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[Baller]

Thanks M8!

 

I'm just testing right now. I usually use buttons so that's great when I get it working. I had set it earlier to buttons, but it didn't appear to function.

 

[EDIT: So weird. I've set it to an axis on my joystick and I see the % go up but when I release It goes back to 0 so that's not helpful lol. I set it to buttons and I get no indication on the right of my screen of a % increase/decrease so I assume it doesn't work? Or is that a wrong assumption. I'm sitting on the ground so maybe test it in the air haha. I just figured if the trim was working you would see it on the right side of the screen.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Baller

[No.85_Camm]

Hi Baller

 

Welcome.

 

If you need a hand with anything, I (and my buddies) would be happy to help.

3 of us are in the UK and 1 is in the US.

Some or all of us are usually on line between 09.30 and 14.00 (UK time), daily.  We only fly Allied and only on our own server. 

If you are interested, please pm me and I will send you the teamspeak address and password.

 

Take care

Edited April 19, 2021 by No.85_Camm

[Baller]

Thanks No.85_Camm!

 

I'd love to, but I think geography might get in the way, booo. I'm UTC -8 in Vancouver.

 

However, on the bright side I did get the elevator Trim working, YESSSS! It seems it did not want to 'take' right away. Once I got out of the quick mission and reloaded all was working ok... I think. is there a % notification/indicator on the right side of the screen for Rudder trim like there is for elevator?

 

As you can see in the pic above I also have rudder trim set on the same toggle/hat, but when i use it for rudder I don't get the % indicator. or perhaps the Yak 9 doesn not have rudder trim?

 

Cheers!

[BlitzPig_EL]

Most of the Russian planes, and German single seaters do not have rudder trim.  The US and British aircraft do.

As you have discovered, there are no "clickpits" in this series.

 

Welcome aboard.

[Baller]

Thanks! Ya, not too fussed re: clickpits as my HOTAS should cover it. If I get up against a wall I can always use VA which I assume should work. It’s not like DCS where I’m punching lat/longs or setting ECS within the viper’s DED etc. 
 

I did need planes to test the trims and stabs and the Spit and the P-47 worked perfectly! So it’s working trim/stab wise like it should which is great.

 

I did have a question re; external cam. I realize it’s turned off for MP which makes sense, but for SP it is set by default to the mouse. I accidentally deleted that binding as I wanted to switch it to another POV hat I have. I think it was called “free camera up and down and free camera right and left” 

 

what is the default setting ?

 

“mouse x for horizontal and mouse y for vertical” I thought, but I put those two back in there and it didn’t work. (the POV hat thing didn’t work either).

 

now when I go into F2 external cam I can’t rotate/pan the view which is strange.

 

any thoughts?

 

cheers in advance for any tips!

 

Baller

 

 

 

 

 

[Hot_Rod]

Hi Baller,

 

Here’s a picture of my camera settings (they are all the default settings, I haven’t changed any of my camera settings).

 

I think the actions you’re looking for are “Rotate camera up/down” and “Rotate camera left/right” (the 4th and 5th actions from the top) - not the “Move free camera left/right” & “Move free camera up/down” actions you mentioned (I could be wrong though).

 

I hope this helps you out.

 

 

Rod

 

 

[Baller]

That's perfect Hot_Rod, thanks.

 

I thought that was correct setting for the default "Move free camera forward/backward, left/right and up/down". I had deleted it and tried it with one of my hats, but it didn't work. I then put the defaults back in pictured in your attachment (Mouse Right button + Mouse Y , X and Mousewheel), but strangely it also did not work. Unfortunately I couldn't figure out why putting the defaults back in did not work, so I just set everything back to default.  And although those same commands went back in to their appropriate slots after setting them to default, it DID work. It's very strange.

 

I think there's something obvious I'm missing, but now I have the defaults pictured above I can hopefully fiddle without breaking anything.

 

Cheers!

 

Baller

 

I

[mikek1357]

Hi all,

 

What module is best to buy for someone who is new to IL2?

 

Thanks 

[ShamrockOneFive]

That mostly depends on you. Each of the titles in the series are essentially the same in quality and nearly all have the same core features so it really matters what you want to do. Are you interested in single player or multiplayer? Which aircraft do you most want to fly? I'd start with those two questions.

[mikek1357]

1 minute ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

That mostly depends on you. Each of the titles in the series are essentially the same in quality and nearly all have the same core features so it really matters what you want to do. Are you interested in single player or multiplayer? Which aircraft do you most want to fly? I'd start with those two questions.

