Are there any lefthanded players out there to use righthanded VKB MCG grip?

[dgiatr]

Hi, as the title says I am trying to find a righthanded grip that can be used from poor lefthanded people like me.

 

I am not interested in virpil constellation alpha prime or vkb scg kosmosima.

 

I am trying to build a Rhino vpforce ffb joystick so need a standalone grip.

 

So do you lefthanded  guys have any experience from righthanded standalone grips?

 

I am especially interested in this one

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/modern-combat-grip-mcg-socket-rev-b/

 

Thank you in advance!

Edited August 18, 2024 by dgiatr

[BOO]

I’m a leftie. Never used a left handed stick. Seems to make zero sense in a hotas set up as there are no right handed throttles to my knowledge commonly available.  Feels totally natural to me. Sticks and throttle buttons don’t require dexterity levels needed when writing it appears. 
 

I’ve used virpil mongoos for years without problem but their replacement for it ( flanker) is pricey, seems a tad less functional and is metal which may or may not be a plus point. Plenty seem happy with the standard, non prime Alpha. 
 

VKB seems nice but the debacle of trying to get hold of a gunfighter years ago put me off them. There’s additional stuff to do with a rhino when ordering for vkb as well I think, connector wise I understand. If those 4 ways are 4way plus push it’s looks to be a good option. 

[dgiatr]

2 hours ago, BOO said:

I’m a leftie. Never used a left handed stick. Seems to make zero sense in a hotas set up as there are no right handed throttles to my knowledge commonly available.  Feels totally natural to me. Sticks and throttle buttons don’t require dexterity levels needed when writing it appears. 
 

I’ve used virpil mongoos for years without problem but their replacement for it ( flanker) is pricey, seems a tad less functional and is metal which may or may not be a plus point. Plenty seem happy with the standard, non prime Alpha. 
 

VKB seems nice but the debacle of trying to get hold of a gunfighter years ago put me off them. There’s additional stuff to do with a rhino when ordering for vkb as well I think, connector wise I understand. If those 4 ways are 4way plus push it’s looks to be a good option. 

OK BOO,

thank you for your time!

[Aapje]

@dgiatr

 

As a lefty, I use a right-handed grip, but I'm fairly ambidextrous anyway (although more in the sense that I have poor skill with both hands).

 

But once you use a throttle as well, then both hands have buttons, hats and such to manipulate, so being a lefty just means that you have more dexterity with using the stuff on your throttle. That's why I suggested switching to a right-handed setup in the other thread, since you'll have many more options when it comes to a proper HOTAS-setup and you'll probably adapt quite well.

 

@BOO

 

The VKB grips have a different connector and require an adapter with passthrough. So you'll have a USB-cable coming out of the adapter.

 

As far as I can see now, Virpil is going to be the best grip for the Rhino, as soon as Propelor releases the new firmware that he is working on.

[BOO]

27 minutes ago, Aapje said:

 

 

@BOO

 

The VKB grips have a different connector and require an adapter with passthrough. So you'll have a USB-cable coming out of the adapter.

 

As far as I can see now, Virpil is going to be the best grip for the Rhino, as soon as Propelor releases the new firmware that he is working on.

 

If the Flanker alternative configuration allows for a 4 way + push on the thumb position I'd say its a no-brainer WHEN its available, if it doesnt its a consideration. The Alpha loses some of that 5 way functionality in favour of an Analog thumb stick which is less usefull if you already have their CM3 throttle.The VKB has a good rep for reliabilty and the right switches in the right place, if you can get one, and you dont mind the extra faff of the boxes and cables. 

 

Personally I think ill be going Virpil again for my Rhino. My old Mongoos Mk1 has served me well for 8 years with only a small issue on one 4 way which Virpil offered to sort immediately. 

[1Sascha]

Leftie here and I usually don't like having to adapt to right-handed stuff. I do use my mouse with my left hand for example and I also shoot guns and bows left-handed. That said: Since all the (flight-)sticks I've ever used were either ambidextrous or of the right-handed variety, I guess I've gotten used to it, over the years. I think I'd have a very hard time switching to a leftie-grip.

 

I've used MS SW FF2s in the past, then went with a VKB Gladiator Evo KG12 (very right handed grip), then to a Gunfighter Mk III MCG Pro and now I'm on the MCG Ultimate (both of which are *extremely* right handed grips).

