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1 hour ago, 216th_Cat said:

The poor old Il-2s don't stand a chance against the 30mm. Whereas we used to be able take masses of damage and keep going now one or two hits take the wings or tail straight off. A very effective weapon indeed. How did the VVS fight against it? Or do we create an artificial situation in BoX in that too many fighters are down low, having no high altitude targets to go for? I realise that combat on the Eastern front was primarily at lower altitudes than in the West and we have combats that don't really reflect reality because of the game's limitations, but I wonder.

 

Edit: just came across this - interesting. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/11/06/il-2-combat-operations-during-1943-1944/

 

However, the successes of attack aircraft combat operations were accomplished with great losses. The Luftwaffe Command claimed that the Russians lost 6,900 Il-2s in 1943 and 7,300 in the following year. Although these figures exaggerated the losses by a factor of 2 to 2.2, they were substantial nonetheless. In 1943 one loss corresponded to 26 Il-2 sorties, and to even fewer in certain operations. Approximately half of those lost were shot down by enemy fighters, the other half falling to anti-aircraft fire of ground-based guns. Assessing the main reasons for such great losses, the Air Force Commander, A Novikov, considered that poor training of the crews and units was not to blame, but attributed them to flawed tactical procedures in attack aircraft operation. On almost all fronts the pilots adopted a peculiar scheme of approaching the target at 3,300 to 4,900ft (1,000 to 1,500m) altitude without considering its nature, then gliding down and recovering after the attack with a turn, to port. The enemy therefore knew the ‘attackers’ manoeuvres beforehand, and prepared all of his anti-aircraft defences, taking full advantage of relief features, forest, bushes etc, before their appearance over the battlefield.

The German Bf 109 and Focke-Wulf Fw 190 attacked successfully when the Il-2 gunners were inattentive and the formations were broken up. A damaged and lagging Il-2 often became the victim of fighters. However, attack aircraft pilots could sometimes use skilful defensive tactics, and gunners mastered aggressive fire techniques.

 

A loss rate of 1 in 26 sorties would do me! At a rate of 3 to 4 sorties per FNBF then you Luftwaffe fighter guys would need to leave us alone for at least two months! :biggrin:

 

22 of those were vodka runs though...

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Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission September 14th: "Pounder!" AAR

 

PounderAAR_1b.jpg

 

Axis:

 

Destroyed 2 Factory Sections. 6 Factory Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. Ust' Labinskaya.
Destroyed 4 Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 3 Control Towers. Guriyskaya.
Destroyed 1 Kv_1 Armored Column. Saratovskaya.
Destroyed 6 T-34/76. 6 Air/Action.
Engaged and Destroyed 3 T-34/76. 3 Tank/Action.
Destroyed 4 Kv_1-42 Anti-Tank/Action.
Engaged and Destroyed 5 Kv-1. 5 Tank/Action.
Destroyed 2 T-70. 2 Air/Action.
Shot Down 6 IL2-43. 4 Air/Action. 2 Flak.
Shot Down 6 Yak1-B. 6 Air/Action.
Shot Down 6 A-20B. 6 Air/Action.
Shot Down 3 Spitfire MkIXe. 3 Air/Action.
Shot Down 2 Pe-2 s.87. 1 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
12 Flak/Vehicles. Guriyskaya. Ust' Labinskaya.

 

Ju-52 Operations:
17th Army Lines Ryazanskaya Supplied via Field Cargo Deliveries.
Wounded Transferred Korenovskaya Field Hospital to 17th Army Hospital Krasnodar

 

Losses:

Dinkskaya Fuel and Ammo Depot Destroyed.
Ryazanskaya 17th Army Lines Falling back with Heavy Losses.
Saratovskaya Anti-Tank Line Destroyed.
9 Fuel Bunkers. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 vl_Factories. 1 Supply Hanger. 2 Dugout Complexes. Dinkskaya.
4 Dugout Complexes. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Fuel Bunkers. 1 Control Tower. Ryazanskaya.
1 Bridge. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 2 Control Towers. 1 Supply Hanger. Saratovskaya.
4 PzMkIV-G Destroyed. 1 Air/Action. 3 Anti-Tank/Action.
3 Pak-40 Destroyed. 2 Air/Action. 1 Anti-Tank/Action.
2 88mm Anti-Tank Guns Destroyed. 2 Anti-Tank/Action.
1 Tiger MkVI Engaged and Destroyed. 1 Tank/Action.
5 Bf109G-14 lost. 5 Air/Action.
1 Fw190A-8 lost. 1 Flak.
5 Bf110G-2 lost. 5 Air/Action.
5 Bf109G-6 lost. 1 Air/Action.
3 Ju-52 lost. 3 Air/Action.
25 Flak/Vehicles. Dinskaya. Saratovskaya. Ryazanskaya. Vasurinskaya.
5 Pilots/Gunners.
1 MIA/Captured
 