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 minutes ago, mikek1357 said:

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

Battle of Bodenplatte has a focus on 1944-1945 western front with US and British aircraft on the Allied side and German on the other. Battle of Normandy is in development right now and when complete will give you more aircraft in that set. You may also want to consider Battle of Kuban (which has the P-39 and A-20B) and the P-40 Collector Plane (also comes with Battle of Moscow Premium) if its a purely American aircraft set that you're looking for.

[itsbillyfrazier]

I think the premium version of Kuban is worth picking up.

 

IMO, it has the best map with lots of diversity and an equally cool plane set. The Duck is probably my favorite aircraft in the game, even if it is a bit crap.... (Probably more to do with the mug flying it rather than the plane itself though! ).

 

The Kuban map and plane set is what really kicked my love for il-2 into overdrive... now I just buy everything!  ?

[76IAP-Black]

Would buy it here from the il2 website, they have good sales and the premium Kuban has the most interesting landscape.

Otherwise, check the planelist, deside what you like and go for it, you will end up buying all modules later or sooner ?

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

43 minutes ago, mikek1357 said:

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

 

Then at first glance battle of Bodenplatte sounds like the good choice BUT before you buy you must consider this :

 

1. It is the general consensus right now that the .50 M2 machine guns are underpowered and this clearly affects the american planes in a big fashion. 

 

2. If you intend to focus on single player, I will assume you will be playing the dynamic careers. Know that the careers in Bodeplatte are by far the most redundant and well, boring. You will never see a single P-51 or P-38 unless you fly one. If you buy Bodenplatte, PWDC is a MUST. 

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, mikek1357 said:

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

 

I'd get one of the Russian modules then - it is good to broaden one's horizons!

 

I'd also argue that it is good to start with slower aircraft (e.g. BoM) and then experience the increase in speed/firepower (and often worse handling) of the BoBP aircraft after.

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, mikek1357 said:

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

 

In retrospect I would always again start with Battle of Stalingrad (BoS). It gives you a very good idea if the planes, the visuals, the handling, the quick battles and the single player career mode are what you like. At present BoS Premium edition (incl. Fw190A3 and La-5) is only 11,99 USD if you buy it directly from here: Store / IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles (il2sturmovik.com)

 

If you like what you see, then later expand to collector planes and/or other modules. You will not regret it.

[itsbillyfrazier]

As you can see @mikek1357, there are lots of excellent and differing opinions on what to buy first, safe bet is to buy them all! ?

[mikek1357]

1 minute ago, itsbillyfrazier said:

As you can see @mikek1357, there are lots of excellent and differing opinions on what to buy first, safe bet is to buy them all! ?

? Yep, might be an option. I'm already happy with the suggestions. I already had some experience with the original IL2 back in the day. 

[PatrickAWlson]

2 hours ago, mikek1357 said:

I'll be doing single player mostly, but not only. I like US and German aircraft

 

That makes it easy: Bodenplatte.

 

As a first module I would not advise a Normandy preorder.  

Edited April 22, 2021 by PatrickAWlson

[Na-zdorovie]

well i would go Kuban then bodenplatte, plus any collector ones you want, i think the kuban map is the best one so far

[Wraith76]

Hi all,

 

I just created my account today and I plan on buying the Battle of Stalingrad premium package, that is unless you guys suggest a better route. I do have a couple of questions 1. Why does Battle of BoddenPlatte show VR support but none of the other modules do? I know the others have VR since I've watched a few videos so I am wondering what the VR support implies other than the obvious? 2. I can see in the descriptions that there is "Player controlled Tanks" in all modules(minus Boddenplatte?) but so does this mean the module comes with tanks that i can control or that I have to buy them in a separate purchase then I can use them in that module? How do I find out what tanks are available for control, and are they multi crew?

 

Anyways, my main goal is to play in VR with a buddy of mine and do coop related things such as be in the same tank or airplane together. I think this is possible with what I have seen in videos. I would really appreciate any input or advice the community has. Thanks all!

 

i9 10900k (5.3Ghz)

62GB 3200 DDR4

2080Ti

HP Reverb G2

M.2 2280 SSD

 

[cardboard_killer]

1 hour ago, Wraith76 said:

1. Why does Battle of BoddenPlatte show VR support but none of the other modules do?

 

Not sure why, because all the modules use the same engine. Indeed, when you download any of the modules, you download all of them. However,  you only get access to the planes you paid for.

