What is the next collectors aircraft you will buy?

[Docholiday]

Still hoping for a Beaufighter 😉 (but not much hope 🤣)

 

... but  they were used on EVERY war theather the Brits or Commonwealth troops fought during  THE WHOLE War ! ...

... and It has " only"   2 Cockpits  (less Work for 3D Modelers and Programmers than f.ex a B25G 🫣

 

Cheers

 

Doc

Edited July 27 by Docholiday

[Jackfraser24]

20 hours ago, Docholiday said:

Still hoping for a Beaufighter 😉 (but not much hope 🤣)

 

... but  they were used on EVERY war theather the Brits or Commonwealth troops fought during  THE WHOLE War ! ...

... and It has " only"   2 Cockpits  (less Work for 3D Modelers and Programmers than f.ex a B25G 🫣

 

Cheers

 

Doc

I'm hoping for a Beaufighter as well. I think this game needs them. Heck, even the kill-board in the Fw-190 D-9 says Beaufighter on it. 

[Enceladus828]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:48 AM, Docholiday said:

Still hoping for a Beaufighter 😉 (but not much hope 🤣)

 

... but  they were used on EVERY war theather the Brits or Commonwealth troops fought during  THE WHOLE War ! ...

... and It has " only"   2 Cockpits  (less Work for 3D Modelers and Programmers than f.ex a B25G 🫣

 

Cheers

 

Doc

I doubt it, sorry. If we’re going to get an entirely new WW2 plane then it will be the Finnish fighters that team plans to bring over.

[ITAF_Rani]

On 7/27/2025 at 9:48 AM, Docholiday said:

Still hoping for a Beaufighter 😉 (but not much hope 🤣)

 

... but  they were used on EVERY war theather the Brits or Commonwealth troops fought during  THE WHOLE War ! ...

... and It has " only"   2 Cockpits  (less Work for 3D Modelers and Programmers than f.ex a B25G 🫣

 

Cheers

 

Doc

Beaufighter...than we need Med !!

[jollyjack]

If Med a Catalina!

[Jackfraser24]

22 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Beaufighter...than we need Med !!

I would love that, but I think Enceladus is right. I think we will most likely be getting a Finnish aircraft pack, which I would be happy to buy myself. 

[chris455]

Hello Friends,

I've been away from the forums for awhile. I am getting ready to retire from work soon, so that will mean a bit more spare time on my hands. I hope to budget as much time as I can to the virtual flying pursuits-

That being said-

It only just dawned on me that with all the 109 and other variants we see in our game, why no P-39Q??? I recall reading at least one Soviet ace claiming it was the best fighter he ever flew. Certainly it saw action all over the East. Why don't we yet have one? And might we ever get one??? (fingers crossed).

My best wishes to all, the flight sim genre has never looked brighter than it does now!!!

Chris

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[MDzmitry]

1 час назад, chris455 сказал:

why no P-39Q??? I recall reading at least one Soviet ace claiming it was the best fighter he ever flew. Certainly it saw action all over the East. Why don't we yet have one? And might we ever get one??? (fingers crossed).

Currently a similar loadout to Soviet P-39Q's can be put together by getting rid of wing machine guns and installing a late engine upgrade. It makes sense since most Q's that got to the USSR were stripped of their wing armament.

 

P-39s didn't really see major improvements in terms of engines (unlike aforementioned 109s or Spitfires), and the letters had more to do with production series, different in smaller aspects like ventilation holes or fuel tank volume. So unless you're willing to look up whether there was or wasn't a side window in the front or what kind of armoured headrest was installed, you'll hardly see any difference.

 

Now, what I'd love to see in P-39s is more late-war camouflages (or at least basic ones with different kinds of stars: red with white outline in a blue circle and purely red in a white circle).

That, and ideally a slight overhaul to the 30-37mm damage. My monkey brain wants to feel gratified for landing a hit with that potato launcher.

[Kubert]

Collector planes are always connected to one of the existing maps. Currently, the most late war map of eastern front is Kuban. Career there ends in early October 1943. If P-39Q started to fly later, than this is the answer. There is no map for P-39Q for now. Maybe once when Odessa and Leningrad will be released....

[MDzmitry]

@chris455 sorry to bother you with 2 messages in a row, but here's a photo of Rechkalov in the cockpit of his P-39Q-15BE in Poland at the end of 1944.

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One can at least see the presence of the port side window clearly, so here's that.
And here's Sukhov's "white 50" filmed in ~1945, since the film the frame's from shows P-39s taking off from the "Berlin - Breslau" Autobahn (with a FAB-100 bomb for ground attack). You can see the absence of wing-mounted .50cal machineguns, of which there are more examples floating online, but this one's the first to come to my mind.

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[David_4555]

You know what would be an useful collector's plane?

Bf-109G-6 (early) with Erla Haube canopy 

Ideally it would be a free update for the existing G-6 collector but a separate plane works too

Repeat after me: there can never be too many 109's!

I know it's been asked for before and refused, but one can hope... Would be specifically useful for the Leningrad campaign 

 

Spoiler

 

[Ghost666]

3 hours ago, David_4555 said:

Repeat after me: there can never be too many 109's!

there can never be too many 109's!

 

there can never be too many 109's!

 

there can never be too many 109's!

