Tactical Air War

[SDV_Fin*19_]

MeoW.Scharfi, вefore invent such garbage, Turn on the brain and open the eyes of my son

 

 

 TPAKTOPUCT please put your track files that we can analyze it.

Ok, sent a personal check please

Edited October 9, 2016 by =SRS=Fin*19

[jsmith]

 

Regarding TPAKTOPUCT pilot (=SRS= Finn*19): a few day ago his AK per hour was lower than e.g. FF*BELKA - so he is not the only one who frequently shot down enemy planes. As we can all see his video is little different from the previous one. I don't know him but maybe people who fought against him in other tournaments (event back in old Il-2 '46) may tell if he is a good pilot or not.

You probably don't know me, but i can tell you that =SRS= Finn*19 is a skilled player, and many airkills is not something out of the ordinary for him.

There's a video on the youtube already, you can see for yourself.

[=M=PiloT]

Regarding TPAKTOPUCT pilot (=SRS= Finn*19): a few day ago his AK per hour was lower than e.g. FF*BELKA - so he is not the only one who frequently shot down enemy planes. As we can all see his video is little different from the previous one. I don't know him but maybe people who fought against him in other tournaments (event back in old Il-2 '46) may tell if he is a good pilot or not.

I don't know if he uses cheats and it's not clear now as I thought before. TPAKTOPUCT please put your track files that we can analyze it.

Кто может перевидите пожалуйста:

Привет)) Летаю с года релиза  еще первого ил2 ,практически не бросал летать, это к тому что уже видел "тут" события. В последнем турнире не смотря на то что выиграл очень много боев и чувствовал не плохую форму    проиграл  этому " читеру"   , причем именно проиграл, а не имел не удачу. Так же посмотрел ролик о случившемся  . Мой вывод:

Я обвиняю =SRS=Fin*19 в неоправданной жестокости. А  TWD напоминаю, что земля притягивает, а не отталкивает и первый эпизод с атакой Лагга с низу вверх против Me109 тому подтверждение. Простите за сарказм, но вы не в праве после такого приема его обвинять. Например я иногда веду себя таким образом, но уж точно не ради победы, а для учебы, а быть недовольным смертью после таких маневров не серьезно.

Me 109 имеет полное безоговорочное преимущество особенно в растянутом во времени бою и он вас просто и очень не торопясь расстреливает вот и все.

И еще, самый первый признак читера - это неугомонное тщеславие на словах и на деле. Ненасытная охота за учетом сбитых ( любым способом) . За =SRS=Fin*19 этого не замечал. Если спросить меня это очень не удачное обвинение.

[[TWB]Pand]

If your hours are operation are the same as last night, then I disagree with your claim, as it is not representative of the player base.

 

The Allies team greatly outnumbered the Axis the time I was on last night - 26 Allies to 8 Axis when I jumped into the server last night.  At that point we were still in possession of Gromo, Plesovskiy, and Novo.  I see that has changed and all three airfields have switched.

 

Persistent campaigns with a global playerbase do make a challenge, when half the populace sleeps the other half moves the map. 

 

Any time I have logged on I have seen pretty strong teamwork and efforts for coordination amongst Axis fighters and bombers attacking and defending the objectives.  I like to belittle the enemy, too

 

S!

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a trend of pilots for both coalitions over the last 7 days on the TAW server.  Last night had far more Russian pilots than previous nights; however, when considering the full 24/7 operation, Axis still maintain the higher average number of pilots online at 15.38 pilots vs 14.97 Russian.  

[[TWB]Pand]

 

 

TPAKTOPUCT please put your track files that we can analyze it.

 

Ok, sent a personal check please

 

 Will you please share your track of the entire flight with everyone?

[5.AA_WiSiPunK]

5.AA_xXjaninatorXx, on 07 Oct 2016 - 23:28, said: Guys i need help when i try to join the server get kicked every time instant without a message changed my name last time and than back to my old name i got still the same name but i cant join

You have been banned for having many accounts.

 

Is it possible, to unban him please @Kathon, i am sorry for making any trouble, i know u have enough work without me.

He made a mistake on first registration/login. to solve this i told him to try a second account. Sorry, this was my stupid mistake.

