Is il-2 1946 worth it still?

[SAS_Bombsaway]

With BAT it's all there. You don't have to tweak or mod. It's a huge pack that has been put together of all the best mods and maps. I understand about the huge download but it's worth it. I would sometimes start the download before going to bed and then it would be ready by morning.

I'm not much into jets either. I'm a WWII fan. Pacific mostly. That's where I did most of my map work. My father was on an LST in the Pacific so I guess that's why.

[JonRedcorn]

4 minutes ago, SAS_Bombsaway said:

With BAT it's all there. You don't have to tweak or mod. It's a huge pack that has been put together of all the best mods and maps. I understand about the huge download but it's worth it. I would sometimes start the download before going to bed and then it would be ready by morning.

I'm not much into jets either. I'm a WWII fan. Pacific mostly. That's where I did most of my map work. My father was on an LST in the Pacific so I guess that's why.

I am super excited to jump into it. Like I said I love all these games, and especially 1946 for the scope. And thanks for your fathers service! Only going to take 40 minutes to download 50 gigabytes, incredible the internet we have these days, I remember waiting hours for the 500 MB Battlefield 2 demo to download like 13 years ago.

Edited March 23, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[JonRedcorn]

@SAS_Bombsaway

 

Sorry to bug you but holy christ, I have the initial main bat installed, the whole thing is incredibly overwhelming. There's basically no campaigns to pick from on the world at war part. I am so incredibly confused. Do you need to download all those expansions to get the campaigns? VP has tons of them ready to go. Also does DCG work with this mod?

 

There's all these planes and absolutely nothing to do with them besides fly quick battles? I am truly and utterly defeated by this absolutely monster of a mod.

Edited March 24, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Soilworker]

6 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

 

 

JonRedcorn I know this is completely off topic and completely unrelated but your new profile pic is so freaking awesome I needed to say something! ???

[JonRedcorn]

8 minutes ago, Soilworker said:

 

JonRedcorn I know this is completely off topic and completely unrelated but your new profile pic is so freaking awesome I needed to say something! ???

Yes it is indeed awesome!! I just had to put it up!! Kuatooo!!! Give dees peeple eaiiir!!!

[SAS_Storebror]

9 hours ago, JonRedcorn said:

There's basically no campaigns to pick from on the world at war part.

 

Patch your BAT up to current standards, we're at BAT 3.5 "Musketeer" which includes roughly 50% more campaigns than VP does.

 

Mike

[JonRedcorn]

5 hours ago, SAS_Storebror said:

 

Patch your BAT up to current standards, we're at BAT 3.5 "Musketeer" which includes roughly 50% more campaigns than VP does.

 

Mike

Do I just need the latest patch? Or do I need to download all the expansions? The amount of work you guys put into this is so incredibly impressive. And I answered my own question already thanks!

 

My god. I am speechless, this is hands down the most incredible and thorough mod I've ever seen in my entire life. Been modding and gaming for nearly 20 years... I've witnessed some amazing massive and beautiful mods such as forgotten hope for battlefield 1942, desert combat, project reality, nothing touches this, this is so amazing. You guys are incredible. I haven't even touched 5% of the mod and I am already blown away. Working radar on night fighters? What is this insanity!!

 

There anyway to get USAAF campaigns into the game? Seems there's only campaigns for the RAF and Luftwaffe and a few others, but only the default pacific campaigns for the US. Trying to see if I can get DCG working or transfer some campaigns from the VP modpack. I am sure there are a ton of campaigns thjroughout the ages but I was hoping for some ww2 US campaigns on the western front.

Edited March 24, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[DD_Crash]

On 2/12/2019 at 3:34 PM, 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan said:

I had to quit it because I have 5 USB devices and the game allows only 4.

I have 2 MDFs, joystick, throttle, and pedals.

A bit late but if you use Target you can combine you Thrustmaster controllers into 1 so you can still play if you want to

[ALA13_Yren]

Well, 4.14 will increase dispositives to 8 in old 46.

