[RELEASE] IL2WinWing V1.4

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 11/30/2024 at 5:53 PM, SKIMITAR said:

I see in the debugger that it is getting data from IL2 but the vibrations dont work. I think something is not going right in SimAppPro. Is it required to also have DCS installed?

No you shouldn't need DCS but I'm not 100% sure about that actually, I haven't tried it on a computer without DCS installed. Check that you have the default settings for the vibration motor in SimApp Pro. Also, running SRS is a known issue since that app takes solitary "ownership" of the socket where IL-2 sends it's telemetry data, but since you're getting the data that's not it in this particular case. Other than the settings in SimApp Pro and the lack of DCS I don't know what it can be, sorry.

[Irish]

Really enjoy the immersion this adds. But how do I get this to work alongside a bass shaker. My bass shaker is working through the SimHaptic app.

 

EDIT: I'll just add that SimHaptic requires that I add below to startup.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 1
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

Edited December 26, 2024 by Irish

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 12/26/2024 at 4:36 AM, Irish said:

Really enjoy the immersion this adds. But how do I get this to work alongside a bass shaker. My bass shaker is working through the SimHaptic app.

 

EDIT: I'll just add that SimHaptic requires that I add below to startup.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 1
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

I think you can add a second address/port for IL2WinWing, like this:

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
      addr = "127.0.0.1"
      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
      decimation = 2
      enable = true
      port = 29373
[END]

 

Then make sure that IL2WinWing uses port 4322 (in IL2WinWing.dll.config)

Edited January 2 by =NOSIG=ZenIT_SWE

[Irish]

"It's alive! It's alive!"

 

omg it worked thank you so much. Immersion successfully increased. 

[smee_ger_ac]

Thank you, for that great tool.
I have two questions.

 

1. The stall effect could be greater, is there in IL-2 or SimApp  any settings that can be done.
  In IL-2 the force is set to 100%

 

2. Can this be modified to work with War Thunder?

[ZenIT_SWE]

11 hours ago, [DBS]smee_ger_ac said:

Thank you, for that great tool.
I have two questions.

 

1. The stall effect could be greater, is there in IL-2 or SimApp  any settings that can be done.
  In IL-2 the force is set to 100%

 

2. Can this be modified to work with War Thunder?

Hi there!

 

Glad you like it. 

 

1. What my app does is to translate the telemetry data from IL-2 into data that makes SimAppPro think that you're flying the P-51 in DCS. So, if you want to adjust the response your only option is to create a custom profile for the "Dynamic vibration motor" or whatever they call it for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro. The user interface for this is among the worst I've seen so it's not that easy but if you give it some time you will be able to create more "aggressive" curves for the angle of attack etc.

 

2. In order to build a similar app for War Thunder that game there needs to be a way to get telemetry data from it. After a quick Google search it seems to be possible to get some data from that game as well so it's possible. I don't own the game but I suggest that reach out to WinWing and ask them to add support for it in SimAppPro.

Edited February 3 by =NOSIG=ZenIT_SWE

[[TDZ]Ternary]

I'm unable to get this to work, if I run the patched SRS alongside il2winwing on combat box it keeps me in the neutral lobby even when I spawn in an plane.

 

This is the entry I have in startup.cfg

 

Am I missing something obvious, SRS works on its own, as does il2winwing but when I run them *together*, il2winwing works but SRS never switches channel.

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
	addr = "127.0.0.1"
	decimation = 2
	enable = true
	port = 4322
[END]

 

[ZenIT_SWE]

2 hours ago, [TDZ]Ternary said:

I'm unable to get this to work, if I run the patched SRS alongside il2winwing on combat box it keeps me in the neutral lobby even when I spawn in an plane.

 

This is the entry I have in startup.cfg

 

Am I missing something obvious, SRS works on its own, as does il2winwing but when I run them *together*, il2winwing works but SRS never switches channel.

