4090 and Ryzen 9 7950x3D Initial Impressions

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

Specs: 

ASUS TUF Gaming 4090

Ryzen 9 7950x3D

32GB Corsair Vengeance 6000

Gigabyte Aorus Pro AX Motherboard

HP Reverb G2

 

I was too tired to do much testing but I put IL2 on, using Open Composite. All Settings on High with the High preset (except shadows on Medium). No tinkering in Open XR toolkit at all. 

 

My initial impressions are WOW. Wow wow. First of all, the game has never looked better. I held 90 FPS pretty easily on Finnish, with the occasional quick dip to 89, but never any stuttering or tearing, flying low over as much of the front line as possible to get as many things on screen as possible. The haze on the horizon is gone (this was very annoying with my 3090/5800x3D setup before tonight). It just looks and runs great. 

 

And for anyone that was concerned about the game bar handling core allocation: I could see on resource monitor that IL2 was definitely recognized and the cores with v-cache were utilized. I tested a couple 2D games and found the same. Priority is given to the v-cache cores and the rest are parked, although I did see occasional activity (I'm assuming the various background apps I had running and whatever misc services). 

 

I'll get heavy into DCS and MSFS tomorrow but, although the CPU is probably overkill compared to the upcoming 7800x3D, I am very happy with the initial test. 

 

I don't generally do any kind of screen recording or metric-grabbing tool but I did turn on the developer overlay and was seeing consistent 90 fps, 5-7ms aCPU and 5-7ms GPU. I'm not 100% what that means but I'll take it ?

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by TCW_DirtyMike0330
added VR headset

[102nd-YU-cmirko]

please do the tests from 

 

it would be really nice to see CPU and VR tests results from the fastest combo of components at the moment ^^

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

4 hours ago, 102nd-YU-cmirko said:

please do the tests from 

 

it would be really nice to see CPU and VR tests results from the fastest combo of components at the moment ^^

I will do that this afternoon/evening! I am curious myself

[Koziolek]

Damn,

The best and most expensive equipment and only "All Settings on High with the High preset (except shadows on Medium)"

no wonder VR is so unpopular ?

[chiliwili69]

13 hours ago, TCW_DirtyMike0330 said:

although the CPU is probably overkill compared to the upcoming 7800x3D

Take into account that your CPU boost clock is higher than the 7800X3D

 

In any case, we are all very interested to know how those new CPUs compare with the current CPU king for IL-2 (13th gen intel).

[102nd-YU-cmirko]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ryzen-7800x3d-performance-preview/

 

we'll see soon for sure

 

 

p.s. also, new AMD drivers day today ^^

Edited March 1, 2023 by 102nd-YU-cmirko

[chiliwili69]

Very interesintg the "simulation" of the 7800X3D by disabling the CCD1 of the 7950X3D.  (although they didn´t limit the boost speed to 5.0GHz).

What it is really amazing is the low power consumption of this Zen4 line compared with the intel 13th gen. (see below)

 

 

It would be interesting how IL-2 behave for the 7950X3D with both CCDs and with the CCD1 disabled.

The comparison they game for several games (at 720p) is interesting. Some games like Doom Eternal behaves in a very weird way, disabling CCD1 or CCD0 is better that both CCDs:

 

Who knows how IL-2 will behave....

The question is, what will be better for IL-2 in VR:

A- The 7950X3D/7900X3D stock

B- The 7950X3D/7900X3D with the CCD1 disabled

C- The 7800X3D

Edited March 1, 2023 by chiliwili69

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

12 hours ago, 102nd-YU-cmirko said:

please do the tests from 

 

it would be really nice to see CPU and VR tests results from the fastest combo of components at the moment ^^

@chiliwili69 I ran the benchmark twice with the following results:

 

2023-03-01 16:23:28 - Il-2
Frames: 5366 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.433 - Min: 81 - Max: 92

 

2023-03-01 16:25:42 - Il-2
Frames: 5377 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.617 - Min: 82 - Max: 91

 

I was looking at the in-game counter out of the corner of my eye and it held 90 on approach, when it dips into the train station it very briefly dipped to 82 but then recovered back to 90. The experience was smooth and stutter-free throughout. I'm not a numbers guy, so I don't know what that benchmark means per se, but I played on Wings of Liberty for a couple hours today and was rocking 90 fps all over the place with multiple busy targets so I am very happy with the upgrades overall!

 

To clarify my settings:

I am bypassing SteamVR via OpenComposite

I kept SimShaker Wings and OpenXRNeckSafer on in the background as I normally would. 

I have posted my current in-game settings. 

The only tweak I have done in OpenXR Companion app is to increase world scale to 110%, no other changes. 

