Thoughts about new wing DM

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I'm gonna test it tonight, but I'm curious what you guys experienced so far.

[Trooper117]

Yep, very interested to find out about this...  

[Wardog5711]

If you are on Discord, the FC guys have been pretty excited about the updates. They posted some before and after charts:

 

https://discord.com/channels/1015218984313946173/1030691613585981552/1044759048383385631

[BMA_Hellbender]

1 hour ago, Wardog5711 said:

If you are on Discord, the FC guys have been pretty excited about the updates. They posted some before and after charts:

 

https://discord.com/channels/1015218984313946173/1030691613585981552/1044759048383385631

 

Wardog, honestly, thank you for listening to the community and getting the right people at 1CGS involved in making this happen. As someone who was marginally involved (and not at all with data collection), I do know just how much effort was put into the research and compilation of the data by the community members who got this to you. It dwarfs and puts to shame any of the posting I've ever done on the topic of the N28 maneuverability (but hey, just in case, here it is).

 

If the results are as promising as what I've been led to believe, these DM fixes may very well save FC multiplayer from an untimely death, and I think is enough repayment for the hours those people sunk into this effort. I know that it's not possible to "win" at this sim, unless we're talking about nursing a streak in a SPAD to over 100, but in my opinion they've earned FC's highest possible accolade.

 

P.S. Also unrelated but here goes anyway: Ypres is on the map now, I demand respectfully request the Hanriot HD.1 be added to the roster.

[Trooper117]

A Hanriot in High Definition eh?... it might happen! 

[TheSaxman]

3 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

If you are on Discord, the FC guys have been pretty excited about the updates. They posted some before and after charts:

 

https://discord.com/channels/1015218984313946173/1030691613585981552/1044759048383385631

 

Hm, I can't see it. I just get a "No Text Channels" error.

[Wardog5711]

Thanks, but I can't take any credit for that. Regingrave and his team are the stars of the show. Along with the dedicated core of FC players that gathered the data and wouldn't let it fade away.  All I did was make some inquiries as to where things were at. 

 

Anyhow, here are the pre-damaged graphs.

 

 

And the Post-damage graph

 

 

[No.23_Starling]

Flying Circus is back!

 

Fights last night were incredible and back to when the game first launched. Such fantastic news. Thank you to all those involved in this update.

[DD_Arthur]

37 minutes ago, US103_Rummell said:

Flying Circus is back!

 

Fights last night were incredible and back to when the game first launched. Such fantastic news. Thank you to all those involved in this update.

Really?! That is fantastic news.

Right….time to put MSFS away and get the Rift dusted off…

[No.23_Starling]

2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Really?! That is fantastic news.

Right….time to put MSFS away and get the Rift dusted off…

Dude, three of us scrapped in Dvas and SPADs down several thousand feet, snap rolling and diving exchanging hits on wings all the way down. It was the most intense and fun fight I have had in 3 years. Most of the kills I saw last night were ppl who were PKd or flamed / lost their engines, in line with Hotlead’s historical report.

 

The game now rewards still and aim, not a lucky wing hit. 
 

Spread the word!!!

[Wardog5711]

I have passed your comments on to the people that made this happen so that they know their efforts are appreciated.

 

[Holtzauge]

Welcome news indeed! This fine simulator just took another big step towards greater realism!

[BMA_Hellbender]

5 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

Dude, three of us scrapped in Dvas and SPADs down several thousand feet, snap rolling and diving exchanging hits on wings all the way down. It was the most intense and fun fight I have had in 3 years. Most of the kills I saw last night were ppl who were PKd or flamed / lost their engines, in line with Hotlead’s historical report.

 

The game now rewards still and aim, not a lucky wing hit. 
 

Spread the word!!!

 

Hear, hear!

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

5 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

Dude, three of us scrapped in Dvas and SPADs down several thousand feet, snap rolling and diving exchanging hits on wings all the way down. It was the most intense and fun fight I have had in 3 years. Most of the kills I saw last night were ppl who were PKd or flamed / lost their engines, in line with Hotlead’s historical report.

 

The game now rewards still and aim, not a lucky wing hit. 
 

Spread the word!!!

 

oh crap, I'm screwed

[Trooper117]

Right, I just might give this shebang another go then...

[ACG_Bussard]

That's good to hear. I'll probably flying in biplanes more often in the future!

 

p:s: If only the no man's land would be represented decently on the new map  

[No.23_Starling]

22 minutes ago, 2./JG3_Bussard* said:

That's good to hear. I'll probably flying in biplanes more often in the future!

