Brief Room Episode 2: 2023 In Review, Plans For 2024, A Glimpse At The Upcoming Title

[Avimimus]

9 minutes ago, R7-S276 said:

British with Fairey Albacore, Fairey Swordfish, Grumman Martlet vs. Vichy MS406 and Potez63… 

 

Ah, okay. I think the South African Airforce had Ju-86Z bombers, and used them for naval patrols in the area - but the squadrons involved in the actual invasion were re-equipped for that purpose.

 

P.S. Wait for someone to panic over the developers potentially abandoning their current plans and/or never doing the PTO because they overhear us talking about this admittedly fascinating theatre!

[Koziolek]

3 hours ago, MajorMagee said:

Sadly for those of us hoping for more playable tanks, the IS-2 was barely (only one Chinese Regiment of 20 vehicles) deployed in Korea, and never came close to seeing any combat there. Unless we're getting something in 1944/45, what we saw is most likely just an AI shell to be deployed as a ground target in Korea. If they showed us the T34/85 that was actually used in combat by the North Koreans, it might have better supported the Korea argument.

 

 

Who says IS-2 is for Korea module? Maybe it is just a collector vehicle for TC and we assume too much

44 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Um….is there ever going to be an Episode 3?

Nope, the series was dropped due to low audience ratings. But there is still a small chance it will be picked up by SYFY in the future

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

2 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

They are going to portray a region in a war, and no war is 'romantic'... you can bet it's just a translation error, so you budding Jane Austin's can relax...

 

Victory Day over Germany in WW2 is a big deal in Russia to my limited knowledge.   Highly romanticized you could say..?   Korea?  Not exactly a tropical paradise.   Winters quite brutal.

[kestrel79]

Let's say for fun hypothetically they give us a flyable B-29 in a couple years. Would it be less modeling work than say a B-17 or B-24 bomber because it has less gunner stations to model? Didn't a B-29 have a tailgunner, and 2 guys operating the remote guns, then a pilot/copilot in the cockpit, and a bombardier? So less gunner stations than an early war 4 engine heavy, maybe it's still possible

[MajorMagee]

56 minutes ago, CountZero said:

from video there was shown B-29, F4U, Il-10 and Yak-9P, where could they all be flown together, Spain 1930s, Egypt 55, Norway 1942 ? ?

 

 

And how many Ferdinands were in Kursk ?

IS-2 is most wonted tank, reason to show it. Maybe make ppl think its next collector one, or its Burma or France 40s, no one could know from info we get

At least the Ferdinand saw combat at Kursk. I agree, both the IS-2 and T34/85 are badly wanted to support 1944/45 on the Eastern Front. The T-34/85 would have an actual role to play in Korea as well so it would be more valid to spend the time to develop that versus the IS-2 if all we're getting is Korea.

[Pict]

7 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Let's say for fun hypothetically they give us a flyable B-29 in a couple years. Would it be less modeling work than say a B-17 or B-24 bomber because it has less gunner stations to model? Didn't a B-29 have a tailgunner, and 2 guys operating the remote guns, then a pilot/copilot in the cockpit, and a bombardier? So less gunner stations than an early war 4 engine heavy, maybe it's still possible

 

This thought occured to me too. Add to that that the forward gunner was in a sort of blister like a navigators dome, so we could imagine that there would be less to model in there than your average gunner pit.

Edited January 12, 2024 by Pict
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[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Still want to know if this next iteration will include carriers.   Pretty important to MOST WW2 pacific battles, and Korea. 

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Just curious,   you think the devs were giving us a sneak peak or just careless?

For the record, not saying it's NOT Korea.  Just saying I don't think we can say with any certainty what it is..

nothing shown in video was by neglect or mistake, it was purpusly there.

 

why no clear anouncment now, well most ppl will not conect the dots from this video, so to most its mistery what they plan next. And few on forum knowing or not means nothing to them in marketing part as your here already every week or day and will buy anything they put out. Looks like ther aim is to expand their ww1/ww2 base , so big anouncment will be when they are fully ready and will show migs and sabers in hops to take big jet player base, and props are there to keep ww2 guys interested for a wile. 