But i promise, it happened not in sight of getting more aircrafts.

Edited October 9, 2016 by 5.AA_WiSiPunK

[SDV_Fin*19_]

 

 

Pand' timestamp='1476032427' post='398710']  Will you please share your track of the entire flight with everyone?

Let versed administrator. You do not believe anything vseravno, only know how to invent charges. Even if we send only your commander if you have, who is he? 

[=LG/F=Kathon]

Is it possible, to unban him please @Kathon, i am sorry for making any trouble, i know u have enough work without me.

He made a mistake on first registration/login. to solve this i told him to try a second account. Sorry, this was my stupid mistake.

But i promise, it happened not in sight of getting more aircrafts.

He has to log in as Janinator and then change his name (not to 5.AA_janinator nor 5.AA_xXjaninatorXx)  in Pilot Profile on the TAW web site. And then change his name on il2sturmovik.com. Names must be the same.

 

 

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Trucks from =SRS=Fin*19

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRS1hBMk41Rm9ZMkE

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRdTlyY1BFMWdJbFE

 

Please don't use vote ban on the server unless you see someone deliberately killing friendly planes or ground units. Remember to always lock your gunners!

[5.AA_WiSiPunK]

He has to log in as Janinator and then change his name (not to 5.AA_janinator nor 5.AA_xXjaninatorXx)  in Pilot Profile on the TAW web site. And then change his name on il2sturmovik.com. Names must be the same.

 

 

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Trucks from =SRS=Fin*19

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRS1hBMk41Rm9ZMkE

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRdTlyY1BFMWdJbFE

 

Please don't use vote ban on the server unless you see someone deliberately killing friendly planes or ground units. Remember to always lock your gunners!

thank you Kathon, for the help and the fast response!

[=LG/F=Kathon]

DServer stopped responding (no logs files)  during mission #95. Have to restart it.

[Tuesday]

Here is a trend of pilots for both coalitions over the last 7 days on the TAW server.  Last night had far more Russian pilots than previous nights; however, when considering the full 24/7 operation, Axis still maintain the higher average number of pilots online at 15.38 pilots vs 14.97 Russian.  

Never saw that before, still new to most of this - thanks for sharing.  Too bad there are folks who play that way, I have not seen it myself while in the server, thankfully.

 

S!

[[TWB]Pand]

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Trucks from =SRS=Fin*19

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRS1hBMk41Rm9ZMkE

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8WufjW-gHWRdTlyY1BFMWdJbFE

 

Please don't use vote ban on the server unless you see someone deliberately killing friendly planes or ground units. Remember to always lock your gunners!

 

TWB executed the vote ban based off the following criteria:

• Historical Cheaters.  I believe it was Han that even said, it's up to the community to police the cheaters and vote/kick/ban them, which is why the devs bumped the vote ban from 24 hours to 1 week and made the vote 50%+1.  Everyone knows that cheaters were everywhere in this game 6-12 months ago, icon hacks, lead indicators, unlimited ammo, etc, until the Devs finally took action to make it harder to perform.  
• Name changes make people suspicious.  Own your name, and your history!
• TPAKTOPUCT is a new name that no one has seen in this game before and then is all of a sudden the top ace.
• Track detail provided by Fenderbird clearly shows questionable activity showing thrust vectoring turns and collisions without damage.  
• No one wants to play on a server with cheaters.  Which is why more than half of the server voted to ban him--- not just TWB. 
• No one ever seems to see him coming, and when they do he has amazing aim, rarely misses, and has enough ammo to down multiple fighters and multiple IL2s with ease.

While TPAKTOPUCT's tracks don't show that assists like simplified physics, markers, or a lead computing gunsight aren't being used, there isn't evidence included that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are.  Only live streaming on twitch or similar may accomplish this.   Most of what is seen comparing the two tracks from Fenderbird and TPACKTOPUCT is that network latency and dsync are a huge issue in what other players see when flying against global opponents.

 

TWB apologizes to TPAKTOPUCT/=SRS=Fin19 for our part in the vote ban.  Salute!

[[TWB]Pand]

Never saw that before, still new to most of this - thanks for sharing.  Too bad there are folks who play that way, I have not seen it myself while in the server, thankfully.

