The status of the yet-to-be-announced title

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

1 hour ago, tattywelshie said:

don't forget to enjoy the actual game.

I do enjoy the game. I think most do. The reason not to enjoy because lack of information about new project is simple BS.

[tattywelshie]

56 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

I do enjoy the game. I think most do. The reason not to enjoy because lack of information about new project is simple BS.

Exactly, and for a SP fan the possibilities are endless. There is so much i've not done in the game, so many aircraft i've never flown in career mode, campaigns to do. It's always nice getting new stuff to keep things fresh, and always nice to know what's on the horizon. As far as the future is concerned, I'd rather they stick with WW2, but Korea could be spectacular should they go down that route. I mean, the Sea Fury, that would be something else! 

[dburne]

I really do not think there are that many that are supposedly not enjoying the current game because of the current lack of information on what is coming. It has been a year and folks are hungry for more clarity on what actually is coming down the pike, where it be in 6 months or a year or more, they just want to know what to look forward to. 

Edited September 25, 2023 by dburne

[JFM]

3 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

 

Read up on Korea... there are events and phases be sure... 

 

Yes. The comment is, “…But the time period of the war which will be simulated…” That’s not evidence of WW2, or any war. Just the war on which their new sim is focused. 
 

Personally, I’m jazzed if it’s Korea, SO many awesome planes to fly that we don’t already fly elsewhere. But I get the disinterest of some; I have that same initial disinterest for the MTO or Africa. But would I buy/have I bought sims based in those theatres? You bet! 

[Aurora_Stealth]

Personally, I trust the team - they know their game better than anyone else... and from all of the years of development, feedback and hard work (and pain along the way) they are best positioned to make the call on executing this development to meet the needs of the community. This is bigger than just the next theatre/map or set of aircraft - its a new platform on which people's expectations are trying to be realised through. People on this forum have had a great deal of input on the game's development over the years... that's why we're now seeing this huge effort to focus on developing it... so its hardly as if people have not been listened to.

 

The developers see the helicopter view of what people want and they know the root causes of where things need to change based on previous experience, in order to move forwards. I appreciate that the developers are making the decision to concentrate on this in a properly validated new build of IL-2 - this is the accumulation of years of experience, frustration and requests for new systems that is actually coming to fruition.

 

Re-building the obsolescent parts of the game while trying to preserve as much of the existing content seems to have been well considered.

 

It will ultimately be up to them to decide if the results they get create an efficient and workable system... that's their job and they are best placed to understand and achieve this. With expectations this high, its understandable why they aren't going to say for sure that the game won't end up being reworked in greater depth - no one can promise it will perform as people want until it has all come together.

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

My 2 cents :  Like I've already posted, if it's not WW2, I'm not interested.  

My TC and vehicles collection is currently 100%, my FC is vol.1 and 2 + some vol. 1/2 collectors and my GB collection is nearly 100%.  If this is a new title that is WW2, I simply won't be able to afford to re-buy all that I've already put in unless it's ALL the current content spectacularly rebuilt to an extremely high level of quality compared to current and packaged as 1 unit for a reasonable 1-time price.  If that's not the case, that's where I fall off.  It would not be a protest. It would be my reality.  I understand that 1 customer falling off isn't going to make any difference and amongst the community the sentiment of some might be "don't let the door hit you", but that's just the way it is. 

If my personal funds improved and I had the time, I would most likely still consider putting more into support of whatever is next.

However... If Great Battles development was ended and a new title series was launched but the Great Battles single player campaign and other relevant features wasn't unlocked for offline play (no online log in required) then, I WOULD protest by never buying a 1C product again.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Mobile_BBQ

[Picchio]

2 hours ago, tattywelshie said:

Exactly, and for a SP fan the possibilities are endless. There is so much i've not done in the game, so many aircraft i've never flown in career mode, campaigns to do. It's always nice getting new stuff to keep things fresh, and always nice to know what's on the horizon. As far as the future is concerned, I'd rather they stick with WW2, but Korea could be spectacular should they go down that route. I mean, the Sea Fury, that would be something else! 

 

As a SP fan, my feeling is that the larger volume of content has been the only balancing factor given the abscence of anything interesting (not to mention innovative) regarding gameplay.

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Picchio

[S10JlAbraxis]

I think Korea would be a great addition to BOX.  Interesting aircraft, with both props and jets, a geographically interesting map (it would need to be large) and an extreamly dynamic war with many front line changes.  Lot's of ground pounding and air to air and the possibility of carrier ops as well.  There is really not much difference between late WW2 and Korea except for the addition of a few higher performance jets.       

