The "Who's still here?" question.

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

2 hours ago, Bloyamind said:

Sorry to bother you, and I know this is not the place, so mods, feel free to remove this post if necessary, but it's driving me nuts after a few hours of fiddling around. TWC has players online. I see they are online in the TWC discord which I managed to join, but non of the voice channels has anybody. Where to find them? That's question nr. 1. 2: I joined the server to try figure it out but it starts me off with a message that i'm low on fuel and something about HQ. That scared me right back out of the server, because it's the first time i've seen something like this in the game. What does this mean and is it something I can practice offline? If HQ is on the ground at the airfield I chose... Also the briefing is really daunting, but the briefing for the allies, who I want to join is different only shows updates of what has happened. 

Can someone help me out or send me to the right topic to discuss this? Thanks.

 

edit: a user pointed me to the ATAG TS, as you did. But same goes for over there. 

Like I wrote in my second post, if people are online on comms, they will probably be on ATAG’s Teamspeak channel (it’s just how it is, carried over from when only the ATAG server was around). I’ve only been on TWC’s discord when I was talking to one of them but not for flying proper.

 

And also like Eazy said, nah, that’s just some server dynamics, usually blue’s fuel depots get bombed and we are stuck with less fuel… 

 

TS notifier needs an entry in its config file for CloD for it to show up in game if I still got it right in my head. It’s been a while since I set it up and ended up disabling it because it was crashing my game. Iirc it’s right click on it’s taskbar icon (right, next to the clock) and there is an option for config (it’s an ini file). Then you need to put Launcher64.exe in or something I can’t remember right now. There will be other entries there so go by them.

[Bloyamind]

Thanks again. There was some confusion, as the ATAG sticky mentions you have to add Launcher.exe, which used to work for the old CoD. It worked after I changed it to Launcher64.exe, as per a later post in that thread from someone having trouble too, so you're spot on. .

edit: found peeps in the bar and grill section who are actually flying. Great succes. Edit 2: managed to fly and chat via TS. I'm set.

Edited November 5, 2022 by Bloyamind

[Mysticpuma]

Anndddd back on topic???? 

[JG4_Continuo]

Still here once in a while, even though I didn't play for years now ?

[Feldgrun]

Just visiting.

[Eisenfaustus]

still here

[102nd-YU-cmirko]

visiting until VR is released...

[Buzzsaw]

We have over 250 VR Beta testers registered and another 100 who expressed interest but didn't meet the qualifiers.

 

Not every reads these forums or replies to posts.

[IckyATLAS]

Still there 

 

The picture below is to show that sometimes improvements are not always perfect. This picture was taken before the new cloud model. The ground fog is not possible to do anymore as thick as it was before. And the nice light and fog effects in the deep valleys of the high mountains of the Caucasus southeast of Sotchi on the Kuban map. I really am sad we lost those effects. Sure, we got better on other things. But we miss too the thick fog on the flatlands of the Rheinland and Northern France.

 

[BOO]

4 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

We have over 250 VR Beta testers registered and another 100 who expressed interest but didn't meet the qualifiers.

 

Not every reads these forums or replies to posts.

True but its not the point of the thread. The thread is about gaining an insight into this forum's tracton not overall numbers. Im sure MP has enough insight to know the second point you make. In time, and with the seeming parting of the ways between 1GCS and what was 1C Entertainment I hope to see the end of this forum and a launch of something more independent and more visibly obvious than the old ATAG site (from which a good few still interested may possibly remain banned and therefore voiceless).  

[No.54_Reddog]

16 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

We have over 250 VR Beta testers registered and another 100 who expressed interest but didn't meet the qualifiers.

 

Not every reads these forums or replies to posts.

 

If that's the case and there are over 250 players in the beta do the steam player numbers take the beta into account? Because if they do and the beta testers are active, then that would suggest that the non beta player base has fallen off the cliff entirely, or if they do and the beta testers are not active, that would beg the question why the beta testers are not active? Of course the steam figures may not register the beta at all hence my question.