 

S!

 

You're welcome!   

 

I keep track of all the more popular servers here:  http://www.thewetbandits.org/smf/index.php?topic=285.0.

Data points pulled every 5 minutes, charts update Every 15 minutes (requires manual browser refresh)

All times are USA Eastern Time (UTC-05:00).

 

We try to help where we can... whether it's cash donations for multiplayer servers to help keep them running, or by providing information and help to the community.  Salute!

[[TWB]Pand]

Quick question... Allies just won another map making it 0 German to 3 Russian.

 

I thought I read this season will be extended to 5 maps.

 

Is the season/campaign set to run only 5 Total missions, or the first coalition to win 5 maps? Does it matter if they are in a row or not?

[AbortedMan]

TWB executed the vote ban based off the following criteria:

• Historical Cheaters. I believe it was Han that even said, it's up to the community to police the cheaters and vote/kick/ban them, which is why the devs bumped the vote ban from 24 hours to 1 week and made the vote 50%+1. Everyone knows that cheaters were everywhere in this game 6-12 months ago, icon hacks, lead indicators, unlimited ammo, etc, until the Devs finally took action to make it harder to perform.
• Name changes make people suspicious. Own your name, and your history!
• TPAKTOPUCT is a new name that no one has seen in this game before and then is all of a sudden the top ace.
• Track detail provided by Fenderbird clearly shows questionable activity showing thrust vectoring turns and collisions without damage.
• No one wants to play on a server with cheaters. Which is why more than half of the server voted to ban him--- not just TWB.
• No one ever seems to see him coming, and when they do he has amazing aim, rarely misses, and has enough ammo to down multiple fighters and multiple IL2s with ease.

While TPAKTOPUCT's tracks don't show that assists like simplified physics, markers, or a lead computing gunsight aren't being used, there isn't evidence included that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are. Only live streaming on twitch or similar may accomplish this. Most of what is seen comparing the two tracks from Fenderbird and TPACKTOPUCT is that network latency and dsync are a huge issue in what other players see when flying against global opponents.

 

TWB apologizes to TPAKTOPUCT/=SRS=Fin19 for our part in the vote ban. Salute!

I'd like to mention his current kill streak of 44 and call out anyone in the current campaign with similar play time that's even SEEN 44 enemy aircraft total to come forward.

 

These types of numbers in a game like this always add up to someone using icons.

[[TWB]Pand]

 

 

... and coming up with it just a few posts after TWB's apology really questions the sincerity of said apology.

 

To be clear, we are apologizing for our part in the voteban that was executed on the server based off the information that was available at the time.   Please re-read my post if you if have any questions, thanks!

[JG4_dingsda]

I'd like to mention his current kill streak of 44

 

These types of numbers in a game like this always add up to someone using icons.

I have seen streaks higher than this (in a game like this) and I am pretty sure, there were no icons involved. This is a weak argument...

 

 

TWB apologizes to TPAKTOPUCT/=SRS=Fin19 for our part in the vote ban.

... and coming up with it just a few posts after TWB's apology really questions the sincerity of said apology.

 

*Edit: I failed while editing, that's why I deleted my previous post. I probably would have kept it that way, had Pand not answered to it. So here it is again.

Edited October 9, 2016 by JG4_dingsda

[Haza]

 

I have seen streaks higher than this (in a game like this) and I am pretty sure, there were no icons involved. This is a weak argument...

 

 

... and coming up with it just a few posts after TWB's apology really questions the sincerity of said apology.

 

*Edit: I failed while editing, that's why I deleted my previous post. I probably would have kept it that way, had Pand not answered to it. So here it is again.

 

 

JG4_dingsda,

 

Did you really expect anything else?

Edited October 10, 2016 by Haza

[AbortedMan]

Bug report:

 

Apparently if your game crashes on plane spawn it gets counted as a death...

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=17901&name=[TWB]AbortedMan

[SAG]

Bug report:

 

Apparently if your game crashes on plane spawn it gets counted as a death...