[deathmisser]

I don't know how I've missed this but here is my take. I know some responses will be a bit harsh but this isn't my way of attacking the devs.

It will just be me taking this apart and putting what I understand from thought to paper or well pixels. 

 

 

We understand you don't want to make fake promise for a product. But I think these should be side projects and not be in the main title. 

 

That is great news to hear but the one word I'm struggling with why does it take a year/more for this one module to be named ?

IIcr it only taken like less than 6 months for the previous 4 modules to be announced.

I think most players will be happy with just the announce and rather than the release date.  

 

That is good news but will it hurt if we had small sneak peak drips of these ? To keep the players interested.

 

 

Well the current sim quality was already good enough at it was I fear if we go beyond this people may need to infest in more powerful PC.

And won't have enough for the module it self. 

 

 

Huh what does that mean ? 

 

 

I'm sorry but what ?

 

I thought you wasn't announce the module too early because of fake promises and now you telling us what could be in the next module.  

 

 

Ok that is good but now you totally lost me if there is more fast work being done then that could mean that the next Il-2 module should be finished earlier.

 

This is just repeating yourself again and making me more confused.

 

 

But yea thank you for the update and well done for the dev for work much love.

 

 

 

 

[Picchio]

 

6 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

 

 

Han's comments are indirect for a reason. But yours? What are you on?

[deathmisser]

6 minutes ago, Picchio said:

 

 

Han's comments are indirect for a reason. But yours? What are you on?

I'm not the best at making these type of responses any help is helpful.

 

Plus I'm not saying Hans comment was indirect it was just me reading it how I am understand the situation

Edited September 25, 2023 by deathmisser

[Picchio]

Yeah, well...

Perhaps what we need is someone (@LukeFF?) to write down one coherent summary of all the officially available information in a single thread (it wouldn't take long ?), keep it updated, separating interpretations from facts...

 

Then reserve another (only one!) thread open for all kinds of mad speculations, and lock away all the others ?

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Picchio

[CountZero]

8 minutes ago, Picchio said:

Yeah, well...

Perhaps what we need is someone (@LukeFF?) to write down one coherent summary of all the officially available information in a single thread (it wouldn't take long ?), keep it updated, separating interpretations from facts...

 

Then reserve another (only one!) thread open for all kinds of mad speculations, and lock away all the others ?

 

But then things would be clear, it seams that for them its good when things are muddy and mixed, they still didnt even bather to explain to ppl that they are working on new game separate from this one, you see he thinks Han is talking about new modul when to me its clear hes talking about new sim... so if they dont bather to clear this important thing why bather to clear other stuff...

[Lusekofte]

18 hours ago, FuriousMeow said:

Makes zero sense that any information is needed on the next project to continue playing and enjoying what is already available, and with known additional content coming for what is already available.

I totally agree on this, my problem is finding the use of it. This is why I hope improvements  goes my way. And I engage this topic with some enthusiasm. My problem is time, right now I spend most of it on choppers in DCS , I prefer GB when it comes to WW2 because it got a less complex user interface. 
But because you hardly have a survivable mission in sp nor mp for the planes I like to fly CLOD because it’s complex dm and more historical correct bombaim and autopilot. It make bomb run a bit more challenging. 
Anyway I prefer to use them all according to what my mood is

[deathmisser]

18 minutes ago, CountZero said:

But then things would be clear, it seams that for them its good when things are muddy and mixed, they still didnt even bather to explain to ppl that they are working on new game separate from this one, you see he thinks Han is talking about new modul when to me its clear hes talking about new sim... so if they dont bather to clear this important thing why bather to clear other stuff...

I mean why create a new sim ? I know things are a bit limited in GB but their are so many areas still left to conquer.

 

So far having having a Early war sim and a late war sim is a good mix for the company if they thinking of going 50s to modern then that have to be worth it for people to pay as we got War Thunder and DCS.  

 

Idk how to feel about having yet another Il-2 to install. 

[CountZero]

4 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

I mean why create a new sim ? I know things are a bit limited in GB but their are so many areas still left to conquer.

 

So far having having a Early war sim and a late war sim is a good mix for the company if they thinking of going 50s to modern then that have to be worth it for people to pay as we got War Thunder and DCS.  