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
	addr = "127.0.0.1"
	decimation = 2
	enable = true
	port = 4322
[END]

 

Please try the following:

 

KEY = telemetrydevice]

      addr = "127.0.0.1"

      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"

      decimation = 2

      enable = true

      port = 29373

[END]

 

Just make sure that the port number (in this case 4322 or 29373) matches with what you have in the IL2WinWing config file (IL2WinWing.dll.config).

[[TDZ]Ternary]

That appears to have done it! - will test it properly later 🙈 (I would have sworn I tried that and about 30 other combinations) - even pulled the upstream SRS/installed VS and applied the code change from the issue you filed on their repo and missed that :D.

 

Many thanks and particulary for il2winwing itself - didn't even realise the stick *had* haptics (I should read the specs on things I buy more carefully) but having them is on il2 is fantastic :).

[J37_GCF]

Thank very much !!!! Works Great in Flying Circus Planes have tested it in about 4 planes both side so far and works excellent.

Only three questions. 

1. Is there a way i can select it to only add vibration when i go into stall speed and not when guns are firing ?

2. Is there a way to only have vibration on the stick and not on the throttles ?

3. A a very minor issue vibration works with plane spawn even when motor is stopped and only goes away when you gain a bit of speed, this is easily lived with.

Great work much appreciated !

[ZenIT_SWE]

34 minutes ago, J37_GCF said:

Thank very much !!!! Works Great in Flying Circus Planes have tested it in about 4 planes both side so far and works excellent.

Only three questions. 

1. Is there a way i can select it to only add vibration when i go into stall speed and not when guns are firing ?

2. Is there a way to only have vibration on the stick and not on the throttles ?

3. A a very minor issue vibration works with plane spawn even when motor is stopped and only goes away when you gain a bit of speed, this is easily lived with.

Great work much appreciated !

Hello!

 

1. The only way to accomplish this is to create a custom profile for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro and disable the vibrations for guns there. The UI for this is unfortunately quite complicated and unintuitive but it's absolutely doable. My application "tricks" SimAppPro to think that we're flying the P-51D in DCS, that's why you can adjust the behavior with custom profiles for that aircraft.

2. This can be done about the same way as in point 1. Create new empty profiles for left and right throttle handle (for the P-51)

3. To fix this I would have to a bit of digging in order to determine why it happens. My guess is that I don't receive info about the plane being respawn and just continue like it wasn't even shot down. I will try to find some time to look into it.

[J37_GCF]

Sorry for all the questions but which p51 ? i see three listed in smapppro

[ZenIT_SWE]

9 minutes ago, J37_GCF said:

Sorry for all the questions but which p51 ? i see three listed in smapppro

TF-51D

[J37_GCF]

13 hours ago, ZenIT_SWE said:

Hello!

 

1. The only way to accomplish this is to create a custom profile for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro and disable the vibrations for guns there. The UI for this is unfortunately quite complicated and unintuitive but it's absolutely doable. My application "tricks" SimAppPro to think that we're flying the P-51D in DCS, that's why you can adjust the behavior with custom profiles for that aircraft.

2. This can be done about the same way as in point 1. Create new empty profiles for left and right throttle handle (for the P-51)

3. To fix this I would have to a bit of digging in order to determine why it happens. My guess is that I don't receive info about the plane being respawn and just continue like it wasn't even shot down. I will try to find some time to look into it.

Hi thanks fixed 1 and 2 easy to do. dont worry about number 3 as i think its the low speed of plane causing the vibration effects as soon as a bit moving goes away.

great app works flawlessly , thank you so much !

[Sherman729]

Thanks for the amazing job!

Ive been spoiled so much, that I need moar: is there a way to get the vibration working on DCS with unsupported planes (MB-339, A4-EC, C101)?

[ZenIT_SWE]

11 hours ago, Sherman729 said:

Thanks for the amazing job!

