Can this be cleared up please...

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

What are the most popular YouTube videos about il2 - Renzik il2 crashes. Boy's do like watch how stuff blow up . Plane dm model is nice, could be better but it is dynamic and based on physic. Do the same with environment, ground objects and this would make a difference and attract new and old bored players. 

Edited January 19, 2023 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[76IAP-Black]

Don't forget, a flightsim is a Sandbox game. 

Compare it with DCS, or even Arma3, if you load the Editor, place some units on the map and press play, it remains sterile 

[DD_Friar]

If you are talking about the editor in IL2, its open the editor, make you changes, save the file, close the editor, run up IL2, wait for it to load, get to create server for a local test of your map or run a single mission. Check your map change. You messed up. Close out of the game, open the editor, rinse, repeat.

 

I like many are desperate to continue playing GBS and TANK CREW. (nudge nudge wink wink) I would love to see advances in the game, I do not want to start buying into another version of GBS where all of the things I own in GBS would be lost.

 

and.....Forgive me St Oleg for I have sinned, I have already started allocating some of my disposable income to DCS...

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by DD_Friar

[Bonnot]

33 minutes ago, DD_Friar said:

If you are talking about the editor in IL2, its open the editor, make you changes, save the file, close the editor, run up IL2, wait for it to load, get to create server for a local test of your map or run a single mission. Check your map change. You messed up. Close out of the game, open the editor, rinse, repeat.

 

Oh Yes,,,,, so much boring I forgot any idea of using this editor after hours of collapsing breakdown......( maybe I'm just too dumb ? )

Nevertheless Editor was in many  wargames one of my favorite part option :  In SPWW2 xxx, OOB, Battle Academy, FoG xx, ARMA xxx, Squad Leader, Napoleonics , I enjoyed creating scens and play them _ One can often create and play direct from Editor to test, do a simple, small scen maybe ready in 15" to try an hypothetical move or the effectiveness of new materials.

There, I don't feel so dumb and exasperated,  so may I suspect IL2 of an hostile curse on me* ?  ?

 

*...and DD_Friar, any other victims ?

Edited January 19, 2023 by Bonnot

[DD_Friar]

@Bonnot. Ah, bless you my child. Here at the Priory of St Oleg we look upon all of the IL2 flock in favourable terms, you are safe.

[JG7_X-Man]

Well since the folks that were working on Starfield and Halo are out of work - someone should ping them.

 

https://www.gamesradar.com/halo-and-starfield-devs-reportedly-affected-by-microsofts-10000-layoffs/

Edited January 19, 2023 by JG7_X-Man

[Lusekofte]

10 hours ago, drewm3i-VR said:

This was...3, 4 months ago now? I'd personally, like many others here, like to hear something...

Yeah thing is. We bought a product we have received except some collector stuff. We have the product in our hands. Their obligation is mostly over. We cannot demand anything more. 
I have for my sake nothing in that regard to complain about, they given me the product they said they would. I am not in favour for the direction it has taken, but they have not lied to me. 
What you talk about is further sales. The expectation we and they have. 
Is it smart? Not to keep us warm? 
No, in mine and probably your opinion it is not. 
Do they have a choice?

I think not, to me it seems like they are running two shows. How to earn money in what we got, and finance this «new thing»

Simple answer must be they do not know yet 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Lusekofte

[CountZero]

21 minutes ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Well since the folks that were working on Starfield and Halo are out of work - someone should ping them.

 

https://www.gamesradar.com/halo-and-starfield-devs-reportedly-affected-by-microsofts-10000-layoffs/

who need devs when you have chatmecodeagameAI and add bostondinamoco as player your set of to Ai making games for AIs and forums full of chat AIs ?

 

 

[DragonDaddy]

There are ambitious goals ahead, and the team is gathering strength and resources to reach them. Here’s what we have planned for the next year:
1. Bring the production of the new large-scale project to full speed;
2. Complete the development of a number of new base technologies for the new project, which we started working on last year already;
3. Develop new approaches to the user experience in the next project, taking into account all the previous experience (both our own and that of our competitors);
4. Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;
5. Add new employees to the team, increasing the number of team members by 1.5 times in total;
6. Establish partnerships with teams and enthusiasts who will help us in the development of the Great Battles world, as well as in the creation of content for the new project.

 

Has it ever been mentioned that the “new large-scale project” is in fact a flight sim? Nowhere in the above goals do the words “flight sim” appear. 

[dburne]

No there is quite a bit that apparently has not been mentioned, hence the reason for these type of threads. Clear as mud I would say.

[CountZero]

18 minutes ago, DragonDaddy said:

There are ambitious goals ahead, and the team is gathering strength and resources to reach them. Here’s what we have planned for the next year:
1. Bring the production of the new large-scale project to full speed;
2. Complete the development of a number of new base technologies for the new project, which we started working on last year already;
3. Develop new approaches to the user experience in the next project, taking into account all the previous experience (both our own and that of our competitors);
4. Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;
5. Add new employees to the team, increasing the number of team members by 1.5 times in total;
6. Establish partnerships with teams and enthusiasts who will help us in the development of the Great Battles world, as well as in the creation of content for the new project.

