TF6 Typhoon skins 02. The second lot of update screenshots.

[major_setback]

TF6 Typhoon skins 02.
Here are the second lot of update screenshots. Please view all of the screenshots on this thread:

 

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37496&p=392234&viewfull=1#post392234

 

Examples:

 

 

 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

On 9/29/2023 at 1:17 PM, major_setback said:

TF6 Typhoon skins 02.
Here are the second lot of update screenshots.

 

 

Please Setback (or Buzzsaw maybe, or anyone of TFS), would you kindly tell what version of SpeedTree is visible on the above screenshots? Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

[Mtnbiker1998]

These are some good looking skins, still a mystery why they chose not to use any of them for the announcement trailer...

[major_setback]

2 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Please Setback (or Buzzsaw maybe, or anyone of TFS), would you kindly tell what version of SpeedTree is visible on the above screenshots? Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

 

I'm not 100 percent certain, but I don't think any SpeedTree trees or vegetation/grass are shown in the screenshots I took. I think there may be some replacement of existing vegetation in prior preparation to the implementation of SpeedTree, but no SpeedTree textures themselves. (I say this because the hedgerows look like they may have changed a little, to a differing type of hedge, to eventually be replaced by new SpeedTree variants). I don't know for certain though, as I don't work on Speedtree at all.

Also, on my screenshots of Dover (in 'Typhoon screenshots part 2):  I have a very weak laptop, so those images are not showing the full quality that the game is capable of.

The clouds are TrueSky in all of the screenshots (in my Typhoon screenshot updates), though remember that these are old screenshots and the quality of in-game TrueSky clouds has improved since they were taken in January 2023.  Also, in some of the screenshots I turned the clouds option to 'clear sky' so you won't see anything special in those screenshots.

I imagine you will notice a big change in the graphics when SpeedTree is incorporated into the game.

The level of building detail and view distance are also not optimal in the screenshots shown.

Edited October 2, 2023 by major_setback

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Thanks Setback, very complete response. Other than that.. do you know if we have screenshots of SpeedTree 8.0 or 9.0 implemented in Dover?

[major_setback]

Just now, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

Thanks Setback, very complete response. Other than that.. do you know if we have screenshots of SpeedTree 8.0 or 9.0 implemented in Dover?

 

I think that those who work on SpeedTree might have screenshots. But I don't. Sorry. 

[Feldgrun]

4 hours ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

These are some good looking skins, still a mystery why they chose not to use any of them for the announcement trailer...

 

Maybe they're trying to keep expectations low... 

 

Some of those screenshots really are excellent. From ATAG:

Edited October 2, 2023 by Feldgrun

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

But it's already there. It's in game scree shots and footage. It's not a pre-render or something still in testing or whatever. 

 

IMHO it's more like confirming what many people think, that CloD is a bad looking, bad overall old game not worth their time. When it's completely the contrary. And not showcasing the best it's got to offer doesn't help with that.

 

BTW, multiple users on reddit right now asking what they could try out besides BoS and DCS (because of something that happened these past few days). These are the guys that should try out Clod and say holy f*ck, how have I not known of this game before. And have the same reaction when looking at all the promo material.

But nope, the FFW announcement was less than ideal in terms of screenshots and videos. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by 9./JG52_J-HAT

[Feldgrun]

I think with a few game tweaks (AI, UI & quick missions) this game could be far more popular than it is. Visual updates & VR only enhance it. IL2 1946 has neither, and it's still quite popular.

[Mtnbiker1998]

On 10/2/2023 at 6:15 PM, Feldgrun said:

I think with a few game tweaks (AI, UI & quick missions) this game could be far more popular than it is. Visual updates & VR only enhance it. IL2 1946 has neither, and it's still quite popular.

I wouldn't call 1946 "popular," It has a few old grog holdouts and a few people who hop on occasionally for pacific flying (Plus that one guy who spams his Youtube channel in the 1946 subforum). A quick look at Steamcharts puts its player counts in the dozens, which as it turns out, is still more than CLOD, so maybe you're onto something.

 

Both games are far behind GB in popularity, DCS obliterates GB by a pretty huge margin, and MSFS player counts tower over all the other games COMBINED. Its a pretty straight forward picture what sims are popular, and it ain't either of those. All of these games have non-steam versions so theres of course missing data, but the chart still paints a pretty obvious picture.

 

https://steamcharts.com/cmp/15320,754530,307960,223750#7d

[Lorena_Scout]

anyway you can post interior?

 

like those

 

[major_setback]

21 hours ago, Lorena_Scout said:

anyway you can post interior?

