Tom25briklebritt Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) @Jason_Williams Seems, that Tiger33 will not release a mod. Will you put work into plane sounds in future? I hope we will get new sounds in future. The game is nearly perfect now. You did a really great job, but sounds could still be better. Edited March 19, 2018 by Tom25briklebritt 1 2 7
sinned Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Engine sounds fine. We need radio. Why dont you go pester Tiger33 rather than Jason? Thats the guy with apparent issues who isnt releasing mods. 4
SCG_motoadve Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Engine sounds could be better though, agreed we do need radio. 1
fossmarkluni Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I think most of the German/axis planes have pretty good engine sounds, the 190, 109 and mc.202 sounds quite realistic to me. The Soviet ones are another story, I don't fly any native Soviet planes for this reason alone. Sound, especially engine sound needs to be realistic for me to enjoy flying. The Yak's for instance doesn't sound anywhere close to real IMHO. I have bought all modules and all planes to support 777 because I really like what this game has become, but engine sounds should be improved, at least for the Soviets.
AstroCat Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Please more SFX work, it would add a ton more to the immersion of the game.
Canadus Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I`m relatively new to this game and have so far only flown Axis planes, but IMHO the 109 and 190 sound quite realistic and immersive. But radio is definitely another story...
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Tried getting into FMod to make this happen but unfortunately none of my attempts worked so far. The game starts with the modified fsb file but no sound is getting played. I still have that issue and have found no way to fix this unfortunately. Maybe theres sby with more expirience who could help. This is the error I'm getting in the event player with the modified fsb file.
MarderIV Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 22 hours ago, fossmarkluni said: The Yak's for instance doesn't sound anywhere close to real IMHO Do we have an reference sounds for these Yak engines? I've looked at some videos online of Yaks - they do sound a lot different. But I keep thinking that these engines might be transplants, i.e. Allison engines vs original Klimovs. I don't know of any currently airworthy examples that use their original engines. But either way with this new update the Doppler effects does seem to be more present than previous iterations. Just that the Yak's really prominent, constant droning sound somewhat overpowers the Doppler effect.
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) There's only one Yak 9 with an original Klimov 105 engine existing. All others use different types of Allisions. This is the only footage of a Klimov 105 I could find. https://youtu.be/ettGxLDCtxU https://youtu.be/ZzcAccNLMew Edited March 21, 2018 by 6./ZG26_5tuka 1
MarderIV Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_5tuka said: This is the only footage of a Klimov 105 I could find Nice. That sounds absolutely brutal, but I think that's as much the low end sound recording hardware on whatever camera that took that video. I really wonder how the sound engineer established a model for the Klimov engine sound. As far as sounds go this sim really has it down pat somewhat, rather clearly a marked improvement over past iterations. The Kuban planes seem to have had the most work done in terms of sound - the A-20 for example when observed from the ground has a really pronounced engine and propeller noise as well as audible echoes and sound bouncing and rippling across the air (if that makes sense - I don't know much of the terms that describe aircraft engine noise as heard through the ears in real life). The A-20's engines are indeed guttural, as most radials are. But as far as observing other airworthy inline engine fighters like the Bf-109, BoM/BoS models seem to have comparatively muted Doppler effects and what not. Either that or I am not paying too close attention to it while watching my replays.
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Indeed. Sounds have been progressing and improving a lot over the last 3 years (new aircraft have twice or more the number of audio events comprared to the older BoS aircraft). As for the Yak, early in the beta it used to have Allison sounds (they're still in the libary) but has seen multiple revisions over the time to make it more distinct. It's increadible work to sample complex auido files like engine sounds to recreate sth. unheared for 60 years. No matter the result, this definetly earns respect. The video is in poor quality because the recorder stood to close to the exhaust and didn't muffle the microphone properly to capture the low frequencies not to mention losses to recording and YouTube compression quality. Also the engine is misfiring horribly in the first video. However, it can still be used as a guide for sampling authentic sounds. 1
Jade_Monkey Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I think the 109 is pretty muted as well, not enough growling sounds or base. It has much higher pitch than any recordings ive listened to.