 

Has it ever been mentioned that the “new large-scale project” is in fact a flight sim? Nowhere in the above goals do the words “flight sim” appear. 

in that enigma video they talk about it as flying thing so we guess its still air sim, and best guess where it will be for no is Korea

[BraveSirRobin]

9 hours ago, Robli said:

 

Well, if I knew that even a few hours are important for my customers to avoid meltdowns then I would probably do something about it instead of ignoring the issue for months. 

 

No, you wouldn't.  Next time you would not tell anyone that you had made a decision, you would just announce the product when you were fully ready.  It makes no sense to run your business based on how the toddlers are reacting.

[Trooper117]

Calling people toddlers just because you don't like other peoples views, using again your passive/aggressive bias just shows exactly who is acting like a playground bully BSR... just give it a rest.

This thread is about finding out if our existing content will be in any way compatible with the new project... they would not be announcing the new project, they would not be giving any competitor information ahead of time. Yet after weeks and weeks there is no response just to confirm if things will be compatible or not.

[ROCKET_KNUT]

Announce when ready? That might be years of silence then... And remember, the company needs those toddlers money, doesn´t it?  

[Livai]

2 hours ago, DragonDaddy said:

1. Bring the production of the new large-scale project to full speed;

 

 

Sounds like

 

-> New Game

-> New Game Engine

-> Incompatible with Great Battles

 

2 hours ago, DragonDaddy said:

4. Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;

 

 

Sounds like

 

-> They not drop Great Battles

[BraveSirRobin]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

Calling people toddlers just because you don't like other peoples views, using again your passive/aggressive bias just shows 

 

You directed a pretty disgusting homophobic slur at me because you disagreed with me about something, so maybe you should sit this one out.

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

This thread is about finding out if our existing content will be in any way compatible with the new project... 

 

That info will probably be included in the press release/announcement.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

5 minutes ago, Livai said:

Sounds like

 

-> They not drop Great Battles

 

 

Obviously they won't. Why should they? None of the three IL-2 games have been dropped by the rights owners of the "IL-2 Sturmovik" label. We are in 2023 and anyone still can purchase digital copies of either '46, Cliffs of Dover or Great Battles. The latter is the main source of income for the rights owners... but '46 costs something like 8, 9 or 10 bucks in third-party selling websites so if it still can produce one buck from time to time... why should '46 end up as dropped abandonware? Same thing with the "new project" and "Great Battles". In the case the "new project" is a completely new game, "Great Battles" won't be dropped, it will coexist with the "new project" until it becomes a secondary source of income... again... provided that the "new project"... 1) is a new game and, 2) the new game is a success.

 

PS : BraveSirRobin, your joke is not welcome, everybody got, you yourself included, what Trooper meant by "passive/agressive"... so please, spare us this kind of pun...

 

 

[Bonnot]

Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;

 

To be fair, I must add that if I dislike the Editor, I enjoy the most the FLIGHT RECORDS, Cameras and photo capture of IL2  !

So I hope improvements or changes -if they come- will not change these options, save for minor adjustments ....

[BraveSirRobin]

2 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

PS : BraveSirRobin, your joke is not welcome, everybody got, you yourself included, what Trooper meant by "passive/agressive"... so please, spare us this kind of pun...

 

 

 

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

 

And I'm not joking.  Not even a little.

 

I suspect you did not see the post I'm talking about.

[PatrickAWlson]

4 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Well since the folks that were working on Starfield and Halo are out of work - someone should ping them.

 

https://www.gamesradar.com/halo-and-starfield-devs-reportedly-affected-by-microsofts-10000-layoffs/

 

From what I can see they did not lay off Starfield developers or any programmers at Bethesda.  They cut other staff like PR, etc.  Goes without saying htat I don't have allof the info, so maybe they did cut Bethesda developers, but at the moment there is no indication of it.

[Trooper117]

BSR is right in this case Kintaro... I did give him a bit of grief in a previous post.

[Livai]

39 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Obviously they won't. Why should they? None of the three IL-2 games have been dropped by the rights owners of the "IL-2 Sturmovik" label. We are in 2023 and anyone still can purchase digital copies of either '46, Cliffs of Dover or Great Battles. The latter is the main source of income for the rights owners... but '46 costs something like 8, 9 or 10 bucks in third-party selling websites so if it still can produce one buck from time to time... why should '46 end up as dropped abandonware? Same thing with the "new project" and "Great Battles". In the case the "new project" is a completely new game, "Great Battles" won't be dropped, it will coexist with the "new project" until it becomes a secondary source of income... again... provided that the "new project"... 1) is a new game and, 2) the new game is a success.

 

While some might see the IL-2 name and immediately assume it has something to do with simulation, that's not always the case. As example "Il-2 Sturmovik Birds of Prey"

[Trooper117]

19 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

The Adventures of Brave Sir Robin ?

 

OK, now that that is over with, do we have any clarity by page 15?  I think not, but maybe I missed something.

 

Monty Python always gave me quite a bit of clarity...

 

 

[Trooper117]

C'mon lads... let's call it a day eh?

