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Pico4 vs Index vs Monitor(4K&FullHD) - Through the lens pictures


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I have been taking a number of pictures with a camera as in previous reviews

The %SS for the Index is 166% 2596x2884 per eye = 15Milllion pixels (the Index panel resolution is 1440x1600)

The %SS for the Pico4 is 100% 2736x2736 per eye = 15Million pixels  (the Pico4 panel resolution is 2160x2160)

The Pico4 uses HVEC codec at Ultra and 150Mbps.

All raw and crops can be downloaded from here.

All the track files used can be downloaded from there:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qi8otQTUNT3a5ZMipH6kwU5i52TiSpkk/view?usp=share_link

The IL-2 setting are below:

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These are resized pictures in jpg to be in the 5Mb limit of the post.

 

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Here some more pictures to compare spot and ID.

For the Pico and Index I took around 10 pics each and choose the best defined. The original pics can be downloaded from first post.

The crops has been done using the original png and saved as png to not loose details in the composed image.

Below is the spot test for 4xAr234-B2 at 11Km and 4xHeinkels at 9-10Km:

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Below is a ID test:

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Here some croped pictures of the B25:

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Here some croped pictures of the cabin of Bf-110:

 

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Some more pictures from a firing Heinkel:

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Amazing - thanks so much for taking the time to do this!

While the move away from Fresnel is exciting the only compelling upgrade options to my G2 are the Crystal and Aero currently - at least that's my opinion from seeing Pico 4 through the lens images like this.

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Yeah, my Reverb G2 is still satisfying my VR experience just fine… but if my 4th G2 cable goes bad I may need to figure out a way to get a Pico 4 here in the US.

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Wow, that's impressive one can see the wing plane form and their attitudes from 9 Klicks out.  That is definitely valuable visual information getting delivered.

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17 hours ago, Thorne said:

Amazing - thanks so much for taking the time to do this!

While the move away from Fresnel is exciting the only compelling upgrade options to my G2 are the Crystal and Aero currently - at least that's my opinion from seeing Pico 4 through the lens images like this

 

I had to do it. Just to have somehow facts about what my eyes see each time I test the Index and the Pico4. I need to decide what to do.

Definetly the pancake lenses are very clear and is the way to go, but there are still some items from Pico that doesn´t convice at all (wifi&VD thing, charge batteries, comfort, auido).

If the Pico4 would use a proper DP cable, then for sure I would pick the Pico4. The comfort and audio issues are solvable.

 

IMHO, the Pico4 advantage over the G2 is the Edge-to-edge clarity and better FOV. But this might be not enough for some people to upgrade.

I didn´t pick the Aero because the small vertical FOV.

For the Crystal I will wait for reviews first. I don´t want to be again a guinea pig for Pimax.

My hopes are in the future Deckard.

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16 hours ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Wow, that's impressive one can see the wing plane form and their attitudes from 9 Klicks out.  That is definitely valuable visual information getting delivered.

 

Indeed, I was also surprised about that. How a wingspan of 22.6 m can be seen from 9Km away.

Let make some trigo:

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Assuming the plane is pointing to the observer, the visual arc is 0.142 degrees.

 

The average ppd of the Index is about 15, that is 1600/106

The average ppd of the Pico4 is about 21, that is 2160/102

 

So for the Index that arc is 2.15 pixels, and for the Pico4 that arc is 3 pixels.

 

But the distribution of the pixels is not the same along the FOV, there are more pixels in the center than in the sides.

 

It seems that it is using about 5 o 6 pixels of the display, but I really don´t know the real distribution of pixels along the FOV of any device.

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I would really appreciate it if you could post a few comparison shots looking at cockpit instruments, perhaps with urbanized scenery in the background?

 

I'm particularly confused by this (Pico-Index-G2):

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That's the capture from Tyriel in which he messed up the focus - it's not representative. You can tell by the chromatic abberation added in the picture, his camera messed up.

 

Look at the comparison of Elite Dangerous starting at the 10:51 minute mark if you look at that video.

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thanks for this comparison. i am interested in the toss up between the g2 and the pico: coming down to lenses and ppd, the g2 has a sharper centre but the pico is less blurry overall, which means less head movement. so it seems, anyway.

On 11/7/2022 at 4:02 AM, [CPT]Crunch said:

one can see the wing plane form and their attitudes from 9 Klicks out. 

i believe they are impostor textures for VR which some servers dont have on. i get the same effect on my lenovo explorer. its not very useful for ID or ranging, but very good for alerting you to other planes, whatever they are, so long as its more than about 5000m away.

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