VVS:

 

Destroyed Dinkskaya Fuel and Ammo Depot.
Ryazanskaya 17th Army Lines Falling back with Heavy Losses.
Destroyed Saratovskaya Anti-Tank Line.
Destroyed 9 Fuel Bunkers. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 vl_Factories. 1 Supply Hanger. 2 Dugout Complexes. Dinkskaya.
Destroyed 4 Dugout Complexes. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Fuel Bunkers. 1 Control Tower. Ryazanskaya.
Destroyed 1 Bridge. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 2 Control Towers. 1 Supply Hanger. Saratovskaya.
Destroyed 4 PzMkIV-G. 1 Air/Action. 3 Anti-Tank/Action.
Destroyed 3 Pak-40. 2 Air/Action. 1 Anti-Tank/Action.
Destroyed 2 88mm Anti-Tank Guns. 2 Anti-Tank/Action.
Engaged and Destroyed 1 Tiger MkVI. 1 Tank/Action.
Shot Down 5 Bf109G-14. 5 Air/Action.
Shot Down 1 Fw190A-8. 1 Flak.
Shot Down 5 Bf110G-2. 5 Air/Action.
Shot Down 5 Bf109G-6. 1 Air/Action.
Shot Down 3 Ju-52. 3 Air/Action.
25 Flak/Vehicles. Dinskaya. Saratovskaya. Ryazanskaya. Vasurinskaya.

 

Losses:
2 Factory Sections. 6 Factory Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. Ust' Labinskaya.
4 Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 3 Control Towers. Guriyskaya.
1 Kv_1 Armored Column. Saratovskaya.
6 T-34/76 Destroyed. 6 Air/Action.
3 T-34/76 Engaged and Destroyed. 3 Tank/Action.
4 Kv_1-42 Destroyed Anti-Tank/Action.
5 Kv-1 Engaged and Destroyed. 5 Tank/Action.
2 T-70 Destroyed. 2 Air/Action.
6 IL2-43 lost. 4 Air/Action. 2 Flak.
6 Yak1-B lost. 6 Air/Action.
6 A-20B lost. 6 Air/Action.
3 Spitfire MkIXe lost. 3 Air/Action.
2 Pe-2 s.87 lost. 1 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
12 Flak/Vehicles. Guriyskaya. Ust' Labinskaya.
13 Pilots/Gunners.
8 MIA/Captured

 

Pilot Stats*
Thanks Marta!

 

Great Time and Well Flown All.
Participation makes it Happen.

We'll look into a new mission after the next update.
Tip

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so many Russian tanks lost in ground action... i wonder what happened there 😄 

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Hi motoadve. Due to time constraints FNBF is no longer a weekly event, but will take place now and than. Since the creative head behind FNBF has escaped the treadmill of weekly deliverance ,  FNBF missions will be even more elaborated and precious. :)

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I do not mind it , really, But might I suggest a little change in the plane set while at it. I really hoped to fly last time, but due to no HE 111 pilots we ended up with 3 JU 52 pilots for 2 JU 52 available .

Now I would not mind flying Co pilot but sitting in gunner position is a bit off. Can we have a plan B next time. If a similar thing happens next time can we use more on one type of airplane if all slots are taken, and numbers are to few to make two flights? As said earlier the fewer FNBF the more precious 

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Next Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission to be October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!"

 

Plane set, mission info and signups will be next Sunday Oct. 7th.

See ya's,

Tip

 

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50 minutes ago, [DBS]Tx_Tip said:

Next Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission to be October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!"

Yepeee! yet another fantastic mission! thank you so much Tip! I know it is a lot of work!

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Spits not cooling and bridges are down.

Prepare to go retro on this one unless the P-47 makes an appearance in which case the plane set will be adjusted accordingly...

Tip

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7 hours ago, [DBS]Tx_Tip said:

Spits not cooling and bridges are down.

Prepare to go retro on this one unless the P-47 makes an appearance in which case the plane set will be adjusted accordingly...

Tip

 

 Retro? I-16s and the Moscow map? :dance:

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11 hours ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said:

I would love to go back to moscow!

 

I know u want fly the Emil. That's a good idea if i can fly in may little 1B. 😄

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Friday Night Bomber Flights October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!"
RoadsteadPoster_1.jpg


Mission Time: 07:03-09:45
Conditions: 3*c... Cloudy. Steady Winds from the NE.
Situation:
1942 Kerch Front
 
***Please note Time Change to 19:00 UTC. 

**Patrol areas will be shown on Map. Additional targeting if needed to be sent via PM following Player Recon. Full FNBF ROE will apply.
*UK_1 Server Settings for Friday Night Bomber Flights will be Full CEM, No Icon, No Navigational aides.

