=DW=_bangat Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 why is for 3 years now that you guys don't fix the game freezes? We all know it is there. We all suffer. And no reaction from 1C Game Studios. 1
migmadmarine Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 6 hours ago, =DW=_bangat said: why is for 3 years now that you guys don't fix the game freezes? We all know it is there. We all suffer. And no reaction from 1C Game Studios. Are you running the game off of an SSD or an older style harddrive? I had it on a conventional drive for ages till around a year to a year and a half ago, and suffered awful freezes all the time. I finally moved my install to an SSD and the freezes are no longer an issue, on my end at least.
BOO Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 2 hours ago, migmadmarine said: Are you running the game off of an SSD or an older style harddrive? I had it on a conventional drive for ages till around a year to a year and a half ago, and suffered awful freezes all the time. I finally moved my install to an SSD and the freezes are no longer an issue, on my end at least. Ive always run successivly faster SSDs during my time with GB. For me the freezes are there but are largely resultant from large cities and the manner in which they have been produced on maps starting at Rhineland which co-incided with the way in which the devs "shortcut" how they did things. From what I can see things no longer render and graduate through successive LODS indivudually or in small groups as they hit the edge of a player "bubble" but now do so in large sections causing a stutter in either the VRAM or RAM as they load.
AEthelraedUnraed Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 10 hours ago, =DW=_bangat said: We all know it is there Right now, I don't even know what you're talking about. A "freeze" generally means that the game turns completely unresponsive, or even CTDs. IL2 is actually one of the most stable games I've ever played, with perhaps 1 crash every 100 hours or so. So if this is what you mean with "freezes," then no, it I don't know it is there at all. If you mean "stutters," then there's lots of different versions of stuttering too. There's microstutters in VR, stuttering caused by framerate drops, stuttering if a certain effect is loaded (e.g. tracers), stutters if a city is loaded, stutters if there's too many AI around, and whatnot. I suppose you could call ghosting in VR "stutters" too, if you stretch your definitions far enough. 10 hours ago, =DW=_bangat said: why Supposing you mean stutters when loading a city (which isn't clear at all from your post), @BOO has already given you the "why". With the remark that the Rheinland/Normandy maps don't render cities any differently than Kuban and earlier maps; it's just that the cities are (much) bigger while at the same time they're more detailed. Things like this (i.e. changing LODs and loading stuff) are always a tradeoff between various performance metrics, where loading issues are only one side of the story. Rest assured that if there was any easy fix, the Devs would have fixed it long ago. So either buy a faster SSD, or wait for Korea where they've completely changed the graphics engine, likely making it possible to solve issues like this as well.
BOO Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: With the remark that the Rheinland/Normandy maps don't render cities any differently than Kuban and earlier maps; it's just that the cities are (much) bigger while at the same time they're more detailed. We shall have to disagree. From Dev Diary 202 "To be able to finish this work in time while modeling the general layout of the cities and towns the special settlement block designer tool has been created"
AEthelraedUnraed Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 1 hour ago, BOO said: We shall have to disagree. From Dev Diary 202 "To be able to finish this work in time while modeling the general layout of the cities and towns the special settlement block designer tool has been created" The tools with which something is created tell absolutely nothing about how the end result works You can load the Rheinland_Cities.Group file in the Mission Editor and have a look at it; there's nothing inherently different from, let's say, the BoS equivalent Stalingrad_ALL_Towns.Group. The block files themselves aren't much different either, except that the Rheinland/Normandy buildings are more detailed and that their cities are much more densely populated than the Russian ones. 1
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 There's a good chance he means this: Not technically a crash, but it has the same end and is very old and well known. AFAIK no ones knows what causes it, so unless it gets fixed by accident its here to stay.
BOO Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: The tools with which something is created tell absolutely nothing about how the end result works You can load the Rheinland_Cities.Group file in the Mission Editor and have a look at it; there's nothing inherently different from, let's say, the BoS equivalent Stalingrad_ALL_Towns.Group. The block files themselves aren't much different either, except that the Rheinland/Normandy buildings are more detailed and that their cities are much more densely populated than the Russian ones. I stand corrected.
FlyingH Posted Wednesday at 08:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:25 PM Jay @jay2cent released this video on his youtube that might explain one of the culprits for microstutters. He also shows one solution that might help some of you, and even explain and fix some loosing periferals (mouse and keyboard etc.) when playing. If that is the case than it can´t be a game issue.
CzechTexan Posted yesterday at 11:17 PM Posted yesterday at 11:17 PM My game freezes when any vehicle falls or drives into a river, like when crossing a destroyed bridge. Hitting the ESC key continues the game. I have to be careful when building missions in order to avoid this problem.
jollyjack Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) Hi, can you post a crashing mission, i'll check it on my system and report back. Specs of your PC and windows version might be also helpful, just in case. Edited 14 hours ago by jollyjack
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