Throttle and gunner malfunctions after buying Kuban.

[GasTeddy]

Haven't been here for a long, long time because of some settings issues, which haven't been able to solve, hope someone knows what to do. I've been browsing topics with search, but didn't find anything similar.   Feb. 1, 2022 I purchased Battle of Bodenplatte Standard Edition. After quite some struggle with settings, I managed to put everything in order except view with joystick hat, which had a tendency to skip front left and front right 45° and jump directly to 90° but that was acceptable. I preordered Sturm III and when it arrived, everything worked fine. Then, Dec. 24, I bought Battle of Kuban Standard Edition and since then throttle and gunner posts haven't worked properly, excluding tank main gun.   Since then, throttle in every plane and tank has had it's own mind. In takeoff with plane and first meters with tank, it works, then it gets crazy.  It jumps up and down, jams to one position, drops to zero, jumps to 100% etc. and does not obey commands.   Gunner posts in bombers, Bf110 and mg of Sturm: When I take the command of a turret or rear gun, I can't turn the gun. When I try, joystick effects the controls of the plane, like I was still sitting on the pilots chair. Guns turn only when I use hat to turn view, to the direction where I look. Aiming is impossible as sights are not in my field of view then and guns turn in 45° intervals.      What have I done so far: Tried with three (3) different sticks (T.16000, TWCS Throttle, Speedlink Black Widow), same results. Programmed everything in keyboard, no help. Did reset to all settings in game and reprogrammed many, many times, no help. Deleted input subfolder in games data folder several times and made new settings, didn't fix the problem. I have also built new pc with different mobo, CPU and GPU while that and transferred game to a brand new quality SSD.   So, any ideas how to fix the problem are more than welcome.

[GasTeddy]

Short update: After latest update I managed to make throttle work in tank settings but got new problem there; Commander in Sturm is looking 45 degrees to left. Cannot make him look straight what ever I do. Weird as it is, in Pzkw III he looks straight ahead. Same settings used in both.

 

In airplane settings, the throttle and turret/rear gun problems still exist and nothing seems to help. As well as with Sturm machine gun in tank settings. So, I'm grounded and doomed to Pzkw III. Must be because of my sins in previous life.    

[Yogiflight]

On 9/18/2023 at 5:59 PM, Perkele...GasTeddy said:

When I try, joystick effects the controls of the plane, like I was still sitting on the pilots chair.

Joystick control for guns only works in vehicles. For the turret guns of aircrafts you have to use the mouse.

[RedeyeStorm]

And for gunners in planes press ‘t’ to take control of gun and I believe ‘CTR+t’ to nestle behind the gunsight and then have your view move with the gun.

[GasTeddy]

Thanks, guys. Shooting with mouse is new thing for me   , always flying hotas in every sim. Have to start studying it. I have programmed turret control and nestle in TWCS throttles button and it works in Sturm main gun but not anywhere else.

 

Now just someone to invent how to make throttle in aircrafts to work normally...   

Edited November 4, 2023 by Perkele...GasTeddy

[Yogiflight]

16 minutes ago, Perkele...GasTeddy said:

Now just someone to invent how to make throttle in aircrafts to work normally... 

On which realism settings are you playing? If on 'Normal' or 'Custom', take a look at the marked settings:

 

 

Your issue might be the 'Throttle auto limit'. I did never try it, but there were players before, who had issues with this key assignement. So either untickle it or use the following keys to turn it off:

 

The 'Automatic RPM limiter should be your problem.

I hope this helps.

[GasTeddy]

Thanks a lot, Yogi! I owe you a beer.   

 

I went through these realism settings and the actual culprit was cruise control. Disabling throttle auto limit fixed part of the problem but after unticking cruise, throttle works normally in both tank and kite settings, in axis and allied contraptions. What comes to aircraft turret control, I think I just stick on the pilot seat.

 

So, gentlemen, there will be easy kills available at online arenas pretty soon, as I will storm the skies with my unlimited skills.

 

Spoiler

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by LukeFF
swastikas

[RedeyeStorm]

That is weird if I may say so. I have cruise control active and by pressing ‘SHF+a’ your plane starts flying level. Everything else works still. I can increase or decrease throttle, mixture etc without issue. Quit helpfull when flightlead and using time acceleration.
 

ps SHF+z/x to turn left/right.

[Yogiflight]

2 hours ago, Perkele...GasTeddy said:

I went through these realism settings and the actual culprit was cruise control. Disabling throttle auto limit fixed part of the problem but after unticking cruise, throttle works normally in both tank and kite settings, in axis and allied contraptions.