Ive been spoiled so much, that I need moar: is there a way to get the vibration working on DCS with unsupported planes (MB-339, A4-EC, C101)?

I'm not sure, that would at the very least require modding of the SimApp Pro scripts which I'm not that keen on doing to be honest.

 

My suggestion is to contact WinWing and ask them to add support for those aircraft. Its most likely an easy thing for them to do.

[Irish]

Still a great mod. I was able to get this working along side both the bass shaker and the Moza ab9 ffb stick using the following lines. Thanks again my friend.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.255.255.255"
    addr1 = "127.255.255.255:29373"
        addr2 = "127.255.255.255:4322"
        decimation = 3
    enable = true
    port = 5678
[END]

[LR.CIACowboy]

I truly hope someone is still checking this thread. I purchased the WinWing Orion base, F16 with shaker flight grip and I am attempting to use it in IL 2. I have my buttons and keys programmed just fine, but for some reason, I cannot get this addon to work.

I have checked and double checked all files to ensure they are properly coded as per instructions...but no joy. I fly the Spitfire Mk IXE which was listed as a useable aircraft in an earlier post. I have attached my Startup.cfg file from IL2 as well as the DLL config from your addon. The Debug window shows cannon fire etc but no vibration.
Any help will be MUCH appreciated.

IL2WinWing.dll.txt startup.txt

Edited September 25 by LR.CIACowboy

[ZenIT_SWE]

6 hours ago, LR.CIACowboy said:

I truly hope someone is still checking this thread. I purchased the WinWing Orion base, F16 with shaker flight grip and I am attempting to use it in IL 2. I have my buttons and keys programmed just fine, but for some reason, I cannot get this addon to work.

I have checked and double checked all files to ensure they are properly coded as per instructions...but no joy. I fly the Spitfire Mk IXE which was listed as a useable aircraft in an earlier post. I have attached my Startup.cfg file from IL2 as well as the DLL config from your addon. The Debug window shows cannon fire etc but no vibration.
Any help will be MUCH appreciated.

IL2WinWing.dll.txt 930 B · 2 downloads startup.txt 2.52 kB · 1 download

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I have a couple of ideas that you can check:

• Have you messed around with the vibration settings for the DCS model TF-51D in SimAppPro? IL2WinWing translates the telemetry data from IL-2 so that SimAppPro thinks you're flying a TF-51D in DCS.
• I don't think this is it since you seem to get data from IL-2, but do you have a firewall that's blocking port 4322? Maybe test with a different telemetry port, like 29300 or something. Remember to change it in both files.

Do you use any other game like DCS, MSFS or X-Plane and get vibrations when playing those?

[LR.CIACowboy]

Thank you so much for the rapid response! 

So, I did not have DCS installed on my machine, therefore had no option to select the T51D profile...I did install it today and now have the profile selected...but still no joy on vibration.

The Debug window fills with information, so it is gettting the telemetry from IL2 but just not sending to SIMApp Pro I think... I am usually pretty good about digging through these types of issues and making them work...but this one has me stumped 😄 I promise you, if I get it working I will put a video on YouTube explaining how so the next guy doesn't have to deal with this 😄

As of right now, I am stumped. I really thought downloading DCS and selecting the T51D profile would solve the problem. I do not have a firewall blocking the port but I did test with different ports with same results.

I have not tried MSFS or DCS yet for the vibes 😄 I am very much addicted to IL2 but I shall give MSFS a shot and let you know...

I do have a SIMApp PRo question as well...I cannot seem to find a way to test vibration motors within the app, but there should be one...there is very limited video of image tutorials online for this app and the interface is horrible 😄 If you know where that button is or could possibly post a screenshot of it, that would be awesome!

Thank you!

 

[LR.CIACowboy]

Ok I have tested in MSFS and I do have vibration in that sim, provided I set a key profile AND a vibrating motor profile.
 

