A little heads up

[Lusekofte]

I like to tell you about a event going on most fridays  Friday Night Bomber Flights 

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/16460-friday-night-bomber-flights/page-43?do=findComment&comment=335293

 

Sometime there are no slots left but other there are many, last Friday we lacked YAK pilots and IL 2 pilots. 

Organized flying is the ultimate thing you can do in a simulator. It is the best of fun. You might think you are too inexperienced to join, well I can tell you that the only skill you need is to be able to take off and cooperate, your wing mates will help you with the rest, navigating you say? no problem. The best navigator will be the wing leader, you only need to follow. 

This event truly is the best in BOS world ever , join up and fill the slots, you will not regret it. 

I just thought I mention that in bomber nights the fighters are just as important

[ACG_pezman]

Haha, last week in SNBF we only had three allies vs many more axis ☹

 

I feel your pain and wish I could help, but I don't get off until 10-11PMish GMT.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Thanks for the moral support though.

 

Fighter pilots, there are countless Yak-1 places available (all LaGG-3s and I-16s are taken). Il-2 pilots have seats left too. The Luftwaffe side is nearly full so we can promise you loads of targets and action

[ACG_pezman]

If anyone is out there complaining about a lack of teamwork in MP and how it ain't fun, it's all about getting kills, etc... (I'm talking about a lot of you SP guys), then you better sign up because this is what you want.

[II./JG77_Manu*]

This event truly is the best in BOS world ever

 

it truly is.

I find it remarkable, a lot of people moaning about multiplayer (mostly the so called "SP guys"), bringing up reasons like:

- bad behavior by certain pilots

- unhistoric play style

- dogfight only focus

- low survivability and no protection in ground attackers/bombers

-->which are all true for the open dogfight servers -

.....

and yet i have never seen a single one of them in the FNBF. Where all of those points don't apply.

But now enough with the advertising - in the end we will have to fight for our slots 

Edited February 24, 2016 by II./JG77_Manu*

[Guest deleted@50488]

I really have to give that a try, and start using TeamSpeak too...

 

I have never played in team.

 

At least in IL-2 I can see the other aircraft in a very realistic fashion at distance, and try to make formation flight...

 

Thx for the thumbs up and suggestion!

[Lusekofte]

I made this topic because I had a feeling not being good enough when I first started doing virtual war scenarios. I felt it was a huge step and was afraid of making a fool of myself.

And I wanted to tell people that it is really not like that at all. Anyone would be most welcomed

I just wanted to explain that the ones making this happen, and those being there are the most helpful people you ever find. I flown mostly with the Java folks with IL 2. Flown wing with Petrela and POD both excellent navigators, and helpful for further evolvement in my flying skills. I have been doing this since 2002 and I am always happy when people can teach me  something 

Haha, last week in SNBF we only had three allies vs many more axis ☹

I feel your pain and wish I could help, but I don't get off until 10-11PMish GMT.

 

I would love to attend, but - 5 GMT is difficult for me. It goes directly into my already reduced family time, since I am away 2 weeks a month for work. That said I am sure of a Sunday night Europe time would do well also, I think all of us flying gladly do this twice or 3 times a week

I really have to give that a try, and start using TeamSpeak too...

 

I have never played in team.

 

At least in IL-2 I can see the other aircraft in a very realistic fashion at distance, and try to make formation flight...

 

Thx for the thumbs up and suggestion!

If you are interested in trying you can start this friday as a gunner of a plane of your choice and if you feel up for it fly the next mission as a pilot. All you got to do is install TS and sign on. You will not regret it. In fact you will be annoyed you did not do it earlier. I myself fly this sim because of this event. It truly shows what BOS are capable of

 

 

 

 

Mission Time: 07:18-10:00

Conditions: Clear. Light wind from the Northeast.

 

Situation:

Pe-2s strike Axis Factory Targets as VVS ground attack aircraft continue forward base attacks. KG27 stages a dawn attack while Stukas hammer 64th Army logistics. Autumn is here as the 14th Pzd advance on Stalingrad continues.   

Mission #30 "Orion" AAR

 

***Please note Time Change to 20:00 UTC.  

**Patrol areas and Targeting to be relayed via PM to each side.

*UK_1 Server Settings for Friday Night Bomber Flights will be Full CEM, No Icon, No Navigational aides.