[Mysticpuma]

Is there a hidden beta testers server for VR? I would have thought with so many VR testers there would be visible activity, at least 30-40 players at any one moment? 

 

 

 

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

Oh please… is that the only reason?
How about “so many beta testers have joined it, tested a while and stopped” or “…joined and never tested”.

Or “no, there is no beta server online currently”. Or even “stats don’t account for beta players”.

[Dagwoodyt]

Seems like it should not be possible to run the beta without Steam capturing the player stats.

[Mysticpuma]

1 hour ago, OBT-Lionel said:

Mysticpuma,

 

Are you implying that Buzzsaw is telling lies ?

I am implying there must be a server that has "gone dark" and off the grid with that amount of testers? 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

It's a closed beta. For obvious reasons Steam, as video game platform who signs contracts and agreements with development companies, must have planned some kind of  confidential privacy for stats regarding closed beta versions.

 

There are too many people here who are trying to dig too deep. Years go by and I still see the same type of IL2CoD players in these forum: those who let TFS do its thing and those who keep biting it. Sorry Puma, but the whole thread is biased, as many other threads in these forums, and you know it. A slight lack of activity for a few days in mid-October and you are so itchy that you imperiosly need to ask if this forum has turned the desert South of Tobruk? Come on... seriously... let's leave TFS alone, the visual update will be ready when it will be ready, the upcoming add-on will be released when it will be released... and there will be peace on earth. In the meantime, everything else is just fruitless gossip. Worse than fruitless gossip... it is fruitless hate between forum members. We don't need that.

 

Countdown before one forum member arrives at the thread and calls me "gatekeeper" or whatever other cheerful name: 10... 9... 8... 7... 6...

 

 

[BOO]

Just now, Mysticpuma said:

I am implying there must be a server that has "gone dark" and off the grid with that amount of testers? 

 

Of course there is always the possibility that testers are testing when there is something to test and when they can test it. That could be just a few minutes not always an exteneded session. That could also be in SP not online - J-Hats was a SP video. And that could be sporadically.  I think the Steam stats do reflect overall use which, as Reddog points out is a different issue but, if the "number of people currently playing  Blitz" counter on the ATAG site is to be beleived, there is a core of users not playing online or on a visiable server. Currently its showing 33 but there are only 4 in the servers in total and none in the visible TFS servers. 

 

 

[Dagwoodyt]

On 11/11/2022 at 10:18 PM, Buzzsaw said:

We have over 250 VR Beta testers registered and another 100 who expressed interest but didn't meet the qualifiers.

 

Not every reads these forums or replies to posts.

I doubt that anyone expected every beta tester to report to this thread, but beta test activity should be reflected in Steam stats.

[Mysticpuma]

3 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

It's a closed beta. For obvious reasons Steam, as video game platform who signs contracts and agreements with development companies, must have planned some kind of  confidential privacy for stats regarding closed beta versions.

 

There are too many people here who are trying to dig too deep. Years go by and I still see the same type of IL2CoD players in these forum: those who let TFS do its thing and those who keep biting it. Sorry Puma, but the whole thread is biased, as many other threads in these forums, and you know it. A slight lack of activity for a few days in mid-October and you are so itchy that you imperiosly need to ask if this forum has turned the desert South of Tobruk? Come on... seriously... let's leave TFS alone, the visual update will be ready when it will be ready, the upcoming add-on will be released when it will be released... and there will be peace on earth. In the meantime, everything else is just fruitless gossip. Worse than fruitless gossip... it is fruitless hate between forum members. We don't need that.

 

Countdown before one forum member arrives at the thread and calls me "gatekeeper" or whatever other cheerful name: 10... 9... 8... 7... 6...

 

 

I have done my best to keep this on topic and still strive to. 

This has taken a nudge in the direction of player numbers, not my choice. 

