Raptorattacker Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 3 hours ago, =IL2AU=chappyj said: Yea please ! Always good to cross ref with other sources PM'd ya!
SOLIDKREATE Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 Found one of Grandpa's planes. One shot shows it in flight and the other shot with squadron members posing. Too bad it is a later model than this one =o( 4
DetCord12B Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 Anyone have any color references for the USAAF (late-war) OD Green? I've come across a lot of different sources and none of them are even remotely similar. Currently working on the 646th BS (10 aircraft) and am a little stuck with regards to the colors used. 4 8
Raptorattacker Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 6 hours ago, detcord12b said: Anyone have any color references for the USAAF (late-war) OD Green? I've come across a lot of different sources and none of them are even remotely similar. You inevitably come to the point where 'artistic licence' kicks in. There is simply no way you can expect to get colours exactly right as they would even look different on a daily basis. Just get yourself somewhere in the ball park and then tell yourself, "This is what it looked like on that particular Wednesday afternoon"! Dunno if you've got these? Handy for a starting point... https://mega.nz/#!NnIVwIAJ!y6Fa-9NxF0ZvDnirDYfg6HTLL3_wsNrYCm1aS5Oaabo 1
Raptorattacker Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 8 hours ago, 8./SG1_SPEKTRE76 said: Too bad it is a later model than this one =o( You can always 'base it on'? The only major difference is the nose section really. It CAN be worked around as a tribute.
616Sqn_Johnny-Red Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 On 01/04/2018 at 5:12 PM, BOO said: A20B INVASION STRIPES SET - GIMP PROJECT TEMPLATE Nice work on those invasion stripes mate I'm only sorry I didn't see them until I'd uploaded. Reminds me that you can essentially rework a skin indefinately; and the temptation to do so is never far away. I try never to return to burning garden sheds, silent fireworks, or published skins, but instinct is a hard thing to fight Though it's by no means a complaint, it may be useful to the wider community if you could convert them to a .PSD. Personally (theMonopolistEvilThat.is)Photoshop's not my bag, but the format's very widely supported including with Paintshop Pro. 1
BOO Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny-Red said: Nice work on those invasion stripes mate I'm only sorry I didn't see them until I'd uploaded. Reminds me that you can essentially rework a skin indefinately; and the temptation to do so is never far away. I try never to return to burning garden sheds, silent fireworks, or published skins, but instinct is a hard thing to fight Though it's by no means a complaint, it may be useful to the wider community if you could convert them to a .PSD. Personally (theMonopolistEvilThat.is)Photoshop's not my bag, but the format's very widely supported including with Paintshop Pro. Thanks. TBH it was your work on B-Beer that got me motivated to do em. Far from skilled but they may be a base for someone. As I don't skin a lot anymore purchasing PS isn't something I want to do in order to convert them. I have tried converting the files with those wretched online convertors but it just proved to be one "error occurred" after another. If PS users want them I'm afraid they will have to convert them themselves, or tell me how to do it reliably.
Raptorattacker Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 If you want stuff converting and it's possible to open said 'stuff' actually IN Photoshop then you could always send them to me and I'll save 'em for you and send 'em back? Just sing out if needs be? 1
616Sqn_Johnny-Red Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BOO said: Thanks. TBH it was your work on B-Beer that got me motivated to do em. Far from skilled but they may be a base for someone. Skilled enough for me mate - I'd have used them no questions (with edges cut to fit the picture) if they'd have existed at the time Everything we do as skinners is standing on the shoulders of giants. As for the cross-platform formatting, It's a can of worms to be sure! I'll take a look when I get time and see what I can do. My background is with PSP rather than PS and even with PSP i'm more fluent with the older incarnations of the UI - and this has a real impact on my productivity. I had your project files open in GIMP last night, but I haven't tried to cross-platform layers via the clipboard or a mutually supported format yet. I both hope and expect it will be straightforward. All things trend towards toward me being proved wrong Edited April 3, 2018 by Johnny-Red 1
BOO Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny-Red said: Everything we do as skinners is standing on the shoulders of giants. Amen to that Brother!! I hope you can do something with it (if you choose) 1