*TS will be the Official BoS server (8.3.5.133:9407) password bos2014; in one of the MP Channels.

 

Planeset:

Axis

 

 He-111 (9)

 

 1) [DBS]T}{OR

 2) [DBS]El_Marta

 3) [DBS]ThePrody

 4) [DBS]

 5) II./JG1_Baron

 6) II./JG1_Pfiel

 7) II./JG1_Thomas

 8) Loch

 9)

 

 Ju-87 (5)

 

 1) [DBS]Tx_Tip

 2) [DBS]

 3) 

 4) 

 5) 

 

 BF-109G (8)

 

 1) II./JG1_Deschain  

 2) II./JG1_Rumcjas

 3) 6./JG5_Thijs

 4) JG5_Schuck 

 5) 9./JG52Gruber 

 6) 9./JG52Meyer 

 7) 9./JG52Steiner

 8) 9./JG52Savage 

 

 BF-110E (2)

 

 1) Oggi

 2) Jizzo

 

 109F-4 (2)

 

 1) I./JG3_Vade 

 2) Dr_Zeebra

 

 109E7 (2)

 

 1) Stab/JG26_5tuka 

 2) [TWB]Etherlight 

 

VVS

 

 IL2-42 (7)

 

 1) 1.JaVA_Jumper

 2) 1.JaVA_Pod

 3) peterla

 4) 12.OIAE_Stick-95 

 5)

 6)

 7)

 

 Pe-2 s.87 (5)

 

 1) Nocke 

 2) Partaille

 3) 13Nrv

 4) Trefil

 5) CSAF_Shephard 

 

 Lagg-3 (4)

 

 1) Lucas_From_Hell 

 2) 71st_AH_Jordan 

 3) 12.OIAE_Roozter 

 4) 12.OIAE_Snake9

 

 Yak-1 (8)

 

 1) 307_Banzai 

 2) 307_Ludojad

 3) 307_Nebuluz

 4)

 5) 

 6)

 7)

 8)

 

I-16 (4)

 

 1) 1.JaVA_Biggles

 2) 1.JaVA_RoodeDuivel

 3) 1.JaVA_KEBEN

 4) II./JG77_Manu*

 

*II./JG77_tuesday Standby

Edited February 24, 2016 by EG14_LuseKofte

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Well even if you have a slot and fail miserably you can still jump in as a gunner or tank driver so I personally see no reason not to go ahead and grab a machine in the first place.

 

It's completely different from what we're used to from the usual online servers and the singleplayer campaign. People have limited lives so they bail out instead of fighting to death, bombers fly in large formations rather than solo and suicidal and fighters have clear tasks rather than justflying headless and killing everyone they run into.

 

As far as the skill requirements go I also had my concerns (given I only participated once in the Storm of War campaign in CloD before, which was pretty hardcore) but it's not about being an fighter ace or replay history but just having fun. If you feel confident enough to take off and eventually land without killing the pilot go ahead and give it a try.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Stab/JG26_5tuka

[ACG_pezman]

I remember the first FNBF I participated in. I was in a flight of 4x G2's tasked to rendezvous with a group of 6x He-111 and close escort them to target while another flight of 4x G2's cleared out in front of the bombers path and preformed a fighter sweep over the target area. We were to fly in at 6.5k with the bombers to the objective. But once the second flight of G2's got to the target area they called contrails, around 8x LaGG's, flying above 7km. So we started to climb to get above them, then we found out they were above 8km (don't know how LaGG's got up there but they did). Anyway when the engagement started at 8+k, the LaGG's dove into our bomber formation and started ripping them apart. Contrails everywhere, He-111's spurting thick ribbons of black smoke as they spiraled to earth. Confusion was rampant, everywhere you looked something needed attention. A wingman in trouble, a 111 trying to evade enemy fire, tracers everywhere.

 

Our 111's were decimated unfortunately, and we lost a couple of G2's in our flight. It was amazing. No words can describe that feeling of seeing formations collide at high altitude and fight and tumble to the earth. All the pillars of smoke that rose from the impact areas of downed aircraft inside of Stalingrad. This is when my addiction to IL2: BOS became hardcore.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

-snip-

 

I find it remarkable, a lot of people moaning about multiplayer

 

-snip-

 

 

and yet i have never seen a single one of them in the FNBF.

 

-snip-

 

 

I find it remarkable that it's difficult for you to fathom the fact that the flight time doesn't work for many people and that many people also have jobs and families.

[BraveSirRobin]

I find it remarkable that it's difficult for you to fathom the fact that the flight time doesn't work for many people and that many people also have jobs and families.

 

He's not talking about those people.  He's talking about these people:

 

 

bringing up reasons like: - bad behavior by certain pilots - unhistoric play style - dogfight only focus - low survivability and no protection in ground attackers/bombers

[Brano]

I usually fly back from business trip somewhere abroad with last Friday flight,which is midnight flight. If that's not the case,I'm in pub doing real socializing :D I remember from old Sturm that our czecho-slovak comunity agreed on Wednesdays and Sundays to do such events.It was well working compromise for single,married,sobers and drunkards alike

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

He's not talking about those people.  He's talking about these people:

 

You can't specify and generalize all at once.

 

Also, if you could do me a favor and remind me where it says in his post "bringing up reasons like (but limited to):"

Edited February 24, 2016 by Space_Ghost

[BraveSirRobin]

You can't specify and generalize all at once.

 

He isn't.  He provided a specific list.  The people who say that they don't play MP for various listed reasons.  'You picked a reason not on that list.  I'm pretty sure his post was not directed at people whose schedule does not allow them to show.  It was directed at people whose schedule does allow them to show up, but don't show up anyways.  

Edited February 24, 2016 by BraveSirRobin

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

-snip-

 

It was directed at people whose schedule does allow them to show up, but don't show up anyways.  

 

I'm failing to find that in Manu's original post - can you provide a direct quote?

 

-snip-

 

i have never seen a single one of them in the FNBF. Where all of those points don't apply.

 

-snip-

 

Still sounds like a personal problem to me.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Space_Ghost

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Semantics aside, anyone up for filling up the Yak flight?

[BraveSirRobin]

I'm failing to find that in Manu's original post - can you provide a direct quote?

 

Read the post.  He lists the reasons.  "I don't have time" is NOT on the list of reasons.

 

 

it truly is.

I find it remarkable, a lot of people moaning about multiplayer (mostly the so called "SP guys"), bringing up reasons like:

- bad behavior by certain pilots

- unhistoric play style

- dogfight only focus

- low survivability and no protection in ground attackers/bombers

-->which are all true for the open dogfight servers -

.....

and yet i have never seen a single one of them in the FNBF. Where all of those points don't apply.

But now enough with the advertising - in the end we will have to fight for our slots 

[coconut]

Hey you two @@Space_Ghost, @@BraveSirRobin, you are off-topic   

I believe that's the problem OP wants to solve:

 

 

 

Sometime there are no slots left but other there are many, last Friday we lacked YAK pilots and IL 2 pilots. 

[Jade_Monkey]

The SNBF was very axis heavy, with only 3 brave pilots flying VVS.

 

I dont mind VVS but i really wanted to fly the 111 this time.

[ACG_pezman]

The SNBF was very axis heavy, with only 3 brave pilots flying VVS.

 

I dont mind VVS but i really wanted to fly the 111 this time.

Yeah it was lonely but we recon'd the hell out of our recon objectives though. Then we got wasted by AAA flying P-40s on an armed recon. Good time still because those three Russians were working together, lol.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Read the post.  He lists the reasons.  "I don't have time" is NOT on the list of reasons.

 

I don't see where he mentions that the list was specifically limited to the items he chose to write at that time.

 

I do see below where he pretentiously states that he's never seen X, Y or Z player where his list doesn't apply.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Hey you two @@Space_Ghost, @@BraveSirRobin, you are off-topic 

 

 

@@coconut There are already FNBF threads - does that mean this constitutes spam?

Edited February 24, 2016 by Space_Ghost

[BraveSirRobin]

I don't see where he mentions that the list was specifically limited to the items he chose to write at that time.

 

Using that sort of logic you could find a way to be offended by pretty much anything.  Have fun with that!

[SYN_Haashashin]

Emm please stay on topic and stop with the back and forth and the personal remarks. I you don't like what the post says then say your word about it but not about whoever write a certain post which get things personal. It's seems some can't or don't want to do just that.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Using that sort of logic you could find a way to be offended by pretty much anything.  Have fun with that!

 

You're the one who clearly took offense to something - you initiated this whole spiel, let us not forget that fact. Have fun with that!

[Lusekofte]

Space Ghost, really .  I did not seek people that are at work, neither did anyone else. I myself are not available half the month every month every year. You start a fight with no reason what so ever. This topic is a attempt to explain what is going on, if you find it offensive by its very existence, plz tell me why and I delete it. You are currently trolling this topic, and for no obvious reason.

If I only knew what trigger your aggression , there is no way to understand what you getting at

Edited February 24, 2016 by EG14_LuseKofte

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Space Ghost, really .  I did not seek people that are at work, neither did anyone else. I myself are not available half the month every month every year. You start a fight with no reason what so ever. This topic is a attempt to explain what is going on, if you find it offensive by its very existence, plz tell me why and I delete it. You are currently trolling this topic, and for no obvious reason.

If I only knew what trigger your aggression , there is no way to understand what you getting at

 

I have no clue what you're on about.

 

I never responded to anything you said before this post and I never stated or implied that anything in this thread was offensive or taken offensively. BSR responded to my response to Manu (Celestiale) and I reciprocated a response to BSR's response.

 

If you think you're going to determine the nature or context of my post by reading BSR's you're wrong - BSR twists the nature and context of many posts in the semantic confrontations he chooses to have with other users.

 

As I stated pretty clearly and simply above - BSR initiated the "debate," "diatribe," "discussion," etc. Yes, I chose to respond. The difference between the two is pretty substantial. 

Edited February 25, 2016 by Space_Ghost

[Lusekofte]

 LOL

 

I read that 5 times........

 

 

 

I admire your vocabulary  

[Bearcat]

Enough guys...

[II./JG77_Manu*]

Space_Ghost, just to be clear i was talking about the people bringing up the arguments against multiplayer i already mentioned. I was using that as an advertisement for the FNBF, because all those downsides "normal" multiplayer inherits, don't apply for the FNBF.

The goal of my argument chain was to say "There is no reason what so ever, to not try the FNBF (or other multiplayer campaigns), even if you are a SP guy"

What i clearly was not talking about are people who don't have the time for campaigns like that....period

[Mac_Messer]

Semantics aside, anyone up for filling up the Yak flight?

I`ll probably join some sessions once I finish sp VVS campaign. Gotta get to know Soviet crates before I dive in.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Glad to hear that Mac_Messer, there's plenty of aircraft available whenever you're done

[Trinkof]

Hell would love to come in a yak... I flew twice some time ago in FNBF, and it was awesome...

 

Unfortunately Friday is not an option for siming for me at the moment, I already struggle to convince my wife that a party between friends without their wife, for drinking, is a normal thing a Friday night.... If I do not do it, just to sit and play in front of her, I really fear her reaction, and for my health

 

Joke apart, in the future I hope I will be able to join in!

 

And like Manu said, I am one of those not liking the spirit of open server, but not joining FNBF no offense taken by the way!

 

'S! See you soon in the skies!

Edited February 25, 2016 by LAL_Trinkof

[BlitzPig_EL]

I'm thinking about it, but I'm so rusty that I would be of no use to anyone but to provide target practice for Jerry.

[Jade_Monkey]

I'm thinking about it, but I'm so rusty that I would be of no use to anyone but to provide target practice for Jerry.

Trust me, you dont need to be good. A lot of us love flying but are not that good when it comes to dogfighting.

 

I can't fly in formation at all, and it was still fun.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

EL, skills are not a requirement - my last one was my 2nd week in BoS and I had a blast, even if a 110 and 109 finished me off after a botched attack.

 

There are still one or two slots open for this week so if you're interested you're more than welcome to join

 

Hope to see you flying soon as well, Trinkof!

[BlitzPig_EL]

Oh dear, 20:00 hours GMT?

 

I'm in the Eastern Time Zone of the US, that would be 15:00 for me, I'll still be at work...

 

Oh well...

[JG13_opcode]

Aw damn, that's during the workday for me as well.

 

This game needs a new Forgotten Skies.

[Skoop]

I love the FNBF and am glad to see it grow to a SNBF, I just wish it wasn't noon PST for me....otherwise I'd fly every one of them.

[Raha]

2000 UTC thats 8am the next day here in NZ I think, (correct me if i'm wrong. I might be keen for a Yak 1 spot, will at least hook on to teamspeak for a listen. I'm not sure if my bandwidth will even be up to it. I'll have a read up and see how it all works.