 

   

[Enceladus828]

Bf-110F-2, Pe-3, P-39Q and Hurricane Mk.I

[paul_smeyers]

Beaufigther is or should be a nice addition !

[Jackfraser24]

13 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

Bf-110F-2, Pe-3, P-39Q and Hurricane Mk.I

I hear that the Bf-110 F-2 and Pe-3bis has been requested fora long time. Would be good to see such aircraft for the game.

 

Other aircraft I would like to see for the Eastern Front are the A-20G, IL-4, Pe-2 Series 359 (Model 1944), SB-2, Su-2 and the Yak-9M. All were prominant Soviet Air Force aircraft (for their time) in terms of number of units and number of sorties carried out, and it would fill in a number of gaps in Pilot Career.  

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[Jackfraser24]

On 8/6/2025 at 5:44 AM, paul_smeyers said:

Beaufigther is or should be a nice addition !

What model would you like to see in particular?

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

Bf 109 G10. 

P63 King Kobra. 

Fw190 A9. 

[Jackfraser24]

On 8/10/2025 at 5:21 PM, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

Bf 109 G10. 

P63 King Kobra. 

Fw190 A9. 

I don't think the P-63 would be a good idea to do because the Americans instructed the Soviets not to use them until Manchuria. Though I guess they did use them anyway, but even if they did wouldn't the Soviets have destroyed all records of all the sorties flown by the P-63 King Cobra?

[Trooper117]

I think it was shall we say 'frowned upon' for any Russian pilots to say anything positive about lend lease aircraft...

[Jackfraser24]

8 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

I think it was shall we say 'frowned upon' for any Russian pilots to say anything positive about lend lease aircraft...

Was it? Now that I think about it, it would make sense for propaganda purposes.

[Alexmarine]

Gordon and Komissarov in their most authoritative work on the P-39 and P-63 in Soviet service found no evidence of the use of the P-63 against the Germans, they note that any notion of it’s use in that theatre seems to have been generated by discussions on internet forums with no real evidence shown for it, while there is ample evidence of their introduction and use in the regiments employed in the Far East

 

I would prefer a late Yak-9M or Yak-9U in any case (along with early war Ju-87B-2 and SB-2), thanks 

[Docholiday]

On 8/9/2025 at 2:32 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

What model would you like to see in particular?

VIC or  better TFX

 

Cheers

 

Doc

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

He112

[Bell]

All I want is He 112,both open cockpit and closed cockpit.I dare not expect He 100.

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[MDzmitry]

25.08.2025 в 17:23, Trooper117 сказал:

I think it was shall we say 'frowned upon' for any Russian pilots to say anything positive about lend lease aircraft...

Not sure about Spitfires, since there's a bit of a discrepancy between how 57th GIAP performed and how the plane's been described colloquially (slow, unreliable, uncomfortable weaponry, etc.). And even here I'd argue that the bad reputation has more to do with poor logistics (worn-out engines, lack of spare parts, etc.) rather than any "propaganda purpose".

But P-39s got a nice reputation from all I've seen and read personally, and P-40 is considered an "ol' reliable" for it's ruggedness.

Similar thing goes for the bombers, most of them were considered more than adequate and capable (A-20, B-25 to name a couple).

 

The only purely negative experience of a Western aircraft in the East is the Hurricane. An example of "too little too late". Not counting the American fighters that the Soviets simply didn't put into frontline action (P-51, P-47).

[MDzmitry]

In general pilots tended to prefer the aircraft they personally flew: a Yak pilot Ivan Kozhemyako called P-39s "flying irons", Pokryshkin after a Cobra found Yak-3's armament to be "inadequate". Lavochkin pilots swore by M-82's reliability and sturdiness, while Yak-9U was favoured by the few who flew it for its power. 

Same goes for the Western front, as Pierre Clostermann describes pilots arguing which one was a better fighter between the Spitfire and the Tempest. And neither party was willing to give up on their pick's advantages (be it agility or speed).

 

I think Georgy Zakharov said it best: 

"The attitude to an airplane is always very subjective. Therefore, it will not be surprising if many of my friends, former fighter pilots, find my assessment of the Yak-3 too high. The pilots of the 139th Guards Regiment, who flew Yak-9U airplanes at that time, recognized the advantages of the Yak-3, but did not consider them absolute. In any case, many found that the powerful Yak-9U engine and its cannon were worth the lightness and maneuverability of the Yak-3. Well, patriots of the Lavochkin, especially its latest modifications - the La-7 and La-9 - will never agree that the Lavochkin was inferior to the Yak in any way. It is all about the personal attachments of the pilot, sometimes even the character of the pilot himself."

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G.N. Zakharov in the cockpit of his Yak-3

 

[Aapje]

5 hours ago, MDzmitry said:

And even here I'd argue that the bad reputation has more to do with poor logistics (worn-out engines, lack of spare parts, etc.) rather than any "propaganda purpose".

 

It's pretty common for military people to have a poor opinion of equipment because they used worn out equipment that was not replaced/repaired in time, so it performed poorly, even though earlier cohorts that used the equipment when it was still in good shape, were very happy with it.

[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

 

It's pretty common for military people to have a poor opinion of equipment because they used worn out equipment that was not replaced/repaired in time, so it performed poorly, even though earlier cohorts that used the equipment when it was still in good shape, were very happy with it.

Fair point.