Raptorattacker Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Johnny-Red said: Though it's by no means a complaint, it may be useful to the wider community if you could convert them to a .PSD. Personally (theMonopolistEvilThat.is)Photoshop's not my bag, but the format's very widely supported including with Paintshop Pro. Here y'go https://mega.nz/#!dn4mSaTA!kwG3zLmZ1rH7MVy65mVzlxo-At-5q4LXxpOPVOMVCV4 15 hours ago, BOO said: I hope you can do something with it (if you choose) If you use Gimp then just use 'Export As' and the ability to save the file as pretty much whatever format you want is there for the taking. I just had to download it to open those stripes and bingo!! Edited April 4, 2018 by Raptorattacker 1
616Sqn_Johnny-Red Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Just tried the export to PSD route, got me a merged png out the other end. Quite clearly blinked at the wrong moment Will try again on the other side of sleep
DetCord12B Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Raptorattacker said: You inevitably come to the point where 'artistic licence' kicks in. There is simply no way you can expect to get colours exactly right as they would even look different on a daily basis. Just get yourself somewhere in the ball park and then tell yourself, "This is what it looked like on that particular Wednesday afternoon"! Dunno if you've got these? Handy for a starting point... https://mega.nz/#!NnIVwIAJ!y6Fa-9NxF0ZvDnirDYfg6HTLL3_wsNrYCm1aS5Oaabo That's essentially what I did. I eventually settled on a version that most closely resembled the 43 color. Thanks for the link though, I'll check it out. 14 hours ago, BOO said: Thanks. TBH it was your work on B-Beer that got me motivated to do em. Far from skilled but they may be a base for someone. As I don't skin a lot anymore purchasing PS isn't something I want to do in order to convert them. I have tried converting the files with those wretched online convertors but it just proved to be one "error occurred" after another. If PS users want them I'm afraid they will have to convert them themselves, or tell me how to do it reliably. Wish I had seen that post of yours before I spent all that time hand jamming them myself.
BOO Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Raptorattacker said: Here y'go https://mega.nz/#!ErRSlSDY!xrrkMjYjcwHZjFi3wRZyDWopsP9Ikoi_yRQjjG55X0g If you use Gimp then just use 'Export As' and the ability to save the file as pretty much whatever format you want is there for the taking. I just had to download it to open those stripes and bingo!! already tried that - It produces a single layer and a background. 2 hours ago, detcord12b said: Wish I had seen that post of yours before I spent all that time hand jamming them myself. Ah but these are just "averages" of all the reference photos I looked at. A particular historical skin would likely still need a bespoke set making.
Raptorattacker Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BOO said: Ah but these are just "averages" of all the reference photos I looked at. A particular historical skin would likely still need a bespoke set making. Of course but I'm ONLY tryin to help. Anyway, you could paint em green and grey but you could still use the offset as reference for lining up... I use P'Shop meself but a resource is a resource innit, and for those who want it then there it is. If I needed a guide then these'd be good ones for doing the job so nice one! 7 hours ago, Johnny-Red said: Will try again on the other side of sleep I've just redone the link JR. Also, when you export, you can rename the file as psd beforehand. I've just done it and it works for me. Try the updated link and tell me if it works for you?
Raptorattacker Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 A20B 'White 8' of Black Sea Fleet in 1944. As it says below, the original had a dorsal turret with a 12.7mm Beresin Machine Gun. The colours are unusual together with the camouflage, as described in the same image. The skin can be downloaded HERE and thankyou to @ICDP for the Template 3 5
DetCord12B Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Last WIP screen, I promise. Release sometime over the weekend. 6 6
Raptorattacker Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Do 'Angler of Death', the 'Lethal Fisherman'!!
7./KG51_Baumbach Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Superb Det.......kudos to ya mate,these are beautiful.
Raptorattacker Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) WHO WANTS TO GO OUT TONIGHT?!! Douglas A20B Havoc Based on a Boston Mk.III Intruder W8268 TH-O of No. 418 Squadron - RCAF - Bradwell Bay April 1942 The bottom reference picture shows the markings in white but they were definitely dull red according to further research and given that the machine was a night operator. Skin download HERE and, of course, thanks to @ICDP for the Template! ... I think I'll give the Havocs a rest for a bit!! Edited April 6, 2018 by Raptorattacker 2 4 5
The_Gunfighter Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 I'm for sure looking forward to the Angel of Death & company!!
=FEW=Hauggy Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 Noice! Hey I hope you didn't forget my humble request, did you?
