Onward to 2025!

[LukeFF]

Posted also in the Korea part of the forum, but there's lots of GB news to share 🙂 https://il2-korea.com/news/dd_19 

 

[No105_Swoose]

I’ve read on a few forums that the Golden Age of combat flight sims was the late 1990s/early 2000s with European Air War, CFS, Rowan’s MiG Alley, etc.  But after today’s DD with an excellent recap of 2024 and an exciting preview of what’s ahead in 2025 I would say the Golden Age of flight sims is now.  We have so much to look forward to next year.  And shout out to Combat Pilot and DCS too!

Re Korea: With all the talk of the Regimental Commander unit management system I still hope it will be possible to simply fly a career as Joe, Ivan, or Wang “Snuffy”.

[Aapje]

@LukeFF

 

So if I understand correctly the Western Front map will be finished and the airship released without another FC module, right?

 

 

[LukeFF]

19 minutes ago, Aapje said:

@LukeFF

 

So if I understand correctly the Western Front map will be finished and the airship released without another FC module, right?

 

As of right now, yes.

[ST_Catchov]

4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

As of right now, yes.

 

Gotcha. Plans change, right.  

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

As of right now, yes.

Does this mean Channel map?  Or something else?

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Does this mean Channel map?  Or something else?

 

It means as of right now there is no new module planned. 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Was asking about the map work. I understand no new module planned.  To be more specific,  this part " For the WWI era, we will finish the 1918 Western Front map used in the Flying Circus modules."

 

 

Can you offer any clarification?  Thanks in advance. 

Looking forward to the airships..  wow. Never expected that.

Edited December 29, 2024 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[LukeFF]

It means the map will be fleshed out more with more detail - landmarks, terrain features, etc. Sorry, not much more now I can share right now about what's coming.

[86Cheese]

Airships? AIRSHIPS?! 

 

[Rudini]

@LukeFF and the other developers! First of all, thanks for 2024s work done!

And some question...

 

WWI airdromes

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For the WWI era, we will finish the 1918 Western Front map used in the Flying Circus modules

• Please update the airplanes on the runways. I mean some lined up Halberstadt D.II fighters from 1916 lined up in 1918 destroys every emersion feeling. thanks
• And if updated, ad some liason aircraft to the groundobjects, for example replace the Halberstadt D.II fighters with a more suited type for the eras + one DFW C.V

 

 

Karelia

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the Odessa region and Karelia, and 8 aircraft from the early and late periods of the war. Its career mode will be divided into two parts for historical reasons: around 1941 and 1944, when the front there started to move again.

• That means a 1941 career scenario for Karelia, too?
• So logically there will be at least the Brewster Buffalo included?!

 

 

Odessa 

For Odessa 1944: i suppose the career will span from march/april 44 to august 44

• There is a big gap for Luftwaffe units from june to august, since most were sent to Poland to halten the Soviet offensive.
  • What is the plan for the career builder team?
  • Will there be some unrealistic unit stays, like III./JG 52 on Kuban for the time after 03.07.43?
  • There will be at least some close recon units (Bf 109) and the Romanians. Anything else?
  • Will IV./NJG 6 be involved, even if they were not stationed there? I mean, there should be at least 5./NJG 200 ec. 7./NJG 100 in that area for some period of time.
• Facing the 10.(Nacht)/ZG 1 for Kuban and now 5./NJG 200 for Odessa, it could be interesting to update the Bf 110 G-2 to a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter version. Gameplay could be easy done like in Il-2 1946 (team daidalos?) since the map with bogeys techniqe is already implemented in the gameplay (ive disabled this with a MOD). Look here

 

Switch from Axis to Allies

• The most interesting question for me is: will there be the possibility to switch from Axis to Allies, like the Finns and Romania did?
  • I mean as far as i know, there was no much fighting in the air in Karelia and just a little more than this in Romania.
  • But for Odessa, if the Carrer lasts until 26.08.44 and the Romanians switched Sides on 23.08.44 in the ongoing Soviet offensive, there will be at least some days left for ground support missions and even some clashes between Bf 109s and Bf 109s+IAR 80s (although those air clashes didnt occur only later around Bucharest and Western Romanian therritory). But is suppose the old engine does not support something like this.

 

Career for Finns and Romanians

• Okay, we have already some Romanian units over Stalingrad and Kuban.
• But! It makes no sense giving them German names (although very few Pilots from the german minority of romania flew with the ARR), ranks and medals.
• Same for the Finns! Would it make more sense to create separate Career Paths like the already splitted Allies (VVS, RAF, USAF)? What are the plans?

 

 

Switch map from eastern to western front in mai 44

Luftwaffe and Galland took from each fighter group in the east one of their three squadrons each to send them to the west. 

For Odessa the relevant groups are:

> I./JG 52 gave 2./JG 52 away (29.05.44)

> II./JG 52 gave 4./JG 52 away (29.05.44)

> III./JG 52 gave 7./JG 52 away (they fought until late june, see Graf von Treuberg claims in Prien)

> III./JG 77 gave 9./JG 77 away (29.05.44), although they were not at the Odessa map at that time.