However, I cannot make this stick vibrate in IL 2 to save my life 😄 I have tried all port settings...the debug screen fills with information as soon as I start flying...however, in SIMApp Pro, the 2nd step in the Environment Check tab "Game Launching Phase" never turns green...it just stays grayed out.

I am thinking that somehow, IL2 is communicating perfectly with your app, but SIMApp Pro is not for some reason. Are there any config files I need to edit for SIMApp Pro? Or are the only ones those mentioned in this thread? Also, can you confirm what the telemetry port code would look like in both files? 

This is what I have in my Startup Config for IL2...
 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
      addr = "127.0.0.1"
      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
      decimation = 2
      enable = true
      port = 29373
[END] 

This is my Il2Winwing DLL file entry:

<IL2WinWing.Properties.Settings>
            <setting name="IL2TelemetryPort" serializeAs="String">
                <value>4322</value>
            </setting>
            <setting name="WWPort" serializeAs="String">
                <value>29373</value>
            </setting>

Edited September 26 by LR.CIACowboy

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 9/25/2025 at 10:27 PM, LR.CIACowboy said:

Ok I have tested in MSFS and I do have vibration in that sim, provided I set a key profile AND a vibrating motor profile.
 

However, I cannot make this stick vibrate in IL 2 to save my life 😄 I have tried all port settings...the debug screen fills with information as soon as I start flying...however, in SIMApp Pro, the 2nd step in the Environment Check tab "Game Launching Phase" never turns green...it just stays grayed out.

I am thinking that somehow, IL2 is communicating perfectly with your app, but SIMApp Pro is not for some reason. Are there any config files I need to edit for SIMApp Pro? Or are the only ones those mentioned in this thread? Also, can you confirm what the telemetry port code would look like in both files? 

This is what I have in my Startup Config for IL2...
 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
      addr = "127.0.0.1"
      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
      decimation = 2
      enable = true
      port = 29373
[END] 

This is my Il2Winwing DLL file entry:

<IL2WinWing.Properties.Settings>
            <setting name="IL2TelemetryPort" serializeAs="String">
                <value>4322</value>
            </setting>
            <setting name="WWPort" serializeAs="String">
                <value>29373</value>
            </setting>

Hello

I'm sorry to hear that it still doesn't work. I haven't played IL-2 or any other flight sim for a long time now so maybe WinWing have made some changes that rendered IL2WinWing unusable. I would have thought that more people would be writing here if that where the case but I will install IL-2 and have a go at it.

 

I just want to double check one thing though. You uploaded the file "startup.txt", but I assume that you renamed it just to be able to post it here and that you have the same content in a "setup.cfg"?

[LR.CIACowboy]

I did rename the file, yes. It is called startup.cfg in the IL2 installation directory. I am sorry to have put you to so much trouble. I wish IL2 would be supported by WinWing...

 

Thank you for being so willing to help. If we sort it out, I will make a video explaining it and make sure it is uploaded in the WinWing community for others.

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 9/27/2025 at 1:36 PM, LR.CIACowboy said:

I did rename the file, yes. It is called startup.cfg in the IL2 installation directory. I am sorry to have put you to so much trouble. I wish IL2 would be supported by WinWing...

 

Thank you for being so willing to help. If we sort it out, I will make a video explaining it and make sure it is uploaded in the WinWing community for others.

Oh, while I was waiting for the IL-2 update to download and install I had a look at my config files as well as the SimAppPro files for DCS and realized something. I think you have the wrong port number for SimAppPro! I have my WWPort set to 16536 which is the port used by SimAppPro when connecting to DCS, you have 29373 which would explain why the data stops at IL2WinWin and doesn't reach SimAppPro.

 

I launched IL-2 and it worked on my end so I'd say it's the WWPort, change that to 16536 and you should be good to go.