 

Idk how to feel about having yet another Il-2 to install. 

So you think Han is talking about work they do/did last year for this game ? not another game separat from this game ?

[deathmisser]

9 minutes ago, CountZero said:

So you think Han is talking about work they do/did last year for this game ? not another game separat from this game ?

Translation can be a bit hard but from the information I learnt from the past year yea I think it's just another module. 

IIcr they said around 6 months ago they have finished at least one aircraft for it and it's not Italy. 

 

I can post my list if you want.  I don't know how up to date it is now.

 

A. Swimming pilots

B. No carries 

C. Needs lot of recourses

D. It's not Italy 

E. It's something new 

F. Piston engine themed 

G. Little to no cities 

H. Not in the Pacific 

I. It was almost gonna be Malta if Jason had his way. 

J. They picked five theatres of war before deciding the final one.

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by deathmisser

[Talisman]

6 hours ago, JG27_Steini said:

 

Might be a huge amount, but the world is not only america. WW2 affects many more countries. Whole europe, much of africa, asia and america was involded. Many player have an personal interesset in WW2 because of their on relations. Korea is not well known and it affects less player for not involeved in this conflict. USA has a big impact, thats right, but i think that many current europe player struggle with it. In europe the Korea conflict is not much present like it is in the USA. If we really get an Korea module, what will be next? Does Korea offer enough for more modules about this conflict like WW2 does?

This article says over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea, so folks from many parts of the world could be interested.  In addition, there are very large populations in countries that supported North Korea.  I think Korea as the next theatre for IL-2 could bring in a lot of new potential customers and could be a good business move.  Prop ac, early jets, carrier ops, helicopters, tanks, etc, all have lots of scope.  Helicopters could draw a whole new group of flight sim enthusiasts and add many new types of missions for folks to explore.  

Over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea in the Korean War (qz.com)

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

1 hour ago, S10JlAbraxis said:

I think Korea would be a great addition to BOX.  Interesting aircraft, with both props and jets, a geographically interesting map (it would need to be large) and an extreamly dynamic war with many front line changes.  Lot's of ground pounding and air to air and the possibility of carrier ops as well.  There is really not much difference between late WW2 and Korea except for the addition of a few higher performance jets.       

Very much agree with this.

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

[Zooropa_Fly]

That first statement from Han doesn't say anything not said before, the follow up gives a hint or two about a couple of things..

 

Personally, I'm not in any great hurry to find out what's coming next, and in the past have maybe been a bit critical of people who can be a bit 'entitled' when it comes to demanding answers and insights about anything and everything.

 

However, we're in 2023 now and for this type of game, clearly good comms from developers is important.

I don't care what anyone says - MP numbers and Forum participation don't look great, and whatever anyone's personal opinion about getting announcements about stuff, there are long established simmers of this game stating that they're losing interest because of this. It's in black and white.

The assumption that no matter what, everyone will buy the new game / module when it comes out could be a dangerous assumption.

 

Considering what's been said (about the time worked on the map), obviously the 'theatre' was decided long ago.

So my advice would be to release details of the theatre of operation.

That would suffice for now and buy the team some time before they have to leak out anything else.

 

Of course that would stimulate more questions - but not every question needs to be answered.

If it's purely a speculative punt kind of question, I'd recommend they can be ignored.

Apart from anything else, I'm sure we'd all prefer the developers spent time cracking on with the game, rather than constantly having to field off questions about are we getting this.. that..

 

So, unless there's a good commercial reason for continuing to stay quiet about everything.. Where's it going to be ?

That would initiate some positive discussion.

It's all becoming a bit negative.

 

S!

[S10JlAbraxis]

29 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

I mean why create a new sim ? I know things are a bit limited in GB but their are so many areas still left to conquer.

 

So far having having a Early war sim and a late war sim is a good mix for the company if they thinking of going 50s to modern then that have to be worth it for people to pay as we got War Thunder and DCS.  

 

Idk how to feel about having yet another Il-2 to install. 

 

Why create a new sim?  Because things relentlessly progress in the world.  Nothing is static, change is constant.  Their are multipule companies currently working on new combat sims from the bottom up that will ellipse BOX if they do not update their product.  As has been made clear aspects of the sim are no longer able to be updated, such as the UI, this is an untenable situation.  If they do not update their platform they will eventually (sooner then later) go out of business.  They do not want to be the last buggy whip manufacturer and good for them.  Would you be happy to still be playing Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?  It is long past time for a major update to BOX meaning a complete break from the current product.  I am looking foward to enhancments such as a better damage model, improved AI, better and more detailed maps etc etc....