 

like those

 

 

The 3D modeller might have some screenshots. 

[BladeMeister]

Major_setback, I'm not trying to pile on here but J-hat is exactly right with what he says. Why are you guys not posting at the very least 2560x1440 or 4k pics from a very capable rig with a 30 or 40 series card and the graphics settings jacked up? I Love what TFS is trying to do with the Graphics/VR update, but damn you guys shoot yourself in the foot when promoting this thing and trying keep the hype going or get it whipped up again. Come on guys it is not to hard to figure out, top quality photos, top quality videos and information that peeks the interest in what you are doing for your consumer base. Don't just throw sub par material out there and expect people to get excited, especially new potential customers. You guys act like this is rocket science. FYI, PR is not Rocket Science. Maybe you guys don't have time to do PR very often but damn, when you do it, IT NEEDS TO BE TOP NOTCH.

 

S!Blade<><

 

[Mysticpuma]

40 minutes ago, BladeMeister said:

Major_setback, I'm not trying to pile on here but J-hat is exactly right with what he says. Why are you guys not posting at the very least 2560x1440 or 4k pics from a very capable rig with a 30 or 40 series card and the graphics settings jacked up? I Love what TFS is trying to do with the Graphics/VR update, but damn you guys shoot yourself in the foot when promoting this thing and trying keep the hype going or get it whipped up again. Come on guys it is not to hard to figure out, top quality photos, top quality videos and information that peeks the interest in what you are doing for your consumer base. Don't just throw sub par material out there and expect people to get excited, especially new potential customers. You guys act like this is rocket science. FYI, PR is not Rocket Science. Maybe you guys don't have time to do PR very often but damn, when you do it, IT NEEDS TO BE TOP NOTCH.

 

S!Blade<><

 

Never thought I'd see the day.....but I think it's finally happened ?

[No.54_Reddog]

11 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

Major_setback, I'm not trying to pile on here but J-hat is exactly right with what he says. Why are you guys not posting at the very least 2560x1440 or 4k pics from a very capable rig with a 30 or 40 series card and the graphics settings jacked up? I Love what TFS is trying to do with the Graphics/VR update, but damn you guys shoot yourself in the foot when promoting this thing and trying keep the hype going or get it whipped up again. Come on guys it is not to hard to figure out, top quality photos, top quality videos and information that peeks the interest in what you are doing for your consumer base. Don't just throw sub par material out there and expect people to get excited, especially new potential customers. You guys act like this is rocket science. FYI, PR is not Rocket Science. Maybe you guys don't have time to do PR very often but damn, when you do it, IT NEEDS TO BE TOP NOTCH.

 

S!Blade<><

 

So you liked it then? It's hard to tell when you sit on the fence like this. /s

[BladeMeister]

5 hours ago, No.54_Reddog said:

So you liked it then? It's hard to tell when you sit on the fence like this. /s

I appreciate the effort by TFS to share photos, videos and written information with the community, but if they are going to share material it should be top notch pics videos and interesting written material. There is no fence, I am still behind TFS 100%, but the little bit of PR we are getting lately is in part sub par. This is constructive criticism, with an obviously apparent touch of frustration, in the hopes that TFS's PR, as infrequent as it is, will be better quality going forward. I am not drubbing TFS or calling them out for mismangement as some do here, IMHO they need to up their game with the PR they release. Simple as that.

MP, you haven't seen anything, I still support TFS 100% and you acting like there is this "us and them", choose a side, is stupid.

 

S!Blade<><

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by BladeMeister

[Dagwoodyt]

Easy formula: appoint someone to answer questions who cannot provide complete responses then fail to backstop the appointee.

[Mysticpuma]

@BladeMeister I was referring to the frustration about PR which I have contested for years and been called out for. I believe from your comments you have also reached that frustration.... the frustration being this is a damn good flight sim, so why doesn't the team do everything in its power tell people that!

 

I absolutely agree with you on the PR, the first time it should have been called out was the awful official Tobruk video and it's been followed up after all this time with just as good a v6 announcement video. 

 

These are supposed to be paid for add ons, at least sell them to the community as such. Tobruk and V6 videos fail in so many aspects, purchasers would be hard pressed to think it was a professional add on. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Mysticpuma

[Dagwoodyt]

Why announce a FFW DLC when the Tiffy is the only in-game footage available? The Tiffy is mostly shown zoomed way out and the clip apparently does not include trueSKY. I wonder whether the ~1 minute of Tiffy footage might have considerable age on it. The rest of the announcement vid just provides images of aircraft models that seem little more than a "gleam in the eye". A concern, based on the FFW announcement, is that the VU may get rolled into TF 6.0. If that happens there might not be public access to the VU for at least the next "several" years. ?

