Finnish VirtualPilots - Dynamic War

[CountZero]

14 hours ago, Krupnski said:

I think you'll find the 190s will make easy work of most P38 anyways, and it won't escape the 109s in a dive either. It can always be adjusted if it doesn't work out.

Oh i know it dosent give big advantages, there is other airplanes in that set more usefule, but i was just suprised that 1944 airplane was moved so early for no reason obvious to me. It become cler when i was informed that you give them advices, as i remenber you like 38s.

 

Now it seams there is great deal of shifting of airplanes done so plansets are balanced. But how is then still in last set 262. It cant be balanced by any other airplane, it outperformes any other airplane by great deal (more perf diff then Typhoon does to 109g6late or La5Fn does to 190As or 109Gs and so on, that got shifted so they face more stronger airplanes).

If decision is made that all airplanes in game have to be used no mather what, and mostly axis players think that small numbers of 262 airplanes dont make big deal, and they are easy to avoid and fight with airplanes that cant match it, why then allieds dont have one set where they have small number of airplane that heavy outperfomes axis airplane in that set.

 

For example why not add Tempest +11lbs in set 5, limit it in same way like 262 is limited in set 8. Then Allieds have one set with their best plane facing axis airplanes that cant match him in performance, not as big differance like 262 have but its something atleast. Then you have balanced sets without having to remove 262, and not whats now where we pretend both side have it eaqual, but thats mostly true up untill set 8 where axis get awarded for some reason with having airplane that outperforms anything els.

 

I dont see any reason why anyone would be ugenst it, if small numbers of 262 are not problem for allieds to deal with, why would small numbers of allied best airplane be problem for axis to deal with, if they know its there they can easy avoid it and so on...while they are in heat of battle with balanced airplanes.

Edited October 2, 2021 by CountZero

[iFoxRomeo]

8 hours ago, CountZero said:

Oh i know it dosent give big advantages, there is other airplanes in that set more usefule, but i was just suprised that 1944 airplane was moved so early for no reason obvious to me. It become cler when i was informed that you give them advices, as i remenber you like 38s.

 

Now it seams there is great deal of shifting of airplanes done so plansets are balanced. But how is then still in last set 262. It cant be balanced by any other airplane, it outperformes any other airplane by great deal (more perf diff then Typhoon does to 109g6late or La5Fn does to 190As or 109Gs and so on, that got shifted so they face more stronger airplanes).

If decision is made that all airplanes in game have to be used no mather what, and mostly axis players think that small numbers of 262 airplanes dont make big deal, and they are easy to avoid and fight with airplanes that cant match it, why then allieds dont have one set where they have small number of airplane that heavy outperfomes axis airplane in that set.

 

For example why not add Tempest +11lbs in set 5, limit it in same way like 262 is limited in set 8. Then Allieds have one set with their best plane facing axis airplanes that cant match him in performance, not as big differance like 262 have but its something atleast. Then you have balanced sets without having to remove 262, and not whats now where we pretend both side have it eaqual, but thats mostly true up untill set 8 where axis get awarded for some reason with having airplane that outperforms anything els.

 

I dont see any reason why anyone would be ugenst it, if small numbers of 262 are not problem for allieds to deal with, why would small numbers of allied best airplane be problem for axis to deal with, if they know its there they can easy avoid it and so on...while they are in heat of battle with balanced airplanes.

Thanks for the confirmation...

 

Dude, if the 262 hurts you so much, why don't you try Axis side during the last planeset, and all your fears will go away.

 

 

During Q3/2021:

 

Bf109 F-4 6112 Kills

Hurricane 5385 Kills

Tempest 2798 Kills

Spit XIV 1139 Kills

IL2 AM-38F 278 Kills

Me262 259 Kills

 

Krupnski 1265 Kills ->53 with Me262, 20% of all Me262 kills during that time.

 

I'd be afraid of Krupnski and not of a Me262 or any other aircraft.

 

With the stats FVP provide, I can't take anyone serious who is crying about the 262. This ac is extremely limited in availability.

 

[SIA_Sp00k]

Anyone know how I register the Squadron on the Finnish Dynamic stats page?

[CCG_Pips]

25 minutes ago, TWC_Sp00k said:

Anyone know how I register the Squadron on the Finnish Dynamic stats page?

 

Hello,

 

You have to register on Finnish server, then goes on "my squadron" and create your squad. You have to minimum 4 x pilots/tankers to see your squad in stats and ALL 4 x mates have to fly/drive minimum one mission.

 

Bye

[ShampooX]

Since Q3 is about to end Q4 is about to begin here is a brief update on the TOP 5 LIVE KILL Tankmen.  I wish Q4 would incorporate more points for PvP tank kills instead of having the best players focus on nothing but AI.  Imagine AI still moves the map, but live kills move the rankings....so to speak.  Anyway, in order of overall rankings, from the top 40:

 

Klaus 94: 115 Medium/15 Heavy

Vonalba: 110 Medium/28 Heavy

Chaintong: 136 Medium/16 Heavy

Player 72818: 118 Medium/17 Heavy

EvilShampoo: 90 Medium/31 Heavy

 

In the hunt thru top 60: Dadi, HeinzBar, Elma 666, Leady Brikov, Chuter, Morgoth, Haza

 

Thats alot of live tanking guys - awesome job.

 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

I have been searching through the stats to try to identify who the group of people are that do the heavy lifting to supply airfields.  Unfortunately I was not able to figure it out, doesn't look like that's possible.  I have done a few such missions myself and know they aren't always milk runs.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to give a shout out to those who keep the rest of us flying and say thank you.  S!

 

If I could suggest maybe the stats could reflect separate virtual lives for transports and para-drops.  Unless I am missing something, as it stands they appear to be an unknown quantity.

[KG200_Achilleus]

still Q3 running?

look forward for Q4!!

keep going guys you have build one of the most realistic-interesting and enjoyable campaign ever since this game is out!

Edited October 3, 2021 by KG200_Achilles

[LLv34_Temuri]

14 hours ago, KG200_Achilles said:

still Q3 running?

We applied the "new tour by map win" stats mod by Revolves. The tour will change when the map is won.

[Robli]

Speaking of tank kills and stats, would be nice if tank kills could be separate category for pilots, too. Right now they are under the same Ground Kill category like everything else on the ground, but it kind of takes a different kind of special approach to kill tanks, so a separate category would be nice to see. Same for ships. 

[13/JG5_Luck]

On 10/2/2021 at 9:43 PM, iFoxRomeo said:

Thanks for the confirmation...

 

Dude, if the 262 hurts you so much, why don't you try Axis side during the last planeset, and all your fears will go away.

 

 

During Q3/2021:

 

Bf109 F-4 6112 Kills

Hurricane 5385 Kills

Tempest 2798 Kills

Spit XIV 1139 Kills

IL2 AM-38F 278 Kills

Me262 259 Kills

 

Krupnski 1265 Kills ->53 with Me262, 20% of all Me262 kills during that time.

 

I'd be afraid of Krupnski and not of a Me262 or any other aircraft.

 

With the stats FVP provide, I can't take anyone serious who is crying about the 262. This ac is extremely limited in availability.

 

Thx iFoxRomeo for your comment. It would be nice, if people would stick to facts rather than feelings. It would minimize all that useless drivel as well.

Dear server admins,

I wonder what happened to the FVP stats, 4th quarter has started, but not in the stats? Any reason for that?

 

Greetings

[CountZero]

On 10/2/2021 at 9:43 PM, iFoxRomeo said:

Thanks for the confirmation...

 

Dude, if the 262 hurts you so much, why don't you try Axis side during the last planeset, and all your fears will go away.

 

 

During Q3/2021:

 

Bf109 F-4 6112 Kills

Hurricane 5385 Kills

Tempest 2798 Kills

Spit XIV 1139 Kills

IL2 AM-38F 278 Kills

Me262 259 Kills

 

Krupnski 1265 Kills ->53 with Me262, 20% of all Me262 kills during that time.

 

I'd be afraid of Krupnski and not of a Me262 or any other aircraft.

 

With the stats FVP provide, I can't take anyone serious who is crying about the 262. This ac is extremely limited in availability.

 

So whats the problem then for making planset balanced and not pro axis, by giving allieds in set 5 also same number of tempests like axis have 262s in set 8.

Why are you so afraid of Tempest ?

 

Typhoon is to good we need to move it for balance reasons, La5FN is to good we need to move it for balanced reasons, 262 cant be balanced, have to be here because history, we dont wont to make one set like that for allieds, lol ok no bias selection what so ever.

 

Oh look airplane that is flown more have more kills LOL, some great data you have there,

some more data to what you posted:

Bf109 F-4 Kills per death 1.42, kills per hour 1.86

Hurricane  Kills per death 1.38, kills per hour 1.84

Tempest  Kills per death 1.57, kills per hour 1.95

Spit XIV Kills per death 1.37, kills per hour 1.77

IL2 AM-38F  Kills per death 0.52, kills per hour 0.8

Me262  Kills per death 5.08, kills per hour 1.81

 

So for same k/h it has 3 times higher k/d of player, wonder what airplane is outliner out of all of them. Must be just players skill not airplane that so outperforms others that is like having cheat skills turned on, how is then aim of planset to give balance sets for both sides, and have one set only for axis with airplane like that, either remove outliner or give allieds same in one set to balance it out. Stats make it obvious how good it is, we need to stick to facts rather than feelings.

Edited October 5, 2021 by CountZero

[iFoxRomeo]

3 hours ago, CountZero said:

So whats the problem then for making planset balanced and not pro axis, by giving allieds in set 5 also same number of tempests like axis have 262s in set 8.

Why are you so afraid of Tempest ?

You are making stuff up.

Where did I say anything about balance?

I said that there is no basis for the crying about the 262.

I did say that I'm not afraid of any plane, that includes the Tempest. How do you come to the conclusion I would be afraid of the Tempest?

 

3 hours ago, CountZero said:

Typhoon is to good we need to move it for balance reasons, La5FN is to good we need to move it for balanced reasons, 262 cant be balanced, have to be here because history, we dont wont to make one set like that for allieds, lol ok no bias selection what so ever.

Are you talking to yourself? What is this nonsense supposed to be?

That's not very constructive.

 

3 hours ago, CountZero said:

Oh look airplane that is flown more have more kills LOL, some great data you have there,

some more data to what you posted:

Bf109 F-4 Kills per death 1.42, kills per hour 1.86

Hurricane  Kills per death 1.38, kills per hour 1.84

Tempest  Kills per death 1.57, kills per hour 1.95

Spit XIV Kills per death 1.37, kills per hour 1.77

IL2 AM-38F  Kills per death 0.52, kills per hour 0.8

Me262  Kills per death 5.08, kills per hour 1.81

 

So for same k/h it has 3 times higher k/d of player, wonder what airplane is outliner out of all of them. Must be just players skill not airplane that so outperforms others that is like having cheat skills turned on, how is then aim of planset to give balance sets for both sides, and have one set only for axis with airplane like that, either remove outliner or give allieds same in one set to balance it out.

K/D on a server with unlimited lives... Yeah totally relevant... On TAW it would have a relevance, but not on Finnish.

K/H is relevant as this puts the aircrafts impact into relation to other (fighter)aircraft. 

 

3 hours ago, CountZero said:

Stats make it obvious how good it is, we need to stick to facts rather than feelings.

Yes, but cherrypicking doesn't help. Still during the whole 3rd QT of 2021, only 259 aircraft got shot down by Me262s, that's a ridiculously low number compared to the kills of other fighteraircraft. It's impact on the total game-experience on this server is very limited.

[69TD_Hajo_Garlic]

 

8 hours ago, iFoxRomeo said:

K/D on a server with unlimited lives... Yeah totally relevant

I think it perfectly portrays how meta a plane is against the competition in its plane sets. What is a better metric?

 

i didn’t have time this quarter to fly much at all but my schedule is opening back up. im gonnaground pound for the axis next quarter because they clearly need the help there and drive Sherman’s for the allies when they are out numbered but the 262 is clearly in a class of its own and doesn’t make for a good fun competition. It might be fun to use it to stat pad or maybe it feels cool to get 8 kills in a sortie when your aircraft is 100mph faster and has double the weight of fire per second. This isn’t real life where you want an unfair fight, this is a game where friendly competition is more fun for all and the me262 is unparalleled.

the place where it makes sense to have it are in (quasi) historical missions but this doesn’t seem like the place to me. 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Hajo_Garlic

[KG200_Achilleus]

12 hours ago, iFoxRomeo said:

 

K/D on a server with unlimited lives... Yeah totally relevant... On TAW it would have a relevance, but not on Finnish.

 

 

All servers have unlimited lives, the deference is that some gives you a big time penalty if you get killed, and some others gives you a smaller one.

this has to do with the difficulty that every server has, and not with the realism.

the same example goes with the plane loss, to not have available a specific plane if you lost it, has to do with the difficulty level and not with the realism..

Many people here confuse those two words( difficulty-realism) and make them selfs think that they are playing something more realistic than others do…

 

p.s. I cant imagine Hartmann, or someone else from the total 115 german pilots that had over 100kills scored, coming back to base from a bailed out nearby mission, and telling them “look you lost the Dora so now you can only take a G4 or an A3 and leave the Doras alone to the hangar, until you give me a 2 hour flight with no plane damage or 3 confirmed kills”…

lol

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

On 11/24/2020 at 5:07 PM, H_Stiglitz said:

Tacview is disabled at the moment due to an exploit that can be used. Once it‘s fixed i‘m pretty sure they turn it back on

 

Apparently Tacview is still off due to this.  Is this an IL-2 GB or a Tacview issue?

 

Does Tacview also cause any lag, etc.?

 

[LLv34_Temuri]

19 minutes ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

Is this an IL-2 GB or a Tacview issue?

Il-2 writes the Tacview file in real-time. At least I haven't seen this changed.

 

Don't know about any lag created by Tacview.

[ilmavoimat]

What's happened to the U-2??? Has it been removed from the planeset permanently?

[LLv34_Temuri]

8 minutes ago, ilmavoimat said:

What's happened to the U-2??? Has it been removed from the planeset permanently?

My bad. Po-2 should be there in all sets. I'll fix this.

[Diggun]

37 minutes ago, LLv34_Temuri said:

My bad. Po-2 should be there in all sets. I'll fix this.

Phew!

[ilmavoimat]

4 hours ago, LLv34_Temuri said:

My bad. Po-2 should be there in all sets. I'll fix this.

Thanks for that, miss the fun of dodging uberfighters in a stringbag!

[13/JG5_Luck]

I wonder about the stats for the 4th quarter 2021. October flights are recorded under 3rd quarter?

[69TD_Hajo_Garlic]

3 hours ago, 13/JG5_Luck said:

I wonder about the stats for the 4th quarter 2021. October flights are recorded under 3rd quarter?

The quarter will change when one side wins the current map.

[LLv34_Temuri]

2 hours ago, Hajo_Garlic said:

The quarter will change when one side wins the current map.

The _tour_ will change.

[LLv34_Temuri]

The idle kick issue should now be fixed.

[iFoxRomeo]

On 10/6/2021 at 1:19 AM, Hajo_Garlic said:

 

I think it perfectly portrays how meta a plane is against the competition in its plane sets. What is a better metric?

 

The 262 is so extremely limited in AVAILABILITY, so much that it doesn't matter how high its K/D is. Those who manage to get one do normally take extreme care of it. They often land, repair, rearm, refuel.

 

Once again: 259 aircraft have been shot down by Me262 in the whole 3rd quarter of 2021. Do you think this is a lot?

 

 

On 10/6/2021 at 1:19 AM, Hajo_Garlic said:

... It might be fun to use it to stat pad or maybe it feels cool to get 8 kills in a sortie when your aircraft is 100mph faster and has double the weight of fire per second...

 

There were only 8(yes eight) pilots in the whole 3.QT, who had killstreaks of 8+ with the 262.

 

For comparison the Tempest:

32 Pilots with a Killstreak of 8+

 

It gets even better for the Spitfire IX:

44 Pilots with a Killstreak of 8+

 

So if you want to stat pad, take another plane, because the chances to get a 262 are very low. And even then it's not guaranteed to give you the stats you would want.

 

The following diagram shows 3.QT best airkill streak in a single flight and the 2nd best airkill streak in a single flight for some airframes.

 

The 17 kills for the E-7 is a rare once in a leap year event. 2.QT had the A3 with 15 kills, F-4 with 14 kills, Typhoon with 13 kills in one single flight.

 

If you check the Me262 stats you will find, that Krupnski had a 23 killstreak in a sortie. But he landed and repaired several times in this case. The stat system considers a sortie to be "join the aircraft till leave the aircraft" and not from "takeoff till landing".

 

I checked lots of single sorties for the above mentioned airframes, to be sure that this diagram is not about single sorties but about single flights.

 

In most cases people didn't land and repair, they just finish the mission and take a new aircraft.

 

For the 23 Kill flight Krupnski was 2:40h in the same aircraft, 3 flights in one sortie.

For the 10 kill flight in the Typhoon he was  0:46h in the aircraft and only took off and landed once.

 

As you can see, the 262 doesn't give you magical powers for stats padding.

 

If you're good, you're good in most airframes,

if you're bad, you're bad even in the best airframe.

 

 

On 10/6/2021 at 1:19 AM, Hajo_Garlic said:

This isn’t real life where you want an unfair fight, this is a game where friendly competition is more fun for all and the me262 is unparalleled.

the place where it makes sense to have it are in (quasi) historical missions but this doesn’t seem like the place to me. 

Sorry but this is nonsense. Noone wants a "fair" fight on a server with this setting.

For a fair fight you need a duell server. Same start-condition, same aircraft.

And the FVP server is certainly not a duell server.

 

On 10/6/2021 at 10:11 AM, KG200_Achilles said:

All servers have unlimited lives, the deference is that some gives you a big time penalty if you get killed, and some others gives you a smaller one.

 

We are limited by available playtime, right?

Luckily nobody dies in reality, when he gets shot down in the game.

So if you have 2 hours per day to fly IL2, then it does matter whether you can jump into a new aircraft after getting shot down, or have to wait for 2 hours. Because then your flight on that server would be over for this day.

 

On FVP you don't have to wait. You can jump right into the next aircraft and continue.

Your virtual death is of little consequence for you. Sure the team misses one aircraft till you're back in the air.

 

If average Joe flys the K4 for 100h, he kills on average 203 aircraft, despite being shot down 150 times and having to take a new plane, start the engine, take off and fly to the combat area each time.

 

If average John takes the 262 for 100h, he'll kill 181 aircraft, although he didn't have to start, take off and fly to the combat area as often as Joe had to with the K4, because John was shot down only 36 times.

 

So who took down more aircraft of the allied team and perhaps thus prevented the allies from successfully bombing a ground target and thus making an advance on the map?

 

I'm not saying the 262 is useless

I'm not saying the 262 is not dangerous

 

I'm saying that the fuss and crying about the Me262 on this server is simply not justified when you look at the stats and the aircraft's impact on the gameplay on this server. Especially considering that it is only available in one planeset.

 

This is valid for this server, as the limits Temuri imposed on the Me262 lead to these results in QT3/21. The numbers for the other QT are similar. 1.QT21 had a peak of 370 kills for the Me262, but other than that it was always below 300 kills per QT for the last year.

 

Totally unresticted 262s would ruin the allies' day, but this is not the situation we have on the FVP server. Perhaps a special event with high performing allied planes vs unrestricted 262s could confirm this?

 

On 10/6/2021 at 10:11 AM, KG200_Achilles said:

this has to do with the difficulty that every server has, and not with the realism.

the same example goes with the plane loss, to not have available a specific plane if you lost it, has to do with the difficulty level and not with the realism..

Many people here confuse those two words( difficulty-realism) and make them selfs think that they are playing something more realistic than others do…

 

Who is talking about realism?

[LLv34_Temuri]

24 minutes ago, iFoxRomeo said:

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Thank you to @=FEW=Revolves for the aircraft stats mod

[CountZero]

Axis logic , 262 is not so great even though stats show it and in game performance is out of this world when compared to airplanes it faces. and at same time, mig 3 cant be fighting E7s or F2, its to strong, Typhoon and LA5FN cant be fighting G4, G6, A3, A5, A6 they are to strong, 7 sets need to be balanced, and fact that in set 8 axis side have unbalanced airplane dosent mather we cant just make one set allied strong to balance that out same way, it just have to stay like that nothing can be done. 30mm gun on 109G6 is not big advantage as you have to get in position to use it, 109G6 is bad airplane so no limiting, but 20mm on hurricane is to op, or 37mm on lagg3, LOL 

Edited October 8, 2021 by CountZero

[Robli]

I have not seen anybody here claiming that "Me-262 is not great", but that the impact of that great plane with limited availability is so small that it is not worth whining about for weeks. I really have not noticed any axis whining about Mig-3's, or La-5FN's and just a couple of mentions that Typhoon seemed to be too good for set 5.

[CountZero]

Just look at plansets, mig3 should be used from start, but its moved so it dosent face E7s or F2s.

Typhoon was in set 5 where it logicly should be as 1943 airplane, but was imidiatly moved away after axis say its to good of airplane for poor axis fighters, and that 190 is hard airplane to fly lol

and La5FN onother 1943 airplane that should be facing A5s is moved to face A8s and G14s.

Balance set for axis.

But 262 that give player bigger advantages, is not removed. Or allieds were not given same advantage like it gives to axis in one set for no reasons, and you dont know whats the problem with saying we make set more balanced, but you have this obvious axis bias ? 

[Robli]

1 hour ago, CountZero said:

you have this obvious axis bias

 

Mate, try to read your own posts. Could you maybe point out, where I have this obvious axis bias? You just like to make up claims like that for fun? You complain about "axis logic" about Mig-3 or La-5FN being too good, yet I have not seen anybody else besides you even mentioning these planes here. You are the one complaining about that planeset, so no need to put the blame on axis while you are at it. 

 

1 hour ago, CountZero said:

Just look at plansets, mig3 should be used from start, but its moved so it dosent face E7s or F2s.

 

Man, I just looked at the planesets like you suggested, to see what your big fuss is about. Even more confused about your "Mig-3 does not face E7s or F2s" comment now.

 

On first planeset Allies get I-16, P-40, LaGG-3 and Hurricane. Axis get E7s and Mc202s. 

On second planeset Allies get in addition to previous Mig-3 AND Yak-1 (the entire setup of BoM+BoS fighters + Hurricane) while Axis gets F2 (just BoM fighters). So Mig-3 is facing E7s and F2s, contrary to your claim.

Planeset 3 gives Allies BoK planes, while Axis get BoS planes minus A3.

 

Just wow, man. No words.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Robli

[ATAG_SKUD]

Today I was doing my usual thing flying my Ju 88 at least two grids away from any potential action on the way to the target.  I got whacked. OK so somebody might have gotten lucky and spotted me out two grids from one of our depots. So on my next flight I made a new route flying all the way to the corner of the map - absolutely as far as I could to avoid any intercept. At a distance of no less than 8 grids from any potential action I got intercepted again at 5km.

Is this that Tacview exploit or are AWACS  now part of the plane set?

skud

[BH_Adabadoo_VR]

Password reset page for 

http://stats.virtualpilots.fi:8000/en/profile/login/

 

I can't get my password to work and can't find reset page??

