Trooper117 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 9 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Because it won’t be happening here. Yep... can't see the dev's wasting time on it. Let's think, are the dev's known for having lot's of blood, gore, dismemberment etc in their previous titles?
BraveSirRobin Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Why do you not want others to see blood? I said no such thing. I just pointed out that pilots rarely, if ever, saw any blood. That doesn’t make the game “family friendly”, it’s just realistic. The one story I heard where a pilot did see blood was pretty horrific. It involved a pilot bailing out and then being hit dead on by a P-51. He was shredded. Is that the sort of thing that you want to see the game recreate?
jollyjack Posted January 5 Posted January 5 i'd prefer ketchup (Heinz sponsorship for IL2?) or Red Wine.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 5 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said: I don't think anyone 'wants' to block anything for anyone else. It's simply not a part of the game. IL2 GB has been developed for a long time now, so I'd assume that if the Devs had wanted to do something like this they'd have done it a long time ago. How likely are they to introduce it at this point in development ? There's a long list of things 1C/customers want but haven't been implemented yet, just because it hasn't been done yet is not evidence it won't be done in the future. Theres a video by JTM linked earlier in this thread that shows a IL2 game with blood though, so it has been done before. They're making a new series as we speak, so its the perfect time to introduce something like this. 1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said: I said no such thing. I just pointed out that pilots rarely, if ever, saw any blood. That doesn’t make the game “family friendly”, it’s just realistic. The one story I heard where a pilot did see blood was pretty horrific. It involved a pilot bailing out and then being hit dead on by a P-51. He was shredded. Is that the sort of thing that you want to see the game recreate? Are you saying its realistic for people not to bleed when they're shot, exploded, hit by propellers etc.? P
BraveSirRobin Posted January 5 Posted January 5 31 minutes ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: Are you saying it’s realistic for people not to bleed when they're shot, exploded, hit by propellers etc.? P No, and this should be really obvious by now, I’m saying that it’s unrealistic for you to see any of that blood if you are a WW2 pilot.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 Historically rare maybe, but historically pilots only died once in general. Respawns/restarts change everything. It doesn't matter how historically rare or common it was for real pilots to see blood, when my virtual pilot is in the situation to see blood/gore its magical not to see it.
BraveSirRobin Posted January 5 Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: Historically rare maybe, but historically pilots only died once in general. Respawns/restarts change everything. It doesn't matter how historically rare or common it was for real pilots to see blood, when my virtual pilot is in the situation to see blood/gore its magical not to see it. Lots of magical things happen in flight sims. You can’t see your hands or feet in the game, either. I suppose they could put a lot of effort into changing all of that, and spraying blood around the cockpit, but it seems extremely unlikely.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 Yeah there's a long list of things the sim needs to be perfect, and it will never finish that list, because no sim will ever be perfect, but this is one of the things on my list. I don't think this one is too far fetched, but only time will tell.
[CPT]Crunch Posted January 5 Posted January 5 There's plenty of other ways to provide feedback of extreme duress in the pit, one of the features they added was the fire in the cockpit, that's a good one but rarely seen. First time it happened to me in a Mustang B I swore I smelled smoke and actually lifted my VR goggles up to check the room. I'd love to see shrapnel fragments fly through the cockpit and shatter the glass in poofs of glass dust taking out those instruments in their direct trajectory only. Refined and enhanced super cockpit damages, the mirror gone in a poof of glass dust with a new bullet hole right through the frame type of stuff. Much greater canopy variety with damages, pieces wobbling, weakening, and ripping off later in the slipstream while you have a swirling windstorm inside the cockpit raising dust and debris from other damages. You don't necessarily need only blood and gore to get the message your in a real hurt bag. 1
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 8 hours ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: Yeah there's a long list of things the sim needs to be perfect, and it will never finish that list, because no sim will ever be perfect, but this is one of the things on my list. I don't think this one is too far fetched, but only time will tell. Maybe you should do a poll to see how popular it would be to have blood spray all over the cockpit when someone is wounded.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 31 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: Maybe you should do a poll to see how popular it would be to have blood spray all over the cockpit when someone is wounded. It wouldn't matter, the forums not 1:1 representative of the current global player base, or future player base.
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BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: It wouldn't matter, the forums not 1:1 representative of the current global player base, or future player base. So you think the devs would add a feature that is not popular with the people who post on their forum?