[JG27_Steini]

30 minutes ago, 56RAF_Talisman said:

This article says over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea, so folks from many parts of the world could be interested.  In addition, there are very large populations in countries that supported North Korea.  I think Korea as the next theatre for IL-2 could bring in a lot of new potential customers and could be a good business move.  Prop ac, early jets, carrier ops, helicopters, tanks, etc, all have lots of scope.  Helicopters could draw a whole new group of flight sim enthusiasts and add many new types of missions for folks to explore.  

Over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea in the Korean War (qz.com)

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

Very much agree with this.

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

 

It is not the same when u send some material or pilots to an unknown country, then fight above your own. The WW2 player base is simple much bigger than Korea. Every child knows one famouse WW2 battle. I dont even know a single Korean one.

 

The plane list is also not very spectacular. Most planes would besuccessor of WW2 ones, only with a better performance. The worst drawback but would be the jet vs propeller fighting for multiplayer. With WW2 there is a good chance to allready have a big list of planes usable for many other settings.

Edited September 25, 2023 by JG27_Steini

[kestrel79]

Thanks for the extra info, Han. I'm cool with the details still being kept under wraps. As long as we know it's getting worked on, with new features and a larger team this all sounds great to me.

 

Until this gets announced I'm just going to keep enjoying all the awesome sims we have right now. I really don't understand the people who have stopped playing this sim simply because they haven't given us that many details on the new project yet? If you read between the lines there's some juicy tidbits in there.

 

Keep workin hard fellas, the only negative thing with keeping things secret for so long so when you do make the annoucement...it better be good and worth the wait.

[CountZero]

49 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

Translation can be a bit hard but from the information I learnt from the past year yea I think it's just another module. 

IIcr they said around 6 months ago they have finished at least one aircraft for it and it's not Italy. 

 

I can post my list if you want.  I don't know how up to date it is now.

 

A. Swimming pilots

B. No carries 

C. Needs lot of recourses

D. It's not Italy 

E. It's something new 

F. Piston engine themed 

G. Little to no cities 

H. Not in the Pacific 

I. It was almost gonna be Malta if Jason had his way. 

J. They picked five theatres of war before deciding the final one.

 

 

 

" And now, after a year, this objective is completed and the reinforced team is fully ahead to our main objective - the new IL-2 release. Everything we have planned for the first year is done. And this year - is a significant part of the development timeline which it's not too long in total. So we are strongly sure that the new sim will be completed in time."

[deathmisser]

12 minutes ago, CountZero said:

" And now, after a year, this objective is completed and the reinforced team is fully ahead to our main objective - the new IL-2 release. Everything we have planned for the first year is done. And this year - is a significant part of the development timeline which it's not too long in total. So we are strongly sure that the new sim will be completed in time."

I guess we have to wait and see. 

 

But I think what ever it is they are going to release it when it is done. 

[LuftManu]

I would love it if it's Korea.

 

I know we are used to WW2, but this theater is trully interesting, has great list of famous props and hasn't been done to death in the past.

 

Think of Corsair, Skyraider, Sabre, late P(F)-51 model... plus Il-10, Yak-9, MiG-15, La-11 and more.

 

I can't think of a better way to show the new tech or the things that they worked than to do it with an interesting setup. Also, Han said that the new map would be larger and more varied. Plus not many cities and it's really exotic and beautiful. The peninsula of Korea fits these boxes!

 

If at the end it's not Korea, I am sure we will also be really happy.

 

 

[deathmisser]

2 minutes ago, LuftManu said:

I would love it if it's Korea.

 

I know we are used to WW2, but this theater is trully interesting, has great list of famous props and hasn't been done to death in the past.

 

Think of Corsair, Skyraider, Sabre, late P(F)-51 model... plus Il-10, Yak-9, MiG-15, La-11 and more.

 

I can't think of a better way to show the new tech or the things that they worked than to do it with an interesting setup. Also, Han said that the new map would be larger and more varied. Plus not many cities and it's really exotic and beautiful. The peninsula of Korea fits these boxes!

 

If at the end it's not Korea, I am sure we will also be really happy.

 

 

I missed them thank you for that info. 