Edited September 28 by ZenIT_SWE

[LR.CIACowboy]

I will give that a shot today! Thank you

 

** Changed WWPort in IL2winwing file to 16536. Same result...the debug picks up information from the SIM but it does not send to SIMApp Pro.... I also noticed in the environment check area of SIMApp Pro that it never turns green for step 2, which is the game launch...so the app doesnt see IL2 launch.

Which config files in SIMApp Pro control the connection ports? I will try to find those and see if maybe for some reason my default ports are different.

*** EDIT *** 

I uninstalled SIMApp Pro and reinstalled...now I have action in the sim using the ports you defined above... SWEEET! In case anyone else asks, SIMApp Pro only turns the 1st phase of the environment check tab green for IL2 (Program Initialization.)

So, my next question is, when using IL2 SRS it seems I will need to define a secondary port somewhere? Would you be willing to share the telemetry segment of your Startup.CFG file and also the IL2WW CFG file so I can see exactly how you have your ports listed? 

Thank you so much for your help!

Edited September 28 by LR.CIACowboy

[ZenIT_SWE]

1 hour ago, LR.CIACowboy said:

I will give that a shot today! Thank you

 

** Changed WWPort in IL2winwing file to 16536. Same result...the debug picks up information from the SIM but it does not send to SIMApp Pro.... I also noticed in the environment check area of SIMApp Pro that it never turns green for step 2, which is the game launch...so the app doesnt see IL2 launch.

Which config files in SIMApp Pro control the connection ports? I will try to find those and see if maybe for some reason my default ports are different.

*** EDIT *** 

I uninstalled SIMApp Pro and reinstalled...now I have action in the sim using the ports you defined above... SWEEET! In case anyone else asks, SIMApp Pro only turns the 1st phase of the environment check tab green for IL2 (Program Initialization.)

So, my next question is, when using IL2 SRS it seems I will need to define a secondary port somewhere? Would you be willing to share the telemetry segment of your Startup.CFG file and also the IL2WW CFG file so I can see exactly how you have your ports listed? 

Thank you so much for your help!

You can have IL-2 send telemetry data on at least three ports:

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.255.255.255"
    addr1 = "127.255.255.255:29373"
        addr2 = "127.255.255.255:4322"
        decimation = 3
    enable = true
    port = 5678
[END]

 

My setup.cfg:

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

If I remember correctly SRS uses 29373

[LR.CIACowboy]

OK, haptic feed back works...or IL2SRS works 😄

I cannot seem to win 😄

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

I put this in my Startup.cfg for IL2...if I boot up SRS first it connects and functions as it should...the moment I open IL2 WinWing it stops connecting.

In the I2WW DLL CFG file I have port 4322 set as com port with IL2. Should I change that to 29373?

[ZenIT_SWE]

8 hours ago, LR.CIACowboy said:

OK, haptic feed back works...or IL2SRS works 😄

I cannot seem to win 😄

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

I put this in my Startup.cfg for IL2...if I boot up SRS first it connects and functions as it should...the moment I open IL2 WinWing it stops connecting.

In the I2WW DLL CFG file I have port 4322 set as com port with IL2. Should I change that to 29373?

I might have led you down the wrong road here. According to this the correct port for SRS is in fact 4322, hence you need to use a different port for IL2WinWing. Keep the setup.cfg as it is now and use 29737 for the telemetry port in IL2WinWing (and 16536 for WWPort). As I mentioned it has been a long time since I actually played IL-2 and used SRS and my app so I have forgotten all the details, sorry for that.

[LR.CIACowboy]

17 hours ago, ZenIT_SWE said:

I might have led you down the wrong road here. According to this the correct port for SRS is in fact 4322, hence you need to use a different port for IL2WinWing. Keep the setup.cfg as it is now and use 29737 for the telemetry port in IL2WinWing (and 16536 for WWPort). As I mentioned it has been a long time since I actually played IL-2 and used SRS and my app so I have forgotten all the details, sorry for that.

That got it! Thank you so much!