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[Juri_JS]

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3. Bf 109 G-4 and Bf 109 G-6: added engine modifications from 1943 with increased operating time in emergency modes;

For which period would it be correct to use this modification?

[YoYo]

What about hotfix for Fokker E.III and his anemometer + few things? 🙏

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Juri_JS said:

For which period would it be correct to use this modification?

 

Spring 1943 onwards

[Juri_JS]

12 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Spring 1943 onwards

So basically every Bf-109 G-6 should use this modification, except the very first examples delivered in early 1943?

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

So basically every Bf-109 G-6 should use this modification, except the very first examples delivered in early 1943?

 

Yes, that sounds right. 

[FTC_ChilliBalls]

17 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, that sounds right. 

Any news on when (or whether) we can expect the 3 min emergency power on the G6 Late and G6/AS?

Also, will the underlying change be implemented for the G14 engine modeling (as in for manifold pressures in between 1.3 and 1.42ata)?

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, FTC_ChilliBalls said:

Any news on when (or whether) we can expect the 3 min emergency power on the G6 Late and G6/AS?

Also, will the underlying change be implemented for the G14 engine modeling (as in for manifold pressures in between 1.3 and 1.42ata)?

 

No timeline right now, and that's more @Gavrick's area of expertise to address. 

[Roland_HUNter]

On 12/3/2024 at 3:39 PM, Juri_JS said:

For which period would it be correct to use this modification?

 

1943 march/april.

[Roland_HUNter]

4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

No timeline right now, and that's more @Gavrick's area of expertise to address. 

For those planes the 3 min should be default. And if we don't count that 1 month, G6 should have the same.

[the_emperor]

On 12/3/2024 at 5:40 PM, Juri_JS said:

So basically every Bf-109 G-6 should use this modification, except the very first examples delivered in early 1943?

Yes,

more or less. It would have been historically more accurate if the G-6 had the 3min limit from the start by default.

the G-4 should have the 1.42ata setting blocked and the 3min option to unlock.

the 1min limit was never issued (thus far no one could present a 1min cleared 1.42ata setting and thus far no reasoning was presented why it was keept that long in the game, but I am happy it got corrected).

it was either blocked or cleared for 3min starting in spring ´43 with individual air planes or fresh G-6s from the factory.

 

18 hours ago, LukeFF said:

No timeline right now, and that's more @Gavrick's area of expertise to address. 

 

will the F-4 also get an upgrade to 3min later.

and more importantly with the advent of Korea 

will the La-5fn time limited be corrected to 5min, as its engines was very much use by that time and the manuals are clear on that.

[FuriousMeow]

Unless the La5FN is being made for Korea, which I'm pretty sure it isn't,  the FM won't have any reason to be touched. 

[BlitzPig_EL]

For Korea I'd say the La 11 is the best bet.

[the_emperor]

2 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

For Korea I'd say the La 11 is the best bet

Same engine as the La-5fn

limited to 5min WEP

the Tu-2 is already announced, same engine as the La-5fn limited to 5min WEP

[FuriousMeow]

3 hours ago, the_emperor said:

Same engine as the La-5fn

limited to 5min WEP

the Tu-2 is already announced, same engine as the La-5fn limited to 5min WEP

The engine has nothing to do with the modeling. They don't program an engine that's used across different airframe and then plug it into a airframe FM in the code. Each plane is coded individually regardless of same engine. Plus, these planes are being coded for Korea and there's an indication they will have more detailed aerodynamic modeling. 

 

Maybe they'll revisit the La5FN, if there's time, but simply because another plane has the same engine doesn't mean it's a simple copy paste 2 second job. 

[the_emperor]

15 hours ago, FuriousMeow said:

the FM won't have any reason to be touched. 

 

well, I would historicall accuracy a reason 🙂

7 hours ago, FuriousMeow said:

The engine has nothing to do with the modeling. They don't program an engine that's used across different airframe and then plug it into a airframe FM in the code.

 

Na, I meant that all those manuals for the engins and planes over a time span that covers Korea & WW2 and multiple planes speak of 5min WEP limit but the IL-2 iteration has 10min.

7 hours ago, FuriousMeow said:

Maybe they'll revisit the La5FN

I hope they do. for the sake of historical accuracy 

[FuriousMeow]

It isn't just changing the 1180@2500rpm boost to 5 min, also need to add, depending on sources, continuous 1180@2400rpm or 10 min. Even after the change the La5FN is gonna be on LW planes like a famished dog on a meat stick.

[LukeFF]

Guys, debates about flight models belong in the Flight Model section of the forum, not in this discussion - even more so for planes that were released long ago.

[Kubert]

This, looks fixed. 

 

Today I started a new career in the P-47. During the hour and a half bombing mission, 181 km away, with an altitude set at 4500 meters, two long climbs, two steep descents, no Spitfire escort crashed. Five of the six of them abandoned us on the return trip due to lack of fuel, but I heard them landing at a nearby airfield. So no escort losses either due to collisions or fuel.  

 

Thanks for that.

 

If it was just a coincidence, and they started colliding again, I'll report it.