The base at Chievres

[Knarley-Bob]

Doesn't seem to be active in battle of Rhineland, it does show a couple green crosses tho................

Just a heads up.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Knarley-Bob

[LukeFF]

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It's an active airfield from January 1945. 

[Knarley-Bob]

 

10 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

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It's an active airfield from January 1945. 

So why show it there when it..........isn't?

[R33GZ]

Possibly an airfield, just no active units. There were plenty like that through France pre Normandy invasion

[Knarley-Bob]

27 minutes ago, R33GZ said:

Possibly an airfield, just no active units. There were plenty like that through France pre Normandy invasion

Showing all the units that would be there someday? Give me a break.

They brag about how historically correct they are, when it's convenient.

[R33GZ]

Ahhh. I thought you meant you could see the airfield label. So you mean it shows aircraft that you own, but you are unable to join the squadron at the airfield? That is a bit weird

[Stonehouse]

From Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-45 Belgium and Luxembourg By Henry L. deZeng IV

 

Chièvres (BELG) (a.k.a. Ath-Chièvres) (50 34 45 N – 03 50 05 E)
General: airfield (Fliegerhorst) in W Belgium 48 km SW of Brussels, 7 km SE of Ath
and 2.5 km E of the Ath-Lens railway.
History: built by the Germans in 1917 during the First World War, rebuilt by the
Belgian Army during the 1930s and captured by the Wehrmacht in May 1940.
Luftwaffe units began using it on 2 June and it became home to Italian Air Force
units from Oct 40 to Jan 41 during the air offensive against England (Battle of
Britain). Major Luftwaffe construction work commenced at the end of 1940 and
included three concrete runways, taxiways, hangars, workshops, barracks, dispersal
areas and other infrastructure. Base utilization was relatively steady to the end of
1942 and then resumed in June 1944.
Dimensions: 1920 x 1325 meters (2100 x 1450 yards).
Surface and Runways: grass and soil surface with 3 concrete runways – (1) 1645
meters (1800 yards) aligned NNE/SSW with assembly hardstand at the N end; (2)
1740 meters (1900 yards) aligned ENE/WSW with assembly hardstands at both
ends; (3) 1645 meters (1800 yards) aligned NW/SE that was still unfinished at the
end of 1942 and had been obstructed. A perimeter road encircled the landing area.
Equipped with runway illumination and boundary lighting, a permanent flarepath, a
beam approach system and visual Lorenz systems.
Fuel and Ammunition: the 4 refueling loops were in the Northeast dispersal, in the
hangar area at the SE corner, off the SE corner and in the West dispersal area.
Ammunition dumps and stores were located in woods and along railway lines within
3,25 km of the airfield.
 
Infrastructure: had 1 large hangar off the E boundary near the SE corner with repair
workshops in each of the dispersal areas. Station HQ and admin offices were in and
near a large block of barrack buildings approx. 1 km off the NW corner. Officers and
air crew were billeted in the Château Bauffe near the SE corner. A large supply
dump that served the airfield was at the Mévergnies railroad station. A light rail
branch connected the station at Mévergnies with the E and W boundaries of the
airfield.
Dispersal: the 3 dispersal areas – Northeast, Southeast and West – had a total of 41
covered and 5 open aircraft shelters.
Defenses: there were 3 heavy and 15 light Flak positions surrounding the airfield
out to a distance of 3.5 km and included several towers for some of the light Flak.
Ground defenses were anchored by 3 fortified strongpoints.
Satellites and Decoys:
Chièvres-Blicquy: dummy set up W of Chièvres airfield near the village of
Blicquy.
Remarks:
10 Nov 43: bombed by approx. 60 B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
29 Nov 43: bombed by 53 B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
1 Dec 43: bombed by approx. 50 B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
23 Feb 44: the NNE/SSW and ENE/WSW runways were seen to be serviceable and
most of the craters on the landing area had been repaired.
2 Mar 44: low-level attack by VIII Fighter Command P-47 Thunderbolts – claimed 2 x
Ju 88s damaged.
15 Mar 44: bombed by B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
11 Apr 44: bombed by B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
13 Apr 44: bombed by B-26 Marauders from 9th AAF.
21 Jun 44: bombed – 2 x Ju 88 A-4s from II./LG 1 destroyed on the ground.
3 Sep 44: captured in heavily damaged condition by advancing Allied troops, repairs
effected and declared operational as Advanced Landing Ground A-84 on 16
September. Used by 9th AAF and II Tactical AF fighter and fighter-bomber units to
the end of the war.
Operational Units (Regia Aeronautica): 98º Gruppo BT (Oct 40 – Jan 41); 99º
Gruppo BT (Oct 40 – Jan 41); 172ª Squadriglia BT (Oct 40 – Jan 41).
Operational Units (Luftwaffe): I./JG 26 (Jun 40); II./JG 26 (May-Jun 40); III./JG 26
(May-Jun 40, Aug 44); II./KG 30 (Sep 40, Jul-Aug 44); Erprobungsstaffel 188 (Jul-
Aug 43); Erprobungsstaffel KG 6 (Aug-Oct 43); I./KG 6 (Jun 43 – Mar 44); II./LG 1
(Jun, Aug 44); II./KG 76 (Jul 44); Einsatzkdo. Schenck (Einsatzkdo./KG 51) (Aug
44).
Reserve Training & Replacement Units: IV./KG 3 (Apr 41 – Dec 42).
Station Commands: Fl.H.Kdtr. E 16/XI Jun 40? – Mar 44); Fl.H.Kdtr. E(v) 214/XI
(Apr-Aug 44).
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): 10. Flugh.Betr.Kp./KG 3 (Mar 41 –
Dec 42); Luftminen-Zug 12 (Jun-Sep 44); le.Flak-Abt. 757 (Sep-Nov 43); elements
of gem.Flak-Abt. 345 (1943-44); elements of le.Flak-Abt. 764 (1943-44);
Ldssch.Zug d.Lw. 89/IV (1942-43); Ldssch.Zug d.Lw. 124/XI (Dec 42, Apr 44).
[Sources: AFHRA A5258 pp.1635-37 (30 Jul 43 updated to 12 Apr 44);
chronologies; BA-MA; NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]