I think the thread has been inciteful as to how many unique people still visit this forum for news. The intention is still the same, it just seems that once again, a thread has difficulty staying on track when opportunities arise for some to derail any interesting post. 

 

2 hours ago, BOO said:

 

Of course there is always the possibility that testers are testing when there is something to test and when they can test it. That could be just a few minutes not always an exteneded session. That could also be in SP not online - J-Hats was a SP video. And that could be sporadically.  I think the Steam stats do reflect overall use which, as Reddog points out is a different issue but, if the "number of people currently playing  Blitz" counter on the ATAG site is to be beleived, there is a core of users not playing online or on a visiable server. Currently its showing 33 but there are only 4 in the servers in total and none in the visible TFS servers. 

 

 

Which would therefore verify and confirm that there must be servers hidden from public view, thanks. 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Ok Puma, that's fair enough to me. Thank for your proof of good faith.

 

I still think there's too much digging around these parts. Do what you want but I say it adds nothing.

 

 

[No.54_Reddog]

I don't think you meant to say inciteful, rather insightful @Mysticpuma ??? ?

 

The beta is no doubt being tested in SP as well as MP, there's unlikely to be any hidden servers IMO - why hide some, but not all? The question is based on does someone in the beta show in the steam stats. I think the answer is yes. Which means one of two things as I said. Either the beta testers aren't, or they are and no one else is playing. The ATAG forum thing has always shown total players, not just players in MP. 

 

After all, we all know that the majority play in SP for all flight sims supposedly.

[OBT-Eazy]

Counters on ATAG forum are not accurate.
 

[BladeMeister]

Who cares? Really, who cares? All the drudging up BS, all the speculation and all the negativeness, who cares LOL. At least TFS is working on CLOD/DWT, or maybe they aren't and this is all a ruse? Maybe it's all a ploy just to piss off 4 people in this forum by secretly keeping the usage stats from only you 4. I am am pretty sure that is it. There is no update coming, the server stats are hidden from you, it's maddening! Oh the humanity of this conspiracy. It's a travesty I tell you!

It's called an NDA thus yes a closed or private server. How can anyone not see that.

LOL, a few of you are F-ing losing your mind. It's very entertaining to watch.

 

S!Blade<><

[Dagwoodyt]

Is it even possible to run Blitz from the launcher64.exe without first starting Steam?

[DD_Arthur]

29 minutes ago, OBT-Eazy said:

Counters on ATAG forum are not accurate.
 

Yes they are. They’re linked to Steam. As Cliffs is a Steam only game it counts every one playing. You can check the ATAG figures against the Steam ones.

 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

And the thread keeps going, and going, and going... and the moles keep digging, and digging, and digging... and Mysticpuma asked for a "still here"... and the moles responded "still here... digging!".

 

Mega huge LoL, mega huge face palm.

 

Oh dear...

 

[Dagwoodyt]

If Steam has to be running in order to use Blitz Steam can likely track your Blitz useage when in "offline" mode.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Mysticpuma said:

 

Which would therefore verify and confirm that there must be servers hidden from public view, thanks. 

Possible but not necessarily. If you take it that testers come from all over the world and have differing personal circs then mass gatherings may not happen.

 

I don’t think I’ve seen any multiplayer videos either. It all seems to be SP. Could be a reason for that since missions are more controllable making reporting more consistent. 
 

i know things move on but the TS server paid for by TFS is also mostly empty. There may be a discord channel as this does make dev stuff easier though. 
 

I think only a few ( perhaps one) here know and it’s not the done thing to ask them  I took Buzzsaws comment as a little bit of reactive grandstanding using very careful language. Perhaps we are yet to see the great VR beta test begin. Something I think likely given the lack of unusual spikes in the numbers. Perhaps it all hidden in a bat cave. 
 

still here btw 

18 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

If Steam has to be running in order to use Blitz Steam can likely track your Blitz useage when in "offline" mode.

This is my understanding.