 

2 hours ago, Perkele...GasTeddy said:

What comes to aircraft turret control, I think I just stick on the pilot seat.

That is what I am doing, too. In old IL-2 I always manned the reargun to try to defend my plane, but in GB I decided to let it be my AI gunner, who shoots holes in the air

It always helps to be angry on someone else

[GasTeddy]

One more question concerning engine controls; While flying Bf109, I often get warning about low pressure in injection system. Is there a way to fix that? Sometimes my engine just seizes and does not restart, even I've had radiators open, no overheating, fuel left and not flying w/ full throttle.

[Ghost666]

I take it you are flying a G6 late or K series? Next time you are in the plane sitting on the runway press "O" to go to the briefing map. Go to the "specifications" tab and read the operation notes. 

 

Good Luck, Have a nice Fly.  

[GasTeddy]

Yes, thanks Ghost, I'm aware of speciations and I have read them. They mention the pressure, but not if there's a way to lift low one. That was in my mind, if there is some trick to increase pump output or something, as I get low pressure warnings while in cruising rpms in relatively low alt after some 5-10 min flight.

 

Another weird thing has showed up lately. It happens randomly in some servers and maps with Hs129; When I do normal engine starting procedure, engine 1 starts normally. While it is idling and engine 2 starts, engine 1 dies. Then, when I restart it, same happens with engine 2. After several attempts, I get engine damages in both. Haven't figured out, what the heck is causing that, as it's random. Lifting rpm of idling engine while starting the other one does not help.

Edited January 29, 2024 by GasTeddy
Missssspledlled wrods... :gamer:

[Ghost666]

Ok, misunderstood the complexity of the problem. Just took the 109G6late for a spin and got the low pressure message to come up. Flying at "Nominal" speed 1.15ATA (60%)didn't get the message. Flying at "Combat" speed 1.30ATA(80%) didn't get the message. Pushing the throttle up to 83% "Emergency" kicks in. And then at 85/86% I got the low pressure message. Continuing to increase throttle to 95% the MW-50 kicks in and the pressure increases and the message goes away.

 

So yes, there seems to be problem with the message coming up before the MW-50 kicks in. As for your engine seizing up, mine did the same when flown in "Emergency" for more then 1 minute. But with the MW-50 kicked in it lasted 10X as long.

 

My advice ,only fly in Emergency after you have used up the MW-50 and then only in a Emergency and never longer then 1 minute.

 

As for the Hs129, I haven't flown that in a long time so can't help there.

[Yogiflight]

7 hours ago, Ghost666 said:

My advice ,only fly in Emergency after you have used up the MW-50 and then only in a Emergency and never longer then 1 minute.

As far as I remember, the manual of aircrafts, equipped with MW50, was to not use emergency power without MW50. So if you go over climb and combat power (1.3 ata), move your throttle fully forward, so the MW50 gets activated and if your MW50 tank is empty (you don't get the correct boost, according to the boost gauge at the left side), don't use emergency power at all. If you can do it for 1 minute in game, it might be modelled incorrect.

 

12 hours ago, GasTeddy said:

Another weird thing has showed up lately. It happens randomly in some servers and maps with Hs129; When I do normal engine starting procedure, engine 1 starts normally. While it is idling and engine 2 starts, engine 1 dies. Then, when I restart it, same happens with engine 2. After several attempts, I get engine damages in both. Haven't figured out, what the heck is causing that, as it's random. Lifting rpm of idling engine while starting the other one does not help.

This issue was there from beginning. You have to look for the fuel mixture lever (right of the throttle levers, if I am right), it has to be fully forward for engine start. There was a bug, that the lever moved fully backwards when you started the second engine, so the running engine cuts off.

I hope it is right, how I explained the issue, I never experienced it myself.

My guess is this happens, because usually aircrafts with fuel mixture levers have one lever for each engine, which gets moved to engine start position, when you start your engine. So I think the game changes the mixture to the opposite side of where it is, when the engine is not running, which usually is the right position, but as in the Hs 129 there is only one mixture lever forboth engines, which is in the right position after the first engine was started, it gets moved out of this position when starting the second engine.

[Ghost666]

Thank you @Yogiflight, I do believe you are correct. 

[GasTeddy]

Thanks guys, I try to remember boost w/109 and figure out mixture lever function in Hs129. I tested it in one server, where plane is given engines running at runway. Turned them off, waited couple of minutes and restarted. No issue, so it's with cold engines where rich mix is needed.