 

 

[Gambit21]

38 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

 Give me a break.

 

 

Done...go take a break...make it as long as you wish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Knarley-Bob]

I know it has to be a tedious job defending this sim. With so many things wrong, for so many years. I do admire your dedication. 

Carry on...................................

[LukeFF]

24 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

I know it has to be a tedious job defending this sim. With so many things wrong, for so many years. I do admire your dedication. 

Carry on...................................

 

Say what?

 

It's always been the case that you can see what airfield a unit occupies when setting up a new career. How else should it be? Randomly clicking on the map while blindfolded?

 

1 hour ago, R33GZ said:

Ahhh. I thought you meant you could see the airfield label. So you mean it shows aircraft that you own, but you are unable to join the squadron at the airfield? That is a bit weird

 

It's really simple - on any given date and when you set up a new career, you can see what units occupy a given airfield, just like in reality. If no unit is there at the time, then it's just an empty marker on the map. I dunno why this is suddenly a contentious issue with certain users.

Edited February 17, 2023 by LukeFF

[Knarley-Bob]

The airfield is there, the placards for the squadron is there, and so are the green + marks, that let one know there are supposed to be planes to fly there. I mentioned that the GREEN + marks don't seem to work. Or do those green +'s not mean anything now? And of course one gets flamers coming out of the woodwork if someone says something.

This site has a real bad habit of treating CUSTOMERS very poorly. Tell ya what, send me back the money I foolishly spent here, and color me gone......................otherwise put up with it.

Edited February 17, 2023 by Knarley-Bob

[Gambit21]

28 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

The airfield is there, the placards for the squadron is there, and so are the green + marks, that let one know there are supposed to be planes to fly there. I mentioned that the GREEN + marks don't seem to work. Or do those green +'s not mean anything now? And of course one gets flamers coming out of the woodwork if someone says something.

This site has a real bad habit of treating CUSTOMERS very poorly. Tell ya what, send me back the money I foolishly spent here, and color me gone......................otherwise put up with it.

There’s a way to do things, and a way to address the Devs if you want help or feedbacks.  If you believe there’s a bug, there’s a place for that, and a way to do it.

 

I’m not quite sure what you’re hoping to accomplish here.

 

 

 

[Knarley-Bob]

43 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

There’s a way to do things, and a way to address the Devs if you want help or feedbacks.  If you believe there’s a bug, there’s a place for that, and a way to do it.

 

I’m not quite sure what you’re hoping to accomplish here.

 

 

 

The OP was simple, to the point and polite. Why everything turns into such trauma is beyond me. The hostility towards customers is beyond comprehension. I have gotten nothing but a hard time trying to deal with things here, and I am weary of the crap. You want me gone? You know the deal.

 

Knarley Bob

[Gambit21]

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

The OP was simple, to the point and polite.

 

It was...just in the wrong place if you genuinely expect to to help anything.