 

50 minutes ago, MajorMagee said:

At least the Ferdinand saw combat at Kursk. I agree, both the IS-2 and T34/85 are badly wanted to support 1944/45 on the Eastern Front. The T-34/85 would have an actual role to play in Korea as well so it would be more valid to spend the time to develop that versus the IS-2 if all we're getting is Korea.

to me is-2 purpuse and place in video is to ignight hops of more collector tanks for GB.

 

next project as they call it, looks like korea and is to be separate game from this one so no mather what tank was there it will not be important for tank crew as it would not be compatible

Edited January 12, 2024 by CountZero

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

Now when we get the next video, it's all about Q&A (but no questions on what the next project is) and so the farce continues, 

 

How about you just wait for the Q&A video before panning it? There was already quite a bit of info about the new project released in the first video, which I see you have noticed, so just just show some patience and understand the marketing team has perfectly valid reasons for releasing info in the time and manner they choose.

 

2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

So we are to believe that despite thier comments,  and things they learned the hard way, they would either intentionally release images pointing to "what's next", or they are just really careless?   Doesn't seem likely to me.

 

I've already mentioned that the release of the B-29 image was not careless. Anything you guys are seeing here has been officially approved by those in charge.

[Trooper117]

I have got patience... they can show the next video in 2 months time for all I care. The farce is, that we all know what the next project is, but it won't be announced until Spring.

That means for the people hoping against hope that it will be something else, will continue to throw bones out looking at all eventualities but the one that's really coming.

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

 

Here in fairyland, we are wondering if all the belief that Korea is guaranteed,  is based on a screen shot of a skeletal B29, or if there is perhaps some more convincing evidence that we somehow missed.  If so, please share what that evidence is.  Thank you. 

 

Ps.. anyone care to explain the devs  "romantic" comment?  Totally do not get what that's about.   From my admittedly uninformed grasp of Russian history,  too me that translates to thier victory over Germany in WW2.  An event they romanticize and celebrate to this day.

 

It's Korea - give it up. 

 

 

2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Still want to know if this next iteration will include carriers.   Pretty important to MOST WW2 pacific battles, and Korea. 

 

Well they are important to the carrier battles, which are short, and few.

The protracted battles that decided the war were fought from land.

Solomons, New Guinea 

 

Do you think it's likely that they're going to take up a radical engine upgrade, and carrier tech as well for this next release?

Not plausible my friend.

When taking these things on, you have to think "chewable morsels"

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, kestrel79 said:

Let's say for fun hypothetically they give us a flyable B-29 in a couple years. Would it be less modeling work than say a B-17 or B-24 bomber because it has less gunner stations to model? Didn't a B-29 have a tailgunner, and 2 guys operating the remote guns, then a pilot/copilot in the cockpit, and a bombardier? So less gunner stations than an early war 4 engine heavy, maybe it's still possible

 

1 hour ago, Pict said:

 

This thought occured to me too. Add to that that the forward gunner was in a sort of blister like a navigators dome, so we could imagine that there would be less to model in there than your average gunner pit.

 

Yeah, it's crossed my mind too. The problem they seemed to have with the B25 was actually finding reliable info to model a contemporary turret plus the effort involved to produce what would in effect be a second cockpit and the coding required to give us a powered turret.

The B29 actually strikes me as a four engined version of a He-111. Pilot behind glass along with bomb aimer position and gunner positions handling pivoting machine guns.

If they can produce a highly complex K14 gyro gun sight I would have thought the gun laying sight of the B29 might not be too difficult. 

We already have an a.i. controlled powered turret in the B25 to link it to.

 

A flyable B29 would certainly help with the wow factor on any new release.

Also, the Soviets themselves built around 750 almost exact replicas in the form of the Tu 4 no? This would suggest reference material shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[Gambit21]

1 minute ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Also, the Soviets themselves built around 750 almost exact replicas in the form of the Tu 4 no? This would suggest reference material shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

Really...I had no idea. 

[Trooper117]

There you go...

 

 

[Gambit21]

@352nd_Wheels Just posted this elsewhere, now I'm re-posting here...since it's apropos to the upcoming title.

Thanks Wheels!!

 

 

 

Sorry Mitchell.