 

Ether Korea, Burma or for the laughs south Amarica.  (football war anyone) 

[LuftManu]

Either way, I am just really excited about this! Don't want to derail the thread. The next step in our beloved Il-2. The first time you sit in the cockpit on any sim/update or whatever it ends up being will always feel great!

 

Xmas feeling!

?

[Varibraun]

56 minutes ago, 56RAF_Talisman said:

there are very large populations in countries that supported North Korea.  I think Korea as the next theatre for IL-2 could bring in a lot of new potential customers and could be a good business move. 

 

Exactly my thought too - From a business perspective where is the largest mostly untapped customer base for a product that gets 1C past problems that CBI would bring?  Because at the end of the day 1C is a business in a very tough world, I will be shocked if it isn't a new Korea sim.  How else do you justify doubling the team?  Korea hits all of their potential audiences on both sides of the conflict and there is no real competition there (DCS just has just the 2 jets, no map and little very SP content currently set there). 

 

I just hope maybe BoX/FC will get some benefits too from the new tech.  

[Youtch]

Let s say they drop ww2 theaters and IL2 goes to Korea.

 

Then what next? It is a little bit of a dead end and there is not much potential reuse for the plane set and map developped specifically for Korea.

 

The joy of IL2 serie so far is that each map and plane set developped to date will at some point be completed by future releases and intercompatible, and slowly but surely release after release you grow a very solid fully fledged sim for ww2 (or ww1).

 

DCS went a little bit that path with cold war planes and ended up with a very good looking but empty world, where the lack of diversity is in par with the boring multiplayer experience.

[tattywelshie]

I have to admit initially I was a bit non enthusiastic about the possibility of Korea. But like has been said, the interesting aircraft that took place in it is mind blowing! Who knows, maybe we’d even get the B29!
 

I absolutely love all aspects of aviation history, and whilst I’ve invested most of my time into the study of WW2, Korea is one era I’d be keen to learn more about (I’m listening to an excellent audio book called Mig Alley on audible right now, which is fascinating). It was set at a real crossroads of military aviation, jets, jets landing on carriers, supersonic flight, ejection seats, etc were all in their infancy and Korea proved to be a real testing ground for a lot of brand new tech. 
 

I’m not saying we need to go out and learn about the history air combat in Korea, and I’m sure there are many on here who know a hell of a lot about it, but the small amount of research I’ve done on the subject really does peak my interest. 

 

 

[LuftManu]

7 minutes ago, Youtch said:

Let s say they drop ww2 theaters and IL2 goes to Korea.

 

Then what next? It is a little bit of a dead end and there is not much potential reuse for the plane set and map developped specifically for Korea.

 

The joy of IL2 serie so far is that each map and plane set developped to date will at some point be completed by future releases and intercompatible, and slowly but surely release after release you grow a very solid fully fledged sim for ww2 (or ww1).

 

DCS went a little bit that path with cold war planes and ended up with a very good looking but empty world, where the lack of diversity is in par with the boring multiplayer experience.

There is no need to go forward, they can always go backwards in time or have the content of GB in the new thing. (Which we don't know yet if it's possible, will come with it, just an update etc.)

There are a lot of scenarios that can be of use too! for example, Desert war or Battle of Britain now that Cliffs of Dover is going their way (iirc)

 

Maybe they want to launch the new project in another setup than Bf 109 vs Spifire if it's not Pacific.

Anyways, we are just speculating ?

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Picchio said:

Yeah, well...

Perhaps what we need is someone (@LukeFF?) to write down one coherent summary of all the officially available information in a single thread (it wouldn't take long ?), keep it updated, separating interpretations from facts...

 

Then reserve another (only one!) thread open for all kinds of mad speculations, and lock away all the others ?

 

If I say more than I have, Han will drop a nuclear bomb on me, and I don't want that to happen. ? So I'll just leave it at that - as he alluded to, there are very good reasons why the next project title hasn't been publicly announced yet.

[BlitzPig_EL]

I'm in for Korea just for the late prop aircraft that we rarely see accurately modeled.

La 11 

Yak 9P

IL 10

Tu 2

Sea Fury

Firefly

F-82 Twin Mustang

Skyraider

A(B) 26

Late Corsair

 

Hell, the jets are just (very thin) icing on the cake.

[tattywelshie]

13 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

If I say more than I have, Han will drop a nuclear bomb on me, and I don't want that to happen. ? So I'll just leave it at that - as he alluded to, there are very good reasons why the next project title hasn't been publicly announced yet.