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

This is a fresh Windows 11 install and I just noticed that I had FXAA x4 on during those benchmarks. I went ahead and ran it a few more times with some other settings:

 

ULTRA PRESET, NO AA, SHADOWS HIGH:

2023-03-01 16:50:19 - Il-2
Frames: 5205 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 86.750 - Min: 70 - Max: 92

 

HIGH PRESET, NO AA, SHADOWS HIGH:

2023-03-01 16:54:27 - Il-2
Frames: 5233 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.217 - Min: 74 - Max: 91

 

HIGH PRESET, HIGH SHADOWS, MSAA x4:

2023-03-01 16:59:44 - Il-2
Frames: 1751 - Time: 24969ms - Avg: 70.127 - Min: 37 - Max: 87

 

HIGH PRESET, MEDIUM SHADOWS, MSAA x2:

2023-03-01 17:01:18 - Il-2
Frames: 5374 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.567 - Min: 83 - Max: 91

 

ULTRA PRESET, HIGH SHADOWS, MSAA x2:

2023-03-01 17:06:12 - Il-2
Frames: 5217 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 86.950 - Min: 76 - Max: 91

 

[T24_Martin]

Thanks! Did you update your chipset?

 

There are multiple news, that this increases performance significantly. 

 

E.g. 

 

 

 

[102nd-YU-cmirko]

9 hours ago, TCW_DirtyMike0330 said:

2023-03-01 16:23:28 - Il-2
Frames: 5366 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.433 - Min: 81 - Max: 92

 

2023-03-01 16:25:42 - Il-2
Frames: 5377 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 89.617 - Min: 82 - Max: 91

 

it would be interesting to see the whole testing suite results from upper link, as Martin said, if you haven't already, you should update the bios of your MB to AGESA V2 1.2.0.8 (it came out a few weeks ago) and install latest AMD chipset drivers (5.02.19.2221) before making performance tests ^^

 

 

 

[chiliwili69]

10 hours ago, TCW_DirtyMike0330 said:

I'm not a numbers guy, so I don't know what that benchmark means per se,

 

First at all, congrats for your new PC and thank you very much for letting us know how it performs and taking the time to run the tests.

 

I see you run the benchmark using your usual settings, and you obtained a very very good performance. The max performance is 90 and you obtained around 89.5 which is very good.

 

But in order to compare performance with other systems and tests of the table, we all run the test using a common set of settings for the CPU test and VR tests. Those settings are described in the SYN_VANDER benchmark post.

The most interesting test is the CPU test which uses a monitor at 1080p (without VR). The other VR test are also interesting specially the VRTest1 and VRtest2. Let me know if something is not clear in the instructions.

The VR tests can be performed using OpenXR instead of SteamVR.

[voodoomom]

Are The Benchmarks in VR?

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

1 hour ago, voodoomom said:

Are The Benchmarks in VR?

Yes, I only ran them in VR

3 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

First at all, congrats for your new PC and thank you very much for letting us know how it performs and taking the time to run the tests.

 

I see you run the benchmark using your usual settings, and you obtained a very very good performance. The max performance is 90 and you obtained around 89.5 which is very good.

 

But in order to compare performance with other systems and tests of the table, we all run the test using a common set of settings for the CPU test and VR tests. Those settings are described in the SYN_VANDER benchmark post.

The most interesting test is the CPU test which uses a monitor at 1080p (without VR). The other VR test are also interesting specially the VRTest1 and VRtest2. Let me know if something is not clear in the instructions.

The VR tests can be performed using OpenXR instead of SteamVR.

Ah got it, I will run through the whole benchmark instead of just the VR

5 hours ago, T24_Martin said:

Thanks! Did you update your chipset?

 

There are multiple news, that this increases performance significantly. 

 

E.g. 

 

 

 

Yep! Chipset and BIOS were all updated when I did the build. I’ll run through the full suite of the benchmark instead of just the VR portions 

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

Since I opened a can of worms and then was very lazy about it, I did the full suite of benchmarks as described and posted them in a new thread for visibility. 

 

 

[voodoomom]

So i think i stay @ AMD

 

I play only il2 in VR. At first i want to switch after 6 years of Amd1800x/3900x/5950x now to intels 13900ks but i think the 7950x3d was now for me the better option.

Edited March 2, 2023 by voodoomom

[Koziolek]

18 hours ago, TCW_DirtyMike0330 said:

This is a fresh Windows 11 install and I just noticed that I had FXAA x4 on during those benchmarks. I went ahead and ran it a few more times with some other settings:

 

ULTRA PRESET, NO AA, SHADOWS HIGH:

2023-03-01 16:50:19 - Il-2
Frames: 5205 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 86.750 - Min: 70 - Max: 92

 

vs

 

ULTRA PRESET, HIGH SHADOWS, MSAA x2:

2023-03-01 17:06:12 - Il-2
Frames: 5217 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 86.950 - Min: 76 - Max: 91

 

this one is interesting, if it is not a mistake. Higher min fps with MSAA x 2

[TCW_DirtyMike0330]

1 minute ago, Koziolek said:

this one is interesting, if it is not a mistake. Higher min fps with MSAA x 2

It’s very possibly a mix up since it was late and I was half-adding it ? The new post has the benchmarking done correctly