_, that's fine.

Take tour time, there no need  to hurry.

Good work is often slow !

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[DD_Arthur]

On 7/1/2018 at 5:37 PM, Talon_ said:

41 Sqn Spitfire, Blackpool Air Races 1948

 

 

 

Beautiful skin Talon

 

About that picture of the air racing Spits;  can that really be Blackpool in 1948?  I'm not sure if it was technically possible to take a picture like that in 1948.  

Also - and I might be talking out of my backside - isn't that Lancing College in the background?  In which case this must a pass along the flight line at Shoreham airshow. 

[Talon_]

1 minute ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Beautiful skin Talon

 

About that picture of the air racing Spits;  can that really be Blackpool in 1948?  I'm not sure if it was technically possible to take a picture like that in 1948.  

Also - and I might be talking out of my backside - isn't that Lancing College in the background?  In which case this must a pass along the flight line at Shoreham airshow. 

 

Those are modern survivors wearing the colours of the 48 plane! There are very few surviving Spits painted as they actually flew - they normally wear the skin of one famous ace or another.

[DD_Arthur]

Ah...I see.  Mind you,  there are very few surviving Spits containing more than a handful of the components they were originally built with

 

You wouldn't mind sharing that skin here with us would you?  It really is a thing of beauty

[sevenless]

On ‎7‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 8:08 AM, Zargos said:

 

By the way, if I may suggest a notice : there are gun exhausts marks on the wing edges but I'm not certain that Mk. IXe Spits had guns at these places.

Maybe some specialists could give us some information about that point.

 

E-Wing armament here: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/sorting-out-the-e-american-armament-for-the-spitfire-mk-ixxvi.html

 

C-Wing armament here: 

[Zargos]

Thank Sevenless for this information.

[Raptorattacker]

On 6/28/2018 at 11:48 AM, Zargos said:

Well, here we are !

Z, you're a true gent!! Thanks mate.

[blockheadgreen_]

On 7/4/2018 at 9:32 PM, DD_Arthur said:

 

Beautiful skin Talon

 

About that picture of the air racing Spits;  can that really be Blackpool in 1948?  I'm not sure if it was technically possible to take a picture like that in 1948.  

Also - and I might be talking out of my backside - isn't that Lancing College in the background?  In which case this must a pass along the flight line at Shoreham airshow. 

The original 1948 Spit was a Mk. 21, the photo is from the early noughties.

[Luger1969]

On 7/6/2018 at 11:25 PM, Raptorattacker said:

Z, you're a true gent!! Thanks mate.

Raptor...grey nurse please....?

[Raptorattacker]

20 hours ago, Luger1969 said:

Raptor...grey nurse please...

I've got it in the pipeline mate. Don't worry!

EDIT The only trouble is, I need to re-edit the .n file as it is a little too 'smooth' for my tastes (NO downer on Z!). This will take a little while and I need to jiggle the markings around a little so that they fit the MkIX as it's slightly different. As soon as it's done, expect the Grey Nurse!!

Edited July 10, 2018 by Raptorattacker

[LeeHarvey]

Not  a complaint, but I am curious. Why, when the plane using a skin I made with this template takes damage, does it not show correctly? I just get silver splotches where the damage should be. Did I mess something up or is it because the plane is early release or some other reason?

Edited July 12, 2018 by LeeHarvey

[Zargos]

On 7/10/2018 at 12:26 AM, Raptorattacker said:

I need to jiggle the markings around a little so that they fit the MkIX as it's slightly different

 

May be you could tell me more about that so I would be able to correct these details for the next version of the template.

 

 

17 hours ago, LeeHarvey said:

Did I mess something up or is it because the plane is early release or some other reason?

 

I think you didn't miss anything. We, skinners have no action on the damage layers and I'm surprised that using a custom skin could have an impact.

I suppose you've already tested the damages with default skins ?

Can you show us some screenshots ?

 

Edited July 13, 2018 by Zargos

[Raptorattacker]

39 minutes ago, Zargos said:

May be you could tell me more about that so I would be able to correct these details for the next version of the template.

Z, I was just saying to Luger1969 because he wanted a version of the 'Grey Nurse' I did for the MkV and the markings I did on that are slightly displaced so I need to mess around with them to fit the MkIX. It's nothing wrong with YOUR work, that's all dandy! 

39 minutes ago, Zargos said:

I suppose you've already tested the damages with default skins ?

@LeeHarvey It's because the .n file doesn't have the Alpha layer on it is all. You should copy the Alpha off've the original and then paste/resize it into Zargos's one. Problem solved!!

Edited July 13, 2018 by Raptorattacker

[Zargos]

 

45 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said:

You should copy the Alpha off've the original and then paste/resize it into Zargos's one. Problem solved!!

 

Well, some extra work for me ! I'll do that in order to provide a complete template.

Thanks for the information !

 

Edit :

For those who want to do what Raptorattacker suggests, don't forget to enrlage the orignal n. map  to 4096 (the original is 2048 x 2048)

Edited July 13, 2018 by Zargos

[LeeHarvey]

1 hour ago, Raptorattacker said:

 

@LeeHarvey It's because the .n file doesn't have the Alpha layer on it is all. You should copy the Alpha off've the original and then paste/resize it into Zargos's one. Problem solved!!

Ok cool. So just add the alpha layer as a channel to the normal map like when making a skin? Or just open up the normal and add alpha to what's already there in the layers window? Do I need to add it as a layer mask before exporting to .dds format?

Edited July 13, 2018 by LeeHarvey