 

p:s: If only the no man's land would be represented decently on the new map  

New maps are in the works. The fine gents at IRFC are on it. The special event they ran last month was superb with the server maxing out!

1 hour ago, J5_Klugermann said:

 

oh crap, I'm screwed

Don’t worry, we will still be killed in friendly flying accidents….

[J2_Bidu]

7 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

Most of the kills I saw last night were ppl who were PKd or flamed / lost their engines, in line with Hotlead’s historical report.

What happened last night was completely unhistorical. For one, 1PL_Husar wasn't flying in 1918. Bug report submitted.

[No.23_Starling]

1 hour ago, J2_Bidu said:

What happened last night was completely unhistorical. For one, 1PL_Husar wasn't flying in 1918. Bug report submitted.

Says the man whose DXII kept its wings! That’s totally ahistorical

[J2_Bidu]

25 minutes ago, US103_Rummell said:

Says the man whose DXII kept its wings! That’s totally ahistorical

More than that! I dived steeply on a Spad with a pretty shot up Albatros and it kept his wings! What was I thinking?

[No.23_Starling]

26 minutes ago, J2_Bidu said:

More than that! I dived steeply on a Spad with a pretty shot up Albatros and it kept his wings! What was I thinking?

Take the extra Lewis… 

[J2_Bidu]

14 minutes ago, US103_Rummell said:

Take the extra Lewis… 

 

I had it! I know what you mean, the extra weight is a killer when you pull. Still, I survived.

[TheSaxman]

11 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

Dude, three of us scrapped in Dvas and SPADs down several thousand feet, snap rolling and diving exchanging hits on wings all the way down. It was the most intense and fun fight I have had in 3 years. Most of the kills I saw last night were ppl who were PKd or flamed / lost their engines, in line with Hotlead’s historical report.

 

The game now rewards still and aim, not a lucky wing hit. 
 

Spread the word!!!

I do have a question about the fires.

 

A few months ago, I set a Dr.I's engine on fire. Watched him pull straight up and he exploded a moment later. Any time I saw a plane light on fire, it went kaboom within a few seconds.

 

Then after the damage model update that broke the wings, I actually started seeing MORE fires, but would then watch them fly around for several minutes blazing like a Ronson before a wing snapped off. I stopped seeing planes esplode after being lit up.

 

I haven't tried the latest patch, but was something changed with how fire was modeled?

Edited November 25, 2022 by TheSaxman

[US103_Baer]

4 hours ago, TheSaxman said:

 

I haven't tried the latest patch, but was something changed with how fire was modeled?

 

Fires are still dodgy. Simple for a human pilot to extinguish. 

It needs to be addressed and bug reports have been made.  Actually I should say,  it was addressed a couple of updates ago for WW2, but whatever changes they made had NO effect on Flying Circus.

 

@US103_Rummellis spot on. FC is legit back.

 

@J5_Klugermann time to lose the Dr1.  It made you butt look big anyway ? 

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

14 hours ago, TheSaxman said:

Then after the damage model update that broke the wings, I actually started seeing MORE fires, but would then watch them fly around for several minutes blazing like a Ronson before a wing snapped off. I stopped seeing planes esplode after being lit up.

From statistical point of view, during late war when fires were common , possible to greater use of incendiary ammunition. In the game we don't have that. We also don't have now incrised risk of catching fire when there is fuel leakage or vapor explosion in gas tank.
I don't see any explosion as use to be after a while . No ammunition explosion, no fuel tank fires nither tank explsion. Fire from engine do not propagate to fuel tank, ammuniton. 
I miss than dynamic in current FC build. 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

6 hours ago, US103_Baer said:

@J5_Klugermann time to lose the Dr1.  It made you butt look big anyway ? 

I doubt anything he flies would change that.?

[Trooper117]

Careful you lot... someone will report you to  the big butt relations board!

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

11 hours ago, US103_Baer said:

 

@J5_Klugermann time to lose the Dr1.  It made you butt look big anyway ? 

 

 

I need a big butt to absorb all of those big rounds that you fire.  Baeumer forbade me to fly the best German planes cause he was afraid I would empty the servers. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by J5_Klugermann

[US41_Low]

Thank you to the devs and community. Awesome stuff. I’ll see you in the skies soon. 
 

Hoping FC2 gets on steam soon id rather buy it there just cause I’m ocd ? 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

HUGE improvement.  Many thanks to the Devs for their work improving this aspect of the game.