Discussion of Fortresses and Focke-Wulfs Announcement

[ATAG_Snapper]

Please use this thread for all discussions of the Fortresses and Focke-Wulfs Announcment.

[BOO]

@Riley  perhaps put a link to this discussion thread in the announcement. 

[ATAG_Snapper]

Good idea. Done. Thanks, Boo.

[Dagwoodyt]

 

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[Trooper117]

I wondered when some joker would start their posts with that... it was bound to be you.

 

[Missionbug]

Looks good, bring it on, there are enough types there I think to interest most of the community.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[5th_Barone]

maybe would be a good idea to put the video as a public one so everyone on your YT channel can see it. @Riley

 

and if possible please check font dims and bold text. It's a bit of a punch in the eye (I guess the problem may be the copy and paste from ATAG forum).

Edited September 22, 2023 by 5th_Barone

[No.54_Reddog]

OK. Lots to digest.

 

I'm sure many people are spaffing themselves silly at the prospect of the 190 and 51 and B17. I particularly look forward to the AI trying to fly a B17 combat box.

 

"New" map? It's the same map. Apart from a few new German creations during 40 and 41, what's new about it? Is it bigger? Smaller? More accurate?

 

New ground types "to allow the land battle to be recreated in detail" - will they actually be able to cross bridges?

 

I like the reference to the "more precise ...damage....modelling" - and then the shot in the video of the HE111 wing coming off as soon as it's hit and the train playing dead. Nice touch.

 

"Improved graphics, including 4k textures for aircraft externals and cockpits, extended viewing distance, 4k terrain modeling, full 3D implementation for players with Virtual Reality headsets, updated vegetation and new cloud and weather systems." - so that's the Visual Upgrade you've just described. Won't that be here before then?

 

No sign of explanation of what the AI changes will be expect that they're "new" and "improved". Look forward to seeing that unfold.

 

A new QMB is probably the most wanted item out there (VU not withstanding) looking at recent posts. I hope it has AI settings included based on those conversations.

 

Release in Q2 2024? Excellent. Shall we take bets now or wait till closer to the time?

 

 

[ATAG_Snapper]

8 minutes ago, 5th_Barone said:

maybe would be a good idea to put the video as a public one so everyone on your YT channel can see it. @Riley

Good idea. Done. Thanks!

[BOO]

So.....

 

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B17 and P51A are very nice things to have and a good marketing choice no doubt. 

Likely many will enjoy the mid mark fighters and GA capable aircraft 

Im happy its the channel as I think its a really good base map to start with and Im really pleased to see it getting more love

New QMB

SP content

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The early in game footage of the tiffy looks a little 1946 but, to date, TFS has produced good models and cockpits so i see no reason why that shouldnt be the case here.

Hopefully more map work can be done. Looks good in the air but not so good and dated when on the ground- especially the grass.

The announcment was a bti dry in terms of presentation style and the video even more so. Ive seen many well polished official and fan made videos for Clod so it can be done and hopefully will going forward. 

Seems theres much work to be done in 18 months so I remain sceptical about the 2024 date given whats gone before.

Another 18 months minimum wait for improved AI wont help the title in the present

The VU is conspicuous by it absence given comments made by TFS member about the likelyhood of further delays forcing it be packaged with 6.0.

 

[5th_Barone]

Apart from the very low level of the marketing shown in the announcement....... (so waiting time for few words and a dry video?)

 

At least the plane set everyone was expecting has been confirmed. Nice to see a 4 engine bomber.

It's since the time of Il-2 46 that we don't have one flyable.

This is a very good addition.

Edited September 22, 2023 by 5th_Barone

[Mad_Mikhael]

B-17? Now you got my attention ?

[DBFlyguy]

Flyable B-17!?!? ?

 

[354thFG_Panda_]

B17?

Edited September 22, 2023 by Red_Panda

[Enceladus828]

Would it be possible to fly some of these planes like the Bf-110F, Ju-88s, Spitfire Mk. Vc, and Bf-109G-2 on the Tobruk map; trop. variants?

[deathmisser]

Ngl I really hope for a menu change like what we had in Il-1946.

Edited September 22, 2023 by deathmisser

[Koziolek]

I wonder what " detailed campaigns" mean?  Just scripted campaigns or a campaign mode?

[Lorena_Scout]

any words on how much it will cost? $$$

[kestrel79]

I really like the planeset, B-17 is exciting. You have my interest. I'll check this out late next year no doubt good luck!

[Dauntless]

[Mysticpuma]

I am a bit surprised after all this time that there are no new areas of combat added? 

I really was expecting somewhere like Malta, not just updating a town/city? 

[Lorena_Scout]

the amount of detail and passion that this team adds to the game is absolutely outstanding.

 

 

 

[Mysticpuma]

12 hours ago, Lorena_Scout said:

the amount of detail and passion that this team adds to the game is absolutely outstanding.

 

 

 

Hopefully the damage model will be improved so that one shot doesn't snap the wing in a perfect straight line with no rough edges? 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Mysticpuma

[Blitzen]

I've bought everything else - so take my money for this too, but in the meantime can you hurry along CloD DW TF6?

Edited September 22, 2023 by Blitzen

[Mysticpuma]

5 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

I've bought everything else - so take my money for this too, but in the meantime can you hurry along CloD DW TF6?

This is V6 announcement. 

Due at the end of 2024.

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

The future is pretty interesting if this dlc success and a vast of the GB players/pilots imigrate to Clod.

 

I'm just waiting the VR release for been part of those who will fight again on Clod.

[Dagwoodyt]

TF is typically several years behind on advertised release date projections. It is also conceivable that, to "speed" release of TF 6.0, certain features might actually have to follow release?