*TS will be the Official BoS server (108.61.114.3:9407) password bos2014; in one of the MP Channels.
*Note IP Change to BoS TS.
=Backup TS Address will be: ts3.riseofflight.net:7777 - Password: 1917

 

Planeset:
Axis
 Ju-88A-3 (4)

 1) Jantzen
 2) vonJarno
 3) SCG_Boo
 4)

 

 BF110E-2 (2)

 1) 6./ZG26_Kruppis
 2) 6./ZG26_Memphis

 

 Ju-87D-3 (4)

 1) WWGriphos
 2) 6./ZG26_BlueBunny
 3) SCG_CorZero
 4) 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

 

 BF109F-2 (10)

 1) 6./ZG26_Asgar
 2) steinh0ff
 3) Jizzo
 4) II/JG11PUMA
 5) II/JG11ATLAN
 6) II/JG11Terzerole
 7) SCG_Riksen
 8) SCG_
 9) SCG_
10) SCG_

 

 Ju-52 (2)

 1) Nil
 2) JG5_Schuck

 

VVS

 IL2-41 (3)

 1) 216th_Cathaoir
 2) 216th_Cat
 3) 216th_Nocke

 

 P-40E (4)

 1) [DBS]
 2) [DBS]
 3) Bladebender
 4) 307th

 

 Pe-2 s.35/A-20B (5)

 1) [DBS]
 2) [DBS]
 3) [DBS]
 4) 216th Retnek
 5) 13Nrv

*STB Bex

 

 I-16 (2)

 1) 307th_Tomcat
 2) 307th_Banzai

 

 Lagg-3 (3)

 1) NN_Razor
 2) NN_Oscar
 3) NN_Lambert
 4) NN_Tango

 

 Mig-3 (5)
 1) 216th_Lucas
 2) 1.JaVA_Biggles
 3) 1.JaVA_Keben
 4) 216th_Pod
 5) 1.JaVA_Jumper
 
*Planeset may be subject to slight revision as I create the mission.
Signup Here...
Full Signup, Roster sheet visit our Battle-fields site Here...

Look forward to flying with you.
Tip

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1 minute ago, 216th_Cathaoir said:

Hi Tip...can I get 2 Il2's for me and Cat....thanks

I thought Cat wanted to fly the I-16...

NP though. In as IL2s...

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1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Kuppis said:

2 bf110 and 2 bf 109 f2 for 6./zg26 please!

In...

13 minutes ago, 216th_Lucas_From_Hell said:

MiG-3 please!

and In...

22 minutes ago, NN_Razor said:

Two Lag3 for NN_Oscar and me please.

 

Done...

1 hour ago, II/JG11ATLAN said:

3x Bf109  F2 for Puma terzerole and Atlan please

Thx II/JG11 

and Done...

1 hour ago, WWGriphos said:

I’ll take a Stuka, please. 

You got it...

1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_BlueBunny said:

Hello Tip,can I have a Ju 87 please?

You bet BlueBunny and Welcome to FNBFs...

 

1 hour ago, Jizzo said:

F2 please.

F2 it is...

1 hour ago, 216th_Nocke said:

I'll take the 3rd IL2, please!

Down with the IL2...

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16 hours ago, 216th_Retnek said:

I'd gladly take a Pe-2, please!

You got it...

13 hours ago, SCG_Riksen said:

4 F2s please

SCG down with the F-2s...

8 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Can you please put me on reserve on the JU 52 or JU 87, Think I will be able to join

Reserve it is for the Luse...

 

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Comrades needed for Migs, Laggs, I-16s and a P-40...

Axis Strike aircraft are open for business.

Tip

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Hi Tip

 

4x Mig3 for1.JaVA please😅

 

1.JaVA_Biggles

1.JaVA_Keben

1.JaVA_Chanceless

1.JaVA_Jumper

Thanx & Cheers

Biggles

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1 hour ago, 1.JaVA_Biggles said:

Hi Tip

 

4x Mig3 for1.JaVA please😅

 

1.JaVA_Biggles

1.JaVA_Keben

1.JaVA_Chanceless

1.JaVA_Jumper

Thanx & Cheers

Biggles

Here we go now...

 

46 minutes ago, 216th_Pod said:

Can you sign me up for an I-16, please?

You bet Pod...

 

==================================

 

Axis needs Ju-88 and Stuka pilots.

I-16 a couple Laggs and a P-40 remain for VVS.

 

Full Signup, Roster sheet above or visit our Battle-fields site Here...

Look forward to flying with you.
Tip

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Hello,

 

one Ju-88 please, if that is okey.

 

Greetings

J

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