[Buzzsaw]

On 10/9/2023 at 12:24 PM, Dagwoodyt said:

Why announce a FFW DLC when the Tiffy is the only in-game footage available? The Tiffy is mostly shown zoomed way out and the clip apparently does not include trueSKY. I wonder whether the ~1 minute of Tiffy footage might have considerable age on it. The rest of the announcement vid just provides images of aircraft models that seem little more than a "gleam in the eye". A concern, based on the FFW announcement, is that the VU may get rolled into TF 6.0. If that happens there might not be public access to the VU for at least the next "several" years. ?

Maybe because a certain set of persons were demanding an announcement?  (sarcasm intended)

 

In addition... you have seen announcements from other developers which have nothing but artwork...  we have an actual working aircraft and other aircraft/ships/vehicles in process.  That is a clear indication the module is well underway.

[BOO]

9 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

Maybe because a certain set of persons were demanding an announcement?  (sarcasm intended)

 

 

You cannot blame elements of the community for that Buzzsaw. Only TFS are in control of the content and quality of their PR.  Remember the hype started with your own pre-announcment and was compounded by delays at your end. Not helped of course by all the unseen work TFS has to do with Fulqrum  after the DLC announcment was mooted earlier this year. I also have to query just how loud that demanding was. Seemed like more of a sigh of resignation to me. Regardless, I seriously doubt you genuinely felt the need to go the extra mile to shut up 4 or 5 people. 

 

Sceenshots have gone down well in other sims. Setbacks images have gone down well here. The video majored on static images. Theres no reason to suspect that images alone would not have been sufficient at this, very early, stage. Given the nature of the sceenshots, I suspect a much more advance version of the tiffy existed in a development branch of the game at the time of the video release. I would make have sense to splice in some footage of that. 

 

Regardless - I look forward to Dieppe and I wish TFS the very best with it. 

[Buffo002]

No matter what TF publishes there are still a few individuals squealing like pigs to be slaughtered and they are mostly VR players. And you should realize that VR will take the most work. Be aware that they are digging the whole game from the beginning where there was no VR and in addition there was no True sky and other effects in the game. They've been working on all this since the beginning, it's not just new DLC, but a lot of work since the beginning. You screamed that let a video with new things or pictures appear and when TF did it, you are dissatisfied and scream again ... You are people who are not grateful and will not even support the team, on the contrary you erase them here and sometimes some even insulting, mind you the game wasn't finished when it was new and the devs at the time ran away from it and left the game unfinished... and TF did a lot of work to keep the game running and that was just a few enthusiasts working on it in their spare time and it works ... so be aware ... TF simulator are fighters for me and I appreciate their work.iate their work.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Buffo002

[Gunfreak]

1 hour ago, Buffo002 said:

No matter what TF publishes there are still a few individuals squealing like pigs to be slaughtered and they are mostly VR players. And you should realize that VR will take the most work. Be aware that they are digging the whole game from the beginning where there was no VR and in addition there was no True sky and other effects in the game. They've been working on all this since the beginning, it's not just new DLC, but a lot of work since the beginning. You screamed that let a video with new things or pictures appear and when TF did it, you are dissatisfied and scream again ... You are people who are not grateful and will not even support the team, on the contrary you erase them here and sometimes some even insulting, mind you the game wasn't finished when it was new and the devs at the time ran away from it and left the game unfinished... and TF did a lot of work to keep the game running and that was just a few enthusiasts working on it in their spare time and it works ... so be aware ... TF simulator are fighters for me and I appreciate their work.iate their work.

 

I think you are misunderstanding.

People are critical, not for themselves but for the wellbeing of Clod.

They know clod is good, they also know clod must get many new players if they are gonna be able to continue.

 

What many are saying the announcement video might have done more harm than good, in this.

People who don't know clod are not gonna go; wow this looks awesome.

 

The actual info in the announcement was good and many are excited for Fw190s, Typhoons and B17s.

But the video made the game look graphically worse than it really is. And that is never good. 

 

Since the tiffy is the one furthest away.

You could try and make a story with it.

Make sue everything is on max graphics. Show it taking off fly it through the trueSKY clouds. Set up a well directed attack etc.

Then find appropriate times to splice in the pictures and video of the unfinished stuff.

The pictures released later of the tiffy were great.

 

Yes there is a lot of complaining. Some warranted some, some not.