Raptorattacker Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, =FEW=Hauggy said: Hey I hope you didn't forget my humble request, did you? Nope. Like I said, I AM busy but nope don't worry... 1
DD_Arthur Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 Fantastic skins here. Thankyou very, very much for all your hardwork guys 1
Raptorattacker Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, =FEW=Hauggy said: you didn't forget my humble request, did you? Well, I DIDN'T forget and, because you reminded me, I did it and posted you the link on PM so go on... check yer mail!! ps Any screenshots then please don't forget to credit? Ta! Edited April 6, 2018 by Raptorattacker
=FEW=Hauggy Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 That's awesome! Are you sure the roundels on top of the wings looked like that? Should I put the dl link here? Of course all credit goes to you!
Raptorattacker Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 10 hours ago, =FEW=Hauggy said: Are you sure the roundels on top of the wings looked like that? Well a very good friend of mine assured me that the roundels were the correct ones. He works in an Aircraft Museum in France and, more importantly, he's FRENCH! If it causes any concern I can always 'go back to the drawing board' but I went with his (more than knowledgeable) advice on this one. I know what you mean though as a lot of them had the 2-colour roundels on the wing... Here's his model from the same Squadron...
=FEW=Hauggy Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Raptorattacker said: Well a very good friend of mine assured me that the roundels were the correct ones. He works in an Aircraft Museum in France and, more importantly, he's FRENCH! If it causes any concern I can always 'go back to the drawing board' but I went with his (more than knowledgeable) advice on this one. I know what you mean though as a lot of them had the 2-colour roundels on the wing... Here's his model from the same Squadron... Yeah I'm not trying to critisize negatively just asking. Thanks again!
Raptorattacker Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) I know, I know. I was thinking the same thing exactly and I have just messaged him with that specific question so all will be revealed in due course!! Not a problem to adjust, just half an hour or so if needs be... she's very good-looking though, I must say! Edited April 7, 2018 by Raptorattacker
BOO Posted April 8, 2018 Posted April 8, 2018 Hi - I redid "Ridin High" - Sorry - new paint tone, better cutting in, weathering etc. I also now add "My Joy". Both aircraft served in the PTO in New Guinea and are depicted in late 1944. "Ridin High" was an A20G serving with 388th BS_416th BG. http://www.mediafire.com/file/i9wbih6abhh0ubp/A-20_43-22166__Ridin'_High_388th_BS_416th_BG.dds "My Joy" was an A20G serving with 674th BS_ 417th BG. Its nose art was taken from a WT thunder skin by Milton Shupe which I reworked. Shupe has the art on both sides of the aircraft but I cannot find any evidence to confirm this an so have left mine on just the SB side. No mission markings are apparent either, which I find odd. http://www.mediafire.com/file/7u9d95185t6blj5/A-20_43-22156_My_Joy_674th_BS__417th_BG.dds Produced with the excellent 4K ICDP/777 Template with a more matte alpha layer to both. 2 2 4
BOO Posted April 8, 2018 Posted April 8, 2018 Hello Boston III BZ201 OA-G belonging to 342 Sdn (Free French). Depicted in Oct 1944 on the Squadron's first day back on the home soil of B50/Vitry-en-Artois. Unlike most allied aircraft at this time, 342 actually reinstated the D-Day Markings in full on the fuselage. They also finally managed to shake free the last of the RAF's dictates about national insignia, painting out the old RAF flash and wing roundels, placing the latter with French AF markings. http://www.mediafire.com/file/8na1sx0eb8jy6e5/A20_342Sdn_OA-B_Oct44.dds 1 1
Raptorattacker Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Douglas A20B Havoc based on the Boston MkIII OA U/BZ261 of the Free French 342 'Lorraine' Squadron RAF 1944 a perfect compliment to BOO and his wonderful depiction of one of her sister ships above! Skin download HERE and many thanks to @ICDP for his usual quality Template work! 2 1
Pierre64 Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) On 03/04/2018 at 4:41 AM, DetCord12B said: Anyone have any color references for the USAAF (late-war) OD Green? I've come across a lot of different sources and none of them are even remotely similar. Does this help ? BTW, I like your A-20 skins ! Edited April 10, 2018 by Pierre64
Diggun Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pierre64 said: Does this help ? BTW, I like your A-20 skins ! mmmmmmmmm.....primer.....
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