I wonder if it was being held back pending the announcement of the TF’s latest dlc? I mean it would make sense not to announce something at the same time as they did. 

[deathmisser]

12 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

If I say more than I have, Han will drop a nuclear bomb on me, and I don't want that to happen. ? So I'll just leave it at that - as he alluded to, there are very good reasons why the next project title hasn't been publicly announced yet.

I think we all know what it is now : ) 

 

List is now updated.

 

A. Swimming pilots

B. No carries 

C. Needs lot of recourses

D. It's not Italy 

E. It's something new 

F. Piston engine themed 

G. Little to no cities 

H. Not in the Pacific 

I. It was almost gonna be Malta if Jason had his way. 

J. They picked five theatres of war before deciding the final one.

K. Larger Map

L. Really exotic and beautiful

M. New aircraft systems 

N. New damage simulation

O. New ammunitions 

[LuftManu]

3 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

I think we all know what it is now : ) 

 

List is now updated.

 

A. Swimming pilots

B. No carries 

C. Needs lot of recourses

D. It's not Italy 

E. It's something new 

F. Piston engine themed 

G. Little to no cities 

H. Not in the Pacific 

I. It was almost gonna be Malta if Jason had his way. 

J. They picked five theatres of war before deciding the final one.

K. Larger Map

L. Really exotic and beautiful

M. New aircraft systems 

N. New damage simulation

O. New ammunitions 

 

 

???

Sorry, couldn't resist!

[LukeFF]

10 minutes ago, tattywelshie said:

I wonder if it was being held back pending the announcement of the TF’s latest dlc? I mean it would make sense not to announce something at the same time as they did. 

 

Nah, TF's work and announcements have no bearing on our announcement schedule over here. 

[Hartsblade]

So since this seems to be where folks are sharing their thoughts and current mood regarding BoX, I figured I'd share too.

 

I've been a been a big supporter of the franchise and it's related titles. I own nearly all, if not all, BoX & FC content up to and including Normandy and FC2. I also own Ciliffs Blitz & Tobruk, as well as all of the RoF products. So to say that I've been a loyal is fairly obvious.

 

However things have changed, and while change is inevitable it is not always good.  Since last yesrs changing of the guard things just feel different, less open and less friendly.  So much so that when FC3 and the last few new aircraft came out I found myself just not interested.  Don't get me wrong I love WWI and a number of the aircraft I've been waiting for are in FC3, I guess I've lost faith in the company and not the content.

 

Now with regards to the new project, the lack of information over the last year has pretty much killed my interest. After last years announcement I like others felt a little uneasy because there were hints and speculation that BoX could be not only be changing theaters, but conflicts.  Over the course of the year many in the community expressed their unease, not over the change, but over not know what the change would be and over not even knowing the basic direction the project was going.

 

For me, it's going to have to knock my socks off, and the overall mood and openness of the project team will need to improve before I feel free to invest in a new project, and if the speculation over changing Conflicts is indeed true  then they may have lost me altogether. 

 

I will say this, most of this drama and angst over the future of BoX could have been avoided with a little more trust in the community and the sharing of the tiniest amount of information regarding the future of the project.

 

Obviously I am still lurking here in the shadows waiting to see what's next, hoping to see a change that is good, but I'm not optimistic.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Youtch said:

Let s say they drop ww2 theaters and IL2 goes to Korea.

 

Then what next? It is a little bit of a dead end and there is not much potential reuse for the plane set and map developped specifically for Korea.

 

The joy of IL2 serie so far is that each map and plane set developped to date will at some point be completed by future releases and intercompatible, and slowly but surely release after release you grow a very solid fully fledged sim for ww2 (or ww1).

 

DCS went a little bit that path with cold war planes and ended up with a very good looking but empty world, where the lack of diversity is in par with the boring multiplayer experience.

 

Who knows maybe 1CGS is turning an eye on DCS and the more modern stuff than WWII for the future. And will use Korea as a stepping stone.

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I'm leaning towards Korea as well; during BoB development, there was a lot of effort the team put in to properly building "jet engine tech" with the Me-262...plus a Korean expansion would be a fantastic springboard for introducing carrier ops down the road (Panthers, Skyraiders, Corsairs).

Focusing solely on carrier operations (landing, take-offs, etc), ship formations, etc., without getting too bogged down in also trying to develop naval engagements, which were pretty much non-existent in the Korean War theatre...now in the Pacific? That's another story all together. Makes for smaller technological steps. My $0.02.