Guest deleted@134347 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said: I think the 109 is pretty muted as well, not enough growling sounds or base. It has much higher pitch than any recordings ive listened to. yup, and at idle on the ground it sounds like a moped :D .. And I have the bass shakers under my seat. Zero bass. Zero. :D
Original_Uwe Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 The engines dont really bother me, As has been said above they seem to get better as they go along and hopefully they will get to touching up the older models soon. The guns on the other hand... 1
RFG_Hisl Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 +1 The new gunfire sounds added with V2.003 (August 2016) are horrible. Unfortunately there is no switch to reduce the volume, which is much too high compared to the enginesound volume. 2
6./ZG26_Custard Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, RFG_Hisl said: The new gunfire sounds added with V2.003 (August 2016) are horrible. It's rather ironic that many folks complained prior to the change that the gun sounds were too low prior to the update in 2016. Talking to Joe Peterburs (P-51 pilot) he told us that you couldn't really hear the guns firing because of the engine and any hits on the aircraft were felt as vibrations from the larger caliber rounds. I wish we could have very distinctively different sound within the cockpit and any outside view. Also hoping for a cracking radio mod. 1
Trooper117 Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Specific and separate sound controls so we can at least turn the radio speech up without increasing the other sounds would be a great bonus. Now that there are US and British radio traffic mods available I would at least like to hear the damn things, lol. 1
Voidhunger Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said: It's rather ironic that many folks complained prior to the change that the gun sounds were too low prior to the update in 2016. Talking to Joe Peterburs (P-51 pilot) he told us that you couldn't really hear the guns firing because of the engine and any hits on the aircraft were felt as vibrations from the larger caliber rounds. I wish we could have very distinctively different sound within the cockpit and any outside view. Also hoping for a cracking radio mod. I think Willi Reschke and Walter Shuck wrote in books that they hear sound of bullets impacting on theirs planes. Definitely near the cockpit and engine In one case (Reschke) he was hit by B17 gunner in engine and he didnt hear that (but that was probably one bullet) and in the second case I think he was hit to tail or wing and he did notice that. (from P51) Edited March 22, 2018 by Voidhunger
Uufflakke Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 On 20-3-2018 at 7:49 AM, fossmarkluni said: The Soviet ones are another story, I don't fly any native Soviet planes for this reason alone. Sound, especially engine sound needs to be realistic for me to enjoy flying. The Yak's for instance doesn't sound anywhere close to real IMHO. How do you know? When was the last time you flew a LaGG, a Mig or a Yak? 4 hours ago, Trooper117 said: Specific and separate sound controls so we can at least turn the radio speech up without increasing the other sounds would be a great bonus. Now that there are US and British radio traffic mods available I would at least like to hear the damn things, lol. That would be nice. I can not stand the German radio voices. It is only shouting. (Probably a matter of seeing too many bad WWII movies with all its cliches ) Therefor I always lower the volume as soon as German radio traffic starts.
Feathered_IV Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Yeah the German voices are consistently awful from one sim to the next. Unless it's a cultural thing and they really did do that. But how you can operate a complex piece of machinery while screaming "Johnny tater" at the top of your lungs I will never know.
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 22, 2018 1CGS Posted March 22, 2018 I don't seem to recall any major gripes with the German audio in the original IL2, perhaps because they were supposedly created by a German who went by the nickname of Meatwater. 1
sniperton Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Before doing anything please consider that many players are not native speakers. I for instance understand Oxbridge pretty well, not even an East-Coast accent or a bit of Cockney is a problem, but I'm near clueless when listening to some Scouse or something from the Mid-West, and while I understand Hochdeutsch even if mixed with Wienerisch or Bayerisch, anything else is acoustically Greek for me. Thing is, that the notoriously loud and rhetoric shouting in Italian was more comprehensible for me in the old title than what any of the English or German language packs provided. So the very first thing to decide is whether you want immersion for the native speaker or giving info for players who might or might not be native speakers. 1
Jade_Monkey Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 A20 sounds are great, i would love to see BoS sounds revamped to that level.
SAG Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I mean, i don't mind @Tiger_33 not releasing his mod to the public; i mean, it's a shame, it sounds awesome. but is his choice. i just wonder if he could help us on how to repackage new sounds into the FSB. that would be awesome!! so what do you think Tiger33? 3
Feathered_IV Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 8 hours ago, 19//SAG said: I just wonder if he could help us on how to repackage new sounds into the FSB. that would be awesome!! so what do you think Tiger33? Seems reasonable. I can't imagine that anybody would hold back on information that would benefit the community.