[Mollotin]

Hi. All "battles" have vr support. Its actually just one big game and buying DLC just unlocks more content. 

 

There is 2 playable tanks in stalingrad but they are low quality and there is no full interior modelled.

 

il 2 Tank crew has 10 tanks with full interior. multicrewing a tank is possible.

 

i suggest u buy a module that has planes u want to fly with. and if u want to seriously play tanks then tank crew is a must.

u can however, join a player tank (for example as a gunner) in multiplayer even if u dont have il2 tankcrew urself.

 

btw nice system u got there!

[Wraith76]

38 minutes ago, Mollotin said:

Hi. All "battles" have vr support. Its actually just one big game and buying DLC just unlocks more content. 

 

There is 2 playable tanks in stalingrad but they are low quality and there is no full interior modelled.

 

il 2 Tank crew has 10 tanks with full interior. multicrewing a tank is possible.

 

i suggest u buy a module that has planes u want to fly with. and if u want to seriously play tanks then tank crew is a must.

u can however, join a player tank (for example as a gunner) in multiplayer even if u dont have il2 tankcrew urself.

 

btw nice system u got there!

 

Thanks for the info. Quick question, how is the VR experience with Tank Crew? I am amazed I can't find any videos of people playing vr other than 1 or 2 vids. Also, no multicrew for the 2 tanks in BOS?

Edited April 27, 2021 by Wraith76

[Mollotin]

multicrew for all tanks. only 2 crew positions in bos tanks. u can multicrew 

bos tanks as one player in gunner/commander and other one as driver.

 

IL 2 tank crew tanks u can multicrew for example one player as commander (commander can also drive the tank with wasd keys) and other player as gunner.

 

 

sorry i havent tried tanks with vr and no longer have my vr headset.

 

edit:

actually i think u get the 2 tanks if u buy any module. a pz3 and a t 34 76.

 

i bpught bos as my first module.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Mollotin

[Wraith76]

23 minutes ago, Mollotin said:

multicrew for all tanks. only 2 crew positions in bos tanks. u can multicrew 

bos tanks as one player in gunner/commander and other one as driver.

 

IL 2 tank crew tanks u can multicrew for example one player as commander (commander can also drive the tank with wasd keys) and other player as gunner.

 

 

sorry i havent tried tanks with vr and no longer have my vr headset.

 

edit:

actually i think u get the 2 tanks if u buy any module. a pz3 and a t 34 76.

 

i bpught bos as my first module.

 

I bought the BOS and it does have two tanks. I went ahead and got the Tank Crew as well. Thanks

[PeanutBunny]

Any insight into this would be wonderful ❤️

I just bought my first gaming pc, and I need to know if y’all think it will run this game well

 

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-i5-9300H-GeForce-Keyboard-AN515-54-5812/dp/B086KJBKDW/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=gaming+laptop&qid=1619412291&s=electronics&sr=1-6

 

Here’s the pc I bought. I’m super excited

Edited April 28, 2021 by PeanutBunny
Bad writing

[AEthelraedUnraed]

2 hours ago, Wraith76 said:

how is the VR experience with Tank Crew?

To be honest, less than stellar.

 

The driver's position is absolutely great (and in most tanks the default commander position too)! But in most other posts, your head position is locked (so if you move your head, the camera stays at the same position), inducing motion sickness.

 

The aiming view is not fantastic either, it's basically just a 2D screen with the gunsight in the middle. Though I do wonder how they could implement a better method without having to resort to pretty GPU-intensive calculations such as a fully working 3D gunsight with zoom and all...

[Wraith76]

41 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

To be honest, less than stellar.

 

The driver's position is absolutely great (and in most tanks the default commander position too)! But in most other posts, your head position is locked (so if you move your head, the camera stays at the same position), inducing motion sickness.

 

The aiming view is not fantastic either, it's basically just a 2D screen with the gunsight in the middle. Though I do wonder how they could implement a better method without having to resort to pretty GPU-intensive calculations such as a fully working 3D gunsight with zoom and all...

 I'm not too discouraged by the locked head position but I bet it does cause motion sickness. I would've gotten the tanks anyways even if no VR was implemented but its good to hear some input on how it is. I would've been posting that head locked position as a bug if you hadn't of posted haha. I'll get to try out VR over the weekend so I am looking forward to it!. Thanks again!

