Bodenplatte early access

[sevenless]

22 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

 

December 19, 2016 - Bf 109 G-4 (first Kuban aircraft)

August 29, 2017 - Kuban map

March 14, 2018 - Kuban completed

 

This suggests that there would be large gap before the map release (in late 2018 or early 2019). However, I wouldn't extrapolate from past releases. Now, many projects are being developed simultaneously. 

 

IIRC Jason mentioned a release date for BoBl 2019ish in his FAQ Nov 2017. So getting the first planes as early access in Mai 2018 and perhaps the map in late 2018 (xmas?) sounds realistic.

 

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I believe that very early images of the Kuban map appeared on October 6, 2016 (almost nine months before map release). Recent images show that the Bodenplatte map is well underway. Therefore, a late 2018 map release does seem feasible. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

52 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

I believe that very early images of the Kuban map appeared on October 6, 2016 (almost nine months before map release). Recent images show that the Bodenplatte map is well underway. Therefore, a late 2018 map release does seem feasible. 

 

Yep, I posted this update on October 6 (https://stormbirds.blog/2016/10/06/first-look-at-kuban-dx11-performance/) and that version of the Kuban map was much less evolved than what we're seeing with the Bodenplatte map.

 

I would guess that because the Bodenplatte map doesn't really represent anything dramatically different from what they have done before, they are focused on refining the process and then being able to transition over to create the other maps that the two other projects need. Or at least assist with them if not make them directly (we don't know how much third party support is being provided to produce Tank Crew and Flying Circus).

 

If I were to guess...

 

End of May: Spitfire LF.IXe

End of June: Bf109G-14

End of July/Early August: Third aircraft

End of September: Fourth

End of October: Fifth

End of November: Sixth and map

etc.

[7.GShAP/Silas]

Sorry for going off-topic, but speaking of maps has there been any news of the Odessa map so far this year?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

End of May for the Spitfire F/LF Mk.IXe seems a bit too optimistic. The G-6 took about six months from WIP render to release. Granted, the Kuban frenzy might have played a role in that. Do you think they have cut that development time down to only two months?

 

 

[catchthefoxes]

@Mitthrawnuruodo maybe the devs are that good.

[Field-Ops]

If you remember the Kuban development Early Access cycle they were pumping out a new aircraft at the end of every month until the later half of the year when holidays started rolling around. There were some hickups here and there naturally but it was still pretty dang fast.

[sevenless]

7 hours ago, 7.GShAP/Silas said:

Sorry for going off-topic, but speaking of maps has there been any news of the Odessa map so far this year?

 

Are they planning a Odessa map ?

[Dakpilot]

1 hour ago, sevenless said:

 

Are they planning a Odessa map ?

 

 

Odessa Map was being done by  a "Mod Team" last news I remember was they were waiting for final release of Kuban to integrate  new water tech

 

there are other WIP pics in 'will there be Other map' thread (somewhere)

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

Edited May 1, 2018 by Dakpilot

[sevenless]

7 minutes ago, Dakpilot said:

Cheers, Dakpilot

 

Thanks! Didn´t know that. Hmm it was mentioned 2016 and then went silent... 

 

[BlackSix]

9 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

If I were to guess...

 

End of May: Spitfire LF.IXe

End of June: Bf109G-14

End of July/Early August: Third aircraft

End of September: Fourth

End of October: Fifth

End of November: Sixth and map

etc.

Don't forget that exactly our team (not 3rd party) also need to do Prokhorovka map for the "Tank Crew". So I'd not wait Bodenplatte map very soon.

[ShamrockOneFive]

16 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

Don't forget that exactly our team (not 3rd party) also need to do Prokhorovka map for the "Tank Crew". So I'd not wait Bodenplatte map very soon.

 

Right. Perhaps I was being a bit over optimistic

 

No rush on the map team. They have lots to do!

41 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Thanks! Didn´t know that. Hmm it was mentioned 2016 and then went silent... 

 

 

I'm still hoping that they are secretly working on this in the background. It looked so good!

[EAF19_Marsh]

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Don't forget that exactly our team (not 3rd party) also need to do Prokhorovka map for the "Tank Crew". So I'd not wait Bodenplatte map very soon.

 

Don't suppose that the Prokhorovka map might see an initial release before complete package is finished?

[-TBC-AeroAce]

One thing I can't wait to try is nail a 109 with a Sopwith Cammel 

[BlackSix]

23 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Don't suppose that the Prokhorovka map might see an initial release before complete package is finished?

I can't say, you need Jason to answer this question.

[Rjel]

2 hours ago, AeroAce said:

One thing I can't wait to try is nail a 109 with a Sopwith Cammel 

I must admit I enjoy those mixed era setups. They can be a blast. Echoes of The Twilight Zone come to mind. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Rjel

[HenFre]

Does anyone know exactly what area the Bodenplatte map will cover?

[Sharpe43]

11 minutes ago, Rjel said:

I must admit I enjoy those mixed era setups. They can be a blast. Echoes of The Twilight Zone come to mind. 