RustyEagle Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 why is @Tiger_33 not releasing his sound mod? i think it sounds amazing and i want to use it
Semor76 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, RustyEagle said: why is @Tiger_33 not releasing his sound mod? i think it sounds amazing and i want to use it
SCG_motoadve Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Lets no beg Tiger 33 a talented but a person who likes to show off and not share, what is the point?keep your sound mods and enjoy them, once someone else's release a sound mod no one will care or remember you. I bet there are talented guys that can do them with pleasure and be happy to share them. 1 7
Hoss Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 By improving the Radio you mean inserting English or which ever language is your native tongue in place of the Russian (allies), or German (axis) then yes I'm 100% on board for that. I always inserted the English Sound/Speach files in the old legacy IL2 as soon as they came out and never looked back. It was the first thing I wanted to get rid of in this game six years ago. So if someone comes out with a mod that replaced Sound/Speach files I'll install it immediately. With people wanting to turn off techno chat, you won't be able to understand your gunners are telling you to take evasive action because some fighter is closing in on you. I'm usually so intent on what I'm doing at the moment I completely miss those text warnings...... Cheers Hoss
SAG Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, 19//Hoss said: By improving the Radio you mean inserting English or which ever language is your native tongue in place of the Russian (allies), or German (axis) then yes I'm 100% on board for that. I always inserted the English Sound/Speach files in the old legacy IL2 as soon as they came out and never looked back. It was the first thing I wanted to get rid of in this game six years ago. So if someone comes out with a mod that replaced Sound/Speach files I'll install it immediately. With people wanting to turn off techno chat, you won't be able to understand your gunners are telling you to take evasive action because some fighter is closing in on you. I'm usually so intent on what I'm doing at the moment I completely miss those text warnings...... Cheers Hoss Actually that is possible to do right now. i only need to record the sound files. what i'd like from Tiger or any other capable person here is to help us repackage fsb files so we can remove/change some other game sounds (such as the static effect of the radio). but if you're interested in helping @19//Hoss and you can do some voice recording, i could send you a list of all the lines of dialogue that need re-recording. or if you know anyone who would do this it be also of great help. i'm going to do it myself with my crappy microphone, voice and little audio skills but it will be a functional mod, not a quality mod
Hoss Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, 19//SAG said: Actually that is possible to do right now. i only need to record the sound files. what i'd like from Tiger or any other capable person here is to help us repackage fsb files so we can remove/change some other game sounds (such as the static effect of the radio). but if you're interested in helping @19//Hoss and you can do some voice recording, i could send you a list of all the lines of dialogue that need re-recording. or if you know anyone who would do this it be also of great help. i'm going to do it myself with my crappy microphone, voice and little audio skills but it will be a functional mod, not a quality mod Never done anything like that before, but if you explain how, and what i need to do it, I'd be happy to help............ you would need to find out how many actors there are and find that many differet voices to get it done where it wasn't monotonous hearing the same voice for every actor Hoss
SAG Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 19//Hoss said: Never done anything like that before, but if you explain how, and what i need to do it, I'd be happy to help............ you would need to find out how many actors there are and find that many differet voices to get it done where it wasn't monotonous hearing the same voice for every actor Hoss Yeah, there are 5 different actors (for pilots) id like to find four other people to do it so we have some variety. and sure, ill show you how! i guess ill start a thread for this. give me a minute!
Tiger_33 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, II./JG77_motoadve said: Lets no beg Tiger 33 a talented but a person who likes to show off and not share, what is the point? Hey stop with that .. have you forgotten ? not share ?? https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3258.0.html (Read 241178 times) not share........ Edited March 25, 2018 by Tiger_33 1 1
Danziger Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, Tiger_33 said: Hey stop with that .. have you forgotten ? not share ?? https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3258.0.html (Read 241178 times) not share........ Will that work with the new IL*2 as well?
Tiger_33 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said: Will that work with the new IL*2 as well? With this il2 BOS/BOK ?......sure NO! 1
Danziger Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tiger_33 said: With this il2 BOS/BOK ?......sure NO! So why would you put it in here?? This is confusing... 3
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