[Wraith76]

1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

To be honest, less than stellar.

 

The driver's position is absolutely great (and in most tanks the default commander position too)! But in most other posts, your head position is locked (so if you move your head, the camera stays at the same position), inducing motion sickness.

 

The aiming view is not fantastic either, it's basically just a 2D screen with the gunsight in the middle. Though I do wonder how they could implement a better method without having to resort to pretty GPU-intensive calculations such as a fully working 3D gunsight with zoom and all...

 

Hey another quick question since, Is the game only in Russian language? I don't know what my crew is saying and I see no way of switching it to English.

[ITAF_Airone1989]

Until you are using Russian planes/tanks/vehicles they will speak in Russian, but you should see the English translation in the chat on your right

[Beebop]

There's a mod for that.

 

[Schleppel]

Dear old veterans of the skies,

 

Big read ahead apologies....

 

When I was a little kid I used to play Combat Flight Simulator WWII series. I loved the game, I spend hours shooting down other fighters or bombers and even sometimes just bombing the ground without targets. When I saw a movie recently about the Battle of Britain I started remembering the game and I searched for it online. It barely works on my current PC but I think my imagination also helped quite a lot with that game, for now it doesn't look as realistic as it did back then. 

I started searching for other combat flight simulator and did some research after the possibilities. I found this one, DCS and War Thunder. I downloaded War Thunder and spit it out within a few minutes. I was too arcade for me and the controls were a little strange in my opinion. I especially disliked the little dot constantly in my screen. DCS I read was a real simulator or something so not really ideal for me I thought. So then this game (which honestly looked to me like the best one from the start) came into my crosshair.

I searched for multiple clips on YouTube and have been reading the forum for a period of time now. Really got the urge to buy the game on sale last week but something still held me back so I hope you guys might help me out.

 

I really want to play this game with the option combat flight simulator also had and that "mouse as stick". So when I pull my mouse backwards, the plane goes up, left it tilts to the left etc. Then for stuff like landing gear, throttle, shooting and whatnot this game has I use the keyboard. Is this a possible setting? I know most players advice a joystick but that's not feasible in my student housing.....

 

Secondly, I'm kind of confused about the play options. I know most players are here for the online experience but I would like to be able to take-off and fly a few miles to my mission, shoot some and return home safely. I really loved that campaign of CFS because you could always continue the campaign (not the mission) even if you got shot down. You weren't one super hero in the story but rather you experienced the campaign through multiple guys and you decided how long they lived. Anyway the question is more, how is single player? Is there some kind of campaign does it only have like a sandbox mode where you decide "I wanna fight 5 planes" and it loads you up like that?

 

Lastly, I read often that BoS is regarded as the more fun/better game compared to CLoD. I personally edge more towards the last one because I love the story about the battle of Britain and am quite unknown with the Eastern sky front. I think I would like the spitfires more than the Russian planes and I think the flight from land to sea and back would be cool with the Germans. Why are there so many BoS fanboys around and is that due to single player or more fun multiplayer planes?

 

I hope I'm not a too annoying noob. But I guess you guys are passionate about the game and would love to convince me to buy it. So I'd love to see your best effort ;)

 

Kind regards,

Schleppel

[Bj2021]

Hi i have been trying to download the game for two days and when It gets to the download the game it fails to update. I am able to download anything else, and It always fails at near the end. Is there any other way to download the game? All I want to do is be able to play the game!

 

 

Thanks

 

 

Brenden

[pippa101]

Hi Schleppel, I may be an old geezer but like you I liked the no fuss Microsoft CFS. I also flew in the original IL2 Sturmovik complete edition pack, and there may be some here who remember SWOTL, flying corps, knights of the sky or BoB? I have rediscovered my filght sim interest recently. I find BOS much more in tune with CFS and IL2 (complete edition) than CloD. I like both but the BoS series is much more 'useable' as a complete amateur pilot. I have completed BoS and progressed onto Kuban nicely without issues. I have little interest in complex engine management etc. and I acknowledge that I'm not a great pilot but you can have real fun with single player BoS although it does get a bit repetitive after a while. But by the time it gets repetitive you'll have added additional aircraft and/or missions, like me.

Start with BoS and see where it takes you....you won't regret it.