 

As you can see, 4./JG 52 and 7./JG 52 and 9./JG 77 are already in the normandy career integrated.

 

My request is: please make it possible to fight on the eastern front/Odessa with at least both JG 52 squadrons until 29.05.44 (4./JG 52) and 27.06.44 (7./JG 52) and then to switch to the normandy. thanks 

 

 

Thanks and best regars!

 

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Rudini

[AEthelraedUnraed]

2 hours ago, Rudini said:

Karelia

• That means a 1941 career scenario for Karelia, too?
• So logically there will be at least the Brewster Buffalo included?!

The Devs already announced a 1941 career for Odessa, so I think it's more likely than not that there will also be one for Karelia. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Buffalo will be included - the Finns had many other types of aircraft. They already announced the G-50, for one.

2 hours ago, Rudini said:

Switch from Axis to Allies

• The most interesting question for me is: will there be the possibility to switch from Axis to Allies, like the Finns and Romania did?
  • I mean as far as i know, there was no much fighting in the air in Karelia and just a little more than this in Romania.
  • But for Odessa, if the Carrer lasts until 26.08.44 and the Romanians switched Sides on 23.08.44 in the ongoing Soviet offensive, there will be at least some days left for ground support missions and even some clashes between Bf 109s and Bf 109s+IAR 80s (although those air clashes didnt occur only later around Bucharest and Western Romanian therritory). But is suppose the old engine does not support something like this.

The engine does actually support it, but I don't think we'll see it for the reason you already mentioned: "those air clashes didnt occur only later around Bucharest and Western Romanian therritory".

[BlitzPig_EL]

Captured French Curtiss Hawk 75s were sold by Germany to Finland, and were the second highest scoring type in the FAF after the Brewster.

How can you have a Finnish scenario without them both?

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by BlitzPig_EL

[Rudini]

we need for early 1941 at least an unflyable SB-2 or DB-3 bomber. Cant see those Pe-2 over Moscow any more.

Give me for Odessa some easy prey i can shoot at 😅

Edited December 31, 2024 by Rudini

[CzechTexan]

40 minutes ago, Rudini said:

we need for early 1941 at least an unflyable SB-2 or DB-3 bomber. Cant see those Pe-2 over Moscow any more.

Give me for Odessa some easy prey i can shoot at 😅

I second that.  The early war fighters need complementary early war bombers like the SB-2.  If not SB-2, then why not the single-engine Su-2 radial "sturmovik".  That would make an interesting ground-attacker.

These planes do not have to be flyable.  Russian fighters need early war bombers to escort and axis fighters need easy prey to shoot down to inflate their kill numbers.

[LukeFF]

Yes, the Luftwaffe units one would expect to see in the Odessa area in 1944 will be there and will come and go as the records show (and some new Romanian ones, too). More details will come in 2025. 🙂

[AEthelraedUnraed]

6 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Captured French Curtiss Hawk 75s were sold by Germany to Finland, and were the second highest scoring type in the FAF after the Brewster.

How can you have a Finnish scenario without them both?

 

 

I'm hoping for an aircraft that would also allow an early-war western front scenario. The Curtiss Hawk and MS 406 are two examples that could be used for a phoney war or Battle of France scenario, but the map doesn't really fit.

 

I'd rather have a D.XXI, which was used in May 1940 and for which we have a perfectly fitting map 😁

(Of course, the fact that it's a Dutch plane has absolutely nothing to do with it😇)

[Avimimus]

I get that - and with luck the Karelia team will find a 3d modeller for the D.XXI... as for me... I'm still wishing for my Fw-189 or Ar-196! 😄 I think you have better odds though!

[bbenham]

Seriously Korea ?   ugh.. 

 

I want Carriers.  I want to take off and land.  I want WWII carriers and WWII carrier planes.   So sad.  I have to go backwards in time to find it.

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, bbenham said:

Seriously Korea ?   ugh.. 

 

I want Carriers.  I want to take off and land.  I want WWII carriers and WWII carrier planes.   So sad.  I have to go backwards in time to find it.

 

We're making WWII carriers and planes. 🙂

[R7-S276]

maybe it will be time to give Finland and Romania the status of full and autonomous faction in the game like we could choose the Germany Russia USA and UK faction in the menu… and if it’s possible for Finland and Romania maybe France, Italy, Canada and others countries which fought in the air during WWII with one side or an other but UNDER THEIR OWN FLAG could be added too 🤔

[Trooper117]

11 hours ago, bbenham said:

Seriously Korea ?   ugh.. 

 

I want Carriers.  I want to take off and land.  I want WWII carriers and WWII carrier planes.   So sad.  I have to go backwards in time to find it.

 

Come back in a few years time, as they are making a Pacific war game after Korea... then perhaps you can cheer up a bit.

[bbenham]

Yep.  That's what I've always wanted.  So long to wait        Good to hear it's coming some day.

[BlitzPig_EL]

I'm thinking we will see carriers sooner than later...

 

[Aapje]

16 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

I'm thinking we will see carriers sooner than later...

 

They've pretty much confirmed that their development work on carriers went well and that they will release at least one for Korea already.