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: So you think the devs would add a feature that is not popular with the people who post on their forum? Yup, Korea was dead last in this poll, and here we are in the Korea section. 1
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: Yup, Korea was dead last in this poll, and here we are in the Korea section. And yet it seems to be pretty popular. That should tell you something about polling. Just because something is less popular than other things, that does not mean that it is unpopular. The fact that you don’t want to poll gore against no gore says a lot about how you think it will go.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: That should tell you something about polling. It tells me these polls are junk/for fun, and I don't care how it would turn out. 1
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 19 minutes ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: It tells me these polls are junk/for fun, and I don't care how it would turn out. You probably should care, because a change like that is not going to be added if hardly anyone wants it.
1CGS LukeFF Posted January 6 1CGS Posted January 6 Guys, this thread is teetering awfully close to being locked. Stay on-topic and away from the insults, please. 1
GOA_Karaya_VR Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I remember some Mods for 1946 that makes the game a little bit real, maybe some blood splash and bulet holes on the canopy may work. Something like this. Regards.
AEthelraedUnraed Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 20 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: I said no such thing. So let me get this straight; supposing that implementing blood would not harm other enhancements to the game (i.e. the Devs have infinite time/money), you would be in favour of having an option for blood, although you would personally leave it off? 20 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: I just pointed out that pilots rarely, if ever, saw any blood. That doesn’t make the game “family friendly”, it’s just realistic. Pilots in multi-crewed aircraft did; sometimes up to exploded brain pulp and all. While less important for Korea since we don't have multiple crew members sharing a single compartment, the Devs have hinted at a playable B-25 possibly making an appearance in the next module. Also a large portion of all the pilots that got wounded did. As the Devs have already confirmed being able to see your own body in the cockpit, this is relevant for Korea. Thirdly, real pilots also hardly ever had out-of-body experiences orbiting enemy aircraft and vehicles in 3rd person view, like we do all the time (at least I do). 18 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: Lots of magical things happen in flight sims. You can’t see your hands or feet in the game, either. I suppose they could put a lot of effort into changing all of that, and spraying blood around the cockpit, but it seems extremely unlikely. Actually, they *are* changing all that With the upcoming visible pilot bodies, blood becomes a lot more relevant. 9 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: So you think the devs would add a feature that is not popular with the people who post on their forum? I am somewhat curious of why you assume that: 1) blood is not popular with the people on this forum, given that a significant portion of the people in this thread has indicated a preference for some measure of blood, and 2) the people who post on this forum (let alone in this thread) are representative for the player base as a whole. Edited January 6 by AEthelraedUnraed 1
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: I am somewhat curious of why you assume that: 1) blood is not popular with the people on this forum, given that a significant portion of the people in this thread has indicated a preference for some measure of blood, and 2) the people who post on this forum (let alone in this thread) are representative for the player base as a whole. 1. I’m not assuming it’s unpopular. But he sure seems to think it’s unpopular. If you’re trying to get the devs to invest the resources to make a change that you think would be popular it’s probably a good idea to show that it’s popular. If you realize that it might not be popular then you just try to shuck and jive it into popularity. 2. Everyone is aware of that. But it’s better than nothing. And right now you’ve got nothing.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 Let's poll you. @BraveSirRobin If you want to cast doubt on this issue, we should know where you stand on it. If the blood/gore feature was in the game, would you turn it on or off?
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 13 minutes ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: Let's poll you. @BraveSirRobin If you want to cast doubt on this issue, we should know where you stand on it. If the blood/gore feature was in the game, would you turn it on or off? I don’t really care because I don’t expect them to add gore even if it’s popular.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 Why are you in here casting doubt if you don't care? You haven't said if you'd turn it on or off if it was in, or if you want to block others from turning it on.
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I don’t think that they’re going to add gore. That’s it. Whether or not I think it’s a good idea is completely irrelevant.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 Time is the most valuable thing we have, I'd suggest you to avoid spending yours in threads you don't care about.
BraveSirRobin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I’m retired. I have plenty of time to spend doing all sorts of useless things. It’s a pretty good gig. 7
TempestV Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: I’m retired. I have plenty of time to spend doing all sorts of useless things. It’s a pretty good gig. Here, Here ....Gawd I have too many books to read and flight sims/strategy games to play...read...gardening/puttering....nap..walk 15-17K steps a day! It is A DAMN GOOD GIG. 😁🍸🍾 Edited January 6 by TempestV 1
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