[Schleppel]

Hi Pippa101,

 

Really appreciate the response and it's nice to hear somebody else enjoyed the old CFS as much as I di.d

 

 

I think you make some valid points. I'm not really a good pilot (read, I can fly straight in the air but next to that im hopeless) so I think it would be nice to have little to care about when considering engine management. 

Could you maybe elaborate a little on the engine management in BoS and how much I have to take into account when I'm for example in the middle of a fight? Can I for example all of the sudden have an overheated engine which falls out and I drop like a brick? 

 

I think I will definitely dive deeper into BoS now. Shame its more expensive now they have full prices again.

Again, thanks for the response and I look forward to your answer. 

 

Kind regards,

Schleppel

 

That reminds me. Do you people buy from the IL-2 store or via steam? Steam seems massively overpriced....

Edited April 30, 2021 by Schleppel

[rogueblade]

Schleppel, most folks recommend to buy BoS on Steam then any other version of Great Battles direct from the store. Then you launch through Steam when you want to play and they're all linked together. 

 

Based on the type of gamplay you want I still think you may want to give War Thunder another try despite IL2 being the suprior and more honest flight sim. WT I believe has 3 different levels of depth on how arcadey to simulation you want, I can't quite recall I haven't played it in about six years. It has all the mouse controls and simple keybinds for guns and bombs similar to your past experiences with CFS. IL2 does haves the simple mission set up you desire were you can add 1-8 enemies on a single player map and fight against them (I don't recall War Thunder having this). It lets you choose their loadout, skill level, alttiude and direction and you can add teammates to your side too. In IL2 you can still focus on and fly only Western aircraft, there's plently of them especially if your buy BoB. Later this year IL2 should be releasing BoN (Normany) which will give you the full Channel experience you desire, but the planes you want are already in the game. With IL2 you can simplify and remove engine management all together if you want; a setting screen exists to simplify/assist in all the things you're not interested in doing

 

despite all that, I don't know if the mouse gameplay you want exists in IL2. I'd never recommend it, search around the forum and if it's there then go for it

Edited April 30, 2021 by rogueblade

[Schleppel]

Hey Rogueblade,

 

Really appreciate the advice!

 

I have tried WT on the simulation mode. I think it would be quite okay but I just really disliked how you went were the pointer of your mouse was on the screen. I'd more appreciate it if my mouse wasn't visible and it was just like the joystick. Another thing I was totally disgusted about was the model of WT. It is supposed to be free but none of the campaigns are free so to me it felt like a scam. Therefore I started searching for a better and more honest simulator. I don't mind paying for my games but I do want content or enjoyable gameplay. 

Looking closely at this screenshot you made. Is it not possible to play IL-2 also rather arcadey? Its not that I want that, but I'm thinking maybe it would be nice to start off with some more assists and then gradually improve my piloting skills until I can fly independently.

 

And regarding the steam connection. I saw that most people advised that after some digging around. I was actually totally oblivious how amazing IL-2 is created with the combination of their Great Battles games. I only see the big price difference between Steam and the developers themselves and also read that (as was expected) Steam gets a percentage. What are the exact benefits of adding it to steam? I feel like I can also just buy them from the creators and just support them fully rather than putting more money in the steam ocean.

 

Appreciate your time!

 

Kind regards, Schleppel

[Dakpilot]

Unless you have a need or desire to play through steam there really is no benefit or difference, the patches are automatic (but  little later and of larger size) on steam. 

 

Even at full price I find it very good value especially with continuous updates to base game for free. 

 

Last time I checked BoS has mouse control and options from easy arcade to 'sim' 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[Patricks]

1 hour ago, Dakpilot said:

Unless you have a need or desire to play through steam there really is no benefit or difference, the patches are automatic (but  little later and of larger size) on steam. 

Even at full price I find it very good value especially with continuous updates to base game for free. 

Last time I checked BoS has mouse control and options from easy arcade to 'sim' 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

 

The big difference between Steam and buying direct is once you buy a Steam module the only way to have access to ALL modules from one menu is through the Steam Startup.  If you buy a module from IL-2 direct and another from Steam you won't have access to the Steam module through the IL-2 startup but can access both from Steam. This also requires an added step to link the modules. Just buy everything from one or the other, but the IL-2 guys get more income if you buy direct so that is advised. Another BIG problem with buying from Steam, your badges won't show up on the left side of your posts, only the ones you bought direct (I bought BoS and FC vol 1 as my 1st modules from Steam before I knew better..)!

Edited April 30, 2021 by Icer