But all because in the end they want Clod to succeed because they know it really is a fantastic ww2 simulator. 

[Mysticpuma]

39 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

 

I think you are misunderstanding.

People are critical, not for themselves but for the wellbeing of Clod.

They know clod is good, they also know clod must get many new players if they are gonna be able to continue.

 

What many are saying the announcement video might have done more harm than good, in this.

People who don't know clod are not gonna go; wow this looks awesome.

 

The actual info in the announcement was good and many are excited for Fw190s, Typhoons and B17s.

But the video made the game look graphically worse than it really is. And that is never good. 

 

Since the tiffy is the one furthest away.

You could try and make a story with it.

Make sue everything is on max graphics. Show it taking off fly it through the trueSKY clouds. Set up a well directed attack etc.

Then find appropriate times to splice in the pictures and video of the unfinished stuff.

The pictures released later of the tiffy were great.

 

Yes there is a lot of complaining. Some warranted some, some not.

But all because in the end they want Clod to succeed because they know it really is a fantastic ww2 simulator. 

This should be printed off and stuck in the virtual offices of TFS. 

We are here because we love the product. Just let us show and tell people who aren't aware of the product how good it is! 

[=FEW=Hauggy]

18 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

Maybe because a certain set of persons were demanding an announcement?  (sarcasm intended)

 

In addition... you have seen announcements from other developers which have nothing but artwork...  we have an actual working aircraft and other aircraft/ships/vehicles in process.  That is a clear indication the module is well underway.

I've noticed you removed the video...

You could have posted a written message with pictures and I bet we wouldn't have heard a thing lmao. I mean I don't really expect this game to attract new players because of it's current state so I don't see why we need top notch PR I might be wrong tho.

Many thanks for sharing this with us, I'm one of those who appreciated that video (maybe because I'm a bit of a fanboy come to think of it).

I'm guessing some of us here expected you to make it a full time job after Tobruk succeeded to keep you guys going. So it's not the case is it?

Are you still looking for someone to communicate with the public on a regular basis about the state of the project if I may? I remember we had one for a few months.

Maybe someone communicating and managing the forum / Steam forum wouldn't be such a bad thing after all.

 

All the best guys! If I could pre-order I would.

 

[No.54_Reddog]

On 10/11/2023 at 11:17 PM, Buzzsaw said:

Maybe because a certain set of persons were demanding an announcement?  (sarcasm intended)

 

In addition... you have seen announcements from other developers which have nothing but artwork...  we have an actual working aircraft and other aircraft/ships/vehicles in process.  That is a clear indication the module is well underway.

Whataboutism. Now there's a defense I haven't seen for a while. So because other developers choose to use concept artwork, it makes sense for you to show a crap video? If you believed that, you wouldn't have taken it down. 

[Dagwoodyt]

On 10/11/2023 at 3:17 PM, Buzzsaw said:

Maybe because a certain set of persons were demanding an announcement?  (sarcasm intended)

TFS has been teasing a TF 6.0 announcement for years. My thinking was that TF 6.0 should best be announced after successful public VU beta or full VU release. That would have provided a basis for confidence in the team's ability to deliver. What was done instead was to add a TF 6.0 "carrot" to a still unfulfilled VU implementation. If anyone is responsible for that video look to the persons(?) who signed off on its' release and removal.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

3 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

TFS has been teasing a TF 6.0 announcement for years. My thinking was that TF 6.0 should best be announced after successful public VU beta or full VU release. That would have provided a basis for confidence in the team's ability to deliver. What was done instead was to add a TF 6.0 "carrot" to a still unfulfilled VU implementation. If anyone is responsible for that video look to the persons(?) who signed off on its' release and removal.

I'm pretty certain VR was supposed to follow Tobruk if succesful originally.

VR is currently in Beta testing so we're still in that scope.

The only issue is maybe a bit of a lack of clear communication but I don't see what disproves the team's ability to deliver there.

Edited October 13, 2023 by =FEW=Hauggy

[Buzzsaw]

On 10/13/2023 at 2:44 PM, =FEW=Hauggy said:

I'm pretty certain VR was supposed to follow Tobruk if succesful originally.

VR is currently in Beta testing so we're still in that scope.

The only issue is maybe a bit of a lack of clear communication but I don't see what disproves the team's ability to deliver there.

Yes, VR was supposed to follow TOBRUK sooner.

 

However, with the Pandemic, we lost the programmer who was doing the VR work... he needed to step away to take care of his family, as his wife could no longer work.  And it took us a LONG time to find another programmer who could replace him.