 

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

 

Why everything turns into such trauma is beyond me.

 

Look at your own behavior?

 

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

 

The hostility towards customers is beyond comprehension.

 

From what I've seen historically, these Devs are responsive and helpful so long as your A. are not rude, B. go through channels.

You did neither here.

 

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

 

I have gotten nothing but a hard time trying to deal with things here,

 

Perhaps look at how you choose to engage others/the Devs here? Just spit-balling.

 

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

 

and I am weary of the crap.

 

I'm so sorry.

 

9 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said:

You want me gone? You know the deal.

 

 

I have no desire to see you gone, but I hope your weariness is assuaged soon.

It must be difficult to be so correct while other people are the entire problem all the time.

 

Have a most pleasant evening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, Knarley-Bob said:

The airfield is there, the placards for the squadron is there, and so are the green + marks, that let one know there are supposed to be planes to fly there. I mentioned that the GREEN + marks don't seem to work. Or do those green +'s not mean anything now? And of course one gets flamers coming out of the woodwork if someone says something.

This site has a real bad habit of treating CUSTOMERS very poorly. Tell ya what, send me back the money I foolishly spent here, and color me gone......................otherwise put up with it.

 

How about posting some screenshots so we know what the heck you're talking about? 

[RedeyeStorm]

If I translate correctly I believe he means that in career the airfield shows squadrons you can join as a player. The have the green crosses in front of there names. AI only units do not have does green crosses. When he clicks the green crosses he doesn’t get the option to join that squadron. 

[sevenless]

3 minutes ago, RedeyeStorm said:

If I translate correctly I believe he means that in career the airfield shows squadrons you can join as a player. The have the green crosses in front of there names. AI only units do not have does green crosses. When he clicks the green crosses he doesn’t get the option to join that squadron. 

 

But you CAN join every unit on that airfield with a green cross. First non-AI active units start to appear at Chievres  in the timeframe "autumn offensive". From then on there are 2 or 3 active units joinable on that airfield.

 

[RedeyeStorm]

Hey just trying to translate. I have no idea if his claim is correct, or my translation. 

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, RedeyeStorm said:

Hey just trying to translate. I have no idea if his claim is correct, or my translation. 

 

His claim is incorrect, as @sevenless has shown. It has always been the case that if a unit has a green cross next to it and you own a plane in said unit, you can fly for that unit.

[Gambit21]

OP about now…
 

[Knarley-Bob]

Go to Pilot careers, Fighting in the low countries , 17 .09.1944 to 01 .10 1944.

Look at the base in or by Chievres, in about the center of the placards, one green + is the 9th and just to the left, on a yellow placard there is another green +.

On my computer, they do not activate anything. Normally they will show an airplane with a padlock if one doesn't own that plane. Why they are there is anyone's guess.

[Knarley-Bob]

43 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

OP about now…
 

And how you treat your customers..................I rest my case

[FuriousMeow]

Wow. When it's you perceiving everyone out to get you maybe its not them but the common denominator.

 

Also, Gambit is a customer too.

[Ghost666]

4 hours ago, Knarley-Bob said:

Go to Pilot careers, Fighting in the low countries , 17 .09.1944 to 01 .10 1944.

Look at the base in or by Chievres, in about the center of the placards, one green + is the 9th and just to the left, on a yellow placard there is another green +.

On my computer, they do not activate anything. Normally they will show an airplane with a padlock if one doesn't own that plane. Why they are there is anyone's guess.

Those 2 units are c-47 units and if you own the c-47 you can join the unit.

[Gambit21]

[Knarley-Bob]

Apologies to all, sorry I blew up.

 

KB

[IckyATLAS]

Apologies accepted.

Errare humanum est (part1) ...... sed perseverare diabolicum (less known part 2 just in case ?).

[Lusekofte]

On 2/18/2023 at 5:42 PM, Knarley-Bob said:

Apologies to all, sorry I blew up.

 

KB

I take that as compassion. We all been there. 
It is a question of wording. 
No real harm done. Just to be clear, Luke knows the lot about careers, and if he knows what the problem is, he will help. If he do not give any answers, the rule is he either misunderstood your question but most often you did not bring enough information to the table

[czech693]

Sevenless, how did you get a P-39 on your plane list?

[migmadmarine]

3 hours ago, czech693 said:

Sevenless, how did you get a P-39 on your plane list?

There are a few mods to change what aircraft are available when, probably using one of them.

[sevenless]

6 hours ago, czech693 said:

Sevenless, how did you get a P-39 on your plane list?

 

Easy. I modded it into BoBP. Here: