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mmmmh cowling I'd say obviously, but not of a single engine.. perhaps something twin-engined? Although what looks like the fairing for a machine gun would say otherwise?

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that is exactly what i have been thinking, 2

 

the guy that owns it says its from a soviet plane, but i would also consider german..

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DD_bongodriver

if it's an exhaust port then it is oriented the wrong way, the bit that looks more like it has to do with exhaust is the formed round section on the side with the large opening.

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Yes unless that is the rear section of the nacelle, as a "gun port" fairing it would seem that the gun would be firing down, or up depending on the orientation of the cowling. anyone got some nice pics of a PE-2 cowling?

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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Looks like a thorough googling is in order.

 

Anyone thing of any fighter, any nation, inline piston with a single gun in the cowling?

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i think this might be right lower or left upper nose section, which in either case would put the the guns at the sides of the nose/foresection?

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let's go by exclusion:

 

1) it's definitely the cowling off an inline engine

2) it's the very front section, as there is the typical strengthening plate at the front and the hatch for what is probably the access to a coolant or other tank.

3) it's a top cowling: no streaks and no need for a bottom hatch at the end? 

4) it is asymmetrical

5) the finish is probably genuine and is uniform.

6) there are distinctive features like a bulge and an exhaust support ring, suggesting a long tubular exhaust on one side.

 

Have I missed anything?

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There are fasteners to attach a panel to, it but few latches or fasteners for it to  be attached to something else...

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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wonder why the big hole in one side looks like it was opened with a can opener.

 

lol my exact same thought, which further confirms it's probably Russian ;)   :biggrin:

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Actually a good way to narrow it down is thinking of what engine it might be, it's inline but has a single wide exhaust so it's got to be a straight inline rather than a vee, I don't know Russian engines so well, any fit that description?

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I was thinking the same, nose of a twin engine fighter/bomber (Pe-2, Tu-2, A-20 etc) did some prelim photo search and so far no clear match.. the round bracket is suspicious for exhaust or some sort of air intake..

 

thx for all the brain storming!

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unless a bigass under the nose cannon bracket??, it is all little bit 2 clean for engine cowling...

 

 

it doesn't look like it has had an engine under it for many years.

Some Pe had an opening in the bottom of the nose for glazing.

 

 

But did they have exhaust mounts?

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Sorry but I don't see any exhaust mounts, just an opening.

 

The round shape at the back of the large opening, looks like an exhaust guide/mount to me.

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No, look at the second picture, the big square butchered out hole in the structure, can you not see the perfectly round tubular part which is next to the hub end of the undercarriage leg on the ground?

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Patience. Use the force. Think...

 

 

 

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Be mindful of your thoughts Anakin. They'll betray you.

 

 

What part are you talking about ? now all I can think about is the pic's you posted ! (hope my GF does not see this !)

 

BW, my kid has a black Challanger, touch it and youre dead...

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If I had to guess I'd say a LaGG. It has a gun port on one side. Many LaGG's had this including Yak's.

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Have you already seen a WW2 Russian engine cover from up close? Or better, have a picture? Based on the few clues I've found, I don't think it is what they did back then, but then not all their covers covered Klimovs...

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