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

6 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

@352nd_Wheels Just posted this elsewhere, now I'm re-posting here...since it's apropos to the upcoming title.

Thanks Wheels!!

 

 

 

 

Sorry Mitchell.

No need to apologize mate.   Never said it was not to be Korea.   Only said can't tell based upon official information.   I still believe that despite your frequent suggestions otherwise. 

Edited January 12, 2024 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[jollyjack]

howzabout these ...

 

 

[Gambit21]

1 minute ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

No need to apologize mate.   Never said it was not to be Korea.   Only said can't tell based upon official information.   I still believe that despite your frequent suggestions otherwise. 

 

I'm just pulling your chain. We're on the same 'want' page.

 

[Trooper117]

Yep, helicopters are needed, but we probably won't see them... maybe a DLC?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

How about you just wait for the Q&A video before panning it? There was already quite a bit of info about the new project released in the first video, which I see you have noticed, so just just show some patience and understand the marketing team has perfectly valid reasons for releasing info in the time and manner they choose.

 

 

I've already mentioned that the release of the B-29 image was not careless. Anything you guys are seeing here has been officially approved by those in charge.

@LukeFF..So they won't comment officially,  but they will release pictures of content officially in development for the next module.?  Is that your official comment?

 

Also...please enlighten us what the "romantic" comment from the devs was all about?

[Gambit21]

50 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Also...please enlighten us what the "romantic" comment from the devs was all about?

 

Keep in mind they're Russian, it could easily be a mistranslation, improperly used word etc. I wouldn't get too hung up on it.

Forest for the trees, all that.  

 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Wish comments would not be merged when replying to two different people..

 

45 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Keep in mind they're Russian, it could easily be a mistranslation, improperly used word etc. I wouldn't get too hung up on it.

Forest for the trees, all that.  

 

Understand,  just hard to image that means anything except Russian victory over Germany in WW2. 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

45 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Keep in mind they're Russian, it could easily be a mistranslation, improperly used word etc. I wouldn't get too hung up on it.

Forest for the trees, all that.  

 

Was looking for comment from @LukeFF

[Gambit21]

1 minute ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Was looking for comment from @LukeFF

 

What do you expect Luke to say? ?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Umm. Maybe answer the question??

[BraveSirRobin]

You can look at any one thing in that video and say “that could be battle of not Korea.”  The problem is that you can’t look at everything in the video combined and say that it isn’t Korea.  Because it’s Korea.

[Gambit21]

1 minute ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Umm. Maybe answer the question??

 

To your satisfaction? About them using the world Romance? lol 

Just now, BraveSirRobin said:

You can look at any one thing in that video and say “that could be battle of not Korea.”  The problem is that you can’t look at everything in the video combined and say that it isn’t Korea.  Because it’s Korea.

 

☝️

[BraveSirRobin]

2 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Umm. Maybe answer the question??

Luke doesn’t speak Russian.  And the “romantic “ thing is pretty obviously a translation issue.

[LukeFF]

47 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

@LukeFF..So they won't comment officially,  but they will release pictures of content officially in development for the next module.?  Is that your official comment?

 

Also...please enlighten us what the "romantic" comment from the devs was all about?

 

Well, you've heard from Han yourself elsewhere here that they aren't going to show something that they are unsure will make it into a public release. 

 

As for the "romantic" comment - no idea, sorry. Not everything is easily translated from one language to another. 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

4 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

Well, you've heard from Han yourself elsewhere here that they aren't going to show something that they are unsure will make it into a public release. 

 

As for the "romantic" comment - no idea, sorry. Not everything is easily translated from one language to another. 

 

Ok.  Thank you.  So based on that.   It is official.    As per LukeFF 

[Ribbon]

1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said:

Luke doesn’t speak Russian.  And the “romantic “ thing is pretty obviously a translation issue.

 

Maybe they're developing russian Tinder app....hot milf 3NM from you!

 

Joke aside coming from Slavic language yes it cpuld be translation issue and could refer to "sympathetic".....but i doubt, probably it is aimed as and with a reason but we can't connect the puzzle

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

2 minutes ago, CountZero said:

What makes you sure thats LukeFF answering, it dosent seam like his way of typing, i mean it could be LukeFF planty things point to it its him, but why it could not be some one els.

 

Lets ask for official answer , just to be sure thats him.

No necessary.   Luke has confirmed it's Korea.   

[Gambit21]

26 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

No necessary.   Luke has confirmed that Gambit and Trooper and others were correct all along and I should have listened...it's Korea.   

 

Fixed it for you.

 

 

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[LukeFF]

Alright, this topic is being locked until I and the mods figure out what to do with it.

[LuftManu]

 

Hello! Dear fellow forum members:
 

I would like to make a comment that I would like all of us to read.

These last few days have been quite problematic, more so than we would all expect.
 

A forum is composed of many people, with different opinions and the most normal (and healthy) are discussions of all kinds that help us learn more.
 

Sometimes it is inevitable that there are problems, after all this kind of things always happen when there are groups with many people.
 

But there are lines that should not be crossed, such as insulting others or disrespecting them in any way. I know that this is our hobby and hobbies are a lot of "heart" so it is inevitable not to feel the passion in the discussions.
 

I speak to you today not only as a moderator, but as a member. We cannot act like this, nor should we act like this. We have wanted to give free rein to people's imagination because of the video topic, but in the end it has led to a lot of off-topic and ammunition to attack each other, how is that possible? Are we not adults? maybe this message is a waste of time, but I think it is necessary to write it.
 

Think twice before writing, no one is your enemy here. We all come here to enjoy our hobby, to have a good time. Other people, more respectful came to show their ideas and discuss in a nice way. A big salute to them.

Let's try to make the forum a nice place for all its members. I know that people come here to enjoy and I am sure all of us want to have a great time. 
 

Thank you for your time, let's keep the fun going.

Kind regards,

 

[Avimimus]

I agree!

 

It is fine to discuss the product and the merits of different ideas. It is fine to provide constructive criticism regarding the sim.

 

However, if people start to criticise each other, or even become impolite - the impolite posts may disappear (even if the posts are technically within the rules).

 

None of us need flame wars. We're here to discuss the sim - not to fight amongst ourselves.

[MiGCap]

Perhaps one important reason for Korea is the growing Chinese sim market? ? At least it seems so if You look at DCS.

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

However, if people start to criticise each other, or even become impolite - the impolite posts may disappear (even if the posts are technically within the rules).

That makes no sense whatsoever. What on earth is an ‘impolite post’? That’s purely subjective. If it’s within the rules it’s within the rules.

Traffic on this forum has fallen off in recent months because no news is no news and over zealous moderation has left many people feeling like they’ve been treated ‘impolitely’ and therefore they can’t be arsed to post.

 

Perhaps ‘politeness’ starts at home? If members posts are going to mysteriously disappear perhaps it might be polite to let them know why?

 

Meanwhile…..

 

44 minutes ago, MiGCap said:

Perhaps one important reason for Korea is the growing Chinese sim market? ? At least it seems so if You look at DCS.

I’m not sure why Korea would specifically appeal to a Chinese market? Perhaps they’re making it because they want to and they feel they can do it well.

Not sure what if anything DCS has done about a Korean conflict. They have produced one airframe that took part in the ‘50 to ‘53 conflict and…..that’s it.

 

Edit; please don’t feel I’m being impolite MigCap?

Edited January 14, 2024 by DD_Arthur

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said:

That makes no sense whatsoever. What on earth is an ‘impolite post’? That’s purely subjective. If it’s within the rules it’s within the rules.

Yeah - slippery slope.

Oops - I hope that wasn’t impolite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Avimimus]

If you want to discuss moderation - you can always send a direct message to one of the moderators (or to the community manager, LukeFF). But please remember that discussion of moderation on the open forums is a violation of the forum rules (which have been in place for 12 years). There are good reasons for this.

 

As for the concern - Usually it is possible for adults to write something in a way which doesn't involve insulting other people or trolling them. It honestly, isn't that hard. If a post disappears for being excessively impolite - I'd be happy to discuss the post with the original author and help edit it to be a bit less impolite. Then the post can go up again...

 

I don't we're asking much when we respectfully and politely request that people try to be respectful and nice towards each other.