[CountZero]

19 hours ago, Robli said:

 

Mate, try to read your own posts. Could you maybe point out, where I have this obvious axis bias? You just like to make up claims like that for fun? You complain about "axis logic" about Mig-3 or La-5FN being too good, yet I have not seen anybody else besides you even mentioning these planes here. You are the one complaining about that planeset, so no need to put the blame on axis while you are at it. 

 

 

Man, I just looked at the planesets like you suggested, to see what your big fuss is about. Even more confused about your "Mig-3 does not face E7s or F2s" comment now.

 

On first planeset Allies get I-16, P-40, LaGG-3 and Hurricane. Axis get E7s and Mc202s. 

On second planeset Allies get in addition to previous Mig-3 AND Yak-1 (the entire setup of BoM+BoS fighters + Hurricane) while Axis gets F2 (just BoM fighters). So Mig-3 is facing E7s and F2s, contrary to your claim.

Planeset 3 gives Allies BoK planes, while Axis get BoS planes minus A3.

 

Just wow, man. No words.

Mig 3 was not in set 2 before, dont know when they returned it, but good to see that is done, dont know why its not in set 1 also.

Still stays that Typhoon was removed and La5FN also, even thought they dont give as big advantage if any like 262 give to axis.

Whos caling you axis biased, planset is cearly made to favor axis with moving allied airplanes to balanced sets out for axis, but having 8th set having 262 that cant be balanced out.

You can easy balanced that out by adding one set that have top allied airplane in same numbers like 262 is in set 8, Tempest +11 in set 5 for example. If small numbers of 262 in set 8 is not problem acoridng to axis players, how is then small numbers of Tempest +11 problem in set 5 to make planset totaly balanced, if whole point of war is to give each side balanced planset. So you then have 6 balanced sets and 1 favoring axis and 1 allieds, insted how its now. 

Edited October 9, 2021 by CountZero

[CIA_Luth]

19 hours ago, ATAG_SKUD said:

Today I was doing my usual thing flying my Ju 88 at least two grids away from any potential action on the way to the target.  I got whacked. OK so somebody might have gotten lucky and spotted me out two grids from one of our depots. So on my next flight I made a new route flying all the way to the corner of the map - absolutely as far as I could to avoid any intercept. At a distance of no less than 8 grids from any potential action I got intercepted again at 5km.

Is this that Tacview exploit or are AWACS  now part of the plane set?

skud

you were very unlucky.  you were spotted by eagle eye elanski not long after your takeoff.  we tracked you for a very long time, having guessed your intentions.  we were beginning to think we would never catch up to you.  no exploit or AWACS.   just happened to be looking in the right place, at the right time.  

[ATAG_SKUD]

Thanks Luth - you've restored my confidence. How are you and 'ski? Its been a long time since we flew together. By the way-great shot, PK'd me with first 2 rounds

skud

Edited October 10, 2021 by ATAG_SKUD

[ATAG_SKUD]

3 hours ago, CIA_Luth said:

you were very unlucky.  you were spotted by eagle eye elanski not long after your takeoff.  we tracked you for a very long time, having guessed your intentions.  we were beginning to think we would never catch up to you.  no exploit or AWACS.   just happened to be looking in the right place, at the right time.  

Did you guys just whack me again? I'm going to have to change my routine.

[CIA_Luth]

we are doing well, skud.  glad youre still flying.  

 

we usually try to attack head on against bombers.  we dont like their sniper gunners.  lol

 

wasnt us the second time.

[MasterBaiter]

The new planesets seems good so far and it doesn't take forever to go through them.

 

Maybe the Mig-3 could go to set 1 and the Fw-190-D9 to set 6 tho.

[ATAG_SKUD]

On 10/10/2021 at 9:49 AM, CIA_Luth said:

wasnt us the second time.

So I got incredibly unlucky 3 times in a row?

 

Hi @LLv34_Temuri

Is TACVIEW enabled?

 

skud

Edited October 13, 2021 by ATAG_SKUD

[LLv34_Temuri]

4 hours ago, ATAG_SKUD said:

Is TACVIEW enabled?

No.  Not until...