[kestrel79]

25 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_VR*Red5* said:

The future is pretty interesting if this dlc success and a vast of the GB players/pilots imigrate to Clod.

 

I'm just waiting the VR release for been part of those who will fight again on Clod.

 

I don't think thousands of people are going to "migrate" to this once it's released. Try it, sure. But by this time next year, I'm sure the IL2-GB team will have their new project announced and out there, and that will be the apple of everyone's eye. Not to mention Combat Pilot, more DCS ww2 stuff, MSFS24. Good time to be a flight simmer.

 

I wish them best of luck! I'll tune in a year from now when we get closer.

[FTC_Rostic]

Well. I bought Tobruk just to get Wellington and it worthed it. B-17 in next DLC is the best reason to by it too. Of course lots of new other aircrafts will be nice addition too.

 

From all mentioned above the most important thing to be done is AI improvements and fixes (especially fixing that damn AI waving flying in formation bug). Actually fixing of all known bugs - is a big thin that I expect will be done by then even more then new aircrafts, vehicles and maps.

[Dagwoodyt]

31 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_VR*Red5* said:

The future is pretty interesting if this dlc success and a vast of the GB players/pilots imigrate to Clod.

 

I'm just waiting the VR release for been part of those who will fight again on Clod.

Assuming TF 6.0 surfaces in some unknown state of completion in 2025, remenber that other developers will not have been just marking time.

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

Although this announcement is a bit underwhelming from a marketing point of view I really like the content.

 

Nice planeset!

 

Hope the release date doesn't slip too far from what's been announced. Keep it up and we will hopefully see it in a year. 

 

Would be nice to have a proper announcement on Steam too. 

 

[Buzzsaw]

8 minutes ago, 9./JG52_J-HAT said:

Although this announcement is a bit underwhelming from a marketing point of view I really like the content.

 

Nice planeset!

 

Hope the release date doesn't slip too far from what's been announced. Keep it up and we will hopefully see it in a year. 

 

Would be nice to have a proper announcement on Steam too. 

 

We will be creating a page on Steam in the next while.

[Blitzen]

Serious questions about release(s?)

1. Will any of these new aircraft ,like the 190, show up in CLoD DW?

2. Will this be a one time full release ,when it does come in ( maybe) 4th Quarter of '24, or will it be released in "packets " of 3 or 4 aircraft like Great Battles ( BoS,BoM)did initially, adding more aircraft as time went on ( other maps , effects ,ships and vehicles as well?)

3.If so could the initial release with several aircraft be possibly release before late 2024,both to wet the appetite for more & raise funding for same?

Hopefully I'm not asking for too much information so early on.?

[Avimimus]

My question:

 

I noticed that there is no mention of a Do-217E?

 

Dieppe/Jubilee saw the last massed daylight raids by German bombers - and these were Do-217E aircraft...  so it would seem to be important, at least as an AI aircraft (certainly as important as the B-17E, and also symbolicly important as the 'book-end' of daylight bombing).

 

Also, the Fw-190A4/U18 was deployed against shipping during the Dieppe raid... (so that might be another gap).

[FTC_Karaya]

25 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Serious questions about release(s?)

1. Will any of these new aircraft ,like the 190, show up in CLoD DW?

2. Will this be a one time full release ,when it does come in ( maybe) 4th Quarter of '24, or will it be released in "packets " of 3 or 4 aircraft like Great Battles ( BoS,BoM)did initially, adding more aircraft as time went on ( other maps , effects ,ships and vehicles as well?)

3.If so could the initial release with several aircraft be possibly release before late 2024,both to wet the appetite for more & raise funding for same?

Hopefully I'm not asking for too much information so early on.?

 

1. Not sure what you mean. It'll be just like with Tobruk. You can fly any aircraft on any map. I'd assume we will also get tropicalized versions of aircraft that flew in NA.

 

2. Prolly like Tobruk so full release "when it's ready" is what I'm guessing.

[Buzzsaw]

1 minute ago, Avimimus said:

My question:

 

I noticed that there is no mention of a Do-217E?

 

Dieppe/Jubilee saw the last massed daylight raids by German bombers - and these were Do-217E aircraft...  so it would seem to be important, at least as an AI aircraft (certainly as important as the B-17E, and also symbolicly important as the 'book-end' of daylight bombing).

 

Also, the Fw-190A4/U18 was deployed against shipping during the Dieppe raid... (so that might be another gap).

We'd love to have the manpower to do a flyable Do.17/217, but that is just not available. 

 

We will have the new variant Ju-88... A-4.

 

The FW-190A-3 will have the ability to carry bombs.

[deathmisser]

19 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

We'd love to have the manpower to do a flyable Do.17/217, but that is just not available. 

 

We will have the new variant Ju-88... A-4.

 

The FW-190A-3 will have the ability to carry bombs.

One question would the menu be reworked as there are way more planes now. 

 

It's genially hard to navigate around the place 

[ZenBird]

Not going to invest in anything else until VR is implemented.

 

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

Interesting plane set, particularly the addition of the B-17E and the P-51A, two aircraft I did not expect. I figured the 190, Typhoon, and 109G were going to show up eventually. I will admit the 20mm guns blowing up a wing immediately and flipping a locomotive onto its side were a little cartoonish. I still like the general direction this is going though.

Edited September 22, 2023 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck

[Rei-sen]

This looks great. I'm excited to see the AI updates just as much as the new aircraft. 

 

I really hope that unrealistic AI behavior such as it's super fast rolls and evasive movements, ability to notice when player lined up his sights on AI, will be fixed in the 6.0 update. This is crucial for the Single Player part of the sim.