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=17901&name=[TWB]AbortedMan

 

 

 

I hust came here to say that the exact same thing happened to me today

 

Terrible bug. died, lost my combat sorties and lost my only La5 (i should have recieved my secon La5 after that sortie if the bug hadnt happened  )

 

here is the sortie

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=17968&name=19.GIAP//SAG

[=LG/F=Kathon]

I asked TPAKTOPUCT to record his flight by external device like camera that we would see his monitor and what he sees on it. I thing it would dispel doubts about his cheating.

 

 

Bug report:

 

Apparently if your game crashes on plane spawn it gets counted as a death...

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=17901&name=[TWB]AbortedMan

Will be fixed in the future. If you die at the same moment as spawn then such sortie will not be taken into account. 

[=AD=uumembwa]

 

 

And it is not nice to play voteban

I suggest TWB must be banned for voteban abuse. 

[=AD=uumembwa]

 

 

is the fact that YOU are NEVER checking ur 6.

Hunters hunt, victims check 6   

[=M=PiloT]

I suggest TWB must be banned for voteban abuse. 

Думаю хоть и запрет голосованием был не справедлив, но любые действия и попытки борьбы и просто подозрений в мошенничестве должны быть оправданны. Это однозначно. То что Finn не мошенник это одна история. Но искать мошенников надо всегда . Это тот случай когда придется терпеть случаи несправедливого обвинения ради поимки мошенника.

[AbortedMan]

Думаю хоть и запрет голосованием был не справедлив, но любые действия и попытки борьбы и просто подозрений в мошенничестве должны быть оправданны. Это однозначно. То что Finn не мошенник это одна история. Но искать мошенников надо всегда . Это тот случай когда придется терпеть случаи несправедливого обвинения ради поимки мошенника.

Translation:

I think, though the ban vote was not fair, but any actions and attempts to struggle and merely suspected fraud must be justified. This uniquely. The fact that Finn is not the fraudster is another story. But we must always look for cheaters. This is the case when you have to tolerate cases of unfair charges for catching a cheater.

[SDV_Fin*19_]

I asked TPAKTOPUCT to record his flight by external device like camera that we would see his monitor and what he sees on it. I thing it would dispel doubts about his cheating.

 

Look please! This mission yesterday, where it was shot down 12 enemy aircraft in one mission. Recorded in real time on the screen, all I see in myself. As you can see any icons I do not!

 

В будущем если есть сомнения в моей честности предлагаю обратиться сразу к разработчикам игры. Они писали что у них есть список читеров.

Я пришел сюда летать и отдыхать а не чтобы меня обвиняли в читерстве! Я сам администратор сервера БЕРЛОГА и всегда был против читеров! Зачем мне пользоваться читами?!

 

Вот турнирные таблицы с последних чемпионатов где я участвовал, ко мне претензий небыло.

Турнир Царь горы F4 2016 http://challonge.com/ru/King_of_The_Hill_2016_BF109F4

Турнир Алсиб 2014 http://challonge.com/ru/alsib2014

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Как участник турниров и чемпионатов для меня не проблема сбивать таких пилотов, которые ни на одном турнире Ил-2 не были замечены. 

 

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In the future, if there are doubts about the honesty of my offer to apply directly to the game developers. They wrote that they have a list of cheaters.

I came here to fly and rest and not to me accused of cheating! I myself BERLOGA server administrator and have always been against cheaters! Why do I use the cheat ?!

 

Here standings with last championships where I was, to me nebylo claims.

Tournament King_of_The_Hill_2016_BF109F4 http://challonge.com/ru/King_of_The_Hill_2016_BF109F4

Tournament Alsib 2014 http://challonge.com/ru/alsib2014

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As a participant in tournaments and championships is not a problem to shoot down these pilots to me that in any event the IL-2 were seen.

Edited October 10, 2016 by =SRS=Fin*19

[216th_Jordan]

Ok, now stop the witchhunt guys.

 

Great flying there. ~S~

[Angus]

Tonight or tomorrow, Red has won 

[[TWB]Pand]

On the front page of TAW, the top fighter and bomber squadrons are highlighted with the total number of kills, and includes a score to the right.  

 

What is the formula used for calculating score?  