"Splash the Zeroes!" that one should be far, far worse..

5 minutes ago, HenFre said:

Does anyone know exactly what area the Bodenplatte map will cover?

There's a lot of speculation on that, which in turn is caused by the starting point of the Bodenplatte attackers...

[Gambit21]

9 minutes ago, HenFre said:

Does anyone know exactly what area the Bodenplatte map will cover?

 

Well the 365th is a player squadron, so takes you southwest at least as far as Metz.

 

If you look at the German/player units that should give you a good idea east. I'm not well researched on the German units myself.

 

[LukeFF]

38 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

If you look at the German/player units that should give you a good idea east. I'm not well researched on the German units myself.

 

@BlackSix has mentioned Mainz being on the map, so we know it's at least that far east.

[Missionbug]

6 hours ago, BlackSix said:

 So I'd not wait Bodenplatte map very soon.

 

 

I for one would be happy to see work prioritised on the map first, aircraft can wait, we can always use the existing aircraft we have while we

wait for the rest.

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Missionbug

[Hoss]

On 4/2/2018 at 6:51 AM, Hauksbee said:

Yes, and A-20's. But, as you say, "not as exciting..."

I hope they make the time and effort to model the A-20G with both the Cannon and Machine Gun load out versions and the powered turret in the rear.  That would also be an addition for the Pacific expansion. 

 

Hoss

 

[Jade_Monkey]

10 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

Thanks! Didn´t know that. Hmm it was mentioned 2016 and then went silent... 

 

I checked the russian forum thead about Odessa last night and there have been no news for months.

[Enceladus828]

7 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Well the 365th is a player squadron, so takes you southwest at least as far as Metz.

 

If you look at the German/player units that should give you a good idea east. I'm not well researched on the German units myself.

 

Probably the Ardennes and the Low Countries like Northeast France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and possibly Northwest Germany.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Novice-Flyer
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[hames123]

On 29/04/2018 at 12:44 AM, GreenSound said:

Pretty sure Victory lay solely on the Brazilians. What would we have done without them?

 

Please. It is clear that the nation that brought victory to the Allies was... Spain. Absolutely decisive intervention when it was needed the most. 

 

 

 

Wait. 

On 30/04/2018 at 4:37 AM, Rjel said:

 

Sadly, Youtube is chock full of that kind of malarkey of most WWII era videos. That, I think,  is an even bigger threat to history.

 

Yes. I honestly think a group of top historians should get together and help clear youtube of fake history/historiography. But that would be infringing on people's freedom of speech.

[Gambit21]

Pfff! As if "top historians" can  tell you the whole story either. Many of them don't know and those that do will get censored.

 

I can site multiple examples but I'm afraid it would devolve into politics.

 

Germany sure had a lot of Ford vehicles. Go down that rabbit-hole for some real history.

 

 

 

[Royal_Flight]

On 01/05/2018 at 7:25 PM, 19//Hoss said:

I hope they make the time and effort to model the A-20G with both the Cannon and Machine Gun load out versions and the powered turret in the rear.  That would also be an addition for the Pacific expansion. 

 

Hoss

 

 

I hope we at least get some new A-20 skins for BoBo as the promised RAF skin never materialised in the BoK release. 

The Boston III (basically the A-20B) was still in use with the RAF during D-Day and the Normandy campaign so not improbable that it would be in the skies over Belgium and the Netherlands a few months later. 

Edited May 2, 2018 by Royal_Flight

[blitze]

1 hour ago, hames123 said:

 

Please. It is clear that the nation that brought victory to the Allies was... Spain. Absolutely decisive intervention when it was needed the most. 

 

 

 

Wait. 

 

Yes. I honestly think a group of top historians should get together and help clear youtube of fake history/historiography. But that would be infringing on people's freedom of speech.

Spain???

 

How dare you discount the part Fijians had to play in the decisive victory against the Germans in Europe!

 

Lot of stuff on YT and a lot of stuff that might be historically correct based on "Just the Facts" but is being pulled for Political reasons.  A sad state of affairs in this day and age when it comes to information.

[Rjel]

2 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Pfff! As if "top historians" can  tell you the whole story either. Many of them don't know and those that do will get censored.

 

I can site multiple examples but I'm afraid it would devolve into politics.

 

Germany sure had a lot of Ford vehicles. Go down that rabbit-hole for some real history.

 

 

 

Henry Ford's views were well know at the time. As far as Germany having Ford vehicles, Ford had factories there long before the war. It's improbable Germany just shuddered those when they declared war on the U.S.

2 hours ago, hames123 said:

Yes. I honestly think a group of top historians should get together and help clear youtube of fake history/historiography. But that would be infringing on people's freedom of speech.

It's the replies I see to most posted videos on Youtube that make my skin crawl. I've gotten to the point I rarely read them anymore.

 

I'm afraid we are approaching a point in time where WWII will join other wars and simply become history. Fewer and fewer WWII era veterans survive today. Even their children are aged now and those of us who are grandchildren are approaching that time of our lives too. Fifty years from now, WWII will take its place beside WWI, and all wars before that and will simply become a chapter in history to learn. No longer a living history as we've known it. I hope it won't be distorted so the true events disappear forever. But I guess I'll never know.