 

As Boo pointed out: Especially if you're using these things as part of a HOTAS setup, going left-handed doesn't make a lot of sense. I *suppose* you could go with VKB's Gladiator Evo with the left-handed "premium" space grip:

 

... and one of their NXT throttle modules:

 

... or a combo of those modules, as they seem to be fairly ambidextrous (much more so than a WHT, Virpil CM3 or VKB STECS).

 

Personally, I'd go with a right-handed stick and just get used to it as it'll leave you with more options for both stick(s) and throttle(s) to choose from. Especially if you want to upgrade either of the two or both at some point in the future.

 

 

 

 

S.

[dgiatr]

30 minutes ago, 1Sascha said:

Leftie here and I usually don't like having to adapt to right-handed stuff. I do use my mouse with my left hand for example and I also shoot guns and bows left-handed. That said: Since all the (flight-)sticks I've ever used were either ambidextrous or of the right-handed variety, I guess I've gotten used to it, over the years. I think I'd have a very hard time switching to a leftie-grip.

 

I've used MS SW FF2s in the past, then went with a VKB Gladiator Evo KG12 (very right handed grip), then to a Gunfighter Mk III MCG Pro and now I'm on the MCG Ultimate (both of which are *extremely* right handed grips).

 

As Boo pointed out: Especially if you're using these things as part of a HOTAS setup, going left-handed doesn't make a lot of sense. I *suppose* you could go with VKB's Gladiator Evo with the left-handed "premium" space grip:

 

... and one of their NXT throttle modules:

 

... or a combo of those modules, as they seem to be fairly ambidextrous (much more so than a WHT, Virpil CM3 or VKB STECS).

 

Personally, I'd go with a right-handed stick and just get used to it as it'll leave you with more options for both stick(s) and throttle(s) to choose from. Especially if you want to upgrade either of the two or both at some point in the future.

 

 

 

 

S.

Thank you 1Sascha,

I finally ordered a virpil constellation alpha left handed grip to attach to a Rhino ffb base.

I hope to be happy with my choice...

[JG300_Egon]

Hi,

 

A theme that is not very often approached.

 

My humble experience :

 

I had a few hours in gliders, back then I could fly LH, but for the landings I had to switch hand to take the spoilers with my left hand, so not very precise... 😒

After that, I started flight sims as a left handed and got the Saitek Evo stick switchable RH / LH.

 

At some point, I wanted to change for something more serious with a HOTAS (Thrustmaster Cougar at the time) but back in 2004/2005 we didn't have many options for left handed people in flight sims. So I switched side with my Saitek and tested for 2/3 weeks to see if I could manage to fly like that before investing in a HOTAS.

I'm not ambidextrous but nevertheless it did pretty well and so since +/- 20 years.

So for those who struggle with the question, I would advise you to try to fly RH for 3/4 weeks and see if it's OK or not.

 

And by the way, it could be useful if you wanna fly IRL one day... 😉

 

 

@dgiatr : Good to see you found a solution suitable 🤙

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2024 by JG300_Egon

[1Sascha]

On 8/21/2024 at 12:40 PM, JG300_Egon said:

So for those who struggle with the question, I would advise you to try to fly RH for 3/4 weeks and see if it's OK or not.

 

I'm getting OT here, but:

 

My theory is that it's mostly a matter of practice/routine and I'm pretty sure with enough of it, most (perhaps all?) lefties can do it. Perhaps with someone like me who started in flight-sims in the mid 90s (God, I'm getting old), it's a little different. I'm pretty sure back then there simply were no flight-sticks available for left-handed folks. So it was either go right-handed or go home / use mouse and keyboard (*shudder*). Perhaps the CH Flight Stick (non-Fighter/F-16 variant) was ambidextrous, but I always hated the floppiness of those things... 😄

 

 

Still: I am convinced that if I switched to a left-handed stick now with well over 20 years of using joy-/flight-sticks with my right hand, I would suck something fierce. And the fact that I'm a leftie wouldn't help me because this is years and years of building up muscle-memory for my right arm and hand I would be throwing out the window.

 

It's perhaps a bit like how the feel in your legs/feet develops differently once you start driving (stick shift) cars. Even a seasoned driver will probably look like a fool when he tries to left-foot-brake for the first time. Doesn't matter how much feel for braking or for the gas you may have in your right leg, your left leg will initially only be good for stomping down hard on that clutch...

 

S.

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2024 by 1Sascha