[72AG_Krom]

On the front page of TAW, the top fighter and bomber squadrons are highlighted with the total number of kills, and includes a score to the right.  

 

What is the formula used for calculating score?  

 

For fighters [AK - deaths], for bombers [(GK - deaths)/10]

[216th_Jordan]

Seriously though: What the heck is team Axis doing??

[FTC_DerSheriff]

Seriously though: What the heck is team Axis doing??

Seems like that a good bunch of the TWBs are North American. They take Pe2s and Il2s and they clean up airfields. Seems like that in those hours there aren't many organised axis players there to defend.

 

In CET hours I would say that axis does okish. However they attack not enough the airfields.

[ESCOMM_FlyMaker]

Why i have -1 PE?

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot.php?name=ESCOMM_FlyMaker

When mission starts i have 2, i lost 2. Why -1?

[MeoW.Scharfi]

My experiences are that even if we are more than Reds on the Server, the local Power is still most time in the favor of red squadrons. They often fly close to each other. Most time i attack alone huge formations of enemies over objectives while some mates are busy with hartmanning. I don't blame them for that, i am not better at all. But always when we had a local superiority we won.

[CSW_GC3_Chroust]

Please..

why me kicked from server ? Yesterday connection is good but today, connect .. spawn in cockpit and 2 sec. and kick ..All available aircraft..

[SCG_happy_meal]

Seriously though: What the heck is team Axis doing??

What is the Reds doing so right,

 

*Good logistic, you bomb a airfield just to have it fully repaid the next mission.

*Good airfield defense (record so far is 1/5 of the redteam on 4/5k waiting for poor innocent he111 over a airfield).

*Local air superiority over ground targets when hitting them.

 

So the reds are doing a really good job.

[AbortedMan]

Looks legit for me.. i will take my accusation back, but the impressive thing on that video is how fluent ur game runs. 

Why the yak my game doesn't run so fluent       S!

 

anyway it's a joy to watch.

Bullsh** that's legit. Looks like clear usage of padlock view.

 

At 4:23 it looks to be enabled and locked on a distant aircraft (otherwise not visible/unknown without padlock), returned to default view, then reacquired through headtracking, in my opinion. This would explain an uncanny ability to find as many targets as he does.

 

https://youtu.be/_dCiVvBZw1I?t=260

[=FEW=N3cRoo]

My experiences are that even if we are more than Reds on the Server, the local Power is still most time in the favor of red squadrons. They often fly close to each other. Most time i attack alone huge formations of enemies over objectives while some mates are busy with hartmanning. I don't blame them for that, i am not better at all. But always when we had a local superiority we won.

in addition:

-going purely defensive fighters when slightly outnumbered, I've seen plenty of rounds where halfway in the germans had a few AKs no GKs when the VVS pilots have on avg 5GK each

-german BOS attacker/bombers are less suited for close and dirty actions and generally more fragile

-Pe2 tailguns

-Rather efficiencent Airfield attacks with bombers and dont get me started on these fighters getting into the range of small caliber guns... It seems many german pilots have the impression the 1ton bombs and the 1 ton bombcraters in the middle of the runway have mythical qualities... or they try Hartmann with bombs . Also there are dugouts to protect parked planes from explosions

 

-Bigger tendency to solo/duo

Edited October 10, 2016 by N3croo

[Willy__]

 

 

AbortedMan' timestamp='1476118390' post='398973'] Bullsh** that's legit. Looks like clear usage of padlock view.   At 4:23 it looks to be enabled and locked on a distant aircraft (otherwise not visible/unknown without padlock), returned to default view, then reacquired through headtracking, in my opinion. This would explain an uncanny ability to find as many targets as he does.

 

Looks pretty normal to me. He´s just messing with the snapviews. Stop the witchhunting. 

[=FEW=ayamoth89]

 

If you tell me how to do it I will try to implement it.

I'm very sorry but I don't know how to set a minimized map to navigate easily. I think that it's a game's engine problem because now you can have minimized map only with arcade mode

Anyway, do you think that could be possible to have some kind of ground battles (tanks vs tanks or artillery) like the SP's battles during campaign? Just to see some action and to try to ground support your own faction

Edited October 10, 2016 by =FEW=ayamoth89