[Wardog5711]

Quote

C'mon lads... let's call it a day eh?

 

That's a very good idea. 

It's should be fairly obvious to everyone by now that until Loft and Han give the go-ahead to start posting updates, or they do it themselves that nothing is going to be posted. I cannot give you something I do not have, and they aren't ready to show it off yet,

Getting pissy with each other is not going to change that. 

And yes, the folks above me are well aware of these threads.

I've left this and a couple of other threads open because some folks apparently don't have much else going on other than hanging out on the forum and messing with each other. As long as it stayed good natured, I was willing to let it play out.

But if the personal attacks continue, we can change course and try it another way. 

 

[DD_Arthur]

6 hours ago, CountZero said:

 

 

Bloody hell!  Is it just me or did anyone else feel a frisson of fear whilst watching that?

[MisterSmith]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

C'mon lads... let's call it a day eh?

 

Third Aye, and the motion passes. Tread lightly going forward gents.

 

Smith

[CountZero]

44 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Bloody hell!  Is it just me or did anyone else feel a frisson of fear whilst watching that?

dont worry hes just there to help and dance  shurly , its just next stage of evolution of life on earth, dinos, apes, and then tosters

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by CountZero

[sevenless]

54 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Bloody hell!  Is it just me or did anyone else feel a frisson of fear whilst watching that?

 

I get some RoboCop vibes by that.

 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

I started a new thread for the off topic:

 

[DD_Arthur]

2 hours ago, CountZero said:

dont worry hes just there to help and dance  shurly , its just next stage of evolution of life on earth, dinos, apes, and then tosters

 

 
Lol lots?

[Guest deleted@83466]

This is a video game.

[RossMarBow]

17 hours ago, DD_Friar said:

If you are talking about the editor in IL2, its open the editor, make you changes, save the file, close the editor, run up IL2, wait for it to load, get to create server for a local test of your map or run a single mission. Check your map change. You messed up. Close out of the game, open the editor, rinse, repeat.

 

I like many are desperate to continue playing GBS and TANK CREW. (nudge nudge wink wink) I would love to see advances in the game, I do not want to start buying into another version of GBS where all of the things I own in GBS would be lost.

 

and.....Forgive me St Oleg for I have sinned, I have already started allocating some of my disposable income to DCS...

 

Bro I tried out DCS.
I bought the Syria map 50% off cause you have to buy something to join most servers.
DCS was so disappointing at least from a multiplayer perspective.
Massive performance issues and massive DM issues. 
Theirs lots of issues and they all combine together to just make the game bad.  
One issue that stood out was they can't use bullet firing AAA in multiplayer because the game doesn't cull shells. So after an hour of gameplay the server is tracking the position of 10,000 bullets lying on the ground. 
I was amazed at how bad the core systems of the game are.
The only thing holding it above water at the moment is the third party devs, but a lot of them do a bad job too.
 

Personally I think the majority of DCS players have spent too much money on the game, and just keep playing it because of the sunk cost fallacy. 
Though to be fair it basically is the only jet sim around.
Personally I couldn't play WT longer than a few hours, but if I wanted to fly jets and shoot missiles (which I don't) you might as well just play WT they do a much better job and the core game play for a2a missile combat is the same.

Overall playing DCS made me question the sanity of DCS players. I would never look one straight in the eye again or let one date my daughter. 
And honest DCS players understand and support this decision. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by RossMarBow

[Robli]

14 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

Next time you would not tell anyone that you had made a decision, you would just announce the product when you were fully ready.  It makes no sense to run your business based on how the toddlers are reacting.

 

You clearly don't know me, but even "next time we are silent" is some kind of decision, so that is possible. Anyway, next time is irrelevant this time. If I had set my house on fire, I would not just sit and watch and think that next time I will not set it on fire.

[Trooper117]

15 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Bloody hell!  Is it just me or did anyone else feel a frisson of fear whilst watching that?

 

Watch all of this video on the progression of intelligent AI... then hope it never marries up with the other video you have just watched.

 

 

[sevenless]

59 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

 

Watch all of this video on the progression of intelligent AI... then hope it never marries up with the other video you have just watched.

 

 

 

This SkyNet stuff we all might know from the Terminator franchise seems to be closer than we might think. Scary.

[BraveSirRobin]

7 hours ago, Robli said:

 

You clearly don't know me, but even "next time we are silent" is some kind of decision, so that is possible. Anyway, next time is irrelevant this time. If I had set my house on fire, I would not just sit and watch and think that next time I will not set it on fire.

Yes, you should totally treat the announcement of a new video game as if it were the same as your house being on fire.  I, on the other hand, chose to go golfing while I wait.  I’ll probably do a lot of the same next week. 

[Livai]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

Watch all of this video on the progression of intelligent AI...

 

 -> Bet that, It is much easier to dumb-down every computer to human levels of intelligently than to teach the AI to be intelligent or teaching AI humour...............???

[spreckair]

So, if you want to defeat ChatGPT, just ask it to provide the code of a WWII flight sim that perfectly replicates the real world WWII air combat and meets the expectation of 90% of real world users.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Can someone please clear up whether or not the new project is a stand alone new GB series or not?