 

 

16 hours ago, DD_Crash said:

A bit late but if you use Target you can combine you Thrustmaster controllers into 1 so you can still play if you want to

 

Correct. I use them (2 MDF, JOY, THR and PEDALS) all with target and a usb hub and cero problems in IL2 1946

[Hanu]

It was great to try 1946 after a long time as I managed to combine my axes with Gremlin, and see the dots far far away and be able to customize their visibility.

 

Actually it was not so great as I love to fly BoX nowadays, but visibility is... not nearly that good .

[Mataliebres]

Hi, I downloaded the BAT in Torrent, because I have the original 1946 IL-2 Sturmovick without mods but I have a question. Where to install the BAT, in which folder of the IL-2 1946?
Thanks and excuse my ignorance, I have not been able to cross the sky in a flight simulator for years and see if I update.

 

[Rei-sen]

On 3/24/2019 at 6:22 AM, JonRedcorn said:

There anyway to get USAAF campaigns into the game?

I can recommend this one:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=2228

It's a static campaign and it's awesome! I've played 6 missions already. They're all very different with detailed briefings. It was built in CUP - a BAT predecessor so it works fine in BAT.

In mission 6 my plane exploded on start but is't a common problem with 1946 campaigns. It happens if takeoff waypoints for different planes are positioned too close to each other - like all in one spot. All you have to do is to open that mission in Full Mission Editor, find those waypoints on the airfield and move them a bit along the runaway so that there is enough space between them. 

20 hours ago, Mataliebres said:

Hi, I downloaded the BAT in Torrent, because I have the original 1946 IL-2 Sturmovick without mods but I have a question. Where to install the BAT, in which folder of the IL-2 1946?
Thanks and excuse my ignorance, I have not been able to cross the sky in a flight simulator for years and see if I update.

 

It's pretty straight forward. You just need to run the Setup.exe from each package. Have you downloaded only main part from here https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,53691.0.html ?
If you have only that you would also need to download the expansion packs here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?board=264.0

So the full installation sequence would look like this:
STEP 1 - Il2 4:12m - Install Il2 patched to 4:12m
STEP 2 - B.A.T. Install - Basic Install of B.A.T. 
STEP 3 - 3.0 Checkpoint Charlie - First Expansion Set
STEP 4 - 3.1 Operation Sealion - Second Expansion Set
STEP 5 - 3.2 Angels High - Third Expansion Set
STEP 6 - 3.3 Pathfinder  - Fourth Expansion Set
STEP 7 - 3.4 Linebacker  - Fifth Expansion Set (Installer MANDATORY!)
STEP 8 - 3.5 Musketeer - Sixth Expansion Set
STEP 9 - 3.6 The Blitz - Seventh Expansion Set
STEP 10 - 3.6.1 Blitz Patch from here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/4if0ktfc822f90d/BAT_3.6.1_Update.exe
Also after you've done that I would recommend installing this awesome Sound Mod:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,61121.0.html

[Mataliebres]

18 hours ago, Arthur-A said:

I can recommend this one:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=2228

It's a static campaign and it's awesome! I've played 6 missions already. They're all very different with detailed briefings. It was built in CUP - a BAT predecessor so it works fine in BAT.

In mission 6 my plane exploded on start but is't a common problem with 1946 campaigns. It happens if takeoff waypoints for different planes are positioned too close to each other - like all in one spot. All you have to do is to open that mission in Full Mission Editor, find those waypoints on the airfield and move them a bit along the runaway so that there is enough space between them. 

It's pretty straight forward. You just need to run the Setup.exe from each package. Have you downloaded only main part from here https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,53691.0.html ?
If you have only that you would also need to download the expansion packs here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?board=264.0

So the full installation sequence would look like this:
STEP 1 - Il2 4:12m - Install Il2 patched to 4:12m
STEP 2 - B.A.T. Install - Basic Install of B.A.T. 
STEP 3 - 3.0 Checkpoint Charlie - First Expansion Set
STEP 4 - 3.1 Operation Sealion - Second Expansion Set
STEP 5 - 3.2 Angels High - Third Expansion Set
STEP 6 - 3.3 Pathfinder  - Fourth Expansion Set
STEP 7 - 3.4 Linebacker  - Fifth Expansion Set (Installer MANDATORY!)
STEP 8 - 3.5 Musketeer - Sixth Expansion Set
STEP 9 - 3.6 The Blitz - Seventh Expansion Set
STEP 10 - 3.6.1 Blitz Patch from here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/4if0ktfc822f90d/BAT_3.6.1_Update.exe
Also after you've done that I would recommend installing this awesome Sound Mod:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,61121.0.html

 

Thank you for the information currently install by recommendation of a friend up to patch 4.13.4m but I do not know if it is better that you recommend me

 

[Rei-sen]

2 hours ago, Mataliebres said:

 

Thank you for the information currently install by recommendation of a friend up to patch 4.13.4m but I do not know if it is better that you recommend me

 

No problem! The only thing is BAT only works on the game version 4.12.2m. If you try to install it on top of the 4.13.4 it won't work.

 

If you want some cool mods for 4.13.4 I would suggest DGEN Pack. You can get it from here:

http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4386

 

Here's the download link for the torrent file:

http://forum.aviaskins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51718&d=1517300850

 

It's less in scale than BAT, however it also has a lot of planes and maps. 

 

Another one is for 4.13.4 is YPack. It has less planes but I think it is the best mod in terms of an eye candy. A lot of planes have improved 3d models and look awesome, it also has some nice graphic improvements.

You can get it here:

http://patrulla-azul.com/FreeIL2modding/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=2075

 

Installation instructions are in the thread, don't forget the updates and fixes. 

[Mataliebres]

Thanks for your recommendations Arthur-A took note of them and I hope to comment on my respective impressions.
Greetings and good hunting

[SAS_Storebror]

17 hours ago, Arthur-A said:

The only thing is BAT only works on the game version 4.12.2m.

BAT has it's own game engine v5.00m since BAT 3.6.

Can't help if people still play on 4-point-something.

 

Mike

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

7 hours ago, SAS_Storebror said:

BAT has it's own game engine v5.00m since BAT 3.6.

Can't help if people still play on 4-point-something.

 

Mike

Mike, could it be posible to make a mod to be able to use more than 4 USB devices or is it not worthy? No idea about the technical part.

Edited April 21, 2019 by 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan

[JonRedcorn]

21 hours ago, Arthur-A said:

No problem! The only thing is BAT only works on the game version 4.12.2m. If you try to install it on top of the 4.13.4 it won't work.

 

If you want some cool mods for 4.13.4 I would suggest DGEN Pack. You can get it from here:

http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4386

 

Here's the download link for the torrent file:

http://forum.aviaskins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51718&d=1517300850

 

It's less in scale than BAT, however it also has a lot of planes and maps. 

 

Another one is for 4.13.4 is YPack. It has less planes but I think it is the best mod in terms of an eye candy. A lot of planes have improved 3d models and look awesome, it also has some nice graphic improvements.

You can get it here:

http://patrulla-azul.com/FreeIL2modding/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=2075

 

Installation instructions are in the thread, don't forget the updates and fixes. 

Ooof played ypack yesterday... It's not even close to vp or bat. Like not even jn the ballpark. 

[Izel]

On 3/23/2019 at 7:03 PM, JonRedcorn said:

Yes it is indeed awesome!! I just had to put it up!! Kuatooo!!! Give dees peeple eaiiir!!!

Far more dramatic with the "come on Kohaygen..."? ??

[SAS_Storebror]

6 hours ago, 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan said:

Mike, could it be posible to make a mod to be able to use more that 4 USB devices or is it not worthy? No idea about the technical part.

Yes, that's possible.

Just a matter of time until we put the required code changes into BAT.

 

Mike

[Leon_Portier]

Bat has its own game engine now?!

Edit: Also is there somewhere a Index for the BAT Manual please? It looks so nice and I find it confusing to find the topics I`m looking for.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Leon_Portier

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

29 minutes ago, SAS_Storebror said:

Yes, that's possible.

Just a matter of time until we put the required code changes into BAT.

 

Mike

 

Great! That would be so awesome. Thanks a lot

I could use the old Il2 again 

Edited April 21, 2019 by 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan

[Rei-sen]

2 hours ago, JonRedcorn said:

Ooof played ypack yesterday... It's not even close to vp or bat. Like not even jn the ballpark. 

I like their visually improved planes and their visual effects. Yeah it has way less planes than other mods, but it looks good. 

 

Of course there's no mod close to BAT. It has so many planes, maps, improvements, it's just mind blowing. And it's constantly improving. Honestly, I'm always excited about their next BAT expansions as much as about the next BoX update. And I wish that one day BoX will be at least a bit close to BAT in terms of scale. 

[JonRedcorn]

19 minutes ago, Arthur-A said:

I like their visually improved planes and their visual effects. Yeah it has way less planes than other mods, but it looks good. 

 

Of course there's no mod close to BAT. It has so many planes, maps, improvements, it's just mind blowing. And it's constantly improving. Honestly, I'm always excited about their next BAT expansions as much as about the next BoX update. And I wish that one day BoX will be at least a bit close to BAT in terms of scale. 

ypack had like nothing in it, the cockpits and models look way better in bat or even VP. 4.13 seems to have slightly better AI though, except for the shit bomber formations.

 

Honestly there's nothing coherent with any of the packs. VP is the closest thing to a great singleplayer pack for 1946, it has the most dgen campaigns and has DCG compat mods, unfortunately it also uses completely stock flight models.

[Rei-sen]

9 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

ypack had like nothing in it

Did you enable jsgme mods after the installation? There's a looong list of them. They have to be enabled in order to see the difference. 

[JonRedcorn]

40 minutes ago, Arthur-A said:

Did you enable jsgme mods after the installation? There's a looong list of them. They have to be enabled in order to see the difference. 

I did. I guess I am just used to the other mod packs, compared to stock, its better yeah, but compared to those other ones it's just not close. The stock 109 is like one of the worst planes I've ever seen in a game.

Edited April 21, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Rei-sen]

17 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

The stock 109 is like one of the worst planes I've ever seen in a game.

It has improved 109s and 190s as well as as other planes. For example here's how 190s look in YPack:

http://patrulla-azul.com/FreeIL2modding/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16

 

 

[JonRedcorn]

4 hours ago, Arthur-A said:

It has improved 109s and 190s as well as as other planes. For example here's how 190s look in YPack:

http://patrulla-azul.com/FreeIL2modding/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16

 

 

Yeah it looks fine, the cockpit on the otherhand is pretty poor in comparison to the ones found in VP and BAT. If you have to play 4.13 then yeah grab some of those mods, but if you want a better experience grab 4.12 and get VP or BAT.

Edited April 21, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Rei-sen]

I have both?

[JonRedcorn]

1 hour ago, Arthur-A said:

I have both?

I currently have these...

VP

BAT

Ypack

Stock

 

Then

 

Clod Blitz

Il2 GB BOS BOM BOK BOBP All collector besides po2 and ju52

WOTR

DCS

 

Probably 500 gb of flight sims. Oh can't forget good old war thunder...(never touch it)

Edited April 22, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[ALA13_Yren]

Sorry dudes, but YPack is mainly intended for playing online the most flawlest as posible. Not eyecandy nor sinlgeplayer intended. It was created as an internal version for Patrulla Azul to play cooperative campaigns and never was intended to go further.

[JonRedcorn]

1 hour ago, PA_Yren said:

Sorry dudes, but YPack is mainly intended for playing online the most flawlest as posible. Not eyecandy nor sinlgeplayer intended. It was created as an internal version for Patrulla Azul to play cooperative campaigns and never was intended to go further.

nvm thats on av skins, russian site.

Edited April 22, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Eisenfaustus]

Hey guys I have a question:

 

can you explain to someone who has no real clue about the il2 46 modder scene and who is primarily interested in WWII SP gameplay, what the advantages and disadvantages of following configurations is:

 

1st 4.14 unmodded 

2nd 4.12.2 + VP

3rd 4.12.2 + BAT

[Rei-sen]

2 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

3rd 4.12.2 + BAT

IMHO this. Although VP is more WWII oriented, I think BAT has everything that VP has plus some other 30-s - 40-s planes. If disc space is an issue, then I would suggest VP.

[Mataliebres]

 

I definitely prefer to install the BAT thanks

Edited April 23, 2019 by Mataliebres

[JonRedcorn]

On 4/22/2019 at 9:55 AM, Eisenfaustus said:

Hey guys I have a question:

 

can you explain to someone who has no real clue about the il2 46 modder scene and who is primarily interested in WWII SP gameplay, what the advantages and disadvantages of following configurations is:

 

1st 4.14 unmodded 

2nd 4.12.2 + VP

3rd 4.12.2 + BAT

VP mod, I hate to say it, but it just has more singleplayer content. There's like a hundred different dgen campaigns. BAT only has the two stock pacific fighter campaigns for the USAAF and the USN/USMC.

 

There's a few decent campaigns you can add to BAT, besides war over italy, gazala, and battle of france the rest are extremely obscure.

Edited April 23, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Redwo1f]

Ummm...hmmm - looking at my BAT install, I have many many many DGen campaigns for it, not just Pacific (maybe I didn't have a completely stock 4.12 when adding BAT (?) perhaps a stock dgen add-on pack (? not sure) - but darn, i have lots of options!). And lets not forget that DCG campaigns that come stock (internal) from Lowengrin's DCG are actually pretty many as well (and they all work for BAT) - prefer greatly DCG over Dgen anyway. In addition, seems all new stuff  for DCG is being developed by external campaign creators for BAT compatibility - there are several more than Jon listed. Also DCG campaigns for CUP should work as well for BAT.

Edited April 24, 2019 by Redwo1f

[Rei-sen]

There are a lot of dynamic campaigns that come with Asura's Dgen Pack for 4.13.4
You can get it from aviaskins:
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4386

For example, here are the Pacific campaigns from this Dgen Pack. They are awesome!
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,41494.0.html

I had Dgen Pack 2.1, but I've deleted it, since there's Dgen Pack 3.0 coming for 4.14 game version.

[JonRedcorn]

6 hours ago, Arthur-A said:

There are a lot of dynamic campaigns that come with Asura's Dgen Pack for 4.13.4
You can get it from aviaskins:
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=4386

For example, here are the Pacific campaigns from this Dgen Pack. They are awesome!
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,41494.0.html

I had Dgen Pack 2.1, but I've deleted it, since there's Dgen Pack 3.0 coming for 4.14 game version.

Why on earth would you want to play 4.14.

7 hours ago, Redwo1f said:

Ummm...hmmm - looking at my BAT install, I have many many many DGen campaigns for it, not just Pacific (maybe I didn't have a completely stock 4.12 when adding BAT (?) perhaps a stock dgen add-on pack (? not sure) - but darn, i have lots of options!). And lets not forget that DCG campaigns that come stock (internal) from Lowengrin's DCG are actually pretty many as well (and they all work for BAT) - prefer greatly DCG over Dgen anyway. In addition, seems all new stuff  for DCG is being developed by external campaign creators for BAT compatibility - there are several more than Jon listed. Also DCG campaigns for CUP should work as well for BAT.

Really? Do they actually work? I can put a massive dgen folder into bat, but they don't work.

[Dogbert1953]

Far better off getting advice and help from here, in regards 1946 + BAT.

 

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php

 

If you don't mind me saying, of course.

 

Mike.