Bow mounted gun in Panther - magazine with belt links?

[FeuerFliegen]

Just a question I had that I wasn't sure if this is correct in the game, but the radioman's bow MG, it has 50 round magazines... but then on the right side of the gun you also see empty belt links.  I would assume only belt fired guns would utilize belt links; if it's a magazine, then there's no belt links.  Right?

[moustache]

2 hours ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

Just a question I had that I wasn't sure if this is correct in the game, but the radioman's bow MG, it has 50 round magazines... but then on the right side of the gun you also see empty belt links.  I would assume only belt fired guns would utilize belt links; if it's a magazine, then there's no belt links.  Right?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

[Lofte]

2 hours ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

radioman's bow MG

In the game, the Panther does not have a bow machine gun, only a coaxial machine gun in the turret

[FeuerFliegen]

8 minutes ago, Lofte said:

In the game, the Panther does not have a bow machine gun, only a coaxial machine gun in the turret

 

yes it does; I was literally just using it.

28 minutes ago, moustache said:

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

 

A machine gun either uses a magazine, or a belt, to supply ammo.  This gun has a magazine attached on one side, but on the other side, it has empty links from what would come from a belt.  Does this make sense?

[bzc3lk]

3 hours ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

Just a question I had that I wasn't sure if this is correct in the game, but the radioman's bow MG, it has 50 round magazines... but then on the right side of the gun you also see empty belt links.  I would assume only belt fired guns would utilize belt links; if it's a magazine, then there's no belt links.  Right?

 

https://fjm44.com/articles/mg-3442-50-round-drum-magazine-gurttrommel-34-ddf/

 

This magazine does use a link feed system, like in the game.

Edited September 28, 2022 by bzc3lk

[FeuerFliegen]

6 minutes ago, bzc3lk said:

 

https://fjm44.com/articles/mg-3442-50-round-drum-magazine-gurttrommel-34-ddf/

 

This magazine does use a link feed system, like in the game.

 

 

Thanks, I wasn't aware that they had magazines that were simply a box holding a belt of rounds in it.  Makes sense as I'm sure it was much easier to produce and less prone to jamming, as spring driven drum magazines can be complex and prone to failure; not to mention expensive.

[bzc3lk]

48 minutes ago, Lofte said:

In the game, the Panther does not have a bow machine gun, only a coaxial machine gun in the turret

 

In game the option is available after selecting the radio operator position and pressing the default right shift +3 key combination.

 

 

[Lofte]

30 minutes ago, bzc3lk said:

In game the option is available after selecting the radio operator position and pressing the default right shift +3 key combination.

thanks, I didn't know that

[moustache]

2 hours ago, bzc3lk said:

In game the option is available after selecting the radio operator position and pressing the default right shift +3 key combination.

 

2 hours ago, Lofte said:

2 hours ago, bzc3lk said:

In game the option is available after selecting the radio operator position and pressing the default right shift +3 key combination.

thanks, I didn't know that

Mmmh, small question: you say you never noticed it (there is no sarcasm in my question), except, for my part, when I change position (I place myself as a gunner or a radioman), the member of crew automatically takes control of the weapon (cannon or machine gun depending on the situation)...

did I miss something? it's not automatic for you?

[Lofte]

36 minutes ago, moustache said:

it's not automatic for you?

Nope, that's the point. MG-34 lies on floor of panther and is not active by default...

[moustache]

2 minutes ago, Lofte said:

Nope, that's the point. MG-34 lies on floor of panther and is not active by default...

Mmmmh, I don't understand why it's automatic for me (it always has been, since I owned the game, long before the release...)... would it be because I play the mouse? do you play tanks with the joystick?

[LukeFF]

It's automatic when you jump directly to the crew position.

[moustache]

29 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

It's automatic when you jump directly to the crew position.

 

1 hour ago, Lofte said:

Nope, that's the point. MG-34 lies on floor of panther and is not active by default...

well, apparently not everyone has that (maybe I misunderstood, or the translator made a mistake?)

 

and considering that there are programming/control difference between mouse and joystick control?

Edited September 28, 2022 by moustache

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, moustache said:

well, apparently not everyone has that (maybe I misunderstood, or the translator made a mistake?)

 

and considering that there are programming/control difference between mouse and joystick control?

 

What? Use any of the key commands that take you directly to a crew station, and you'll automatically be in control of that station's weapon system. It's the same way in multicrew planes. 

[moustache]

6 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

What? Use any of the key commands that take you directly to a crew station, and you'll automatically be in control of that station's weapon system. It's the same way in multicrew planes. 

yes, I know that, that's what I wrote (it's even something that annoys me a little ...), but as @Lofte does not seem to have this problem and since there are differences between mouse control and joystick control (for example, the absence of auto-recentring of the gun when you switch to gunner position), I ask if this situation (the absence of automatic weapon) to a link with a control of the vehicle with the joystick...

[fergal69]

Check out......

This should explain why you see a drum on one side of the breech & a belt on the other

Edited September 28, 2022 by fergal69

[moustache]

@Lofte, what key combination do you use for tanks? can you post a screenshot please, to see if that's why you don't have an automatic shot of the weapon (I tried to put the same key to change position to " gunner" and "grip of the weapon", but it had been ineffective...).

 

do you play joystick or mouse for tanks?

 

if there is a possibility to cancel the automatic grip of the weapon by manipulation, I am interested, really...

 

please...

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by moustache

[moustache]

@Loft?

[Lofte]

On 10/2/2022 at 8:54 PM, moustache said:

?

Sorry, I'm not interested in toy tanks right now..

[moustache]

okay, but that was not my question: you said that taking up arms was not automatic for you

 

On 9/28/2022 at 6:02 PM, Lofte said:

Nope, that's the point. MG-34 lies on floor of panther and is not active by default...

 

why? do you just have a particular key mapping?