[Gambit21]

Yeah - not here Rjel.

I'm not going to take part in giving Haash a cleanup job.

 

As for the second part of your post - yep.

[Rjel]

17 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Yeah - not here Rjel.

I'm not going to take part in giving Haash a cleanup job.

 

Roger Dodger.

[Diamondaxe]

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 9:32 AM, Tuesday said:

 

 

Calm down gentlemen, we all know it was the Canadians, Aussies, and New Zealanders who 'dun it

 

 

Ahhhh....but clearly it was the work of St. Pius XII!

 

 

 

But yeah I'm considering buying the BOP preorder.....I think I'll get BOS first because I only fly the 110 and sometimes the G2 isn't available.

Edited May 3, 2018 by [BANG]Diamondaxe

[Desteban]

11 minutes ago, [BANG]Diamondaxe said:

Ahhhh....but clearly it was the work of St. Pius XII!

 

Honestly? I have a feeling you guys are downlplaying the role the german high command and Adolf himself had on the allied victory 

 

 

Anyway I am kinda new to BoX and totally want to have a FW 190 D9. Can I fly it when I preorder as soon as the plane is ready or will I have to wait till Bodenplatte is released entirely?

I mean Bodenplatte campain won't be ready until release I guess but can I fly the plane in multiplayer or some custom missions during the test phase?

[Pharoah]

23 minutes ago, Desteban said:

Anyway I am kinda new to BoX and totally want to have a FW 190 D9. Can I fly it when I preorder as soon as the plane is ready or will I have to wait till Bodenplatte is released entirely?

I mean Bodenplatte campain won't be ready until release I guess but can I fly the plane in multiplayer or some custom missions during the test phase?

 

The way 1C works is they release things one at a time or a bunch at a time - I quite like this process. As long as you've purchased BoBP then when they release the individual a/c (eg. Spit, P47, etc) as part of a patch, you should be able to use it. Heck..I'm wondering whether this would be incorporated into current maps...should be. 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

1 hour ago, Desteban said:

Anyway I am kinda new to BoX and totally want to have a FW 190 D9. Can I fly it when I preorder as soon as the plane is ready or will I have to wait till Bodenplatte is released entirely?

I mean Bodenplatte campain won't be ready until release I guess but can I fly the plane in multiplayer or some custom missions during the test phase?

The first Bodenplatte aircraft available to early access customers will be the Bf 109 G-14 and Spitfire IX. They should be released within the next few months.

 

You will be able to fly the D-9 shortly after its completion. We just don't know when the aircraft will be ready. It could be fairly soon, or it could coincide with the final release. 

 

You will be able to fly the plane in quick missions, custom missions, and maybe even multiplayer. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[ShamrockOneFive]

On 5/2/2018 at 2:36 PM, Royal_Flight said:

 

I hope we at least get some new A-20 skins for BoBo as the promised RAF skin never materialised in the BoK release. 

The Boston III (basically the A-20B) was still in use with the RAF during D-Day and the Normandy campaign so not improbable that it would be in the skies over Belgium and the Netherlands a few months later. 

 

To be a stickler... the Boston Mark III is the equivalent to the A-20C. Armor, the four .303 cal machine guns in the nose, and some other changes are all there. Plus a different glass configuration in the nose.

 

It's a totally fine stand-in (and I'd love to see some RAF skins) but its not quite the right plane. Definitely there were Boston III and Boston IV's on hand though many of these units started transitioning to the Mitchell that we'll see as an AI plane.

[Legioneod]

On 5/3/2018 at 6:48 PM, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

The first Bodenplatte aircraft available to early access customers will be the Bf 109 G-14 and Spitfire IX. They should be released within the next few months.

 

You will be able to fly the D-9 shortly after its completion. We just don't know when the aircraft will be ready. It could be fairly soon, or it could coincide with the final release. 

 

You will be able to fly the plane in quick missions, custom missions, and maybe even multiplayer. 

At least one aircraft is coming this month from what was said in the DD, I wonder if we will get both this month?

[Sharpe43]

Gameplay balance has me suspecting we would get both.

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 hours ago, Sharpe43 said:

Gameplay balance has me suspecting we would get both.

That hasn't been the driving force previously. When IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad released and the team started working on Battle of Moscow, the I-16 was the first aircraft to arrive and others came later on. Similarly, Battle of Kuban released the Bf109G-4 first and then the rest of the line-up began to appear.

 

I'd be surprised if both released at once. They may both have finished visuals at first but the team seems to do one flight model at a time, wrap it up, and then move on.

 

I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised however

[catchthefoxes]

12 hours ago, Legioneod said:

At least one aircraft is coming this month from what was said in the DD, I wonder if we will get both this month?

I hope so though people are doubting it because it never happens. One plane seems more likely or maybe two plane in a short succession, we'll have to wait and see.